Superman

You might remember that comic book writer Mark Millar had been talking about his pitch for an 8-hour Lord of the Rings-style epic trilogy of Superman films. He even claimed that he was working with an unnamed big director on a pitch for the studio. But a couple months ago, Millar gave up on the pursuit, at least for the moment. Mark is always one to tell big stories and make big claims, sometimes larger than reality. And I’ve always wondered if there really was a big name director working with him on the Superman pitch, and who it could have been. And now we know…

Millar finally reveals the name to the TimesOnline, and its a lot more obvious then you would think — Matthew Vaughn, director of Layer Cake, Stardust and the big screen adaptation of Millar’s Kick-Ass comic book. The comic book writer tells the Times, “They spoke to me and Matthew last year and we were obviously very interested as the love is there and the potential is enormous. But we’re not involved in Superman at this stage.” The plan was “to do a Superman movie unlike anything you’ve ever seen before. Matthew wanted to cast someone who looked nothing like Christopher Reeve and create a new Superman for this generation. But Superman is still in stasis at the moment because the last one lost so much money and [Warners] are scared to do anything with the character right now. I’m not holding my breath.”

Millar had originally revealed his idea to Empire Magazine, stating that his pitch is for an 8-hour saga told over the course of three films, each which he hopes would be released one year apart.

It’s gonna be like Michael Corleone in the Godfather films, the entire story from beginning to end, you see where he starts, how he becomes who he becomes, and where that takes him. The Dark Knight showed you can take a comic book property and make a serious film, and I think the studios are ready to listen to bigger ideas now.

But Millar’s ideas were great in concept but unrealistic from a studio standpoint.

I want to start on Krypton, a thousand years ago, and end with Superman alone on Planet Earth, the last being left on the planet, as the yellow sun turns red and starts to supernova, and he loses his powers.

Warner Bros cares about the character as a franchise, and a franchise can’t exist if it has a finite conclusion. In May Millar revealed that talk of the movie had slowed down, and that he had moved on to another project.

Warner’s talked to us and a few other writer/ director teams, but things seem to be in stasis right now. As far as I understand, nothing is happening with Superman at the moment and so the director and I are just working on another project. If it happens, great. If it doesn’t, no biggie. Kick-Ass taught me that creating your own stuff can be at least as much fun and you don’t have to answer to anyone. It’s the future, baby.

That new project will re-team Millar with Vaughn on another live-action big screen adaptation — Millar’s American Jesus comic book. You can read a lot more about that project in our previous news report. Thanks to /Film reader KaMeek for the tip.

  • kiwis
    casting someone who doesn't look anything like Reeves is strange. cause if you cast someone to look like superman, you're casting someone who automatically looks like reeves. if you cast well anyway.
  • TheJonnJonzz
    Well contrary to popular belief, Superman is not always (actually, rarely) drawn to look like Chris Reeve. All you need is a caucasian, well built, good looking, dark haired guy with the right kind of face. For a new series of Superman films to succeed on their own merit they need to stop living is Reeve's shadow and cast someone as the new face of Superman.
  • kiwis
    well most artist have their own style with all of them looking the same anyway. i mean, for my money(and some others), the best superman artist right now is Gary Frank. and he certainly draws a Reeves-ish Superman. I don't think it's hard to recast, Routh looked like superman to me, and not really like reeves, though people said that. btw, sorry bout dying and all. go easy on hal and barry.
  • TheJonnJonzz
    Well what I mean is that Chris Reeve, Brandon Routh, and Dean Cain all had a Superman look to them. But Dean Cain had a different "look" to him than the admittedly similar Reeve/Routh. What the need to do is find a great actor for the role, who doesn't look like Reeve so you're not always comparing them (Like they've managed to do with Batman more often).
    As for Hal and Barry?
    THEY SHOULD BE DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!
  • Guest
    your wrong superman wasnt design to look like Reeves. Reeves did make the character popular but the character was not based to look like Reeves at all.
  • Hi_there
    Anyone who thinks we must have Routh as Superman because he looks like Reeves needs to just gtfo. I can't believe people think Routh with his "cute" muscular look actually made or will ever make for a good Superman. Just look at the pic at the top of the article....
  • I think what he means is that when one or two modern artists are drawing Superman in the comics they base his face on photographs of Christopher Reeves.
  • papaalkhiughk
    Matthew Vaughn is a BIG director? For a project like this I hardly think he is qualified to be called a BIG director. Anyways, news to me..
  • Let's keep Mark Millar as far away from Superman as possible, shall we?
  • Danisgod6491
    Agree, the Guy is the Michael Bay of Comic Writers.
  • If there is one comic book character who needs some fresh air it's superman. Whoever get's the project: Start something new, something totally different and surprising. A modern take on the man from Krypton.
  • I would like to read a comic of this idea if the movie doesn't pull through. Millar wrote the great Superman story "Red Son".
  • Rockie
    100% with you on that

    film fails, make the book Millar.

    nuff said.....wait
  • dr_acula
    Man... I understand the dismissal because of franchise potential but how fucking epic would that last scene be in Millar's Superman arc with Superman starring down the Sun as it goes supernova and having him blown away--nuclear blast like??

    But really I don't see the problem... Do those three films, wait 5-10 years and either do Justice League or a re-boot?
  • bob
    It wouldnt be epic because it makes no fucking sense, Superman isn't immortal. Ya he ages slower than a normal human but geez he wouldn't outlive the friggin sun. That would make Superman like 2 billion years old by the time it went supernova.
  • Colonel_Kurtz
    And don't forget that he can...
    1. Fly
    2. Survive in space
    3. GTFO of a dying solar system sometime in the next 5 billion years

    I'd be willing to give them all the chances they need to take to get Superman back on track, but even Superman can't win against the legal system. Anyone with any big plans for Superman should just file them away for the next few years until the lawyers have had their fill of blood.

    p.s. Our sun can't go supernova...not enough mass.
  • dr_acula
    Well fuck me then.
  • daveshere
    nah, Newbie. Not even elliot wanted to. Your play sucked btw. Dr.Acula my ass. - XO Dr. Cox
  • Michael_C
    This is pretty much the only way I can see myself being interested in a new Superman film. Pity, really.
  • Matt
    The more I think about it, the more unsurprised I am they aren't cashing in on doing another one right now. Why? Because this generation wants whiny "dark" characters who talk like they need a coughdrop and are as far from heroic as it comes. Although at least if Vaughn was involved I know he knows how to do fun and truly heroic (Stardust). He'd certainly be better than Tim Burton or Tarantino or any of the other COMPLETELY wrong directors that all of the idiotic Batman fanboys keep suggesting. Maybe in 10 years the world will have moved on from wanting everything to be depressing and dark, and people will understand why Superman is the greatest hero of all time once again. Until then, as much as I'd love to see another Superman (especially another Singer/Routh Superman), I'd rather it not happen.

    (Whine away fanboys, whine away.)
  • emo_depressed_batman_fanboy
    The batman voice was ridiculous. But come on man, is Superman really the greatest superhero ever? He is not relatable to anyone. He is way too perfect for anyone to say "Yes, I get him". He has no human quality, therefore it's hard to sympathize with him, making most people not caring about what happens to him. We need something real (as real as a superhero can get I suppose) and relatable. It's not about being dark or depressing, it's about being real and honest and creating emotion. Did you see Superman Returns? That is the most depressing superhero movie I have ever seen, and, as a film, probably the worst superhero movie ever created. Actually I take that back, Spiderman 3 and the Fantastic Four were much worse, but that movie is up there.

    But, that movie trilogy idea sounds so epic. I want to see that done.
  • Guest
    the reason you saying that is because Superman have not face a true villain expect lex. superman has human quality he been raised by two lovely parents who adopted him, he got a 9-5 job etc. i agree Superman Returns is bad the reason for that is that Bryan Singer was not been creative he just copy something that we already seen long time ago.

    you need to watch Superman Doomdays movie that was a good animated movie to bad it was not a live action movie.
  • Hi_there
    He's only ever faced Real-estate Lex Luthor (the bald Gene Hackman) in the movies. We need him to face President/CEO Lex Luthor... that guys much more interesting.
  • Guest
    actually we need him to face doomsday, darkseid, etc
  • Tom
    What is it about superheroes that brings out the condescending, childish asshole in some net nerds? I mean, really--fans are fans. Who cares about what particular type of tights wearing fictitious characters they like more? Plus, I thought arguing about shit like "my superhero's better than yours. yours is an emo queer!" was grown out of when people turned, like, 12.

    Once again, internet commenters, you've stunned me.
  • Slaphappy Slim
    Right on, man. Well said. The thing is, the internet gives every asshole a public voice and stage upon which to be a dickhead. Wasn't always that way.
  • emo_depressed_batman_fanboy
    Assholes are people who call other people assholes because they are talking about the topic at hand.

    Therefore you can suck my dick. If you would like.

    I honestly don't know why I said anything at all, I don't care enough about superheroes anyways. I have never read comic book. So I didn't need to say anything.

    The offer still stands by the way.
  • Slaphappy Slim
    Second post more obnoxious than the first. Point proven. Suck your own dick, sweetheart.
  • Everytime I read smthing on Superman I always think the same: "They should´ve gone with JJ Abrams script"... and maybe direct. Look what he did with two franchises almost dead: Mission Impossible and Star Trek.

    I don´t care abount fucking Luthor being kryptonian, the resurrection magic crystal or the whole thing being a Superman+Superman II rehash, it was just a killer project with MONEY all around it. Warner Bros. had what they deserved.

    I laugh when Singer says "the (JJ Abrams) script was like Superman I and Superman II, something we already have seen"... Well, sir, what was your movie???
  • Yeah but did you read JJ Abrams script?

    No Krypton explosion, Lex Luthor is a CIA agent who is actually Kryptonian as well... Swords that come out of the S emblem.
    Baddd...
  • kiwis
    yeah there's a difference between "fresh" and totally pooing on the mythology. that'd also just be slapping Superman's name on it.
  • chris
    i think a full 8 hour trilogy movie would be amazing. starting from start and ending a story. just how he states. alone with a dead sun.
  • thrillhouse
    I don't get why WB doesn't want Superman to have a "finite ending" - if they do it "their way" - they'll end up retconning and rebooting the whole thing when the 3rd one is shitty anyway!!!
  • Drbendy
    Oh i just said the same thing, sorry for repeating.
  • thrillhouse
    Hey, great minds think alike!
  • Bit of a disappointment. Millar talked up an absolute storm. That last scene would have been incredible.
  • ziggi
    right.
    so we're going to buy into a superman trilogy where the first movie he isnt even born until the end of the movie.
    then we wait 3 years for part 2.
    or not.
    i bet miller actually talks in word balloons.
  • Chris
    The earth sun is too small to go supernova, noobs
  • rick
    Here, Superman's thinking, "Should I masturbate... Yeah, I'll masturbate"
  • I like the idea, Superman Returns was too lame. Why can't they make multiple franchises/storylines for the same character ... it works for comic books.
  • MovieViral
    Now that they are loosing the rights maybe they'll finally do something. I like Millar's idea.
  • darrenvandergriff
    i LOVE Millars concept. too bad studios are so reluctant.
  • I think that Dan from TRS was right about the comic "Superman:Secret Identity" being the perfect Superman story for a new movie

    http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Secret-Identity-...

    You don't have to buy it, search for it anywhere. It's a great superhero story. It's dark, but it keeps what make Superman's personality great.
  • I personally loved how the move begins....
  • WB needs to get off their asses. They're making this far to difficult. Give Superman a serious threat, make it thrilling, exciting, dramatic, and fun to watch.

    People who say Superman's too 'perfect' don't know the character enough. He STRIVES to be perfect. Which is a big flaw. I could write an expose here, but I won't.
  • DAR
    We really do deserve a kick ass Superman film. Not that I don't love the two Donner films.
  • I remember my first beer.

    Mark Millar's first set of comments regarding this phantom Superman film he was developing mentioned a "very well known American action director." Now it has been revealed that said director was Matthew Vaughn. How doesn't he know that Vaughn is about as American as Chinese New Year?
  • salem1974
    Since when Matthew Vaughan is a "big director"?
  • sma
    I always imagined a sort of serial-ish 50's scifi take on Superman, ala "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow". A movie that isn't an origin story (which has been done to death, honestly who wants to see that again) and that uses some villains besides Lex Luther.

    Unfortunately, at the end of the day Superman just isn't an interesting character. He's practically impervious to everything (except for the obvious), has no real character flaws, and excels at everything he does. His rogue gallery is also pretty lame.
  • Danisgod6491
    Brainiac, Bizzaro, Darkseid, Livewire, Parasite, Toyman, Zod, Metallo, Doomsday. Yea, all lame villains.
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