Dark Knight ReturnsAt the Watchmen panel, Zack Snyder expressed his love for Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns, in response to a question about the more mature direction of comic book adaptations.

“There are a lot of other graphic novels out there, but I would love to see Frank Miller’s Dark Knight made into a movie, but that’s just me.”

Later at the Entertainment Weekly Visionaries panel, Frank Miller told Snyder “You can do it anytime you want to Zack”. To which Snyder said he was making a note of Miller’s response. Now I know this is very speculative, but even Batman producer Michael Uslan has already expressed interest in a possible adaptation.

Miller’s four-issue comic book miniseries, Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, was first published in 1986. It has since become one of the most popular graphic novel/trade paperbacks of all time. It reintroduced Batman to the general public as the psychologically dark character of his original 1930s conception, and helped to usher in an era of “grim and gritty” superheroes from the mid-1980s to mid-1990s.

Set 20 years in the future, criminals run amok and a gang called the Mutants terrorize Gotham City as superheros are a thing of the past. Bruce Wayne has been retired from crime fighting for ten years following the death of Jason Todd, the second Robin. Despite Wayne’s funding the rehabilitation of Harvey Dent (Two-Face), Dent returns to crime. Wayne dons the Batman costume again and apprehends Dent, but the populace debates whether Batman is a savior.

But with Nolan expected to return for a third chapter in the series, might/could Warner Bros also launch a secondary Batman film? This practice is common in the comic book industry, where top franchise characters usually have a few titles running simultaneously, in addition to the occasional one-shot mini-series/graphic novel… Also, is Zack Snyder the guy to bring The Dark Knight Returns to the big screen?

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  • epiconionz
    Christopher Nolan is the prefect director for Dark Knight Returns, no doubt, but I wouldn't cringe at the idea of Snyder doing it. He was the worst possible choice for Watchmen, true, but DKR isn't as delicate a piece. Either way, I reeeeally hope they do it eventually, it would be perfect for the big screen.
  • epiconionz
    Nolan is the director for the Dark Knight Returns, no question, but I wouldn't cringe at the idea of Snyder doing it. He was the worst possible choice for Watchmen, but Dark Knight isn't as delicate a piece of work. Either way, I reeeeeeeeally hope they make this movie, it prefectly suits the big screen.
  • jesselopez
    i do agree with zack snyder directing a movie adaptation of batman the dark knight returns because he did say that it's his graphic novel along with
    watchmen and we'll need to wait until chris nolan's next installment of the
    batman begin series to be the last installment. here's the cast of actors
    who can star in zack snyder's adaptation of the dark knight returns.

    batman/bruce wayne: michael madsen

    superman/clark kent: jeffery dean morgan

    commissioner jim gordon: steven mchattie

    alfred pennyworth: john hurt

    robin/carrie kelly: haley adriana guiel (in were she played young laurie in watchmen)

    selina kyle: helena bonham carter

    green arrow/oliver queen: billy bob thornton

    the son of batman: zachary quinto

    ellen yindell: sarah michelle gellar

    the joker: willem dafoe

    harvey dent/two face: kurt russell

    the mutant leader: derek mears
  • Paul
    Lets get Nolan to do it. He clearly loves Miller's batman work i mean Gary Oldman is Year One Batman and he nicked a whole mess of crap from ever DKR

    Like Tank Batmobile. I think he could do it well. Snyder isn't that bad. 300 was scene for scene perfect no character develoment was Miller's fault because he hates all the soppy shit and that's why we love his work. Miller loved 300 and if Alan Moore would ease up for once i recon he'd be okay with Watchmen is was pretty damn good.

    Returns needs a steller cast though like Clint Eastwood as batman and Ellen Page as robin.

    It's dark and in the same vein as Watchmen so i say give Snyder a chance but offer it to Nolan
  • kyle
    by the way guys. how can nolan stay to his batman world forever? comic book adaptations should be dark and rated r. only batman can actually be rated r, and snyder should do this. rather nolan's fans can do it. nobody will be confused, for it's easy to tell everything if having already read it or just to search it online. think. you're the one that's jealous; molotov.
  • kyle
    snyder is a perfect choice. i saw watchmen, and loved it. the only way you can't like it is you don't understand one darn bit of it, and i understood everything.

    he is a perfect choice. watch the fanmade batman film, ashes to ashes, if haven't seen already. it's brilliant! every bit of it is graphic, and the sin city concept is great! joker and harley are fucking sychos to! anyways, nolan can do a different story for batman.

    villians should be hush, riddler, and black mask. have it the final one already.
  • ToTheChase
    I just watched "Dawn of the Dead" remake, having been a big fan of the original for a long time. It's a good screnplay directed dully with Snyder's now typical zombielike, by-the-numbers, stiff direction. Like "Haunting in Connecticut" which also has a good script, this one is rendered adolescent by overly loud and insulting fake-out scares. And also interesting to me is that one of the opening credit shots single-handedly almost ruined "Dawn" for me. The credit montage is scarier than the rest of the whole film, but one of the first shots inserted to scare your pants off is a cynical, unrelated and I say racist shot of Muslims praying. This should be a reminder that many filmmakers grow up in isolated bubble worlds where they feel they're better than others and will use any jaded attempt to poke at a paying audience. I think Snydie's particular contempt is also evidenced by his "BlueTube" display pushed on "Watchmen" viewers.
  • The Mark of Zorro
    So, now that Watchmen is out, what's the verdict on Zack Snyder to direct DKR?
    Personally, I thought he did a pretty good job adapting the Watchmen story faithfully, even if he had to leave out a lot of the smaller details and rush the character development. But DKR isn't nearly as long or complex as Watchmen, so I think Zack could definitely handle it.

    I'd love to see Batman on the back of a huge black horse, enlisting the S.O.B.s to help maintain control in Gotham, while Dream Evil's "Into the Moonlight" plays in the background.

    But that's just me.
  • veo1daniel
    How about a tv series like heroes style look smallville
  • Ahsan
    It would be great to watch the dark knight returns
  • The Mark of Zorro
    I would love to see a Dark Knight Returns movie. Every time another movie based on a Frank Miller book comes out, I think "man, when are they gonna do Batman?"

    I know there are a lot of Jack Nicholson fans out there, but I think a good choice for the Joker if they were to make a DKR movie would be to simply cast Mark Hammill. He does the best Joker voice by far, and he´s about the right age now, too. As for Batman, I´m not sure, it would have to be someone who can capture the bitterness of the character, especially since Bruce gets even more disgruntled and violent in Miller´s version. Maybe Kevin Conroy can hit the gym and give it a shot? It may sound like a fan boy´s wet dream, but to have Conroy and Hamill in a mainstream Batman movie would be awesome because it would finally show everyone who didn´t watch the cartoons how awesome those two voice actors were.

    On another note, who thinks a Dark Knight Strikes Again adaptation would be the trippiest thing ever?
  • dwalroc
    After Nolan and Bale do Dark Knight 3, wait ten or fifteen years and bring them back for Dark Knight Returns. That would be bad ass. No one does Bat Man better, and no one ever will.
  • Sheldon Lozovsky
    You know, I would love to have a movie adaptation of "The Dark Knight Returns". I just wished it would be directed by Tim Burton and starring Michael Keaton as Batman. It would be a continuation of Tim Burton's Batman, but much older. And Michael Keaton would fit well because he aged too. And Batman Returns is my favourite ol Batman movie.
  • EL JIMMY
    junior 81, this would be a batman that has nothing to do with Batman Begins/Dark Knight franchise. This would probably be a one-shot deal. In Dark Knight Returns, Bruce Wayne comes out of retirement at the age of 60. Christian Bale has a ways to go to get there.

    As far as te cast: I always thought Paul Newman would be a good old Bruce Wayne, but he's way too old now. Yes, its a work in progress, but who would play Superman or female Robin? Vin Diesel would be perfect for Mutant Leader.
  • Re:Junior 81

    So what you're saying is, keep Nolan and Bale? Just making sure...
  • JUNIOR 81
    please dont mess up the movies. dont let another director film the thired movie or fourth movie in the batman sequels. just let nolan direct the movie and keep it that way and keep Bale as batman also. dont mess up a good thing here. like they did with the old batman movies. you know? like when they stated with the first batman and batman returns if had same director and same batman-(michael keaton), but when the third one came out or fourth one they change directors and they change the the batmans and that really suck that micheal keaton didnt stayed as batman and the directore didnt kept up with it. so PLEASE! dont change the Nolan or Bale in the next batman3 or batman4 because you know you will piss off alot of fans and people and the movies will suck! so please dont mess up Nolans image and dont change the batman keep it with christain bale. i think alot of of fans will agree to this. thanks. keep Nolan and Bale in the next batman 3 and batman4.
  • MovieFan
    Eh, cast needs work, NO DICK GRAYSON! (he's dead and let him be dead, especially in film) and there is no way I'd watch a Batman film that's done in a 300 style film, all special effects poor plot and dialog, you might as well put Michael Bay direct it. Sin City look might work if it the plot wasn't done in a non-linear like most Tarantino and Rodriguez films.
  • EL JIMMY
    I have the cast already in my head!

    Ed Harris: Wayne/Batman

    Jack Nicholson: Joker (why not?)

    Michael Gough: Alfred (hopefully, he can still do the job.)

    Bruce Willis: Harvey/Two-Face (He can play serious and crazy)

    Casper Van Dien: Clark/Superman (yeah, a stretch, but he's got a goofy superhero look to him. Too bad Bruce Campbell got old.)

    Robin: can't think of a good one yet. Too bad Natalie Portman is too old for the part.

    Jake Gyllenhaal: Dick Grayson (He wasn't in DKR but was in DKSA. could make a cameo.)

    Film could be shot like Sin City or 300 or Spirit... any of the Miller adaptations, and Alex Ross could design the costumes, like the Batman suit worn in the short film BATMAN: DEAD END. Just my two cents.
  • MovieFan
    *right director to do DKR*
    sorry had to fix that
  • MovieFan
    Now don't get me wrong, I didn't put Tim Burton down, as a matter of fact, if you actually read what I wrote I said he did a great job. What I mean is that I don't think he's the right from to do DKR and Tim's style are waay too different.

    I'm talking about is blood, murder, and deep psychological part of DKR that Burton can't accomplish if he took it the same direction from his first two films. Yes the first time set a mile stone for Batman, but this is a different Batman, he's aged, he's a bit disgruntle, and most of all he is brutal. I just don't see Burton's directing style working with this.
  • Alfred
    I kind of see what your saying bruce... Tim Burton took it away from the extreme campiness in Batman and Batman returns and took it a tollerable campiness because I mean a man dressed in a suit and a clown man and a penguin and a catwoman are campy characters ...from their names to their motives. You can put some british actors on it and try and make it seem serious but come on :Batman" did he really have to be a "Bat" He could have just been a nameless vigilante...that name "Bat-man" exudes campiness" One thing I did like about Burton's films was that with his "tone and style" he could use "all" the villains not a select few which is Nolan's dilema. Batman is a comic book first and movie star 2nd so I woulda preffered a tone where they could use all the rogues gallery
  • bRUCE wAYNE
    Tim Burton did a amazing job on batman what the heck you talkin' about? The story sucked but the look and the performances were influencial to the comic book and the cartoons and even Nolan admitted taking a little here and there from the comics and from the film noir feel...He just didn't want to film it on a "set" like burton did ...so he used chicago a real city instead...don't hate on burton and call his shit campy.....adam west was campy...burt just made his "exactly" like a comic book.
  • MovieFan
    I kind of disagree, though Tim Burton did a great job with Batman, his style is a bit too campy. DKR is pretty gritty, and uses topics you don't really find in a comic book. DKR was a genre changing comic for batman, Burton like to go a little old school with his.

    The choice of cast would have to be new as well. Keaton may be the right age but he could never really play the "disgruntle" side of Bruce Wayne . Nickolson would be waaaayyy to campy for this version of the Joker (not to mention too small), it needs someone bigger, and more effeminate.
  • That's actually a pretty cool idea. Maybe someday, after the Bale era, Burton can re-inlist the original Batman cast and do a Dark Knight Returns send-up. In fact, the more I think about that, Burton might be the best choice, since DKR has a pretty satirical slant to it, and is, for lack of a better word, 'far-fetched' enough that it wouldn't fit very well into the world of what is established with the Bale films. Plus, Keaton is probably about the right age now, or pretty soon to portray an old Bruce Wayne. And Jack Nickolson? Yeah. Hell yeah.
  • Ry
    What about bringing back Tim Burton to capture the darker side of Batman again?
  • It needs to happen. I would much prefer they wait until Christian Bale and co. have settled into the characters more, so that this story has more meaning than to just recast older versions of everyone. After all, Bruce Wayne is 55 years old in The Dark Knight Returns. That's not to suggest we should wait 20 years to see this happen, but perhaps they plan it as the last chapter in the Bale era of Batman films, however many that might end up being.
  • MovieFan
    I kind of disagree with Snyder as a director, he is still a little green as far as a director goes. While I enjoyed Dawn of The Dead and 300, Watchmen and Batman is in a completely different league.

    He gives good visuals, but I feel he will ruin Watchmen cause the man can't write a good script, just copy/paste comic into film. That just won't work with Watchmen.
  • Nothing
    ...now I can understand why those who read Watchmen are getting pissed off.

    It might not been needed in Sin City (exception to Marv) but the bulkiness of the characters was a very distinct look for the male characters in that series. Really, you gonna' have two actors (Bats and Sups) try to beat it out in body suits?

    I'm not even gonna' bother saying they shouldn't but seriously, don't try to smear a legacy. Also, it's best animated (yes, actual hand drawned) because, unless they make the best cel-shading graphics the world has ever seen, it just doesn't do the film justice.
  • Cowardymius
    orange cinema has it right. WB should wait at least 10 years after Nolan's last Batman flick before introducing such a potentially confusing story line. IMHO, Nolan should wait another 5-6 years himself after his third Batman film if he is going to continue with the francise to get a fresh take/perspective. The only downside to that is that actors age.

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  • Albert Brodsky
    Bruce Campbell needs to get into the gym right now to begin preparing for this role.
  • Julio
    Zack Snider is highly overrated.

    While his movies are unique and entertaining, he's nothing special.

    And seriously, let Nolan make his third film before the "others" screw up the Batman franchise all over again.
  • 91939
    He's in the process of butchering Watchmen, he can't be allowed to butcher anything remotely Batman. Didn't Snyder just recently say that Batman would be raped in prison if he directed Batman? Not that he would literally do THAT (maybe, who knows?), but it's indicative of his ridiculous reasoning. But I guess to him it's all cool/awesome/super-awesome, since those are the only 3 adjectives he knows how to describe anything with.
  • 88
    A Snyder DKR would be the perfect next step. Nolan keeps making noises like TDK was his last Bats picture; fine. TDK was a bit of a drag. Nolan's got some tricks, and the movie definitely has moments, but it ain't what it coulda been and it never amounts to even the sum of its parts (as cool as some of those parts might be).

    Snyder's no genius, but he's a sharp and energetic transcriber. I think Watchmen will prove to be more than he can lift, but DKR is brutal in its directness and simplicity and it would be totally suited for Snyder's cro-magnon apppoach.

    Not only that, but DRK is so strong, so monolithic, that all you really have to do is transcribe it and you've got the Batman movie to end all Batman movies.

    This is a great idea. Get Miller involved. It'll be huge.
  • 88
    This is exactly what the doctor ordered.

    Snyder may not be any sort of genius, but he's a great and energetic transcriber.

    DKR is amazing stuff. Transcribe it faithfully and you've got a movie to end all movies. Come on: Batman fights Two-Face, a mutant street gang, the Joker and Superman all in one story???? It's perfect, and Miller's Batman is a greatest triumph and subversion of the character in existence.

    Personally, I wish Nolan's version of Batman was a bit closer to DKR. TDK was a downer and deconstructed the character in ways that are, bluntly, a total drag.
  • 88
    This is exactly what the doctor ordered.

    Snyder may not be any sort of genius, but he's a great and energetic transcriber.

    DKR is amazing stuff. Transcribe it faithfully and you've got a movie to end all movies. Come on: Batman fights Two-Face, a mutant street gang, the Joker and Superman all in one story???? It's perfect, and Miller's Batman is a greatest triumph and subversion of the character in existence.

    Personally, I wish Nolan's version of Batman had evolved closer to DKR. TDK was a downer and deconstructed the character in ways that are, bluntly, a total freakin' drag.
  • starscream9289
    ii say
    UWE BOLL SHOULD DIRECT THIS!!!
    i kid, i kid XD
  • Moviola
    I would say that the next live action film would be using The Dark Knight Returns as a heavy influence, but the problem is that they won't have the Joker back for that film. To me, Rachel is the replacement for Jason Todd, the reason Batman questions his own code. "If he kills the Joker, won't that save lives?"

    I think Empire mentioned that they would love to see Ellen Page play Robin. That's the direction I would like to see if they make Robin a character, especially with those green goggles from DKR.

    An animated film would be a great way to make DKR. I'm not big on all this green screen shit. I happen to side with Alan Moore on the Watchmen, though that trailer looked good. Although I think the main reason he's not interested in the film is artistic integrity. When the movie version of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was sued for copyright infringement, it made Moore look like he ripped something off. In fact it was material that did not come from his comic that was stolen. I think that soured it all with him, and I get that.

    DKR is Batman's end game and I'd love to see it on film, but not Zack Snyder's way.
  • Danny Glover for batman!
  • Pill
    There was already an animated adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns, it was a segment of an episode from The New Batman Adventures, and had been done in Miller's style.

    I'm all for a live-action interpretation though, Snyder isn't exactly a dream director for it, but I'd be more interested in seeing this then more of Nolan's shit.
  • gah
    Zack is pigeonholing himself as the "comic book guy". Its not a wise career move to do another comic book movie. Plus, I don't really think he's very good.
  • DeadByDawn
    I think that it would be hard to bring the dark knight returns to screen like that.There is way too much going on and the end battle with superman alone i couldn't see being done into film.Now,a animated film would be way better look at what the last season of batman the animated series.there is an episode named Legends of the Dark Knight where these kids tell stories of what they think batman would be like.The second one is ripped right from dkr.(if you haven't seen it,look up Legends of the Dark Knight on you tube it's the first one)That is sick IMO so,if dc animated would make a movie and release in the theaters like they did with batman the mask of the phantasm everybody would be happy.Let's see what zack does with watchman who here thinks he will make a movie that is so unforgettable like nolan did?

    here is the link for those that have not seen the dk clip
  • DeadByDawn
    I think that it would be hard to bring the dark knight returns to screen like that.There is way too much going on and the end battle with superman alone i couldn't see being done into film.Now,a animated film would be way better look at what the last season of batman the animated series.there is an episode named Legends of the Dark Knight where these kids tell stories of what they think batman would be like.The second one is ripped right from dkr.That is sick IMO so,if dc animated would make a movie and release in the theaters like they did with batman the mask of the phantasm everybody would be happy.Let's see what zack does with watchman who here thinks he will make a movie that is so unforgettable like nolan did?

    here is the link for those that have not seen the dk clip

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoZLPwRCjcQ
  • 01bat
    300 had cool factor because fans loves the source material, and it was cool to see some images recreated onscreen. But in directing that film, Snyder was doing the filmmaking equivalent of copy & paste, then using slooooo-mo to rub it our faces and say "see? see? i read it, and look, this slow bit looks just like that panel there!". Not hard with a $100m+ budget. But taking that approach quickly becomes boring for the audience, and something of the essence of the source material was lost among the incessant shouting and overblown performances. Simply recreating someone else's images on a big screen requires no talent, and I'm still waiting for Snyder to show us that he has some. A real director can make a quiet scene as completely engaging as a big battle -- Snyder failed dismally in the quiet dialogue parts of 300 (and Dead in my opinion), and it wasn't all the screenwriter's fault. I think Watchmen will most likely demonstrate once again that he is good at asking his art director and DP to copy the look of something, but the rest might seem tired and wholly disappointing.

    i.e. No.
  • IAmTheBatman
    If he does good with Watchmen, then yes.
  • brian
    Robert Rodriguez is a shoe in to direct.
  • orange cinema
    they need to wait at least ten years to make this. any sooner is a BAD idea.
  • Not Mark
    No movie at least not as a sequel to the Dark Knight. (how you going to explain Robin is back?)..

    Just do a animated series in Millers style and then take the time doing several one hour episodes to do the entire thing instead of compacting it down to 2 and 1/2 hours. By the time it is done, plenty of theaters will have digital projection and you can show it there.
  • Captain Molotov
    And PS: Yes, people WOULD get confused. In fact basically ANYONE who doesn't go to websites like this one, would get confused.

    "Aww, why isn't Christian Bale Batman? Why is the whole cast different?"

    (Then, when Nolan's third Batman comes out.)

    "So wait, now they're all back?"

    People are fucking stupid and everyone knows it. Don't tell me your "not-in-the-know" mom or dad or sibling or ditzy girlfriend or "bro" isn't gonna have to ask you to explain it to them.
  • Captain Molotov
    I just lost all respect for this guy and as cool as Watchmen looks it just made me want to see it a lot less for lack of wanting to put what will then be $9.50 in this guy's pocket.

    This prick is just jealous because The Dark Knight is a lot more brilliant than 300 (which was good, but not great.) I'll literally hunt him down and kill him if he does this unless it's animated.

    The saddest thing is that I bet the studio will let him get away with doing this because hey, there's money in Batman now. I thought maybe there was some kind of code amongst artists- why would he piss all over Nolan's Batman by distracting everyone with his own unless he was just a greedy fucking coward?

    He owes Nolan big time - literally half of his Watchmen audience will be there strictly from seeing the Watchmen trailer WITH The Dark Knight. Yes, I know, Nolan doesn't pick the trailers, but still.
  • StephenG
    Look, I worship Nolan and Goyer as my personal gods, and I think that their vision of Batman has been the best thing to happen to the character since the graphic novel boom in the 80s (The Killing Joke, Dark Knight Returns, etc) but I say since Nolan has made it clear he intends it to be a trilogy, make a Dark Knight Returns movie. It's one of the greatest Batman stories of all time and it deserves to be immortalized in film. And for Zack Snyder, I'm a huge Watchmen fan and he really impressed me with the trailer and his overall faithfulness to the novel, so I'm all for him directing it.
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