glow review

GLOW became a Netflix sensation last summer as both fans of the ‘80s era women’s wrestling league and fans of Netflix drama converged on the show. The Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling are back for a second season, continuing the fictionalized account of the league with Alison Brie, Betty Gilpin, Marc Maron and all the series regulars returning.

In season two, Ruth (Brie) and Debbie (Gilpin) still have not reconciled, but have to work together to make G.L.O.W. a success. Ruth continues helping Sam (Maron) with business ideas, including shooting opening titles. All the wrestlers have to come up with new ways to stand out in the ring and on camera, and for Ruth, that includes breakdancing. We also get to spend more time with some of the other wrestlers like Tamme (Kia Stevens).

GLOW creators Liz Flahive and Carly Mensch spoke with /Film by phone before the premiere of season 2 on Netflix. They also contributed to the screenplay for Captain Marvel. GLOW season 2 is streaming now.

Your G.L.O.W. is a fictionalization, but were there real things you were able to include about G.L.O.W. in the second season?

Mensch: The second season we had a lot more liberty to create our G.L.O.W. and to continue exploring the characters we created. So I think we got even further away, aside from the fact that we were very inspired from the beginning of our show by the fact that the original G.L.O.W. was so many different types of show shoved into one in a glorious vaudevillian way. I think we tried to honor that in making our wrestling show kind of a crazy hybrid. Aside from that, season two continues to be even more of a departure than season one.

Flahive: Especially as we get deeper into the fictional characters we created, I feel like that naturally continues to move away from real life that we continue to get inspired by.

Was the idea idea that some wrestlers switched characters something you invented?

Mensch: That’s true of wrestling. I think we’ve been paying attention to wrestling, G.L.O.W. included. The character is not owned by the person playing it. Anyone can step out or someone else can step into those shoes. That’s a very key point in wrestling and something that we definitely put in our show.

Flahive: And that wrestlers turn heel. Chavo Guerero Jr., our wrestling coach, has played many different characters in his small career and I feel like it’s something that was really exciting to us in terms of telling that story as the show is on the air now. It felt like that had a lot of potential impact in terms of girls deciding that their characters weren’t doing what they wanted them to do or they didn’t like their character for a particular reason. I think that was an interesting narrative for us.

I thought I remembered G.L.O.W. being on late at night at 2AM. Did that happen too?

Flahive: Yeah, it was on in different marketplaces at different times. There was no one set time for the original G.L.O.W.

Mensch: We had I think assumed, correctly or incorrectly, that it was on Saturday mornings in a lot of places. But that it was on at different times. For our G.L.O.W., we thought that the worst thing that could happen was to be moved to a timeslot where no one watched, so that’s why we made up our own G.L.O.W. narrative.

Flahive: From Saturday morning to 2AM.

I’m sure you would’ve addressed the sexual politics of the ‘80s anyway, but did the #MeToo movement empower you in the way you dealt with it in season two?

Flahive: I think it definitely emboldened us to go further with our storytelling. I think that our story of a bunch of girls making a girl where there are a bunch of men in charge, both creatively and then at a network level, it felt like a really natural story to tell and we knew we wanted to tell it. It felt of the time, but I think what was happening in our present moment definitely helped fuel us in our storytelling.

Mensch: In fact, I think the #MeToo stuff was not very surprising to anyone sitting in the writers room because our shared stories as women were very much reflective of some of the same behaviors. So it was also one of those movements that was no surprise to us but still exciting that it was happening.

Will some people miss the “prep” vs. “prepare” joke?

Mensch: For sure, yes. We agree. We put it in there because it tickled us so much but we agree with you that people might miss it.

I love that you don’t explain it.

Mensch: Nope, we loved it so much.

Flahive: Thank you for noticing. That’s our first hint that it may be noticeable.

It took me a second but I got it.

Mensch: That’s one of our sleeper jokes.

Flahive: We’ll wait for it.

Since breakdancing is so ‘80s, did you really want to work it in this season?

Flahive:  I watched a lot of White Nights and Girls Just Wanna Have Fun. Breakin’ was a big one. A sequence where somebody learns a dance and then that dance happens felt really important to be included in season two creatively in terms of an homage to things that make me happy about these scenes.

Is dance choreography significantly different than wrestling choreography?

Mensch: Yeah, we have to get a very different choreographer.

Flahive: A whole different person.

Mensch: We have a wrestling choreographer and this time we had to bring in a dance choreographer.

Flahive: There’s a little less room for injury in the dance choreography maybe.

Mensch: And I think that you’re less holding your partner and their life being in your hands throughout the dance, than it is in wrestling.

Were you able to spend a lot more time with Tamme’ this season? 

Flahive: I think season one we went purposely very, very slow in our storytelling and wanted you to get the sense of the team and really the focus was at its core Ruth and Debbie. And I think now that we told the story of the girls learning how to wrestle and you have a handle on who everybody is, the idea that we can actually follow Debbie and Tamme for an episode felt incredibly exciting to us.

Mensch: And season one, we knew they were the two ones but they didn’t really interact in season one. So it felt like a huge opportunity to both have to work on a wrestling match together and just parallel their lives in different portraits of motherhood as there are many portraits of motherhood both in our writers room and in the world. So it’s exciting to pick two different one.

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