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Some of the weirdest and most interesting news lately has been about action in the edit bay. We saw that a couple of world-class craftsmen had been brought in to rework The Wolfman, for one. Now there are tales of tweaks that run both ends of the crazy spectrum. When we can run a news item that puts Brett Ratner and Peter Jackson in the same headline you know the world has gone topsy-turvy, but at least they’re not working together.

First up, THR reports that Ratner has been hired to re-edit Kites, “a love story shot in Las Vegas, Mumbai, New Mexico and Los Angeles.” The film will be released in English and Hindi; the two versions won’t be dubbed, as they were shot simultaneously. Ratner is cutting up the English version, and the obvious joke is that all storytelling might as well be in Hindi to him. What’s the point of this story? To have a laugh, I suppose, as I can’t come up with any reason that this is news otherwise. Certainly got my attention for a second. Here’s a longer synopsis from IMDB, so read it with all the suspicion something sourced from IMDB deserves:

In the harsh terrain of the Mexican desert, a mortally wounded man is left for dead in the heat of the desert sun. This is J. Once a street smart, carefree young guy. Now, a wanted man. As death looms, the only thing that keeps him alive is the quest to find the love of his life, Natasha. A woman betrothed to another man, but surely destined for J. A woman who comes into his life like a bolt of lightning and changes it forever.

Things get a little more interesting over in Peter Jackson’s side of the spectrum. A small Reuters report the other day noted that Jackson was adding “more violence and suffering” (those are his words) to The Lovely Bones, after test audiences were unsatisfied with the fate of one character.

The test screening process is a weird part of the filmmaking system, but making edits after screenings can be crucial. If your film just isn’t working in front of an audience, only sheer hubris would prevent you from tweaking. But this is a strange thing to do, even for a filmmaker who is known for his scenes of violence.

But it’s really not that big a deal when you read the actual report — I won’t post the details here to avoid spoilers for those who are shy, but read the whole Reuters report to find what was added. It’s not any sort of drastic change, and doesn’t sound like the sort of thing that would raise eyebrows when seen in the film. (It’s Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom level stuff, and not even on par with that film’s serious violence.) My curiosity about the film remains unsated, but this is hardly a prediction of gloom; just a minor tweak instead.

  • Same question as I had with Brendon's neat article:

    Can anyone cite last minute editorial decisions that have saved movies? Or editors being brought on to salvage a wreck?

    I have three:
    - Stuart Baird ("Superman the Movie") fixing "M:I-2" and "Tomb Raider" is exchange for a directing gig.
    - The original draft of "Annie Hall" where Woody let it be a 2.5 hour ramble-a-thon.
    - Michael Cimino paying off a projectionist to destroy a two-hour cut of "Deer Hunter" at a test screening, to ensure higher scores for his three-hour cut.

    Any other ideas? Stories?
  • Slatters
    I'm not sure I would call Tomb Raider "fixed", by any means.
  • RussFischer
    Terrence Malick and The Thin Red Line comes to mind.

    But really, a lot more movies are saved at the last minute than you'd expect. Editing is a weird creative alchemy, and one little decision can make or break a movie. It's such a part of the process that you just never hear much about it.
  • I completely agree - the Murchs, the Schoonmakers, the Leans, - Eisenstein and Mamet are right to say movies are nothing but thinking about the order of images. But, then again, I'd blame "unrated" editions and "extended cuts" for belittling the art of the chop as nothing more than controlling a bonus.

    But then again, I feel no difference between the 3 and 4 hour cuts of "Return of the King," because I feel numb anyways.

    Bonus example - the multiple versions of "Blade Runner," are good case studies in what a bit of editing can do.
  • MonsterKilledThePilot
    What's with all of the editing news? Next week we'll be hearing about all kinds of problems with foley. Am I right? *tap* * tap* Is this thing on?
  • RussFischer
    Also, I deliberately picked images of Ratner and Jackson that look alike, and no comments on that yet? *sniff*
  • ...because they have facial hair and have brown hair?

    *I meant that playfully, sounded rude after reading it.
  • joker93
    Huh, I'm pretty sure I know what character is referred to in the article. And having read the book, I could totally understand why the audiences would want him to suffer. If that's the only thing PJ is going to change, then I'm still greatly excited for the movie... don't think it's the matter to worry about.
  • I don't want to spoil anything. but i read he book years ago. and i assume the scene people were unsatisfied with was (SPOILER ALERT) the death of the murderer. In the book he dies by just waiting for a bus or something under a roof. and an icicle falls on his head. for someone who doesn't read between the lines, you feel that crime doesn't pay and it's disappointing to see such a horrible villain end up living his life and having such a painless death. I think what peter means by "more violence and suffering" is that he'll have the icicle hit a non instantaneous death part of his body. so that the audience gets their fancy tingles over watching a horrible person suffer.

    this is just me predicting of course.
  • Zora
    Kites is big news because the star, Hrithik Roshan is big news in Bollywood, India, and the worldwide market for Bollywood movies. He hasn't starred in a major film since the blockbuster Dhoom 2 (in which he was sizzling hot, says this foreign fan) and his next film is anxiously awaited by his legions of fans.

    It's not just that he's pretty; he can act and he can dance.
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