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Since no one on the Internet is discoursing on the season three finale of Mad Men, the show’s creator, Matthew Weiner, has decided to do just that in a new interview. After the jump, we’ll dive into Weiner’s candid explanations for the massive changes that went down last Sunday and how they may or may not bleed into season four. We also intertwine our thoughts on the finale and our opinion of the entire season.

Before we get into that, the trades report that Weiner’s directorial movie debut, You Are Here, has been delayed until 2011. The primary cast for the romantic comedy, which includes Jennifer Aniston, Zach Galifiankis, and Bradley Cooper, is said to still be aboard the project. Though no further details are given on a time frame, Mad Men’s fourth season is cited as the reason for the production’s delay. Weiner also has a very-active film deal set up at Lionsgate.

But what of Sunday? Make no mistake, Mad Men is a great series, but we did find the finale, while exciting and epic, to underscore a problem observed throughout this season: Weiner’s ambitious decision to explore Don Draper’s adulterous domestic life and his need to load up on peripheral characters outside of Sterling Cooper has dulled our connection to the actual Mad Men. It’s not that they’re exceedingly selfish bastards—we’re cool with that—but some of them now border on office dressing. Blasphemy you say? “Shut the Door, Have a Seat,” and let us know your opinions in the comments. Spoilers below and my comparison of Mad Men to The Office

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The Drapers and Henry Francis: In the only post-finale chat he’s conducted thus far, Matthew Weiner shared with Jace Lacob at The Daily Beast that the marriage between Don Draper aka Dick Whitman and Betty Draper aka Betts aka “Whore” is toast in his eyes. Sure, this may seem like a given following Betty’s “I’m off to Reno” divorce scene in Sunday’s ep, but as critic Alan Sepinwall pointed out before Weiner’s interview: the planned divorce does not cancel out a reconciliation down the road or sooner. Moreover, Weiner’s affinity for the actress who plays Betty, January Jones, is often reiterated in the press. One has to wonder the extent to which Jones’s involvement will be reduced next season per the creative decision; also, may so much focus and emphasis on Jones’s character this season (resulting in countless mag covers) partially be due to the fading exposure of Betty in future seasons? Just an idea. Well, regarding the marriage itself, Weiner doesn’t hesitate to clarify

It’s so unambiguous to me that this marriage is over, but the audience seems to cling to the idea that they should be together because we want to believe in those things. The marriage was not good. It was built on a lie and the lie was exposed. …I do believe when he says his mother was a 22-year-old prostitute that Betty is looking at something that is very far from what she had planned for herself…

One character that has really boggled viewers, especially in the penultimate JFK-and-Oswald-got-popped episode, “The Grown-Ups,” is Henry Francis, Betty’s politically connected, silver-fox pursuer. What’s drawn the most questions about this accelerated, secretive relationship is at what point, if ever, the two characters became certain enough and intimate enough to get married. Until now, their relations are implied to have grown fonder through letters. And, even stranger, when did Betty become so assured by this guy’s loyalty as to consider his foreboding advice not to ask for any alimony from Don? What?!

In the interview, Weiner doesn’t discuss Francis’s motives or feelings—there is a simmering sense of desperation to him, no?—but he does add that, “it’s almost more flattering to have a man be that attached to you who doesn’t know you. I think [Betty's] very susceptible to that.” The key word to me: susceptible. With her biological clock ticking and model looks sliding, not to mention three kids (well, one kid, the other two she probably considers “things”), Betty’s vulnerability is obvious. Without alimony from Don, it’s a tightrope strut to the perfect life she has always desired; and like the American Dream, it may or may not exist. When Don tells her that, “I hope you get what you’ve always wanted,” it’s a genuine sentiment but still double-edged with real world truths.

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New Era, New “Company”: As the finale’s title hinted, the ep was a game-changing event consisting of three simultaneous and sharp separations: the looming divorce of Betty and Don; the overly submissive Lane Pryce from his ridiculous, flabbergasted British higher-ups; and the forever awesome move of Roger Sterling, Bertram Cooper, Draper, Peggy Olson, Pete Campbell, and Harry Crane from Sterling Cooper over to–tada!—Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce. Oh, and of course Sterling placed a “discreet” phone call to Joan Holloway, who arrived shortly thereafter on the scene in a pair of pants. Without so much as a prolonged blink, Joan dished instructions out like a hyperbolic ’60s comic book version of herself. (More on the surreal tone of this later.)

In case any ’80s babies forgot, divorces tend to leave bright-eyed casualties strewn alongside the warpath. Betty and Don’s divorce came as a tearful shock to the ever-brooding, lispy and mature, Sally Draper, and the ever-clueless Bobby Draper (”…cufflinks,” really dude?). And in in a finer example of the occasionally heavy-handed and impersonal symmetry that Weiner is obsessed with, the formation of Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce left employees like the do-gooder Ken Cosgrove and huffy Paul Kinsey in the dust of a traditional office. Will those characters be included next season? The same can be asked of the completely fired, M.I.A. and A.W.O.L. Salvatore Romano. Weiner confesses…

I am going to say something that I don’t always say: I don’t know.

Should They Stay or Should They Go: But the more pertinent observation from a viewers’ standpoint is: I don’t know if I care. With the exception of Romano, whose arc is culturally relevant to times past and current, season three failed to develop Kinsey (he’s an entitled, scruffy beatnik, okay…and?), and Ken Cosgrove arguably suffered the most. He was basically an office shadow that beamed with signature hair gel and a perma-grin all season.

Even with Cosgrove’s promotion over Pete Campbell, as unveiled by a friendly but smug Pryce, not to mention his infamy as the guy who introduced New York City (and a foot) to John Deere, three seasons later, who the hell is Cosgrove? Is he still beaming from having a piece published in The Atlantic Monthly? Does he still write? No idea. You? The tinge of betrayal and sympathy and shock that should have spined out in the “Sterling Cooper’s been robbed!” scene, merely imploded with: “Well, these characters are surprisingly kind of disposable.” At this point, we know what makes Sally Draper tick arguably as much as these guys. Would more fans miss the hypothetical absence of Sally next season than both Kinsey and Cosgrove? And if so, is that a sign of so many peripheral characters weighing down on the premise and setting that hooked everyone in the first place?

Office Life: In a way, it makes sense that Weiner, after venturing so far away from the day-to-day of Sterling Cooper, would literally rein its key players into a smaller, far more personal working environment at season’s end. The immediacy of this decision leaves season four opens to the fresh possibilities and character insights that occurred when Michael Scott started The Michael Scott Paper Company on The Office. Recall that Michael also recruited his best, semi-disgruntled employees: exchange Pam for Peggy and Ryan for Pete (even down to Pete likely ending up on his ass if he chose to leave the company). I get that sense that Weiner may have been keeping his distance in terms of growing these relationships because, like so many real offices, the environment and emphasis on real goals had grown stagnant.

But continuing with this comparison, even though Kevin and Creed play less active and scripted roles in The Office, many fans would go apeshit if they permanently left the show (given, more seasons have passed, but still). Furthermore: Would it not have been interesting if Weiner had laid off the lays and given Hollis the Black Elevator Operator (goodbye!) a minor yet interesting subplot not unlike Darryl the Black Warehouse Foreman on The Office?

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At Your Service: Viewers who feigned serious concern over the topic of Joan Holloway’s non-return to the show late in the season were becoming annoying. In almost flamboyant fashion, Weiner reintroduced Holloway in the finale to the life and career she knows better than anyone. And as the realities of Roger Sterling’s Summer-Winter marriage to Jane become apparent—she drunkenly blacks out more than girls at Duke University—Joan has once again become an affair-prospect for Roger. It’s notable that the last time we saw Jane—in the previous episode—she was passed out with one hand on Roger’s leg as he made a friendly phone call to Joan. With season four, perhaps more? Weiner admits…

I am not big on giving the audience what they want but I am big on giving Roger and Joan what they want, if they can get close to it.

As Bertram Cooper informs Roger—who uber-briefly entertained a life of golf and retirement in the finale—he’s not getting any younger. Work is what keeps Bert going, and he tells Roger it’s the same for him: New York competition and “the hunger.” But this seems more true for Bert—who appeared more eccentric and scatter-shot this season than in the past—and Don, who thrives on independence and a steely confidence maintained by “moving forward.” What really keeps Roger going, in my opinion, is companionship and love affairs that are less serious but deeper than Draper’s flings. (Including Don’s latest with the hippy-dippy teacher, a character sure to return next season.) Perhaps, after decades of sampling behind previous wife’s back and in face of an evident maturity-fissure with Jane, Sterling has set his bulls-eye on that ginger broad for good. (We all forecast Weiner issuing Joan’s incompetent, rapist husband, Greg, off to to die in VietNam, right?)

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Duck, Duck, Gross: There was no shortage of predictions that pegged Herman “Duck” Phillips swinging in and playing a role in a bid on Sterling Cooper in the finale. After all, Duck’s rather gross “nooners” with Peggy in various hotel rooms have left an icky, business-is-war anticipation. When Duck attempted to recruit the top employee(s) and protege(s) of Don, his much stronger adversary, by playing to her weaknesses, it recalled a lesson from How to Win Friends and Influence People; when Duck proceeded to bang said protege multiple times as an expression of dominance over said adversary, it recalled a questionable lesson from The 48 Laws of Power.

In a season that saw Don Draper rediscover his identity by being forced to (and subconsciously allowing himself to) shed the Draper facade, the finale brought into focus the meaningful symmetry of Betty Draper and Peggy Olson. With the exception of Sally Draper, these are the two most important and vital females in Draper’s life (for now), and he has left both of them in states of uncertainty and loneliness for the entire season, even as he continued to dish out harsh reprimands and reality-checks.

His failure in this regard led to the manifestations in secrecy of Betty’s relationship with Henry Francis and Peggy’s with—and far more quizzically—Duck. Both of these women sought the comfort, compliments, and father-like guidance of an older man with power equal to Don’s (though Duck’s may be illusory; he operates out of hotel rooms) and attention and affection that far surpassed his. Matthew Weiner explains…

Don does identify with Peggy; she’s more like Don than anybody else, whether she realizes it or not… Don is hard on her the way he’s hard on himself… That speech to me is about him—about losing his marriage and the way he saw himself—it’s about her and her past…

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I’ve read PG-13 fan discussions pertaining to whether Don and Peggy would ever bang. As Weiner states, it’s more of a brother-sister relationship, though one couldn’t help notice the similarities between Don promising to “spend the rest of my life trying to hire you,” and Henry Francis forever offering Betty everything she ever wanted in life. When Don tells Peggy, after visiting her at her semi-new apartment, that he doesn’t know if he can make it without her, the similarity to Henry’s line about eternity is obvious. If Draper really cared about saving his marriage, this is the type of selfless confession he’d have to make to Betty. Whether she would accept it (probably not) is beside the point.

What’s unfortunate about the finale is that the urgency of Peggy coming aboard Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce didn’t sing the way it should have; Peggy’s teary eyes as she sat across from Don left me wondering if, like with Henry and Betty, more had occurred between Don and Peggy on a platonic level than the season illustrated. Peggy simply hasn’t been present enough this season to make her anger and sadness palpable; when she asked for more credit and respect from Don earlier this season, his refusal mirrored, in an agreeable fashion, that of Conrad Hilton’s bluntness to Don in the finale: earn it, tooth and nail.

It’s also odd not so much that Duck failed to appear in the episode but that Peggy did not consult with him per his earlier offer in face of Don’s makeshift extension of camaraderie. Drawing these two adversaries closer is the fact that Duck has likely sat on the same couch that Don was sitting on as he reiterated his offer. (Viewers may or may not recall that Peggy’s roommate recently remarked that Duck had been sleeping over.) What ultimately sucks some power out of the episode is that fans know, not unlike Joan’s detour, that Olson is too vital a character (and Moss too vital an actress) to not rejoin with Don (as it happens, this occurs in the finale, but rejoining him in season four would be no more the surprise).

In season four, how will Weiner and his creative team up the ante beyond the critically dissected production design and fashion?

[Getting rid of Sterling Cooper] was very scary but I knew in my heart it was what I had to do. I have to believe that if Don is as good as he says he is, there’s no way he’s going to go through the ’60s working at a firm like Sterling Cooper. It’s got to be something different… Life is change.

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The above still—and the coinciding scene—offers a surreality that is almost dizzying. With no walls and no barriers, and no closed doors, there is almost a randoms-off-the-street-pose-for-painting air to it. Screw cleaning the carpets, Weiner aspires to place all of his characters into a box, shake them up, and place them back into a masterplan where “Life is change.” And one can be sure, based on all three seasons, that this motto carries darker lows to level out the exhilarating highs (which the show, frankly, needs more of).

But unlike The Sopranos, where Weiner sharpened his teeth, or AMC’s Breaking Bad (which, in my mind, had a better season, but with a dreadful finale), I can’t shake the feeling that I don’t really know this ensemble of characters. Not in the existential way, either. Too often this season of Mad Men was akin to knowing and understanding well-calculated, animated, and intelligent chess pieces. Mad Men is still one of my favorite shows and deserves all of the ratings and awards it can get, but this is the season where I paid more attention to Weiner’s strings, manipulations, and alignments of traits and events, than to any genuine character investment as a fan. And not by choice.

Now that that Ice Bitch, Betty Draper, is out of the way, I look forward to watching a newly sideburned Don Draper sit on a carpet inside his sure-to-be-cool bachelor pad and play Beatles records to his attentive kids.  But hopefully, only on weekends. Don Draper declared in the finale that he wants to work; now that his family life has fragmented, I hope that season four sees his renewed professional life placed front and center.

Best Actor of Season Three: John Slattery

Best Jokes of Season Three: John Slattery (duh)

Best Actress of Season Three: Christina Hendricks

Best Episode of Season Three: “The Gypsy and the Hobo”

Best Scene of Season Three: Lawnmower accident, “Guy Walks Into an Advertising Agency”

Special Season Three Raise Recommendation: Carla (Deborah Lacey)

Season Three Finale /Film Rating: 8/10

Season Three /Film Rating: 8.5/10

For /Film’s previous recap of Mad Men’s third season, click here. Hat tip to @mfiege for a quick answer per this article.

Hunter Stephenson can be reached at h.attila/gmail and on Twitter.

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  • guest
    "Breaking Bad (which, in my mind, had a better season with a dreadful finale)"

    are you kidding me???? I really like the finale although was completely surprise by wife decision of separation instead of curiosity.

    As far as mad men goes I enjoyed the finale, since i am more drawn towards office life part of the show and hope they keep it that way, but unfortunately i think SCDP would fail and they would probably end up merging with some big company i think.
  • No discourse? Have you not read Alan Sepinwall's review of the finale and subsequent comments which run into the hundreds...

    I thought the finale was excellent and can't wait to see where the show goes next, hopefully it will break out of its mould and explore some new territory, the possibility of which was set up nicely in the last episode.
  • clearly sarcasm...sepinwall is mentioned in the fourth paragraph.
  • I thought the season finale of the Mad Men was probably it's best episode. I am an entrepreneur and a designer and this episode put an immense smile on my face throughout. I love the direction, I love the character more now, and I love the spirit. Best episode ever and maybe the best show on TV.
  • jpants
    I though the finale was absolutely fantastic, one of my favorite episodes. I've always disliked Betty Draper, so I'm happy to see her potential go. The whole Don's affairs/marriage to Betty story arcs have always been my last favorite. Like the first commenter I find the office plots to be the most intriguing of the series. The SCDP story had me glued to my TV. It was simply awesome to see Don assemble the troops and then ransack the office for all they can. I found this season to be a little slow and too close to old territory at first, but the end really picked up.

    Weiner was dead on with Don needing to move on from his comfort zones (old Sterling Cooper and marriage to Betty). It feels like season 4 is gonna be the next step of Mad Men. Seasons 1-3 all go together, but I think 4 is really gonna try to differ itself. And that's exactly what the series needs to live on; few shows actually understand that and simply repeat the same thing year after year.

    That's actually the problem with The Office. Seasons 1-3 were fantastic and 4 had some really good episodes (The Negotiation comes first to mind), but it quickly went downhill as there just wasn't enough material to continue the show at such a high level. They began to drag out plots that eventually led to nothing such as the Andy, Dwight, Angela love triangle which went on way to long and they cleaned up the huge mess way to quickly and now act like it never happened. The Micheal Scott Paper Company was a big twist and was exactly what the show needed. Sadly the ditched that plot quickly and put things back to the old status quo before it could breath enough life into the show to carry on. They are trying now to change things up with Jim as co-manager, which is a nice attempt but I'm not sure it's helping enough.

    But enough of my Office rant. Mad Men season 3 ended amazingly and I'm extremely eager to see what's to come.
  • "she drunkenly blacks out more than girls at Duke University"

    Does someone have a beef? This comment seems to be pretty unrelated. And yes, I did go to Duke. ;) Normally we get more grief for being nerdy and uncool than drunkenly blacked out. Go figure. Otherwise, a good review.

    I'm excited for Man Men, and glad we've "trimmed the fat," so to speak. Kinsey et al were really hogging up precious screen time. Though, I wouldn't want Weiner to get rid of amazing periphery characters like Carla, Sally, and of course Joan. Hoping Sal makes a return at some point. But, Kinsey and Ken won't be missed much in my book. Their characters were never as developed as the rest.
  • There is a reason why Tom Wolfe used a Duke composite as the backdrop for I Am Charlotte Simmons. :) And yeah, it's not so much a beef as polite hatred.

    Nice comment. I don't consider Joan to be a peripheral character, as she's an integral part of the office unlike Carla (who I hope sticks around) and Sally (who no doubt will return).
  • Michael_W
    If the Mad Men finale was a 8/10 I would hate to see what grade the other 98% of television shows get.
  • Bia
    Interesting thoughts. Alan Sepinwall wrote one time that Jon, January and Elisabeth are all on similar contracts for a specific number of years that dictates that they must appear in a majority of the episodes. So I'm thinking, Matt will continue to follow Betty without Don.
  • JoeViturbo
    I miss Sal
  • Stryker
    Great review Hunter, can't wait until next summer.
  • Great essay Hunter. The essays you do on Mad Men and Breaking Bad are special treats here on /Film.

    Still haven't read anything as good as the essay on There Will Be Blood.
  • frelling_cute
    The show has really gotten frustrating to me. Most characters are not likeable (especially Don) and the pace is sooo damnnn slowwww.
  • Itri12
    It's always been slow.
  • rookje
    8/10? Is that even real? It was probably the best season finale I've ever seen (best series finale would be Six Feet Under).
  • B. Larry
    Yeah, as other commenters have already stated, your feeling that no one else is writing about this would be hilarious if you weren't posing as some type of quasi entertainment journalist; given that, though, you'll have to take our word for it that you should be embarrassed. You should be embarrassed by a lot of what you've written here, especially the quite offensive throwaway line about Duke girls blacking out. Really in horrendously bad taste. It's funny, you accuse Matt Weiner of being heavy-handed, but that's all you, dude. You're also simply wrong about 85% of what you assert here, no time to take the points on 1-by-1, but Bobby, as people who are good at analyzing this show on Slate have mentioned, had that incredible line about "Why are we in the living room?" He's as brilliant as everything else here, you just apparently aren't deft enough to take it all in. And then, best of all and without irony, you spend a virtual page using The Office as a comparison and model for Mad Men's progress. It makes me think that not only do you not get this show, you're not good at this kind of analysis in general. Very embarrassing to you personally, but also to the site, though of course between that Boy Band video and a bunch of other stuff, /Film has been on a real jag of stuff that paints all of you guys as even being mediocre at fandom.
  • B. Larry
    Yeah, as other commenters have already stated, your feeling that no one else is writing about this would be hilarious if you weren't posing as some type of quasi entertainment journalist; given that, though, you'll have to take our word for it that you should be embarrassed. You should be embarrassed by a lot of what you've written here, especially the quite offensive throwaway line about Duke girls blacking out. Really in horrendously bad taste. It's funny, you accuse Matt Weiner of being heavy-handed, but that's all you, dude. You're also simply wrong about 85% of what you assert here, no time to take the points on 1-by-1, but Bobby, as people who are good at analyzing this show on Slate have mentioned, had that incredible line about "Why are we in the living room?" He's as brilliant as everything else here, you just apparently aren't deft enough to take it all in. And then, best of all and without irony, you spend a virtual page using The Office as a comparison and model for Mad Men's progress. It makes me think that not only do you not get this show, you're not good at this kind of analysis in general. Very embarrassing to you personally, but also to the site, though of course between that Boy Band video and a bunch of other stuff, /Film has been on a real jag of stuff that paints all of you guys as even being mediocre at fandom.
  • LadyGaga
    good grief. you know what's amazing about a sense of humor? it makes life LESS MISERABLE. mabes you try to find one, it's nice.
  • el_benzo
    i dunno. while i usually enjoy reading Hunter's stuff (even though he's a bit longwinded), i found this essay lacking. i don't even wanna READ about The Office. eww.
  • Snow Angel
    I guess I'm the only one who liked Betty's character -- at least I did when she was shooting birds and breaking chairs. Maybe Henry will bring out that side of her again. But she'll have her hands full with him, if he sticks around. He's a control freak.

    Will Cosgrove quit the ad business to write novels full time? If so, will he put out a book that doesn't do a very good job of disguising the folks at the old agency -- exposing their secrets? if so, that's how we could get Sal back.

    The surgeon general puts out some nasty info about cigarettes in January of '64 and sales plummet for a few months. What will that do to the Lucky Strike account?

    Now that Don will be single, can Weiner please get Rachel to shed her husband so the two of them can get back together?

    I don't think I can handle the idea of Don with sideburns and a wide flowered necktie. But I do hope his new agency is one of those swell boutique agencies that popped up in the sixties, less rigid and more fun.
  • JKW3000
    I think the one thing I've come to appreciate the most about Mad Men is that it's willing to go in directions you didn't expect it. I don't mean it in the sense as "the gang start a new Sterling Cooper;" rather, the fact that a series that, for two seasons, ended on fantastic notes of ambivalence and dissatisfaction now sees a season end with a great degree of closure and a complete renewal of its premise. The season finale blew my mind because, for the first time, it was willing to make a clean, unequivocal break.

    I disagree with the notion that the characters were not well explained, though I will concede that this is certainly applicable to the periphery characters. However, previous seasons only gave us glimpses as well (Cosgrove and his short story, for instance). I do find the analogy between Mad Men and The Office flawed though, as periphery characters like Kevin and Creed can exist as one-note characters in the context of a comedy. They only need one or two jokes in an episode and you suddenly know them well; Cosgrove or Kinsey would need a whole episode. Plus, their archetypes are built from the experiences an audience may have had with people who remind them of Kevin or Creed...it's a lot harder to do that with a period piece. Great season for Sal though, I'd be willing to bet money on his return to season 5.

    A weaker season than the last two, granted, but a weaker season of Mad Men is still better than the stronger seasons of a lot of other shows. Still blew me away, particularly the revelation that Don witnessed his father's death. Hopefully they'll return to one of the best cliches that worked for the first two seasons: a glimpse into the rise of Don Draper from Dick Whitman.
  • Correct, the prior two seasons also contained little background on Cosgrove, but three seasons in, this is a character who should be shaded in by now. The short story arc is mentioned in the article as an example of a loose-end that, if memory serves, Weiner hasn't mentioned since within the show.

    Per the comparison to The Office: This wasn't meant to be taken 100% seriously, but I definitely see a fun parallel between the creation of The Michael Scott Paper Company and Draper going rogue and co-founding Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce, in that both Michael Scott and Draper take their favorite male/female employees along with promises of hard won glory.

    And my point wasn't that characters like Cosgrove are as complex as The Office's (or less so), of course not; the comparison between a smaller character on The Office like Kevin or Creed versus Mad Men's Cosgrove and Kinsey was made to illustrate that even though Kevin is largely one-note, viewers have far greater familiarity with him---much of which is inferred---and thus, he's seen as a vital character that many look forward to with each episode.

    Given the complexity of the writing on Mad Men and the superlative demands of its take on drama to create well rounded characters, it's disconcerting that these office characters still seem like strangers after the finale is finished, with their futures hanging in the balance both in the show's reality and outside it. How can we be worried about their futures if we have so little information on their present and past?

    Ostensibly, as Don and Betty's lives are mined deeper and deeper, this also leaves less time for more integral office characters like Peggy and Harry to be explored, and thus they suffer in the long run when their storylines take dramatic and interesting turns that ask us to relate somewhat and contemplate the journey that lead them down this path. One can say that season three was reserved by grand design to explore the Drapers and the end of their marriage, but I still believe that commercial breaks along with Weiner's insistence on introducing secondary characters outside the office makes the design imperfect.

    And yes, Mad Men is easily one of the strongest shows on TV, but it should also be held to higher standards not unlike a new film from Paul Thomas Anderson or the Coen Brothers.
  • Taft207
    they should hire sal.
  • kencosgrove
    Cosgrove didn't have a piece published in the New Yorker, he had Tapping a Maple On A Cold Vermont Morning published in Atlantic Monthly.

    fixfixfix
  • kencosgrove
    as well, the best scene of season 3 was not the lawnmower, i wouldn't even consider that the most shocking, the best scene was Don firing Sal. heartbreaking.
  • Andy III
    Boy yeah, I'm afraid I would rate this finale as one of the best I've ever seen.
    It created palpable giddiness here.

    I was amazed at how it took all of the subtle stuff that was happening all season and tied it up perfectly into an incredibly exhilarating hour. All in a way that I did not see coming. Everything just clicked in to place in this episode.

    It also didn't tease you with stupid fake cliffhangers, but at the same time created interest in the future of the series. I'm very surprised that you don't seem interested in where it goes from here...I cannot wait to see. The dismantling of the old Sterling Cooper makes sense to me, and puts challenges right in front of all the characters.

    It allowed Peggy to stretch her legs just enough with the confidence she's gained by being pursued by another agency. Which was nice to see.

    And of course we knew Joan would return someday, somehow, but having her swoop in to do what Joan does best elicited whoops in this house. It was the very definition of delayed gratification.

    I personally am not mourning my lack of information about Ken Cosgrove. So he's been pushed to the background...the show is only 40 minutes for thirteen weeks, something has to go if you're going to bring in Connie Hilton and other interesting characters like that. So one of the more uninteresting characters get pushed back...so be it.

    I thought the episode was actually masterful.

    Although I'm still wondering how the poor school teacher is doing.
  • talmandi
    Thoughful commentary, but your throw-away line "the penultimate JFK-and-Oswald-got-popped episode" was an unfortunate distraction. Bad guys in comic book adaption movies "get popped." These are real people, one of which was a sitting President at the time he "got popped."
  • rosie1843
    Peggy's relationship with Duck Phillips was gross? How? Were they have S&M sex or something? How is it that you can push for a Roger/Joan hookup, when Joan is nearly twenty years younger than Roger, and express contempt at Peggy and Duck's relationship? I think you're being a hypocrite. Is this because Duck had abandoned his lousy dog, last season?
  • duck duck gross!
  • will1138
    8 out of 10. Wow. Doesn't bode well for other TV shows.
  • Rev Rick White
    I loved the Mad Men finale and can't wait for next season. Personally I would describe Peggy and Don's relationship as father/daughter rather than brother/sister.

    I hope we see Salvatore come back. He was the only human character in the collection of robots in that office ;)

    So tired of Betty Draper. Hope she is gone for good.
  • Rosie
    What on earth makes people think that this is the end of Betty Draper? Are they really that stupid enough to think that her story is over with? Don needed to put Betty behind him??? Bullshit!! Betty NEEDED to put Don behind her. Frankly, I'm curious to see what her struggles will be with Don finally out of her life.
  • Lee
    Best Actress of Season Three: Christina Hendricks


    Oh please!!! I've seen performances from Elizabeth Moss and January Jones that were better.
  • jujubean
    I really wish Mr. W would bring DOn to task about his treatment of BEtty. It is unrealistic to think that Betty on some level was distned by his behaviour...i mean the affair with Suzanne and all his hyposcrisy about calling Betty a whore when he had his slut in his car is just plain ridiculous. I am tired of his adultry and the blame Betty takes. It is an unfair and distasteful portrayal of a woman who was married for what she did exactly as Don wanted her to be and then treated so shabbily is insulting. Get over yourself Don. I hope suzanne ends up being a fatal attraction type of character and teaches Don a real lesson in infidelity and appreciation for Betty. "You're a whore"? really? gee Don your a male slut. You have to forgive Betty and take the mote out of your eye. Also all these woman who disregard the marriage and let these men disregard marriage need to be smacked down for being so rude to their fellow sisters and enabling all these gross men.
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