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When Netflix partnered with the Starz network in October 2008 the deal was a serious coup. Through the deal with Starz, Netflix got access to a large library of streaming movies, and did so without having to negotiate digital rights with individual studios. Some of the Starz content is represented by old, low-quality pan and scan transfers (just try to stream The Terminator) but much of the content is quite good. If you’ve watched Wall-E streaming on Netflix it is thanks to the Starz deal.

Now Bloomberg is reporting on a possible change to the deal. We knew this would happen sooner or later: Disney is seeking to change the terms of the business it does with Starz.

According to the report, Starz wants licenses with Disney to allow five years of access, including cable and digital venues. Disney, meanwhile, wants those streaming the studio’s films to pay a premium for the privilege. The current Starz / Disney deal expires in 2012, but as Netflix is currently making an aggressive push for streaming films, any far-reaching change in terms will have a real effect on the company’s outlook.

Part of Disney’s attitude may be motivated by a studio plan to build a new online subscription service. Whether this would incorporate the company’s ‘Keychest’ technology isn’t specified at this point, but that seems likely.

Starz, meanwhile, was determined to hang onto digital rights, at least as of last year. Speaking in November 2009, Starz CEO Robert Clasen stated, “Given the nature of the way the business is moving, we would be foolish to enter into an agreement that pushed back rights to the studio.” Former HBO chief Chris Albrecht is now the CEO at Starz. One of his focal points is expected to be developing original content, and I haven’t encountered his stance on the company’s digital catalog. From a consumer standpoint, I’m rooting for Starz. If Disney is given the terms the studio wants, we’ll have to jump through more hoops to stream films.

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  • Dogdoctor
    I love Netflix streaming and am definitely rooting for them all the way. If Disney fucks them over I'll not be happy. Disney sucks.
  • mark jackson
    The Disney Company's streaming service is actually in Beta. Anyone who buys the Up DVD or Blu-Ray can log in a code and view the entire film online for just the price of the DVD. It's pretty cool and it looks like Disney would make it so that people had to buy the DVD versus a subscription style service.
  • dagreenman18
    It would be a loss because of the sheer amount of movies that the Starz deal brought.

    On a related note, i wonder what it would take to strike a streaming deal with HBO.
  • freemachine
    A streaming deal with HBO would be interesting. I'm a little pissed off right now that the latest season of Curb ended a month ago, but is not available On Demand through my cable provider (Cox). Actually, very few HBO series are available On Demand, and none of them are complete at any one time (i.e. season 3 by itself). I'd love to see Netflix purchase rights for all of the big HBO series, especially the older ones like Oz.
  • TheMarquis
    Netflix Streaming has quickly become my primary form of movie watching. I hope that nothing sets the service back, or my wallet and TV will be very unhappy.
  • Honestly, I see this more as a sign of things to come from Apple. Apple has long been rumored to be planning a subscription streaming service like Netflix. Steve Jobs, due to the Disney acquisition of Pixar, is the CEO of Apple as well as the single largest shareholder of Disney. Disney is the first on board for a lot of Apple projects since the Pixar acquisition. I think this means that Apple is gearing up their subscription service, finally.
  • dogless
    I assume that would make Apple's back catalog mostly Touchstone, Miramax, Disney and Dimension.

    Assuming they'd make it difficult for Netflix to get these movies, would that be enough to warrant a decent service, or even come close to rival Netflix?
  • I don't think it has anything at all to do with Netflix having difficulty getting Disney films. I think it has more to do with Apple using Disney to force the prices of Netflix up a tad. Even a dollar or two more a month would be enough for Apple to step in at the old price and claim disgruntled customers.

    A brilliant strategy, if I am correct. Highly unethical, and I sure there would be investigations, but brilliant nonetheless.
  • @Dogless: Yes, that could be a problem. But not if they had already secured the necessary commitments from the studios. They are supposedly announcing a tablet in the next week and a half. If this is part of that announcement, surely they have done the hard work already and gotten the necessary agreements. Perhaps they plan to have pushed Netflix back to nothingness by the time these contracts run out.

    It's risky, as well as unethical, but still incredibly brilliant. The businessman in me (thankfully I changed my major away from that) is screaming that Apple could be leading a coup in the entertainment sector right now. And I can't help but smile at the magnificence of it, if it is true.
  • dogless
    What about other studios making it difficult for Apple, because of their connections with Disney?

    It may just turn into a big, fat stalemate.

    I'm just hoping it makes more movies more accessible, much faster.
  • I don't know why i still use netflix the HD streaming isn't that great and they rarely get good new content.. i wish the new blu-ray redbox would come out so i could cancel my netflix account, only reason im keeping it is because its cheaper to rent BRs from them then hollywood video/blockbuster
  • Max
    i never use the streaming, quality and selection isnt that good. It only takes a day to get my 3 dvds
  • thank you video store job. netflix is wasted on this guy.
  • Liam
    One thing we all have to understand is that technology is always a stepping stone. Yeah, we get pan and scan versions now, but at least it's streaming and we're on our way to seeing entire libraries online and available at any time. Should Disney get this deal, then suddenly the market is splintered and we're back to the old Blu-Ray Vs DvD thing again, only it becomes who do you pay for your streaming movies. Netflix has a HUGE library of films and has already made large strides in bringing stream-able into reality. I think we'd do better to throw our support behind NetFlix and let them do what has been their plan all along and finally digitize first run films...
    In a split market, the only people who loose are the customers..
  • Scott K
    I normally avoid movies with the little 'Starz Play' logo on Netflix because of the crappy looking 4:3 versions. Not a big loss in my book.
  • Reniassance_Man
    I do the same thing. Starz films are also never in HD so that's a double whammy against me ever watching their catalog. I wouldn't mind Netflix losing the entire Starz catalog if it meant that even a fraction of those films would show up in HD through some other means.
  • arthera09
    I love how a netflix ad sits in the middle of this article.
  • This is a big fucking shame.
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