No One Wants To Own Up To Racism In Transformers

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Given how many people worked on the creative angle of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, I’m amazed and not a little bit shocked that the movie hit screens with two of the most offensive, stereotypically black characters I’ve seen in a studio film since Mickey Rooney donned buck teeth to play a Japanese character in Breakfast at Tiffany’s. (Granted I’m also a bit amazed that I didn’t even talk about these characters in my review, which is a major oversight; I’d already talked about them so much offline and in various emails that I completely passed over the subject.)

The characters in question are Skids and Mudflap, who after an initial appearance as a ratty old ice cream truck are upgraded to be green and orange Chevys. More to the point, both characters speak with voices that sound like urban black stereotypes, have big ears and buck teeth and proclaim that they ‘don’t do much readin’‘. Skids even has a gold tooth. How did these characters make it through months of development, meetings and rendering to appear on screens this week?

At the press day for the film, screenwriters Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci initially passed the responsibility for the characters to Michael Bay, who passed it on to the voice actors, Tom Kenney (Spongebob Squarepants) and Reno Wilson, who is black. A couple of days ago Devin from CHUD quoted Kurtzman on the subject:

I think a lot of what we did was following Michael’s lead. Those characters, more than any other, he had the strongest instinct for. Our job was to keep up with him.

Bay explained that he designed the characters to appeal to kids; they’re certainly more overtly cartoonish and broad than anything else in the already broad movie. But his follow-up put all the blame on his voice actors:

When you work with voice actors, especially with the twins, they did a lot of improv for their parts. We liked their improv and, from there, we would animate to their stuff. When you’re doing character animation and you’re building the character, it’s not like an actor where you shoot the scene and you’ve got it and you move on.

Now Film School Rejects has Kurtzman and Orci talking more candidly about the two robots and their feelings about how they ended up in the final cut. The gold tooth was Bay’s idea, they confirm, and they’re embarrassed by the stereotypical caricature:

Orci: Number one, we sympathize. Yes, the gold tooth was not in the script, that’s true.

Kurtzman: It’s really hard for us to sit here and try to justify it. I think that would be very foolish, and if someone wants to be offended by it, it’s their right. We were very surprised when we saw it, too, and it’s a choice that was made. If anything, it just shows you that we don’t control every aspect of the movie.

What no one has yet addressed, however, is the buck-toothed black human character that appears in an equally stereotypical Jewish deli halfway through the film. He doesn’t seem to serve any purpose aside from completing a suite of racial and cultural stereotypes that in addition to the wildly racist Jewish deli includes French mimes, a Parisian restaurant that serves snails and a noodle-eating old Chinese man. The buck-toothed human character appears in only a couple of shots, and really seems to have only one purpose: to provide a reference point for Skids and Mudflap as racist caricatures.

The characters have quickly caused a stir outside the blog world. THR has their take, and AP has run a piece in outlets like USA Today. That one mounts a thin defense for the characters by quoting voice actor Wilson, who performed as Mudflap. Wilson defends the characters as wannabe gangsters who learned about human culture by downloading data from the internet.

It’s an alien who uploaded information from the Internet and put together the conglomeration and formed this cadence, way of speaking and body language that was accumulated over X amount of years of information and that’s what came out. If he had uploaded country music, he would have come out like that… It could easily be a Transformer that uploaded Kevin Federline data. They were just like posers to me.

And, from Wilson’s perspective, it’s easy to see that the characters could have played like that in the recording booth. But when presented in final context, they’re far more aggressively stereotypical and difficult to fathom than Jazz from the first film, who was also a robot styled as a black character. He liked to breakdance and was the one Autobot killed in that movie. Here, Skids and Mudflap mostly disappear once the action gets thick, only heightening the impression that they’re just minstrel characters meant to get a cheap, uneasy laugh.

  • All i know that these characters were funny
  • ...No they weren't.
  • Adrian
    i laughed and so did everybody else in the theater that i saw it, which inculde almost every race people
  • fds
    stock down
  • Lots of people also thought Bush would make a good president. People can be pretty stupid.
  • Walt
    Yeah and lots of people think Obama's making a terrific president, the same people I'm sure that laughed in the Los Angeles (you know, the progressive city?) theater I attended.
  • Walt is an idiot
    you just called LA a progressive city. HAHA
  • Yeah, what a silly goose. Everyone knows San Francisco is the progressive city!
  • Lpfanaddy
    well said, Walt.
  • Marvin
    Take your political comments to a political arena, not a movie review session. Conservatives...gotta make everything about themselves and their progressive ideas--wait, they're conservatives, they're not progressive.
  • Marvin
    or contributing to help the American people.
  • roflMarvin
    rofl. If by "American people", you mean themselves...
  • Kirstin
    I resent that. I do support Obama, and I found these characters utterly offensive. Asshat.
  • Glad to not be Walt
    Wow Walt, good job. I didn't see anything in this persons comment relating to Obama, Los Angeles, or Conservatives. No one wants to read about your politics on a film site.
  • Cavalier
    Dude, if you seriously believe there was nothing wrong with those two characters then you are just as out of touch as the people who wrote/voiced/created those characters. Funny or not, Those two characters were racist. Period.
  • Ross
    Your a typical racist black person tht makes the other black people look bad to the racist white people
  • kate
    Wow, first of all, it's "YOU ARE, or You're".

    Second of all, how does his comment make him a "typical racist Black person?" Objecting to something [that is objectionable] does not reflect poorly on the objector, nor does it speak for AN ENTIRE RACE OF PEOPLE!
  • JPmuftak
    The only things wrong with those characters is that they acurately depicting our countries music stars. Lil Wayne, Snoop Dogg, T-Pane, Ludacris, Lil' John, and Flava Flave. They have the same gold teeth, and the same voices. It's sad if it's racist to point out and make-fun-of truth.
  • Afreakin
    I'm with JP on this!
    I didn't know having a "black" voice (that statement is more racist than anything) & gold tooth was racist.
    If you are offended by a funny black character, are Eddie Murphy & Chris Rock also racist for making fun of black stereotypes? And what about all the "white" characters in the movie? Are they racist too?
    This is pretty pathetic as far as I'm concerned, you should come to South Africa & see real racism & history thereof to put this into perspective.

    Having a stereotypical black character in a movie for a little humor is funny, just like having white trailer trash is... as a white person I don't take offense to white stereotypes, because they are just that... stereotypes, if you do you have a problem with your own colour of skin. People hating people because of their race for no reason is racism.
  • scotty
    dude im totally with you, The character Ironhide spoke in a white upper classed english accent yet said things like "punk ass decipticon" this clearly shows that to speak in a "black" fashion is something everyone wants to do
  • sambafish
    Yeah lowest common denominator humor is awesome! Have you heard Larry the Cable Guy's new album?
  • haha, "every race people." Sounds like a real culturally sensitive audience.
  • Phil
    I laughed. And, by the way, it's FUCKING RETARDED to say that a car/robot/transformer is "black." Holy shit, anybody that is 'offended' by these characters is a shithead. Guess what everybody, REAL PEOPLE ACT LIKE THEM! - and most of them, that I know personally, aren't black.

    Grow up.
  • 3OH3
    People that act like that need to be shot
  • thediz247
    spoken like a true hate criminal................ shooting people
  • That means you and all those people are fucktards
  • TD_Graber00
    ALMOST every race of people, lol.
  • Then its obvious that you dont like humor at all...
  • Well, can't argue with that logic.
  • Good then
  • sambafish
    He's saying you're retarded
  • Marvin
    lol. That's blunt.
  • Kirstin
    Hahaha. <3 I love it when people have to explain shit like that.
  • Federico
    ...I wonder why everyone laughed, then.
  • ace
    Because you're all a bunch of racists?
  • thankyoufor
    American's are stupid, I was embarrassed to be in the same room with these people, my GF made me watch this movie and I've gotta say it was god awful, while I was watching those characters I was pissed, I thought we were over racism, but no instead everyone in theatre was laughing, I was disgusted, they're all ignorant.
  • shelovesmeshelovesmenot
    get over yourself
  • Humor has been made from stereotypes FOREVER... Get over it, no one race was relieved from being made fun of... The White Government Official was also made fun of and got laughs. ITS COMEDY, doesn't mean its racist, you just point out the funnier parts of everyones identity. Its the articles like this that always have to bring it back to racism that continue the cycle.
  • listen people, they werent funny but i think we really need to get over it. Is it not possible to think that there are different races of transformers out there. Do we need to have a discusion about how IronHide is played british. These conversations are ridiculous. Again, I didnt think they were funny and could have done without them to an extent. But there are people in this world, black people, who act like this. There are also white people, who talk and behave like this. What is the big deal. Is there not a black hero character in this film? Or are we going to have a problem that his captain is a white man. Listen, the idea that a transformer doesnt read is not a problem for me. HES A FUCKING ROBOT, the fact that they are played to be stupid is pretty terrible, and for the same reason. HES A FUCKING ROBOT. how can they be stupid? I think we really are reading to much into it. The voice actor said it exactly right. If he was played overtly as a country bumkin cowboy redneck, no one would give a shit about it. If you gave british ironhide bad teeth, no one would care. Is it possible that beyond the vastness of space, in the world of transformers, there are different races? lets move on and enjoy the movie for what it was. A summer blockbuster w/ robot CG porn! not every movie has to have social commentary that parrallel to things going on in the world. cant it just be about silly robots destroying eachother/
  • djc
    when stereotypes of white people and british people are used to enforce a system that has historically dehumanized and discriminated against both white people and british people, then those stereotypes would be just as offensive as other forms of stereotypes. Also, don't try to excuse these stereotypes by saying "they're just robots". The main robots (Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, etc.) aren't presented with any racial connotations. It's just the twins and yes, ironhide, that act according to damaging stereotypes as comic relief. The problem of presenting these stereotypes as comic relief is that it also implies that the identities that are stereotyped are an other - an abnormal deviation from the normal standard.
  • Blackboy007
    So if bumblebee can't talk then we are making fun of mute people? he spits coolant on that robo girl inside the car does that make him jealous therefore GAY? That's what you are doing, looking too much into things. The old blackbird decepticon was old and confused should we worry now that our elderly are being attacked?!?!! It's a popcorn movie nobody will say it's a racist movie even black people at the theater got went with it. It's entertainment. I'm black and I don't get offended by this, there are brothers that act like that and talk like that and that kind of talk is funny, if we had optimus trying to be the comic relief he couldn't pull it off. Sam's mom was stupid and she's white so are we attacking all races in this movie. Or is it all in your head? Yep I think so...
  • mont.ee
    HERE HERE! yours is the best comment on here!
  • benlomand
    10/10 Guess we should stop playing rap videos as well, as they stereo type every black person as a thug that does nothing but drinks and lays with multiple women.

    Please /film find something else to fuss about.
  • j
    amen
  • Matt
    You're a complete idiot and I feel stupid just for reading your post.
  • benlomand
    Well being in the 3rd grade, going by your name calling, I do not doubt you feel dumb trying to read some of these post. You'll understand when you are older.
  • Cavalier
    @ Blackboy007--I'm Black & I must say that you sound very young and again like a lot of people on here--very out of touch. IronHide, Jetfire, even the old Jewish-dude w/buckteeth--Yes they represent stereotypes like much/all of the Transformers to some extent. The problem is Skids & Mudflap--MUDFLAP!!!! WTF! The problem is since these Stereotypical characters were given more screen time, there flaws were exposed much more through comic relief--making them more of a target for criticism. Add on to the fact that they were were created/written & voiced as two wanna be gangsta, Thugs/rappers by two writers who are old & out of touch they basically ended up sounding like offensive, stereotypical, characters. Do I blame the voice actors/Robots--NO! They're just following instructions. I blame the writers. But even more so is Micheal Bay for not putting that shit in check in the first place--Bad on you Micheal Bay! He's just another example of another rich due who is again out of touch with the younger generation--hip-hop and likewise. If you can't find a better way to relate/communicate to your viewerss than to create stereotypical characters then what has that have to say about you as a person--BAD Micheal Bay!
  • You must not have read the whole article. It clearly said that the voice actors came up with most of it, and they animated around what the voice actors came up with.
  • some one with actual logic thank you and i agree, 'cept i thought they were halirious.
  • Itsamoviepeople
    Awesome Blackboy007. People need to chillax and let it go!
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