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WHOA. As I mentioned earlier, Nikki Finke just recruited Variety’s chief newshound Mike Fleming, and now the new duo are coming out of the gate with a massive story. Their first big report is that Sony is scrapping Spider-Man 4 after script and schedule concerns caused Sam Raimi to walk away from the film. The scuttled sequel has already been confirmed by a Sony Pictures press release, and the studio will now go for a full franchise reboot. New director, new cast. Details after the break.

Finke and Fleming’s report says the decision was made just today, and that the studio will start over with a “franchise reboot” script by James Vanderbilt. They quote sources reporting that Raimi said he couldn’t make the picture’s 2011 release date and maintain quality standards.

The Sony press release offers more info. Shorn of back-patting quotes, the core info is as follows:

Peter Parker is going back to high school when the next Spider-Man hits theaters in the summer of 2012. Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios announced today they are moving forward with a film based on a script by James Vanderbilt that focuses on a teenager grappling with both contemporary human problems and amazing super-human crises.

That means no Malkovich, no Vulture, no Vulturess, and no more Kirsten Dunst. Let’s see what Sony comes up with now; bets on a thinly-translated Ultimate Spider-Man adaptation? Reboot writer James Vanderbilt wrote an early draft of Spider-Man 4, and had been hired to write the presumptive fifth and sixth films.

When that deal for SM5 and 6 came down last August, the possibility of those scripts being the basis for a reboot was mentioned, so this isn’t an utter left-field surprise. Though a studio scrapping a film as potentially massive as Spidey 4 in favor of a reboot is still a huge deal; this is nothing like rebooting the Hulk, or Ghost Rider or Fantastic Four.

What next for Raimi? Will he go directly on to World of Warcraft, the Dennis Lehane adaptation The Given Day, or something else? (Another smaller film?) All things considered, you’ve got to guess that he and Tobey Maguire are both more happy than anything else to get away from increasingly difficult franchise.

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  • Nate Fernandes
    Yeah wow....lets take our advice from some nobody spewing that the Trilogy was worthless based on their own opinions of what they thought it should be. The whole Trilogy made...let's see....over 2 billion dollars world wide --- obviously people liked the current Trilogy very much. The 3rd actually made the most money out of them all, almost 50 million more. Guess what? The Dark Knight and Batman Begins haven't made close to that. Not even nipping at the toes of the Spider-Man Trilogy yet. Dont get me wrong...I love the Batman movies. The old and the new for different reasons (Michael Keaton best Batman hands down) but the Dark Knight was so boring and the Joker was too invincible.

    The point is in Spider-Man they had a wonderful forumla on screen. Who the fuck cares about "EDGY" woooo..EDGY!!! I dont want the film to fucking jump out of the screen and ninja kick me in the face.....I want a good fucking story and good fucking characters who have chemistry who I can enjoy listening to without wanting to rip my ears off. Raimi and the cast really brought the Spider-Man icon to life. It showed you Peter's inginuity (sp) and his sacrifices in the first film..... showed you the consequences of his sacrifices and his will-power in the second....and the third showed us how powerful all the connections and loyalities made him throughout all three films. The end scene with him dancing with M.J was heart warming too and a fitting end. Forgiveness is very powerful.

    To say that Kirsten Dunst wasn't good for the role either is utter ridiculousness. She played a "real" woman not a comic book woman and looks sexy enough without being slutty. The Spider-Man Trilogy was about making the hero and the situations more realistic and it did it very well. Tobey played an AWESOME Peter Parker too. He was unassuming, troubled but smart and brave which IS Spider-Man. As Peter Parker his life is a fucking mess....as Spider-Man its supposed to be a different kind of mess --- which the trilogy showed off nicely.

    Anyway...I was really looking forward to the 4th film but I guess Sony wasn't appreciating the 2 Billion Dollars their director made for them. Sony is full of tools now. PS3 was a perfect example of that.

    In short. Give me characters with chemistry. Characters who are realistically working in the comic world. Characters who captured us like the trilogy did and bring back Raimi and the original cast. Its too fucking early for a reboot and the idea of anyone taking over those rains is stupid. I dont want a big breasted bimbo playing Mary Jane (Kirsten has nice boobs anyway), I want a Mary Jane (like Kirsten) who is both pretty and sexy without forcing it or crossing the line of slutdom. -shakes head- I dont want some super ripped and super buffed dick head with an annoying voice playing Peter Parker in his "High School" years. Who cares? Put our director and our cast in the saddle and let them make the great films they've been making.

  • Jim
    Are you kidding me. Yeah do a reboot when he was a teenager and finding out he is spiderman. OH WAIT THAT WAS DONE IN THE FIRST 30 MINUTES OF THE FIRST SPIDERMAN FILM!!!! I am a die hard SPiderman film but I have no interest in this
  • Chris Kuehl
    The Spider-Man reboot will hopefully be very good, BUT I still think that many people don't step back and take time to appreciate the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy. Those films are Great, Memorable, and Unique. Sam has a heart for the character; does this Marc Webb have the same love? It's possible that Marc may make the new film darker, not include Mary Jane Watson, and do the origin all over again. What sucks is the fact that so many people become so distasteful and close-minded with super-hero movies that they forget about that the movies' true and simple meaning are of promoting good, compassion, and using your abilities or super-powers to protect and save people; it's not all about fighting, blood, and special effects. Honestly people... is there any real good left in people?
  • Soundwave_17
    I hate to see Raimi & Maguire leave but honestly for every good movie Raimi makes he also makes a bad one. exp: "For the Love of the Game, The Gift, The Quick and the Dead, Don't get me wrong I love Evil Dead, Darkman, Spider-Man2. Also Tobey Maguire is 34 yrs. old, by the time Sony would've started shooting Maguire will be closer to middle-age than a College Student. I'm all for High School Spider-Man but I do not want to see another Origins story or a Dancing Peter Parker.
  • bray
    unlike most spidey fans im happy theyre doin a reboot, the actors were all wrong peter seemed like some emo guy and mj didnt look like a super model. maybe peter will be in highschool.
  • Justin H.
    I for one would like to think that staying in high school like Peter might have made it possible for you to spell and construct a coherent sentence.

    Apostrophes are for assholes, huh? Capitalization is for babies.
  • i agree, justin. except for the part about capitalization. i don't like to capitalize letters when i type. but i can still form coherent sentences.

    i don't know why, but i've always hated that damn shift key. i curse every time i have to use quotation marks, dollar signs, or question marks.
  • Chris K.
    Honestly, do many of you really think that Spider-Man 3 sucked?!? It was freaking awesome! Peter Parker's struggles with the alien symbiote was realistic and funny. The movie had some humor to it; hey, if I had the black suit, I would dance around every now and then because the that one kicks butt. Kirsten Dunst looked hotter just like in the first movie. Sandman used robbery to try and save his daughter's life which I can see that it's wrong to steal, but to help his daughter since there was no other honest money he could get was conflicted but it questioned you on if that's what you would do if push came to shove. Topher Grace didn't look like the original Eddie Brock from the 90's comics, but he did look like Eddie from "Ultimate Spider-Man" and was hilarious at times which is good. Yeah, Venom should have been in the movie longer, but he looked sweet and it didn't matter that much to me since I like Pete in the black suit much more because that's Spidey's suit, it wasn't meant to go to Eddie Brock originally. The New Goblin was a great villain, yeah not Hobgoblin, but Harry Osborn doesn't become Hobby in the comics, he just becomes a good Green Goblin which the 3rd movie played out in the end. The tag team fighting tag team in the conclusion was bad a**! The only thing I didn't like about Spider-Man 3 was that Pete didn't fight crime and swing around a lot in the new black suit. Last, I loved the black suit looking like the red and blue and with the silver webs; looked so much better than the classic red and blue.
  • i disagree with everything you just said.


    also, i'm pretty sure you are allowed to type "badass" on this website. you dont have to censor yourself.
  • mchops
    I'm calling it now - Raimi gets Sony back by going to Marvel and directing the greatest comic book movie of all time - The Avengers!
  • Giddi
    what a disappointment. i can't believe this. i loved all the spiderman movies. i don't see what anyone has against the third movie. it had too many villains but it was a great film. The spiderman films were loyal to the franchise and I loved all 3. Yes, the 2nd one was the best, but all 3 were awesome. I will definitely not watch any reboot. Damn!
  • simalex2000
    this is sort of a postmodern hell, where there's remakes of remakes of remakes. at some point, the act of remaking is going to become, in an andy warhol-like way, its own art form.
  • namredips
    At last.
    now i hope they scrap the reboot too.
    enough spiderman.
  • Honestly I would not be surprised if Sony purposely dropped this movie and claimed a reboot was needed due to the fact that Raimi is involved in Blizzard's World of Warcraft movie that could only generate big buzz for the video game franchise that is in direct competition for the MMORPG crown with pretty much all of Sony Entertainment's current MMORPG games that are available.

    Sony has been known to pull tricks to force the hand of competitors and has never had a chance to directly come at Blizzard in the past.
  • dvBeko
    Damn, anyone know when Marvel is getting the rights back?
    Then ill be happy to see a reboot, brought into the avengers im guessing
  • Seriously why reboot the series just leave it alone as a trilogy and put it to bed. There's no need for anymore in the series be at jouney back to high school or Spidey battling a new villain. All it will do is smell of a company trying to squeeze every last penny out of it even if it means completely ruining things.
  • papasanchez
    I commented on this last week saying that they should scrap the whole idea and start from scratch. I'm not right alot but this is great news as far as I'm concerned!

    Yeaaaaah, new re-boot!
  • HGH95
    Another fucking reboot! It's too soon for a reboot. Jesus. I just wish Sony let Rami make the movie he wanted to make, especially after how much they fucked with the third film. The only good thing I see out of this could be the possibility of Spiderman becoming part of the Avengers film.
  • PT
    You make gazillions of dollars for the studio and yet them suits can't understand the purposefulness of the creative team. Mind boggling. No respect or blatant lack of logic.

    Rebooting in the name of today's so yesterday. Integrity's a dead value.

    All I'll say is: Sam, now you can channel all that bitterness and hate toward the beating of a certain man named Ash, in the legendary series that is the... Evil Dead.
  • This news BLOWS..... It can't be!! WHY is Tobey Leaving???? Tobey is amazing as SPider-man? I don't want him to leave. Tobey Maguire did a Excellent job. KEEP TOBEY IN!!!! NO REBOOT.... The first two SPidey movies are a masterpiece.
  • joseph gordon-evitt as spiderman i don't care who directs just make it happen.
  • bigtones
    Now that Disney owns Marvel, I wouldn't be surprised if the House of Mouse uses its influence to turn this reboot into some High School Musical-esque teenage soap opera. They have some pretty big shoes to fill now that Raimi and Maguire are gone.
  • JKW3000
    So I get to watch a similar (if not same) origin story less than a decade after they gave me one.

    How does this, in any way, sound like a good idea? I mean, I love looking at Spidey as a teenager instead (it's what always made him popular and relevant), but really? Rebooting in less than a decade? It sounded like a terrible idea when it was pitched for Buffy the Vampire Slayer, it sounds terrible for this.

    Though the thought of a proper Venom storyline fills me with the tiniest of cautiously optimistic hopes...

    Man, The Dark Knight (while amazing) screwed up the genre. Now everybody either wants it to be a cash cow or they'll keep rebooting it until it is. Sigh.
  • dizzongster
    First off dude, they rebooted the hulk within a decade and the second one turned out much better than the first (though it wasnt amazing by any means). They may not do an origin story, and just run through it in the opening credits montage, then get right into him in high school fighting villians and dealing with all his teenage bullshit (which we didnt really get in Raimis movies).

    Second off, the Buffy movie was something like 20 or more years ago, so I wouldnt say they are trying to reboot it while it's fresh in peoples minds or anything =P
  • JKW3000
    Yeah, they rebooted the Hulk, and it still sucked. The fact that the first one was not that great probably helped, compared to, you know, having something of the Spider-Man 2 caliber in its legacy. And yeah, they could run straight through in an opening montage, but given their focus on Parker being a gritty high schooler, I highly doubt it.

    The Buffy movie was 20 years ago, but the Buffy TV series that, you know, is what fans swear by (not to mention why Joss Whedon has so many friggin' fangirls) ended less than a decade ago.

    And I stand by my "The Dark Knight is awesome but it ruined everything" statement. Gritty Spider-Man? That's almost as bad as emo Spider-Man.
  • Propadanda
    Dear God, please, please, PLEASE keep Raimi away from The Given Day, in the J-man's name I pray. Amen.
  • moviefan
    Crazy news today. I didnt see this happening. since its a reboot now. I do hope they pick a solid director and not get a ratner or someone like him. Secondly it would be interesting to see if they can do the mechnical webshooters this time around. Cast i dont know who i would go for with a young spidey again. But i do hope they get more humor in this go around and i totally say look at what The spectacular spider-man cartoon has done with the character. I would like new film to be like that.
  • Brian
    As much as we all figured this would happen...holy crap it happened! Quite the shocker after 3 movies. I don't agree with it as Raimi has the potential to make the 4th film a good one...and dammit no more Malkovich as the Vulture I was looking forward to that.
    As far as the reboot, him going back to high school...that's terrible. He was already in high school, and it was good!
    The problem with rebooting the series is that Spiderman as we know it is in our recent memory because well, the films are relatively new and fresh. I can't see a reboot now doing very good. All the spidey fans have grown with Peter in the movies, and come to terms with where his character is in life and now, kaput, start all over...and so soon. Just seems plain dumb!
    Sad sad news.
  • MonsterKilledThePilot
    Remember David Fincher's pitch? THAT would have been cool to see.
  • Rip
    Whoa, I am kinda shocked. I don't think they should do a "reboot", if that is the new term in Hollweird these days. They shold just continue on with a new cast, new stories, new villians. Spiderman 1 wasn't that long ago, and to go back to the beginning could be a disaster. Continue on, don't reference the past Spiderman films, but don't contradict them and ignore them, there was too much style and substance in them to disrespect a character icon like Spiderman. Maybe go with Carnage, and the real Venom, not some skinny kid from that 70's show. They never officially called him Venom, even though Eddie Brock was used. I KNOW that going back to high school with some hot young MTV kid as Peter Parker will go bad, and the franchise will be dead.
  • razor
    My god man i see this going only a few ways and they are all good well chances of success anyways

    1:James Cameron does the next one (please sir i beg you to lol)
    2:this will become part of the avenger continuity (please god i beg you :P)
    3:New Batman begins style reboot where they have more of a real life base than comic book type
    4:Sucky ass schumacher shit

    3 out of 4 is great and Columbia is not fox so i feel better about it being a reboot unfortunately i don't think JC is going to leave fox to do this movie so i think the second option is more likely
  • Good god another Franchise reboot... I mean come on, just attach another director to this but dear god try to get Tobey back. Good god they are going to make this like that short lived animated series on MTV...fail...
  • karlpilkington
    Awesome! Now Raimi can focus on Warcraft!! I bet that's why he left the movie.

    He's already done a great job with Spiderman, but it's been milked for all its worth. Time to move on to a new property and do something interesting with it.

    I loved Spiderman 1 and 2 but was NOT anxious to see 4.
  • I'm both sad and happy Spider-Man 4 is scrapped. I wanted to see Raimi get one more shot with Spider-Man 4, and I wanted him to get it right again. I remember seeing earlier that Sony had already confirmed a release date and I immediately thought "bad news." I have no interest in seeing a reboot. The horror fan in me just wants to see him do another Evil Dead.
  • Rick_Dickulous
    They don't fucking need to re-boot Spider-Man. If they wanna get a new cast with a new director and a new take on the franchise GO FOR IT! But please do not re-tell his origin story again, its not even that great of a origin story to begin with.
  • Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand bam.
    There's the end of the whole issue.

    I didn't think it'd reach this conclusion.
  • sonysucks
    Im expecting an origin story in the beginning credits and 14 villains in a two hour movie. The last one was bad because the studio was too invloved.... Maybe they will just salvage the musical and turn that into the next movie.
  • Brianimator
    This just in: Sony planning a reboot of planned reboot of Spiderman 4! Sources at the studio quoted as saying "We just felt we should take a fresh new pre-emptive re-imagined approach to the non-existent reboot we already aren't making, and now we aren't pre-making it even better than audiences could have not-imagined!"
  • Lux
    This is madness!!!!
  • jetpackman89
    THank GOD! I still think Tobey Mcguire was a terrible casting choices for spiderman. Now to give credit he isn't that bad in the first spiderman. It's when he started crying is when he began to bother me.
  • Amen brother....amen.
  • drytoad1
    I wanna know when they're going to reboot High School Musical..... or Hanna Montana the Movi.... oh forget it!
  • Can't resist one more comment...

    I guess 2012 really is the end of the world! Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk. ;)

    ...and Huffingtonpost is reporting the musical has been delayed until Fall. Oh the humanity!
  • drytoad1
    WHAT??? ............. sigh............. ANOTHER case of the suits destroying everything in their path.... Good grief! Keep yer hands off......... ( No more Bruce Campbell.......... sniff ) Just take a Spidey comic and film it... Jeepers, it can't be THAT tough. ( Really didn't like K.D. as M.J. )
  • thatguyrom
    Holy sheeet. I lost faith in the series after the last movie, but wow, I'm pretty surprised. I mean the movie being scrapped wouldn't surprise me all that much, but a reboot is pretty nuts.

    I guess this decade will be the decade of rebooting reboots. Damn, there goes the next Batman movie.
  • drytoad1
    Didn't you hear? They're rebooting Batman.... ( only kidding )
  • Erick
    Sorry, don't have time to read all the comments, but I have to wonder if "reboot" is the right word? Why can't comic book movies be treated like the books themselves and just have new people carry on without having to do a complete from-zero restart? I don't think we need to see the "bite" happen again any more than we need to see Krypton go up in smoke, again. We just need to see Peter Parker with the powers and the costume and he's off.
  • mobbdeep
    Too true. Treat each set of trilogies like they would with a new creative team on the comics. Hell, throw an "Amazing" or "Spectacular" on the title to differentiate them.

    Move onto new situations and villains instead of another origin. Build on what came before rather than repeat it.
  • drytoad1
    Agreed
  • Octoberist
    Why can't they just continue Spider-Man with new actors.

    By placing Parker back in high school, there's no progression what's so ever.
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