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Note: The following contains potential spoilers for third season of Mad Men. We’ve hidden them in invisotext so you can easily avoid them if desired.

Here at /Film and on the /Filmcast, we deal with the issue of spoilers on a daily basis. We are true fans of the moviegoing experience, and although we cover news about movies that won’t come out for months or years, we try not to reveal a movie’s plot details if we think they could potentially spoil the joys of watching that film. If we do reveal such details, we scrupulously attempt to ensure that these are marked clearly (aurally or textually) with a spoiler warning. [In general, when I refer to spoilers, I'm referring to plot elements that occur more than 1/3rd of the way through the film, although there are certainly many exceptions to this.]

I was scanning through my Twitter feed this morning when I saw a link to an article at Televisionary entitled “Spoil-Sport: Why Talking About An Episode That’s Already Aired Isn’t a Spoiler.” The context for the piece: Earlier, Televisionary author Jace Lacob had published a spoiler-heavy piece over at the Daily Beast, with the title “Mad Men Postmortem.” The piece featured a lengthy interview with series creator Matt Weiner, but its opening, bolded paragraph led off with the following: Dead presidents, divorce, and new digs.” I have not seen more than one episode of Mad Men, but I have been told that these words (arguably) reveal key plot points for the ending of Season 3. And obviously, the interview itself discusses major spoiler-ific plot points in detail [Side note: Hunter's Mad Men season three wrap-up discusses this interview and other topics in-depth].

One of the commenters cried foul:

Hey Jace Lacob, have you ever heard of alerting your readers with “Spoiler Alert”?!?!?!
Thanks, I’m only on the 6th episode of this season, now I guess I don’t need to watch anymore?
Really, is it asking too much for you to say “Spoiler Alert” at the head of your article?

In Lacob’s post responding to this commenter, Lacob argued that while he also hated being spoiled, it is unreasonable to expect that an article not contain spoilers if it’s about a TV episode that’s already aired. According to Lacob:

I firmly believe that, once an episode has aired across the country, all bets are off. It’s a free-for-all, as far as I am concerned. Writers, critics, bloggers, whoever, should be free to discuss the episode’s intricacies and plot developments with abandon. There’s no need to label a post, an interview, or anything as a “spoiler” because it’s not spoiling anything. The details about the latest episode’s plots, reality series eliminations, character deaths, etc. are out there in the public consciousness. Consider them public domain, if you will. And the onus to avoid them isn’t on the part of the writer but on the reader.

If by some bizarre occurrence (say, I was trapped on a Martian base being chased by a water-based homicidal creature), I was to miss an episode of Doctor Who or Lost, I would firmly expect to have plot points revealed in every single piece written about Doctor Who or Lost the following day. The burden, therefore, is on me to avoid all sites, forums, blogs, and print publications that might make mention of plot developments of which I am unaware. Likewise, BBC One will air Doctor Who: The Waters of Mars a month before BBC America does here in the States. If I want to avoid knowing just what happens, I’m going to avoid visiting any British publications and websites for several days after the special airs. I wouldn’t expect those journalists to label their stories with a “spoiler” warning and I don’t believe that they should.

I think I may agree with Lacob’s general reasoning for this particular article: Anyone that clicks on a “Mad Men Postmortem” the day after the season finale has aired (even if they aren’t aware that the season finale has just aired) is probably asking for trouble. But in general, I find this argument pretty objectionable. Where I get off this train of argument is Lacob’s unrelenting insistence that a) it is completely the reader’s responsibility to keep track of when shows air even if they live in different countries/territories, and if they don’t then they are screwing themselves, and b) Critics should not and do not have any responsibility to alert readers of what plot details they are revealing, so long as they are writing after the show has aired.

As a thought exercise, think of how people would respond if a film critic said the equivalent: “If a movie’s already come out, then I’m allowed to give away spoilers with reckless abandon!” They’d be figuratively pilloried in the internet square. TV is obviously a different animal; for broadcast television, people have access to these shows for free, and so there is a greater possibility that you would have been able to experience a program when it originally aired. Cable television is the same way, to a large degree. It’s a lot easier to expect that your readers sat in front of the tube for one of their favorite shows’ finales, than it is to expect your readers to have gone out and forked over $12 for a 2-hour movie the previous weekend.

But let’s talk about TV specifically. The world of broadcast and cable television is rapidly moving away from the idea of fixed schedules for television shows. Very few of my friends and colleagues watch shows on TV when the air, and if they do, they also use things like DVD, DVR, and Hulu to supplement the episodes they don’t see. On the one hand, I question how realistic and reasonable it is to expect people to know exactly where a show is in its timeline. If you’re catching up with a show on DVD/DVR/Hulu, it’s entirely possible that you will have no idea what episodes have recently aired. And while you would be a good, well-behaved TV watcher if you kept informed, it’s a lot easier for me to take five seconds to write a one-sentence spoiler warning than for you to find out where exactly a show is in its release schedule.

Put aside the idea of spoiler warnings for a moment. I’ve seen many TV writers (and some film writers, including us occasionally) put critical plot details in the title, or in the case of Lacob’s article, in the opening paragraph/lede. If I like reading a blog like Televisionary, it’s hard for me avoid plot details if they call out to me from the title of a post. This practice strikes me as gratuitous and unnecessary. As online writers, we should be making it easier for people to enjoy entertainment, not harder, which is what happens when we make spoilers really difficult to avoid. I put this point to Jace and he responded: “That’s an editorial decision, not the writer’s. Post-finale interviews by nature discuss the finale as well as previous eps…” I understand if it’s beyond your control how your post is titled and what the abstract is, but everything I’m saying should apply to content creators and their editors: Why not do the humane thing and put the plot details where they might not be so conspicuous? Your title can still be catchy without incorporating crucial plot details.

In fact, that’s perhaps my biggest objection to Lacob’s piece: My visceral reaction that his article seems to be advocating for some sort of laziness on the part of writers. Really, how difficult is it to just throw up a sentence at the beginning of the post explaining what exactly you’ll cover/spoil? Does it really break up the flow of the article? Does it really disrupt, artistically, what you are trying to do with your writing? You probably saw that I put a quick one-sentence spoiler warning at the top of this post. If you’ve made it this far, you might agree that it was no skin off my back or yours, but it might have saved a few readers from getting spoiled.

That wasn’t so hard, was it?

Discuss: What do you think of spoilers, especially for TV shows? Do you find them easy/difficult to avoid when you’re online? And what obligations, if any, do online writers have to prevent readers from getting spoiled?

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  • snickny
    AHHHHHHH! So I just stopped by TV guide and in the title of a news story on the main page they mention a death that happened or will happen on a show I am way behind on. I am so annoyed.
  • MrCavanagh
    Some of this could be looked at from the stance that most writers cringe at having to add a line about spoiler warnings. Especially when the title of the article clearly indicates that key elements of what occurred within the season finale will be covered. Shouldn't the reader be in some way responsible for what they choose to click on? Or do we need to bring back blinking html tags just to make sure their hands are firmly held?

    I don't know why I'm defending it in this way, because any writer worth his or her salt should be more than capable of writing up an article that focuses on the content and subtext of a film or TV episode without getting into blatant specifics that could ruin the experience for others.
  • I just read the Linda Holmes response. Whatta Jerk. I think as reviewers we have the utmost responsibility to protect a piece of media regardless of when it has aired. I find it sad that no one will ever get to see the movie Soylent Green, and be surprised by the ending. We GLEEFULLY ruin films like that as if we're a part of some kind of club.

    It's something we deal with a lot on our show, even talking to lawyers about it. We discuss movies that might be as much as 50 years old, and still have to handle them as if they were just released. We WANT people to go out and watch them again (or watch them for the first time), and we work extremely hard at balancing our passion for the media with ruining potential plot points.
    The idea that putting "Potential Spoilers" at the top of a review is "too hard" is insultingly ridiculous. I mean that. They're insulting me as a fan by not giving me the respect of a warning.

    One last thing before I jump off this soap box. One of the main tenants of "commentary and critique" (the legal gray area that allows us the ability to discuss and show copyrighted materials) is to not betray the art you are commenting on or critiquing. For example, if I give up the ending of 'The Crying Game' I am using THEIR art to elevate MY show, supplanting the need to actually watch the film for my own ratings.

    This laziness betrays the art, betrays the audience, and erodes the very legal foundation we use to freely discuss media.
  • Cartographer
    This reminds me of the Beijing Olympics, when people had fits because they woke up and found out results of things that had happened eight hours earlier, but wouldn't be shown for another twelve. The internet is an instantaneous medium, and as soon as something occurs, the internet talks about it. Be it a sports score, a news story or a plot point in a television program or motion picture. The internet will not slow down to shield the unaware. If you're not engaged in a show in real-time, I'm afraid it's entirely up to you to try to keep from being spoiled. Avoid TV blogs, newspapers, Twitter, whatever you feel you have to. But it seems silly to blame a writer for commenting on something that is, for all intents and purposes, common knowledge.

    Basically, I agree with Lacob. There should be some personal responsibility on the part of the viewer, as well as the writer. David's article seems to be placing more requirements on the writer, and few on the reader. I think the reader, by choosing to not watch when something is "supposed" to be watched, actually should be held more accountable to not spoil things for themselves.
  • Sports and TV shows are vastly different though. Sports is almost always real time. Who DVRs a game? Unless it is something obscure? I know that sometimes people might DELAY a sports event, like pausing to go to the bathroom or to cook some food, but by and large, people watch sports when they are actually on. The Olympics, well, that is different, but ESPN and many North American websites did NOT spoil stuff if you didn't dig for it.

    However, with TV, timeshifting is rampant. I know I rarely watch Mad Men on time, yet I avoid spoilers. That is largely because people usually understand if they tweet or status update about a tv show, they say something broad. "What a fantastic season finale for Mad Men. They keep getting better!". That gets the point across. It was a great finale. And doesn't spoil anything. If someone responds, usually that is when spoilers start to get thrown around, but typically if you aren't the one responding you don't have to see those.

    If someone tweeted about just getting out of a movie and spoiling something, it would be pretty sucky.

    Again, sports and TV are different. Sports are rarely timeshifted enough that you will get spoiled by twitter (why are you on twitter while watching the game anyways if you are behind? I usually don't look at my phone at all if I am a few minutes behind on the end of a game). Tv, it is just different.

  • Cartographer
    I know quite a few people who timeshift sports, but that's not really the point. Sports and TV shows share more than you give them credit for. Most sports fans won't watch a game if the final score gets spoiled for them, but some enjoy the actual competition, from pillar to post, whether or not they know how it turns out.

    So, is Mad Men, or any other show, worth watching if you know what happens in the last episode of the season? If knowing what happens, or having some hint of what happens, ruins the entire season for you, then I don't know if I could call you a real fan of that show. The acting, set design, direction and the way the story unfolds are somehow cheapened because you may have learned a point on the larger narrative?

    I had "The Usual Suspects" spoiled for me by Kevin Spacey, but I still enjoyed that movie. Once you've seen a movie or TV show, it's spoiled. But I know I can enjoy them on repeated viewings. The discussion of film and TV, by thoughtful writers, is too interesting to be shackled by the broadening definition of "spoiler". If they feel they need to put a spoiler warning on their work, they should. But we're all getting quite worked up over very little here.
  • talmandi
    The shock of being spoiled by reading "Mad Men Postmortem" is akin to going to ESPN.com and having the World Series outcome "spoiled." The name of the article was its own spoiler warning.

  • David states clearly that he agrees about this, in this particular case. It's the general attitude he is objecting to.

    "I think I may agree with Lacob’s general reasoning for this particular article: Anyone that clicks on a “Mad Men Postmortem” the day after the season finale has aired (even if they aren’t aware that the season finale has just aired) is probably asking for trouble. But in general, I find this argument pretty objectionable."
  • Angelo
    I appreciate that when I listen to the slashfilmcast, you go to great efforts to prevent your listeners from having anything being spoiled. I know from experience that having something spoiled changes the way a show is perceived. My example: An article I read about a CSI episode spoiled the identity of the last Cylon without warning. That completely changed the last season of BSG for me. Was is my fault for being late to the party? Maybe. However, I didn't think that I would have BSG plot points ruined by an article about CSI.
    All this to say that I completely agree with you David.
  • As a writer, you should be good enough to relate something without having to use another film/tv show as an example, IMO.

    Now, about that PARTICULAR situation, I'm sorry to hear that. BSG is fantastic.
  • jebestation
    Your guys respect for spoilers on the site and the podcast is fucking awesome! There are a ton of places where the internet snark-royalty launch into ending discussion without warning while permanently attached to their unrelenting media IV-drip, and they're only really writing for the thin slice of America that is exactly like them, bored shitless and pouncing on every new piece of fiction like some starving desert-beast the second it comes out.

    Alerting us to spoilers tells me you actually care about people enjoying their movies and shows and spending their entertainment time wisely, you're not just in a race to pile on. Oh yeah, and putting a spoiler in the TITLE? Thats like trying to reach out and urinate on everyone that is even glancing at their site or checking their RSS feed. This isn't the fucking final episode of MASH we're talking about, people have DVRs and jobs and dive bars and intimidating netflix queues (and this is a show on AMC right? not exactly getting piped to every household in America as part of our civil rights). Of course, writers can do what they want to, there are obviously people that would prefer an outline (in Comic Sans font, no less) handed out preparing you to be cynical about every upcoming plot development, but I prefer not to be urinated on.
  • I agree with Lacob for the most part. Nobody needs to get pissed at him for an article entitled "Mad Men Postmortem." What I think is a good general rule -- after an episode has aired, you can spoil it in the article but not the headline. Pretty simple.
  • iec
    The same thing occurs on online forums. People want to be around and discuss the shows they love, and read about them, ESPECIALLY if they can't watch them and keep up with them. It's proper etiquette to not ruin the whole experience for them. Spoiler warnings are easy. People that argue against them are just having fun being stubborn assholes.
  • Absolutely agreed, David. As a Norwegian I either have to wait for a channel here to pick something up, wait for the DVD, or pirate it. This makes it really annoying when people are intent on blasting out spoilers for stuff I simply do not have access to. The last time I checked, the Internet was pretty international.

    Oh, speaking of this, don't you just love it when people throw spoilers on twitter? Not only do you not expect it because they didn't warn you, but when you're on twitter, you aren't at a film or TV site, so you haven't clicked on anything that might make you cautious even.
  • Guest
    contains spoilers. it's two words. how hard can that be?
  • freemachine
    Hey Dave, who put the role of nickels in your machine? Seriously though, my gripe concerns time zones. I have every cable channel known to man, but for some reason Showtime, unlike HBO, only broadcasts in Pacific time where I live (duh, on the Pacific). However, HBO gives me the option to watch shows/finales three hours earlier with their Eastern feed. So I"m screwed when it comes to discussing the Dexter finale because people have already seen it and I have to ignore the internet for three hours lest I come across a spoiler. Ugh!
  • You raise a good issue that a lot of people have been experiencing. The dangers of being on Twitter and other sites while you aren't caught up is a whole different article, methinks.

    Also, I don't want to speak for him, but if I had to guess, I'd say that Jace's response might be something along the lines of "With technology comes consequences...."

    http://twitter.com/televisionary/status/5594075892
  • freemachine
    But still, a warning is a courtesy to others, like the shake of a rattler's tail. Some of us are owed at least that much. Please no spoilers in the title of the thread, like, "Why did X have to die..." n00b!
  • Jake Fritz
    Without guidelines of what constitutes as a spoiler, the decision to include spoilers will be a personal one. Are there any unformal guidlines laid out that dictate exactly what constitutes as a spoiler and how they should be addressed? I have come across people who have yet to watch certain movies and get upset when I say things such as *SPOILER ALERT* "Bruce Willis was dead the entire time," or "Soylent Green is people... PEOPLE!" While those are probably a little overexagerative, it is true that some people take longer to watch programs than others. How long do we give these people before we talk openly? While it is harsh, I tend to agree with Lacob even though you bring up a good point about how it is not difficult and does not ruin the flow of one's story to simply put a tag at the top of the article explaining that there will be spoilers. Until a group of net writers gets together and puts together the guide to writing about spoilers, I say let the debates continue.
  • There is no guideline as such. You can't say "as long as it's in the first third of a film" or "as long as the show has been off the air for 5 years".

    The legal definitions of commentary and critique are purposely vague, as each instance SHOULD be unique unto itself. Generally they're written along the lines of not "betraying an art form through commentary on that art form" and not supplanting a piece of media for personal gain.

    If there's any concern that one's critique could ruin a piece of media, the reviewer has an obligation to provide some warning to the consumer.

    Plus I agree with David's sentiment, how hard is it to post or say two words: "Potential Spoilers".
  • No one is arguing against openly discussing plot details of movies/tv shows. on the /Film podcast, we have a specific section of the show where we delve into spoilers (not very many other movie podcasts do this, to my knowledge). But what I AM saying is: if it's possible to indicate that there are spoilers in an article, why not take a few seconds to do so?
  • ericdpalmer
    you make a great point Dave but I don't think the answer is that simple...

    The primary issue is that a spoiler can only be defined by the reader/listener that receives that piece of information in the moment they access it.

    For example, reading the first line from Jace's article I would argue (having watched the first 2 seasons of Mad Men) that it would only be a spoiler if you didn't know the 1960's had existed. The despite the fictional characters, the show is firmly based in this universe and not an alternate reality; yet somehow that commenter felt it had ruined their chance at enjoying the rest of the season? How can Jace be responsible for someone that didn't pay attention in civics class?

    My point is that while posting a spoiler warning is a solid move to defend against commenter backlash, there is no comprehensive way to avoid spoilers without completely removing your ability to provide context for the emotional and physical reactions you had to the medium in question.

    So in theory, isn't the only true way for a consumer to protect themselves from having something spoiled is to carefully choose their source(s) of information and be prepared for the randomness of life (and the internet) to ruin something for them at some point?
  • I agree with your essential point. What DOES constitute a spoiler? Is it a spoiler to say that Hitler does not DIE in Valkyrie? That they did not succeed? How can I, as a writer, simply avoid mentioning everything in order to not offend anyone?

    It is this fluidity that causes so many head aches.

    Two things: as a writer, you know what you WERE surprised about in a film or tv show. That, obviously, is a sign it is a spoiler. Label it as such. But there is a ton of gray area as well.

    Also, as a writer, have a spoiler free synopsis of an episode and then delve into the subject with spoilers abound. You should be able to usually say kind or hard or mixed things about a tv/film without spoiling a bunch of the content. And, for the love of all things sacred, keep it out of the title!

    Contains Spoilers if you haven't seen "Zombieland"

    In this film, there is a great cameo by Bill Murray, and if you kept away from that spoiler, it is a great reveal. I had no clue they had a cameo in the film at all, and never saw anything about Bill Murray thankfully. And so, when the scene finally came, I still had my doubts it even WOULD be Murray, and then when it was, I was giddy. If I had even known there was an unspecified cameo, I wouldn't have been shocked. So, I am thankful that people left that out of what they said about the film. Then, a few days ago, I saw a tweet about Zombieland having a cameo. Thank god I already saw the film.
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