Andy Serkis Denial

But even Andy Serkis has said that Snoke is “a new character in this universe” who has been outside of the conflict shown in the previous films.

“It is very much a newly-introduced character,” Serkis told EW. “He’s aware of what’s gone on, in the respect that he has been around and is aware of prior events. I think it’d be fair to say that he is aware of the past to a great degree.” … “Supreme Leader Snoke is quite an enigmatic character, and strangely vulnerable at the same time as being quite powerful,” Serkis says. “Obviously he has a huge agenda. He has suffered a lot of damage. As I said, there is a strange vulnerability to him, which belies his true agenda, I suppose.”

But here are the facts: JJ Abrams has denied it publicly, co-writer Lawrence Kasdan seems to not even recognize the name Darth Plagueis, actor Andy Serkis says its “a new character in this universe,” and if thats not enough evidence then I present the following to you…


The Reason Snoke Probably Isn’t Darth Plagueis

Over the weekend I came across a piece of evidence that seems to prove that, at very least, J.J. Abrams and Lawrence Kasdan did not intend for Supreme Leader Snoke to be Darth Plagueis. I pointed out this bit in my Force Awakens changes post this morning:

Supreme Leader Snoke was one of the last characters finalized for the film, alongside Maz Kanata in October 2015 (10 weeks before the release of the film). Neither J.J. Abrams nor creature creative supervisor Neal Scanlan wanted Snoke to be old and decrepit like the Emperor, and at one point they even explored the idea of the character being female. They even built a full-size maquette of the concept.

The fact that they were toying with the idea of Snoke being a female character proves that they did not intend for the character to be Darth Plagueis. Palpatine very clearly refers to Plagueis as “he.” That said, while Abrams and Kasdan did not intend for the character to be Plagueis, that doesn’t mean that Episode VIII writer/director Rian Johnson or Episode IX writer/director Colin Trevorrow couldn’t decide to go in that direction.


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Why Does Snoke Even Have to Be a Reveal?

So why would it be interesting to have Supreme Leader Snoke be Darth Plagueis? Yes, it would tie the big bad of this sequel trilogy in with the rest of the Star Wars saga. Fans also point out the similarities between the soundtrack for Snoke and the soundtrack for the scene in which Palpatine tells Anakin the story of Plagueis.

But if they were going to do this, why not just call Snoke “Darth Plagueis”? What would the point of a big reveal even be? Who would even notice? A handful of Star Wars fanatics in the theater while the rest of the audience would have no idea who Darth Plagueis even is. I guess it worked for the Thanos reveal in the Avengers end credits scene?

Let me leave you with this: Why do we even need to know Snoke’s origins? Why is this even a question we’re grappling with? The Emperor was never given a backstory in the original Star Wars trilogy and no one seemed to question it. The prequels filled in the story later on. We know that Snoke seduced Ben Solo to the dark side, and maybe that’s all we need to know.

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