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Depending upon how closely you pay attention to producer credits, you may or may not know the name Ryan Kavanaugh. You’ve definitely seen it on a large number of films, thanks to the financing his company Relativity Media, LLC provides to many projects. Kavanaugh, only 34, won ‘producer of the year’ at the Hollywood Film Festival last month, and may become the new model of a Hollywood producer. With a focus on computer models of financial liabilities and returns, he wants to create a purely data-driven system for greenlighting movies.

Some of his ideas make him sound like a pure enemy of the movies I love, while others make so much sense I can’t believe they’re not already implemented at every studio. This approach worked for baseball, though the ‘Moneyball’ angle angered die-hard fans. Can it work for movies?

Portraits of Kavanaugh hit a few different places on the web over the past week; as I scanned them in series I was alternately intrigued and horrified. Esquire has a large profile, while Variety ran several articles honoring his work. (Like this and this.)

Variety paints one vision of Kavanaugh, as a forward-thinker who gets movies made and has found no small success. The trade points to his acquisition of Rogue Pictures at the beginning of this year, and the decision to expand Rogue as a brand via a web portal and clothing line. His quotes with respect to iamrogue.com certainly sound…interesting:

We want to bring consumers into the filmmaking process. We want to give them a voice on the set. And we want to let them know they can effectuate change, because at the end of the day we’re making movies for them.

My first thought, reading that, is: when a film like New Moon is the box-office killer of the season, do we really want just anyone with access to a web browser influencing the creative process? It’ll be like that episode of the Simpsons where Homer designs the worst car ever.

Cross-reference the Variety pieces with Esquire’s profile and things really become clear. Because that massive non-critical New Moon audience is the only one Kavanaugh wants. Nothing wrong with that, per se. He’s a producer. He’s supposed to want that audience. Wanting it at the expense of all else, however, is where things get sticky.

“I’m not in this for the art, you know? I don’t care about awards,” he tells Variety. “I want to make money. I want to own a business.” Again, that’s real producer talk. But not for every producer. You think that’s what Scott Rudin really feels? I don’t. So check this, when Kavanaugh contrasts the performance of two of his films, Paul Blart: Mall Cop and The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.

Do you know how many people saw The Assassination of Jesse James? You and seven other people. Paul Blart grossed nearly $200 million worldwide. I’ll take Paul Blart all day, every day.

That’s where my hackles go up. Not as an arch defender of Jesse James, though I am certainly that. More because in my own dream world producers are more like Scott Rudin: they work to find a middle ground between a difficult story and palatable movies that everyone will like. But that’s why Rudin is notable. Not everyone could have helped shepherd No Country For Old Men into becoming a film that everyone saw and talked about.

Speaking to Esquire, Kavanaugh trumpets his Moneyball data models that inform decisions about what to greenlight and what to pass, and when one movie should be given a cash infusion while another should be refused. If those models were applied to a film like Jesse James, we could get good stuff. Take a niche property, figure out how to cast it for popular appeal, and set the machine in motion to grind out a movie that might actually, ironically, have some art. Isn’t that what producers are meant to be doing, anyway? If Kavanaugh can quantify the alchemical, unpredictable spark that makes one thing work and another fail, he could make money with anything.

But that’s why alchemy was a fools errand. You can’t turn lead into gold, and you can’t feed a bunch of numbers into a spreadsheet and come up with a foolproof recipe for success with a left-field film.

So I chuckled as Kavanaugh was also in the news this week as he talked up the reboot of The Crow. Comments like “the script is great,” as he told io9, take on a slightly different meaning when you think about other things the producer has recently said. (And, let it be said, I don’t give a damn about The Crow; it’s just a convenient current reference point.) Combine his Crow talk with this comment to Esquire: “Everything has to run on the principle of profit. We’ll never let creative decisions rule our business decisions. If it doesn’t fit the model, it doesn’t get done.” The model here, as evidenced by his comments to io9, is Batman Begins. But can you set out to hit with that formula and actually do it? Unlikely, yes?

And yet there are those aspects of Kavanaugh’s business that sound so well-considered. He tells Esquire that Relativity turns more than 90% of the properties it buys into films, which is an amazing track record. But it’s only amazing when you consider it in light of most studios’ ‘buy now, develop later’ policy. It’s not that he’s got a particularly good idea in this case, only that he’s doing things the way they should be done.

All of this would just contribute to a curiosity piece if the consensus weren’t that Kavanaugh’s power, already considerable, is expanding. With only a few years of work under his belt he’s got many films under way right now, and in a cash-strapped town is helping out a great many more. If some of Rogue’s stuff actually hits, he’ll convert others to that ruthless bottom-line thinking.

  • shadow
    Thanks for giving a name to everything I find wrong with Hollywood ^^

    Seriously though, anyone who runs a film studio and says art has no place in it can go to hell.

    I hope he wakes up one day and realizes all the shit he has produced and regrets it.
  • mudywaters
    This is the kind of piece of shit producer we don't need in the movie business. I'm sure he'd take Twilight over The Assassination of Jesse James.
  • Reading about Kavanagh reminds me of those legal shows where the defenders of criminals grow a conscience and become prosecutors. Not that that's likely to happen here. One day Kavanagh will lose his "moneyball" skills and start producing a string of failures.
  • RussFischer
    As Esquire points out, he's not yet responsible for a great string of hits. So the whole little cult that seems to be growing around him is based on potential, not pure returns. But there is definitely a little cult; Variety's articles are positively fawning.
  • rogerbusby
    Anyone who uses the word effectuate is a certified asshat and must be disposed of immediately.
  • matthewwells
    Like I can't discredit everything he says, but this guys sounds truly TRULY evil. The business is desperate so their looking to him. He'll be the film business's answer to an anti-Christ.

    It scares me that he's only 34 because that means he probably has a lot of time to expand evil empire unless one of his high-class hookers accidentally chokes him to death.
  • matthewwells
    Ok if they want to use their little datasheet as a guideline - NOT A RULE - that would make some amount of sense. But I foresee a future where anyone working in the industry is forced to offer their first born to Microsoft Excel.
  • rogerbusby
    Is this guy really that different from any other major studio-head? They all want the talent and marketing that brings in big money. Scary as his comment about having consumers on set is, how different is that from rough cut screenings where people off the street fill out surveys and comment cards?
  • Bull
    I agree, he sounds like just another money-grubbing Hollywood producer. He has no "moneyball" secrets, just another rich kid looking to make some $$$ by pouring out garbage movies.
  • matthewwells
    you guys make a good point. hes got a big slate of crap on the way. some of it will probably make money some of it won't. i'm sure he'll continue to work but his popularity sounds like flavor-of-the-week. to actually continue making headlines, he'll probably have to wreck his lamborghini drunk and say something anti-semitic.
  • hartman27
    The dude's freaking Gordon Gecko.

    Kavanaugh, stay away from my movies. With people like you we'll have seven Brett RATners and no Wes Andersons.
  • The guy is loved by Hollywood because he brought in a lot of other peoples' money and once that money isn't returned with interest he's done.
  • clarencesomerset
    He's very good at what he does, from what I heard in the industry. Others like him have flamed out and lost millions, but this guy has had a solid string of hits to his credit and a good eye for commercial appeal. Not sure about his plans for Rogue, though. But as it is now, Universal is virtually dependent on him to finance their films.
  • He's got as many turds in there as he has hits, kind of average for most producers. Which makes this talk of "magic touch" a bit hard to swallow.
    Here are a few examples of his movies, taken from boxofficemojo.com:
    "Land of The Lost" cost $100m, made $49m.
    "The International" cost $50, made $25m.
    "All The King's Men" cost $55m, made $7m.

    If I was one of the people that lost $50 million on anything then I would be a little more humble. Just saying...
  • And in his defense, for all his talk of pure commercialism, his name is attached to some very talented directors (Tarsem, Steven Soderbergh) and some very good movies that were not pure toy commercials too (Zombieland, 9, Charlie Wilson's War, The Kingdom, The Bank Job, 21 and a bunch of others).
    So maybe it is better copy to sound like the anti-Christ and hide your creative side if you want to get featured in the trades....
  • jailbreakcollective
    really nicely written, russ.
  • jjjones
    Sounds like an idiot, a b movie producer who thinks he knows it all, like Brett Ratner saying final cut is for people who's films don't make any money, these guys are what is wrong with the business part of the film industry as if in thirty years anyone is going to be watching 'mall cop' unless its all turned into idocracy. The untalented always say awards are nothing, just because they will never win any, I love when these flash in the pans get put out with last years rubbish its been happening since the beginning of Hollywood with Lewis Selznick and it wont end anytime soon
  • CStrano
    Everytime you see a slew of fawning articles about anyone in Hollywood it usually means the person's publicist is working overtime because the shit is about to hit the fan. At some point the Kavanaugh House of Cards is going to come tumbling down.
  • Byron M. Collins
    I work on the creative side of the industry with my mantra being, "I don't talk to people that wear suits to work or ask about money." That being said, my partner deals with the "suits" and "the money"... he also happens to be a Michael Bay fan. He has never once questioned my notes or opinions on any script that has come through the door, but he also knows when to say "I wish I could, but I can't". The industry, as a whole, will always be a catch22, with money being reliant on talent and agencies requiring "pay or play" deals to lock talent for the most part. So, when I take time out from ranting about the Neo-Independant FIlm Movement that we are undoubtedly about the witness, I catch small glimpses of just how difficult it is to find financing these days. You bend backwards, you make promises you don't want to make, and usually end up risking more than you can even afford to lose, but EVERY one of us does it for the same reason... to get the movie made. It's a faulty system, but it's a system like any other and like any system, you do have to learn how the pieces work. To make movie number one, you lie, cheat, steal, max credit cards, sell blood.... whatever to make it happen, but once your movie finally gets out the door, it has to sell otherwise movie number two never comes along. When casting, do I recite every Francis Ford Copolla quote known to man? Yes, but I'm reminded by the Bay fan that Brando is King, Pacino had a Tony, and Caan was more likely to be ordering Matzoh balls than meatballs. That turned out pretty well for him. My point here is this, and I apologize... my mind wanders, but Ryan Kavanaugh, the man who will never green-light a movie that won't make money gave George A. Romero, Steven Zallian, Daniel Day Lewis, Rob Marshall, Mike Nichols, David O. Russell and Jim Sheridan jobs. Sure, he will force people into compromises like forcing Johnny Depp into a director's lap before Bruce Campbell, but that comes with all the stipulations that are involved in subscribing such a huge investment for film. It wouldn't be his choice at all really, he has to hit certain marks in order to be able to greenlight a film and that's how all film funds or studios work, so I can't believe that he just so happened to stumble on these projects with these talented and amazing directors and/or actors by chance. I think he, like everyone else in the film business, joined the game because he LOVED it atone point and along the way, presumably during the massive chunks of downtime we come across as independants, he realized that if he wanted to literally work in this town, he had to make sacrifices. Once they were made, he brought in the people he had admired as a child. As someone else said, talking about these kinds of "moneyball" systems is a sure-fire way to get in the trades, which he'll need to market the films. I don't mind someone smacking my hand if I was reaching for the stove, and so I have to hope that he says what he says to appease investors, but then tries to find those interesting filmmakers to give the money to while still considering his responsibility over that money. In the end of the day, even Harvey had Dimension Films and my partner, the one who loves Michael Bay, also loves Ammores Perros and Sin Nombre. Good films will always stand out because they make us feel and throwing money onto a screen that incite that kind of emotion... or maybe this is just my way of hoping this industry isn't going to sink any lower than Bad Boys 3... but stories are never as much fun if you already know the endings, so we will have just have to wait it out. Till then, I'll return to "Easy Riders, Raging Bulls" and hope people remember why they got started in this business. I leave you with this, "pigs get fat... hogs get slaughtered." Never lose the vision.
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