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We don’t know much about what Ridley Scott is planning to do with his prequel to Alien, the landmark sci-fi horror film he directed in 1979. There has been a lot of speculation that the film would involve the race of creatures from which hails the original film’s ’space jockey’, that giant skeletal being which fell prey to the xenomorph long before Ripley and her crew arrived on a derelict spaceship. Now Sir Ridley has divulged some ideas about the timeline of the film, which leads to more informed speculation about what we’ll see.

Empire spoke to Scott when he was out and about in London to attend the local festival premiere of his daughter’s movie Cracks. (Poster and trailer for which we just featured.) Scott threw out some really general statements about the film — they know where it’s going, the screenplay is now being written by Jon Spaihts, and then this more specific tidbit:

The prequel will be a while ago. It’s very difficult to put a year on Alien, but [for example] if Alien was towards the end of this century, then the prequel story will take place thirty years prior.

How long does it take for a corpse to become as clean-stripped as the  jockey? Depends, I guess, on whether you’re looking at it in a mythic or scientific manner. If it’s mythic, then probably hundreds of years, which rules out seeing what happened to bring that ship down. If scientific, then thirty years is plenty of time, because LV-426 had an atmosphere in which the body could decay. But then you can get geeky — did it also have the bacteria and other creatures that would be required for decay? Looked pretty barren, so maybe not.

The quote we’ve all been holding onto to anchor ideas about this prequel is Scott’s own, from 2002, where he mentioned interest in “where the alien creatures were first found and explain how they were created.” He’s also mentioned interest in the space jockey’s race. But that may not be where the film is going now. If the timeline is just thirty years prior to Alien, we could be looking at a story featuring Weylan-Yutani’s earliest info about and/or encounter with the xenomorph. We may still see how they were created — could this be biotech gone awry, and not natural evolution? We know that Weylan-Yutani is ‘the company’, but it isn’t at that point the only company. (It also isn’t spelled with a ‘d’, which was added to spell Weyland-Yutani in Aliens.)

Now we’re just into spitballing and wild assumptions. Seems unlikely that Scott would do too much with the corporate fiction of the later films (in which the company’s founder is revealed to be android designer Charles Bishop Weyland) but we could still see a point where Weylan and Yutani are separate companies that have a hand in actively developing the xenomorph, whether from raw material or through cultivation. Because the other thing Scott said to Empire is “it’s a brand new box of tricks,” whatever that means.

  • Sir Loin
    The space jockey scared the crap outta me as a 9-year-old back in 1979! So I'm torn...it'd be interesting to see them in action, but keeping them mysterious is also appealing. It'd be quite epic to see the Alien homeworld, perhaps with different variations like the Dark Horse comics had...such as the big, fish-aliens in the Colonial Marines series.
  • JoeViturbo
    The Space Jockey looked thoroughly mummified which, while requiring an atmosphere free of bacteria and fungi that would decompose the corpse, would also require a dry, and extremely warm or cold (frozen or dessicated). It's quite likely that it would take much longer than 30 yrs. to arrive at the state in which it was found. Although, scientists have no understanding of alien environments and must, to this date, base everything on extrapolations of Earth conditions. It is not impossible to imagine a scenario where the composition of the Space Jockey's flesh would be unpalatable, or just plain poisonous to the planets decomposers (assuming they do in fact exist). Additionally, we cannot rule out the application of some futuristic, alien, instantaneous, mummification device.
  • pete_traynor
    "we cannot rule out the application of some futuristic, alien, instantaneous, mummification device."

    I love this so much! Send that in to Fox. If they haven't considered such a thing they bloody well should. I'll back you all the way!
  • CyT
    I think one of those was used by the evil dude in Tank Girl wasnt it? You know where he sticks the empty bottle in the dude and turns him into an refreshing beverage... The leftover dudes hands looked pretty mummified.
  • antifyre
    hmmmm..... 30 years before Alien eh....I can see an Alien dying/Ripley being born analogy being concocted in someones head (I'm looking at you FOX Creative executive #215212)
  • hellojacktoad
    "Seems unlikely that Scott would do too much with the corporate fiction of the later films (in which the company’s founder is revealed to be android designer Charles Bishop Weyland)"

    I thought they were ignoring Alien Vs. Predator? Also, I remember reading somewhere that Alien was supposed to be set 2085.
  • ron
    Your body is already full of and crawling with bacteria required to help it decompose, being alive is what keeps it from happening. Not to mention, spaceships are undoubtedly not bacteria free, there's no way to screen every microbe coming in or out, or things that have been there all along.

    Also, I think the idea of the company creating the Aliens is a bad idea. I think it'd be much more interesting to play off the mystery of an Alien homeworld. Did they destroy it themselves? What's their natural form, or do they even have one? Having been created by the company is cliched corporate conspiracy, even moreso than the story already has.

    Plus, if they created it themselves, why are they so desperate to capture the creatures, shouldn't they be able to recreate it? Or have something left of it? In addition to that, humans obviously haven't found other intelligent or comparable life to us, so for the company to create the creature, have it find some other intelligent life, destroy it, and then us rediscover the creature we created all within a very short time span is very implausible.
  • mbellerbrock
    I agree, for God's sake stay away from the cliched "we created the monster" crap.
  • your mom
    I thought that the Xempmorph was actually a military experiment gone wrong to begin with?
  • The Great Cambino
    Well, according to Dan O'bannon, it was originally conceived as a cousin to HP Lovecraft's Yog Sothoth. I think that's in his Alien commentary. As far as the alien's origins in the later films/comics you may be right. I don't know.
  • Shawntos the Freshmaker
    I have to say if The Company designed and built them then what the hell would they need to go out and pick specimens up why not whip up another batch.
  • daskro
    I don't understand how Charles Bishop Weyland is the founder of the company and the creator the Bishop androids and yet is just a middle-aged man in alien 3? Perhaps someone can chime on on the choronology, but how does he start the company, live throughout the decades long gap between alien and alien 3 and still be relatively young? Cloning perchance?
  • Indie What?
    I always assumed that a guy who could create convincingly human-looking androids was probably mostly mechanical himself, at least in the latter years.
  • damndirtyape
    Simple - Bishop stays young through life extension. Either through genetic or tech/nano-tech means.

    The whole subject of lifespan/physical imperfections/balding/obesity etc never makes sense in science fiction films. You have interstellar travel technology yet people get fat and old just like primitive modern day?

    For example, in Aliens Ripley's daughter died in her 70s of old age. That makes no sense based on what we already know is coming down the pike, let alone inevitable advances coming over the next centuries.

    Star Trek is the worst offender. In 250+ years humans, if they even remotely resemble the primitive biological versions of our modern selves, will have such incredible mastery of genetics and various related technologies that simple issues such as slowing aging will have long since been dealt with. Most likely humans in the 23rd century will be more synthetic than biological or perhaps 100 percent synthetic (mind uploading etc.)

    Where are the hybrid life-forms in Trek aside from the cartoonish Borg? Hell where are the robots? Nothing makes any sense.
  • The Great Cambino
    I think your vision of the future is too optimistic. The existence of the technology is only a small part of being able to stop aging. People tend to freak out over things like cloning and genetic engineering. Stem sell research is just now becoming acceptable to slightly more than half of Americans -- and Europe doesn't have a huge head start. Until these things become socially acceptable, they won't exist. And that could be a lot further off than 200 hundred years.
  • damndirtyape
    Who wouldn't want to extend their lifespan 50 or 100 years or more?

    As far as cybernetics.. it starts small - artificial hearts, nano-tech molecules, printed organs, enhanced senses (things already in the field or in labs) now expand those trends out hundreds of years (and not in a linear sense since technology is accelerating at an exponential rate thus 250 years from now will be like 1000 or more in the past unless we get wiped out) Imagine societies values of 1000 years ago vs today. Technology is going to be so integral to the human experience in the 22nd century that it makes our modern reliance on gadgets and cars etc utterly primitive in comparison.
  • barryjohnreid
    Hi there,

    Just thought you should know that I have done some work with a chap working at a "prestigious University" here in the UK that is being funded by NASA. He has knocked out the ageing gene in Nematode worm (C.elegans) and has increased it lifespan by over 5 times its normal longetivity. The only difficulty is how to control that rate of ageing (would you like to spend 10 years+ as a toddler?). He claims that the first human
    to reach 250 years old has ALREADY been born (this assumes gene therapy will take place in the next 25 years).

    Hope that is of interest!

    B.
  • pistachiowildebeest
    I'm fairly certain Lance Henrickson's character *died* in Alien Vs Predator, although I've forgotten most of that movie.

    In which case it's not the same person in Alien 3.
  • dogless
    Why do we assume we knew what the 'Space Jockey' looked like in the first place? We're basing our assumptions off of human phsyiology. Maybe it was half-skeletal looking when it was alive.
  • RussFischer
    Not an unreasonable guess. The corpse and the xenomorph don't look much different. But it's traditional to suppose that the obviously dead skeletal remains are missing something, like flesh, yes?
  • JoeViturbo
    I think the complete lack of visible joints that would suggest the ability to move is what led me to the "mummified" rather than "skeletal" remains conclusion. Even exoskeletal creatures have visible joints
  • Mitch
    What I think is more relevant is what happened to the Alien that exited the Space Jockey?

    Now based on my previous post in this thread...

    After the Alien absorbed/adapted (morphed?) the Space Jockey's DNA it would be capable of space travel. Then the Aliens could be anywhere! For the purposes of the upcoming film most likely where some unexpecting humans happen to be going about their business.

    I call this the Mothership Scenario.
  • TheREALAmerica
    If they're going in the direction of creating the xenomorph by means of biotechnology, wouldn't that in turn no longer make it an extraterrestrial alien, or am I wrong in saying that?
  • Mitch
    Where did it come from? The Future.

    Where was it going? Come one, you know... thats right, the past.

    We all know only "living" organisms can travel through time.

    Bio-engineered ship destined for Predator home world with Bio-engineered 'Alien' cargo as a little pay back/preemptive strike/whatever...

    I think a lot about this type of stuff.
  • Lightemup
    I loved Alien, and I like that they aren't going to go and make a remake of the classic, I know Ridley Scott will do an excellent job at it, if he wants too. I just hope he wont fall into the money making and make it PG13, he should go with what the fans feel and just go ahead and make it Rated R.
  • andyg
    that would be counter to the canon already established for the Alien to be the product of human biotech. The Predators have been hunting Aliens for centuries if not millenia in the PvA fusion series.
  • David
    Sounds like a naked money grab to me. Hollywood truly has run out of fresh ideas to be rehashing Alien after so many bloody sequels. Enough already.
  • drytoad1
    I recall reading years ago that the alien takes on the form of it's host body. So who knows what the " real " alien, since it would've come from maybe dozens of different host bodies throughout the galaxy, would look like?
  • Lord Humongous
    Hmmm. Interesting. Since the popularity of Aliens grew comic books came out (DC? ... Marvel?) that picked up the Alien plot/timeline and ran with it. It is my understanding that these comics produced the plot line of the Predator-Alien link in that the Predator race either discovered and enslaved the "Alien" race OR genetically engineered them to hunt for sport. If my recollection serves me - the "Aliens" got out of control of the Predator race, killing off most of them and as a result only a few hundred or even thousand Predators remained in the galaxy. In terms of the human/earth timeline this occured well before year 1 BCE (AD). So if one follows this plot line then the Aliens existed well before humans could have engineered them. A running plot line from the movies is that humans (Weylan-Yutani) were interested in covertly acquiring the "Aliens" for the purpose of weaponizing them illustrating the dark side of humanity in its persuit of power. I think an interesting plot line would be one that parallels the Predator race and the reasons they interacted with the "Aliens" and the human race and their reasons for interacting with the "Aliens". Many, many metaphors can be used here.

    I think some people are confused about the whole Bishop (Aliens/Alien 3) - Charles "Bishop" Weyland characters - because they are 2 seperate characters. Charles Bishop Weyland was a man and the CEO of Weylan. His death was revealed in AVP. Bishop is an android who was created in Weylan's image (many metaphors here) and was present in Aliens andf Alien 3. The OTHER (3rd) Bishop/Weylan - the one who bled red blood when struck in the head Resurrection. at the end of Alien 3 was a CLONE - thus foreshadowing the plotline of Alien
  • terry brogan
    I think it would be interesting if the next alien movie would possibly introduce a new type of alien species.Sense the space jockey race are supposedly the creators of the alien creature as a biological weapon against an as yet unknown species they are at war with,It might be cool to see what that race of aliens looked like and how they fit into the mythology.
  • Davey Slausen
    I agree totally. I'd like to see them get Giger back to design everything and not have any humans in the movie whatsoever.
  • Den McSlabhuge
    The next movie should not even mention or acknowledge a "Queen"alien.Since the alien life-cycle is Egg ,face hugger,chest burster,adult alien,then cocooned prey .The prey is then slowly transformed into an egg form. which lies in a state of hibernation till activated by the proximity of another host.Having a queen in the mix just makes it too much like earthly ants.If you are going to have an alien life form it should have a really alien life cycle.
  • Jimbo
    Screw it. Ridley Scott is going to team up with George Lucas--you following this?--and set it up so that the freakin aliens are offshoots of the Yuuzhan Vong. What will follow is a massive, six-part franchise about how Jedi come into our galaxy and start hunting these guys. Cause, hey, why not?
  • monroecolby
    So cool! Looking forward to seeing it! I love the idea of learning about the host alien, H.R. Geiger's skeletal alien, and it's role in facilitating the evolution of the acid for blood alien!

    Conversely, it would be hard for any female to out perform Sigourney Weaver's "Ellen Ripley" role. She was tough, and she was feminine!
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