Playwright and screenwriter Tony Kushner last night took part in a panel discussion at the Harvard University Institute of Politics under the rather prolix heading of Looking For Lincoln: In his Time and Ours - A Conversation on the Meaning of Abraham Lincoln. Kushner’s invitation was most likely on the basis of his longterm engagement, scripting a Lincoln picture for Steven Spielberg.

Present at the event was a wonderful snoop who chose to confide in Jeff Wells via cellphone e-mail. This snoop reported a claim from Kushner that “the decision will be made on Lincoln next week” and that a green light would likely see the film in cinemas “before Christmas”. Kushner also gave some details on how the script has been shaped and what the narrative would entail.

So, what do we know? Here are some bullet points reported from Kushner’s revelations.

1. The movie only covers two months of Lincoln’s life.

2. The the first draft covered four months and was 500 pages long.

3. The 13th amendment, by which slavery was abolished,  “is a big thing in the movie.

4. Lincoln died just over four months after the 13th amendment was enacted, so either these two months of screen narrative are non-continuous, Kushner has taken some liberties, or Lincoln’s death won’t be part of the movie.

I’m thinking Kushner will have taken some liberties. I mean… that’s what he does. It’s what his director does. It’s how they tell stories. I might even put some of my imaginary money on the film ending with the abolition of slavery.

Sally Field and Liam Neeson are reportedly attached as the president and his wife, with Harrison Ford (perhaps improbably) rumoured to be taking on the role of Andrew Johnson, Lincoln’s successor.

Previous Kushner-Spielberg collaboration Munich (talking of liberties…) was released in cinemas within six months of principal photography beginning, so I see no reason why they couldn’t pull it off again.

And for the record, Kushner says “the decision”, but he really means “a decision”. If Lincoln isn’t given the greenlight this time, I dare say Spielberg will have another shot in the future.

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  • Malcolm
    Certainly am not looking forward to this. Spielberg's attempts at dealing with modern history as in 'The Color Purple', 'Empire of the Sun', 'Schindler's List' 'Amistad' is to so hopelessly romanticize and sanitize the recent past. It might be called cheap exploitation for the sake of a buck ('Holocaust Porn' in 'Schindler's List' case). Let it not be said that corporate whoredom doesn't have its (financial) benefits. No one will be surprised to find Lincoln a great hero of our times-with every hint that this may not have been the case, filtered out (Opium for the masses) And why would Tony Kushner, a proud gay man want to work for someone who doesn't even acknowledge in his films that gays and lesbians exist? (And don't think The Color Purple. The way Spielberg directed it was hard to know that they were even supposed to be lesbian-again filtered through middle class homophobia).
  • I've been waiting for this since, like, forever.

    Great news. Hopefully, it'll all be allright.
  • Liam neeson as president lincolm...for some reason i have a bad feeling about this casting choice
  • i really wanna see this movie. i'm really interested in what speilberg and neeson are going to do with the character.
  • 16l
    is anyone else unnerved by liams american accent?

    and to those lincoln haters out there, he was our greatest president so suck on that
  • I guess i wouldn't mind seeing a Lincoln film, especially if Spielberg's directing. I will say that it would be weird having Harrison Ford play President Andrew Johnson.
  • G-Dubs
    No studio was the least bit hesitant about Neeson, who's been an A-list actor (especially for international distribution) for over a decade. The true selling point of this film was always "Spielberg" - his films have enjoyed excellent, top-level distribution commtiments for over 20 years - regardless of who the star actors are.
  • dvva
    I'm sure the studio was a bit hesitant towards Liam Neeson being the lead as he isn't a big star. Of course, that all changed these past two weekends with Taken headed over 100 M.
  • Since Schindler's List, for me Liam Neeson has always been a big star.
  • dallegre
    Me and Jeff Wells are done professionally.
  • G-dubs
    Lee & DShelton: The film will very likely add a lot more historical context and additional details and 'takes' than the extremely simplistic takes with which someone has imparted to you two. Kushner has already obviously studied the era and events a lot closer than you have - not that this would stop you from pre-judging the script you haven't read, of course.

    Just like Jeff Wells' post - no one has brought up (or noticed, possibly) the HUGE elephant in the room with this project.

    It has recently been ramped up to preprod due to DW wanting to give Disney its first prestige project to distribute internationally and to announce, to gild the newly-inked deal between the companies.

    However, Kushner (a well-known and respected activist for homosexual rights) wants to address Lincoln's now-widely-accepted-by-historians bisexuality and his relationship in his later years with his "companion". I haven't heard anything about SS's desire to show this aspect. But its *extremely* unlikely that Disney would be at all comfortable with this - certainly not for its first film distributed under the pact. It would re-rip open the blue state/red state divide, and lead to "boycott Disney" movements in a business climate in which the corporation would really prefer to not rock the boat.

    This will be an interesting script to watch develop, that's for certain.
  • cant stand ya
    bisexuality widely accepted by historians? who are all these historians? where do you get your facts from? anything to make your beloved g-dub look better right?

    just because it makes for an interesting story doesnt make it true. dont believe everything that gore vidal tells you, especially when he's writing for vanity fair.

    care to humor me with some links to said historians?
  • just the facts
    There are no historians as gdubs claims who accept this, much less "widely". You must remember that there is reality and then there is the "gay reality." Reality is where people accept things based on facts. "Gay reality" is when gay people seem to think that all people are somehow gay whether they are or not, and when asked for proof claim that "everyone knows it" without ever explaining who "everyone" is.

    Many gay people are just very insecure or defensive about their own sexuality and falsely believe that a great many people hide their true homosexual feelings. This of course is nonsensical, but it's what they do. When you ask them for evidence of any of it their standard reply to every accusation (whether real or imagined) is: look at Rock Hudson.

    It's called wishful thinking, just like G-dubs idiotic post.
  • I really hope they don't screw up historically.

    I'm all for artistic liberties, but I really wouldn't want some sort of illogical conclusion.
  • Ok, Lincoln was pretty racist. For instance, he said he would have sent all the slaves back to Africa if he could, because he was afraid of the mixing of the races. He basically could've written Mein Kampf. That said, I still have some faith in this film. Who knows? They might tell the tale very candidly. If not, it will still probably feature good performances and be a better than average portrayal of the popularly perceived Lincoln. Who is a character far more interesting than the real fellow.
  • Tony Kushner is a GREAT playwright and can't wait to see how this turns out.
  • Lee
    Regardless, I'm sure this movie will just be a bunch of hollywood garbage. Lincoln wasn't some gung-ho american fighting the south to stop slavery. In fact, Lincoln wanted to win the civil war regardless of abolishing slavery. The main reasons for the civil war was not slavery, believe it or not. But I'm sure this Spielberg extravaganza will be about as accurate as Wild Wild West.

    ""If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that...I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free." -Lincoln
  • FreedomPopular
    I couldn't agree more.

    Still Liam as Lincoln sounds pretty interesting.
  • sounds good to me. i loved "Munich" so i expect great things from this.
  • I'm so excited about this project.
  • Sounds pretty interesting!
  • thats great but isn't he shooting a film like now? I would hate to see diluted quality by spreading himself too thin.
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