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The MarketSaw 3D cinema blog’s obsession with all things Avatar continues unabated and this time, appears to have yielded some very interesting tidbits about a key action set piece. According to the correlating reports they have received, one of the film’s big standout sequences is a 12 minute, first person perspective chase. I suppose you might think immediately of the opening sequence to Strange Days or, less favorably, the gimmick scene in Doom.

Cameron scripted Strange Days and I think he’d be very interested in directing a sequence of this nature himself - particularly with the new toys he’s helped invent to make it run nice and smooth. Reportedly, there were some key issues encountered during development, including problems with a simulated blinking effect and the blurring of the image. The solution sounds to be a compromised incorporation of those bumps into a smoother, more typical cinema aesthetic, and is described as “interesting”.

I’ve got big issues with the basic concept of a first person sequence unless used in the narrow and specific context of a properly established and acceptable subjectivity. The SQUID device in Strange Days provided that context and the very premise of Avatar supplies one too. This illuminates part of the problem with the Doom sequence, of course. There, the first person device can still be intellectualized away on some fronts - it refers to the game, after all - but it doesn’t feel right to an audience. And that’s what really good movie making is actually about: understanding how the cogs and gymbles create feelings, and rigging the engine so that the feelings acquired make direct and emotional sense, on first viewing and beyond.

I’m very keen to see this sequence in action. I’d even go so far as to suggest Cameron’s two first-person set pieces, in Strange Days and Avatar, cut right to the heart of what he found interesting about these stories in the first place. Both are stories about experience filtered through a mediating technology - ie. they’re about film, at least to a large degree, and perhaps larger now Cameron has made strides with 3D imagery.

I don’t pity Cameron the job of balancing the transparent, blink-free and blur-less aesthetic of normal tracking shots with the necessary details required in an “in the skull” sequence like this without ripping the audience’s investment in the diegesis to shreds. Can’t wait to see if he’s nailed it bang on, but I’m already pretty confident he has. This plays with tools he’s a true master of.

Time to put on some Creedence and daydream of that fateful day Avatar will finally be revealed in it’s full, three dimensional glory…

  • You don't need a reason to put on Credence.
  • a-fucking-men to that.
  • Every peice of news about this film makes me think it will be the greatest thing ever or the worst peice of cinema ever made.

    3D cinema has a lot riding on this.
  • I hope for the former, but prepare for the latter.
  • Well done on the faux-sensationalist headline Brendon. Well done.
  • hear hear
  • Edward
    I wouldnt hold out much hope for the Creedence.
  • helll yeah! bring it on!
  • haven't you seen the 1998 French film ROSETTA? It's all done in the first person narrative, the camera is right from her eyes... very interesting and well done
  • i didn't understand most of what you said and that makes me think that you guys over here at slashfilm don't play games. I like that.
  • the dude
    no its just that brendon connelly doesnt write very well. its hard for him to stay on topic and he doesnt know how to explain things that the average person doesnt know. but yes slashfilm doesnt play games... brendon connelly thats another story.
  • Brice GIlbert
    For the longest time when I kept hearing about Avatar being revolutionary with it's 3D one thing I kept thinking about was a first person sequence. Like a space battle in first person where you feel like you are in the cockpit. I hope he doesn't drop it.
  • REAL6
    fROM mARKETSAW 3D: There is a twelve min segment entirely in the first person viewpoint. this as im sure you all could understand is a tricky thing, you`ve seen examples in doom. which look cool....but never felt real. for instance blinking blurring of vision. photoreal is now easy. animateing it to define real is very hard. this most definatly is the money shot of the biggest movie ever conceived.



    I was told about a 12 min segment of avatar where its in the first person viewpoint.and they were having probs making the scene feel real because people blink and have blurred vision. and from what im told they have found a very interesting compromise.

    Here is what my source, who spoke to someone who had seen parts of the sequence, had to say to me a couple days ago:

    1) He said that 'when you are running through the jungle of Pandora and their tails are moving in front of your face, your brain will melt.'

    2) I asked whether it a return to Tech-Noir form from JC and he said 'its like Aliens, but from the POV of the Aliens' :)

    3) Big Rock Candy Mountain is supposed to be 'amazing.'

    4) Slightly off topic, the BAA preprod at Lightstorm was 'very much in line with Kishiro's artwork.' Imagine that in 3D? /brain melts
  • I hope the source who spoke to the source who had seen parts of the sequence is right.

    I also hope that Cameron's back in his genre form. I'm actually getting over the Oscar speech and ready for this. I so hope this is going to be good and not only for myself as a moviegoer but for the industry in general. 3D man, 3D.
  • blake
    I'm sure JC will note that fact that you've "...got big issues with the basic concept of a first person sequence unless used in the narrow and specific context of a properly established and acceptable subjectivity."

    Brendon, do you even read what you are writing anymore? You sound like a pseudo intellectual wet fart. Stop it.
  • Brendon smokes crack.
  • lol, try reading his stuff high. It's insane.

    I NEED AVATAR SOON
  • Where is that damn Avatar teaser??

    Also, it doesn't seem like the title of this post has much to do with the actual conclusion of the post. I don't see the point.

    "Is The Film's Most Showstopping Set-Piece Doomed?"

    "Can’t wait to see if he’s nailed it bang on, but I’m already pretty confident he has. This plays with tools he’s a true master of."

    I guess by the end of the article, you learn its not doomed.
  • Notice the three movies he speaks about throughout the article. Do you now see any connection?
  • Duge_Diddler
    Keep in mind the site feeding you this (marketsaw), is the same site that fed us the BS that there would be an Avatar trailer in December, that the Jonay art was authentic, that it was Giant studios that actually did the effects on Lord of the Rings instead of Weta, - of course we all know now they were wrong on all accounts.

    Really slash, why do you continue spreading their false crap? All you achieve is stinking up your own site with other's BS.
  • Oh my god, I just saw Synecdoche, New York and now there is a near double of me in the commentary section. My mind is melting, I might as well divide by zero - OH SHI
  • While it all does sound very ingenious and exciting, I'm reserve judgement until I see a teaser, a poster, or a production still that doesn't involve Cameron pointing off camera wearing a bad t-shirt.
  • don't hold your breath! more Cameron to come.
  • Intangible Cloudhole
    Interesting news, but I'm a little baffled that you're trying to apply such high standards of filmmaking to DOOM, of all things. The first-person in DOOM was nothing more than a love-letter to the game, and a gimicky but fun sequence in a dumb (but fairly entertaining) flick. It fully fit the movie in that respect, since the purpose of the whole endeavor was to provide an audience with a couple hours of gratuitous violence.

    In principal, though, I'm totally with you. JC probably agrees, and I have no doubt he's busting a lotta balls over getting this spot-on. Hope the whole thing pays off.
  • Justin
    Brendon, you lost me before I finished reading the third paragraph.

    lol.

    Anyway, I hope Fox doesn't force Cameron to make any cuts just because they're probably tight for cash atm, what with every major release of theirs in the past 2 years flopping.
  • REAL6
    Nah never that. When it comes to Cameron and Fox, CAMERON IS GOD!!!

    He's like Chuck Norris when it comes to Fox...
  • Exactly when the hell are we going to finally get a trailer for this fucking movie? I heard Cameron's wrapping up the 2-year post-development in May?
  • Transformers?
  • UK RADAR
    I can understand all of what Brendon writes, though he does seem to make typos in half his posts. But then who doesn't? I think its refreshing to have somebody go beyond the boring and say something more thoughtful.
  • Rob
    True, it isn't hard to follow, and he seems a reasonably smart sort of chap. That said, as a one-time English, Film, and Critical studies and theory student, I'm recognising that he *does* betray a love of sentences couched in lingo that sounds technica,l but signifies nothing. "Specific context of a properly established and acceptable subjectivity" indeed. Postmodernist ahoy... ;)
  • ho ho ho
    "Counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor... Death's too good for them!" - Vogon Captain, Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy
  • I think everyone is forgetting that Cameron made T2 and Titantic. If a successful first person scene, with blinking, was filmed in the Diving Bell and The Butterfly then I dont think Cameron's end result is going to disappoint. This movie is going to make my head explode when i finally see it.
  • chill out
  • Braneeack
    I disagree entirely. He just doesn't assume his audience has a 6th grade reading level.
  • Hellooo
    Um, it was a pun.
  • Yeah I know, that's what makes it faux (fake). Not every comment on the internet is sarcastic.
  • Has anyone ever seen "Lady in the Lake," a 1947 film shot entirely in the first person? You never see the main character's face unless it's in a mirror. I haven't seen it myself, but I was wondering if the gimmick worked for that film. At least Avatar won't be entirely from the first person.

    Read more at http://FrameRate.blog.com
  • jcameron
    f*cking haters everywhere
  • Does anyone know what this is going to be about?
  • In a distant future, humanity discovers the planet 'Alpha Centauri B-4', and for those scientists and astronauts who've traversed the gulf between neighboring suns and arrived on its alien soil know it as 'Pandora'
  • Avatarplz
    I hear a new summary every time, I just can't picture this movie at all. I really need to see a trailer sometime in the near future...
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