How does it feel to be the lead character in the first female-led Marvel movie?

I don’t know. I don’t know how it’s any different. To be honest, I don’t want it to feel different. Kind of over the “First female blah blah blah,” and “Wow, maybe women can actually do the same things that dudes can do.” What a crazy concept. I feel like the more we talk about it, the more we perpetuate the myth that it’s an impossible task. No, if it wasn’t like that before, it’s because it was wrong. That was just wrong. Now we’re just doing what’s natural.

What do you want the female audience to come away with? Rather than have that, is there anything, in particular, you were excited to see?

No. It doesn’t matter what I make, I feel really firmly that art is made to be enjoyed and interpreted, and you get what you need out of it. My favorite books I’ve read multiple times in my life, and they mean something totally different to me every time I read them. Art isn’t made to be processed and labeled and organized in the way that we do it now. I even have a hard time with the idea of genre, and that we place value based off of, “Well, it’s really good for this kind of movie.” What’s that even mean? I don’t understand.

It’ll be what it is, and I think there’s gonna be lot there for people to digest and feel. And hopefully it’ll be the movie that you wanna revisit again and again, and as life goes on, it’ll have more to it. I just wanna make art that lasts. I wanna make art that you grow with. That’s all.

We heard that Kelly Sue DeConnick is consulting on the movie, which is really exciting.


And you’ve, I’m assuming, talked to her. Could you share maybe some advice, or stories, or just how she’s helped you get into Carol a little better?

Oh gosh. I have to admit that talking with her was so surreal. I feel like I just blacked out. I felt really nervous because it’s this thing that, this woman that she created, that I feel very certain she knows way better than I do. I just was so honored to receive her blessing and to see how excited she was. And that felt like a relief to me. Because she pushed this forward, you know? We wouldn’t be here without her, really. And I’m so grateful for that character that she created, and now we’re just kind of following the breadcrumb trail that she made, you know?

Can you talk to us about the relationship between Carol and Maria, and how Monica might view Carol?

I think the Maria dynamic is really important in this movie. She is the representation of love in this film. And it is something that I’m very proud of, that the love relationship, and it is a deep love relationship, is not by the same lustful definition that we usually attribute to movies of this size. That it’s more complex, and also I think more meaningful than most love relationships that I see in films like this.

And Maria as a character is an incredible badass in her own way. And they are equals, and I think seeing two women that have a playful competitiveness while also mutual respect and care, and have gone through so much together, there’s a lot of history, and are just best friends is something that I’m excited to see. Because uncomplicated sort of female friendships are sort of rare to see. I have a lot of them in my life, so to be able to bring that on screen with someone who’s just so crazy talented, and smart, and beautiful, and wonderful, and is doing her own part to make sure that there are revolutions in a movie that are her own, that she’s creating, is just awesome.

You were talking about how you’re tired of everyone talking about, okay, this is the first female movie, etc., etc., but then this year we had Black Panther, which was huge. And we all knew what the money would make, but then there was the other side where it was like, “Oh, it’s gonna make this amount of money.” So are you excited or ready for the reaction that Captain Marvel’s gonna get?

I’m not ready. [Laughs] I hope I’m not ready.  Because I wanna be, if it is something, then I wanna be surprised, and I don’t wanna have an expectation, because I’m not in it for that. I didn’t make this movie for any of those things so that I could attach a numerical value to it.

But just the inspiration that comes with it.

Even that is not up to me, you know? You don’t get to decide if you’re an inspiration to people or not. And the idea of … I’ve had, since I’ve agreed to do this role, people have said, “Oh, well you’ll be a role model, blah blah blah.” I’m just gonna do what feels true to me, and if people wanna tag along, they can, and if they don’t, they can bounce, and that’s cool. I’m not gonna go out of my way to do things in order to be something to people.

All of my heroes were just unapologetically themselves. And they were flawed at times, and that’s okay. So for me, it’s part of who Carol is too. She’s flawed. She’s not perfect. So in order for me … in order for me to feel comfortable stepping into this position, I have to accept my humanness and remind everybody that I’m a human, and I’m an artist. And I just wanna make art, and that’s really it.

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