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Can you give me some examples?

I think the tag on Iron Man 2 I hit upon while I was reading the drafts of Thor. And we had that beat where Coulson drove to the Hammer, “Sir, I found it.” And as I was reading the script, I do it all on the iPad now, but then it was paper. And I would go, and I circled that little thing and I said tag. Then you can do things like move that up in the shooting schedule so it became one of the first things we shot on Thor so we could cut it together and put it in Iron Man 2. The The Avengers example, of course, is the shawarma idea, which came up super, super, super late at the end of post-production.

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I’m surprised you guys went ahead with that. I remember you shot that the same day as the junket, afterward.

It’s one of my proudest moments of doing the impossible or figuring out a way. People go “You can’t do that,” like there’s literally no way to shoot another scene. The movie’s done. Well, and when it’s The Avengers, getting those cast together…you can write a book some day of the scheduling of Infinity War. Believe me.


WARNING: SPOILERS for the Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 after credits scenes follow. You can stop reading this interview now if you haven’t seen the movie.


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So for Guardians, you have five after credit scenes. How did they come about? Are they all conceived by James in the scripting?

Oh, yeah. There were a few written into the first draft. I want to say adolescent Groot was written in the draft. I think maybe Kraglin with the arrow was written into the draft. And then there were others that came about. The Stan Lee one…which this is hands-down my favorite Stan Lee cameo that we’ve ever done. The reveal that he hangs with the…did you hear what he says?

Yeah, about him being a FedEx deliveryman, so I’m wondering does that mean he is like a Skrull or something? I know you guys don’t own the Skrulls. Like that he–

Yeah, we do.

So it suggests that he’s this person that has been in every one of those movies?

Certainly something to be considered. We shot a lot in that moment when he came down to Atlanta to film that. Let’s just say he, Stan Lee, is certainly is a different type of entity within the Marvel Cinematic Universe, who can hang out with the Watchers and tell them stories about all his cameos.

And that’s also a question I had, the Watchers, aren’t they Fantastic Four owned by Fox? Has there been a deal made?

No. There’s joint custody with a number of things. There are certain characters that they have, but races that we share. If that makes sense?

That makes sense.

James is always throwing things to Stan and always getting Stan to try more things. And in one of those times, he said, he told the Watchers not to walk away and Stan just called after them as they’re walking away. And it was so funny that we put that at the very, very end of the movie. The Ayesha tag with Adam Warlock came up also towards the end of production, the beginning of post-production. To give her a little bit of an exit into the movie and more of a sort of solidifying her whole purpose in the movie. And like at the premiere they go “we’ll call him Adam.” People go “Oh, I wonder who Adam is?” When there are fans seeing the movie, they’ll know who Adam is.

Is something like that conceived as just like “Oh, it’s a fun thing and oh maybe if it gets played in another movie of Adam Warlock?” Or like are you consciously thinking of oh, we need Adam Warlock down the line, Infinity War, whatever, let’s…

Adam is not in Infinity War. That is not a tag for Infinity War.


But it varies. It varies. In that case in particular, James has ideas. And had played with incarnations of Adam Warlock in earlier drafts of other Guardians films. So he’s always been top of mind for the Guardians franchise. And if he appears anywhere in the future, it’ll be with Guardians.


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