Trick ‘r Treat Director Talks Sequel

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Michael Dougherty’s semi-anthology horror film Trick ‘r Treat has been the subject of a lot of blog talk over the past two years, and now thanks to this week’s DVD release, everyone can see it. So, of course, Dougherty is talking about the sequel. In this case, it’s one I’m very interested to hear more about.

Dougherty tells MTV that he’s got part of the first sequel mapped out. He knows how the sequel ends, and without giving too much away, that’s the most crucial part. Because while Trick ‘r Treat is labeled an anthology film, in reality it is a handful of interwoven tales. While focusing on one, you’ll catch glimpses of the others and in that way fill in some intentional little narrative gaps. And there’s sort of a full-circle narrative style going on, so the end is, in some ways, the beginning.  Once again, the organizing principle here will have to do with Sam, the little guy on the DVD covers above, who is destined to become the series’ mascot and very soon a costume you’ll see every Halloween. Dougherty says,

The whole idea originally, for me, was to do one if not every Halloween, at least every other Halloween. Because it’s an anthology film, it lends itself to telling another four stories which would intertwine – but I think you could take the film and explore how Halloween was celebrated in different locations, different time periods, and the one consistent character would be Sam, the mascot.

Beyond that, I’m not going to evangelize the first Trick ‘r Treat too much. It’s a great movie, a really fun little Halloween flick. Finally got to see it last weekend with a group of friends and, though most were skeptical at first, all were converted by the end. But so much has been written about how it’s the greatest horror movie since [insert last great horror movie title here] that I don’t want to over-inflate expectations at this point. Trick ‘r Treat is out on DVD this week, and if you like fun, well-written horror, you’ll likely enjoy it. That is all.

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  • rose69
    For what it was Trick R Treat was a good movie. I think it was way over inflated on ratings as far as being the best movie out there Since "whatever your fav was" I like good horror movies and I am looking forward to the sequel. Hopefully they will just release it and leave it in the theaters instead of creating some scarry movie hipe crap out of it again
  • Dustin
    I really didn't care for this movie much and I'm a horror movie enthusiast. After all the hype it was quite disappointing to watch. I had convinced my sister to buy this after reading only the reviews, and she watched in disbelief at how terrible of a movie this is.
  • Fatherbradley
    Yeah I heard nothing but incredible reviews for this film (mostly from this site), so I rented the blue ray, invited a bunch of people over on Halloween, and proceeded to watch the most horrific,,,,,piece of shit excuse for a horror,,,,no not even; a MOVIE period. What the fuck are you cineretards smoking? Seriously, this was laughably aweful. Not scary, Not funny, No story, Nothing of any importance gong on, oh yeah and a piece of shit.
  • riggs
    and here i thought sam was an evil alien that liked halloween a lil too much.
  • Thoroughly looking forward to watching it this weekend. Hope it lives up to the hype surrounding it. I find horror is one of the hardest formats to meet high standards.
  • Kyle C.
    It doesn't live up to the hype so lower your expectations. That said, it's still a very good movie for the Halloween season. The only real problem I have is that the movie is just too damn short.
  • dangeer
    I agree. Modern horror films usually let me down, as I tend to like more classic horror films going from the 1980s all the way to Nosferatu in 1922. I mostly enjoy horror films with a great moody atmosphere to it. They aren't necessarily horrifyingly scary, but rather creepy and maybe even unsettling with some.

    Trick r Treat reminded me a lot of Halloween, and it had a great look to it. I liked it quite a bit. One of the best looking horror movies I've seen in a while, and Sam will creep you out.
  • Goobity
    Great movie. Definitely lives up to the 2 years of hype.
  • dangeer
    Finally saw the film today. I liked it, but it lacked necessary explanation of some things. We never quite knew why Sam was the way he was and why various spooky things happened on Halloween if people blew out their Jack-o-Lanterns, except that whenever he was around, strange dark events occurred. But why? Why is he around every Halloween? Why does he cause all this mayhem, and how?
  • Kyle C.
    If you really need an explanation, even though I think it's better left to the imagination, on the blu-ray commentary the director says he was born out of a pumpkin patch and is just an evil entity and harbenger of death. So basically, he's just a demon that comes out every Halloween.
  • dangeer
    See, that is what I wish they would have said in the movie. We don't have to know why he was born to be the harbinger of death. We don't need to know who he is. We just need to know that there is a legend of an evil entity born out of a pumpkin patch who enforces the rules of Halloween and that's why evil happens whenever he is around.

    I didn't catch Steven talking about his dad. Thanks for pointing that out. I still don't quite get the werewolves thing though. Sure, it was cool, but what did that have to do with Sam? Sam seems to be the cause of all the evil that happens (at least that is what I gathered), because wherever he was, the bad things happened. It all revolved around Sam. But as far as I remember, he wasn't around when the chicks turned into werewolves. I guess it has to do with when Steven says, "This is the night when all sorts of things roam free." I just thought that Sam still made those things happen when he was around, that he frees the monsters on Halloween.

    Just for clarification, I simply looking for some answers. I really enjoyed the movie, but I got hung up on a couple of things that appeared inconsistent.
  • dangeer
    Correction, Sam was at the Werewolf scene. Just watched it again. My bad.
  • Necessary Spinning
    Actually, I think Sam was in the werewolf scene. Could be mistaken, but I seem to remember him sitting on a log. I get what you're saying, though, and I figure we'll learn more about him in the proposed sequel. But I did like the fact that there's some mystery to him. I assumed he was just a pagan Halloween demon, sort of like a scary Santa or Easter Bunny. Hence the name Sam, short for Samhain.
  • RyanCarell
    That's pretty much the least insightful complaint I've read ina while.

    None of those things have anything to do with the story and how it's being told. They're completely irrelevent.

    Also,the Jack-O-Latern thing is an old pop-culture myth about Halloween, and Sam is pretty clearly, though this is never said, an avenger of the Halloween traditions.

    Still, I see no point in explaining these things in the movie, except to please some people who for some absurd reason would otherwise complain.
  • dangeer
    I know Sam was the avenger of the traditions. I just wanted to know why. What was his motivation? Was he appointed by the devil to carry out supernatural duties on Halloween? Has he always existed, or was he a kid at some point that had something bad happen to him on Halloween and now seeks revenge from the grave every year? I just wanted a tiny bit more of a backstory on the guy.

    I also wanted to know why those girls turned into werewolves/vampires and why Steven killed kids. Does Sam bring out their innermost demons/desires, thus manifesting themselves in different ways (vampires, kid-killers, zombies, etc.)? Or are the things that Sam causes to happen completely random?

    Lastly, why did Sam let Mr. Kreeg go? Just because he got to eat his candy bar? Because he was his most worthy adversary? I'm willing to believe that I just missed something, but I didn't catch it.

    I'm not one who needs an explanation for everything, but this movie just seemed objectless to me in some areas and just needed a couple more lines of dialogue to make things a little clearer but still vague.

    A good example of this is with Michael Myers in Halloween. He was possessed by evil and demented since he was a child. We don't know what the evil was, but we do know that he killed his sister as a child and was at least psychotic from that point onward if not before. Some sort of evil resided within, and that was enough of an explanation but still vague. There was a story behind why he was the way he was. Sam's story was left a complete mystery. Why is he the avenger? Why are there rules for Halloween? Why do werewolves and serial killings manifest themselves randomly when he's around?

    I enjoyed it though, and bought the overall premise. It had been a while since I've seen a movie with such a great horror atmosphere. I just wanted a little more story to go along with the moody ambiance that the film did so well.
  • Kyle C.
    Explained: Sam has been around for a while--he was in the flashback with the handi-capped kids on Halloween which I think took place in the 70's. He only comes out on Halloween. He's just a playful and fucked up little demon.

    Explained: The girls turned into werewolves because it's not what you expect and it's cool. Steven killed because he was a murderer. Also if you listen to what he says, he mentions that his dad tought him evrything he knows which he is also teaching his son. It's like the serial killer circle of life. Sam isn't causing these things to happen, he's just enjoying them. He does get to kick a little ass himself however.

    Sam let Mr. Kreeg go because he gave him a treat, so no trick. It was on accident but still. Plus I'm sure he knew the retarded zombies were gonna get him anyway. He was probably just toying with him.

    This really is a film to watch again and again. Iv'e never seen so much attention to detail in a horror flick before and if you pay attention you will pick up on a lot of little things that help you understand the story and characters better.
  • Rob0729
    Not only did this movie get the shaft in the theaters (since it was direct to video), but the big box retailers are not even carrying the DVD or Bluray. I try to buy my DVDs and Blurays online because it is cheaper, but I didn't realize this movie was coming out this week. I went to Best Buy, Target, and Kmart and none of them had it. It wasn't that they were out of stock, but they just weren't expecting any in. This is surprising since Best Buy carries most of the new direct to video crap that is released. Why not a highly touted direct to video release that had achieved cult status even before it was released. I ended up buying it online and still waiting for it to come to me.
  • Kyle C.
    Yea that sucks. I heard that it was a limited store release meaning not all Best Buys, Targets, or what have you would be getting copies, only particular ones which is bullshit. Not only can't this movie get a fair shake in theatres, it can't get a fair shake on home video either. The fact that this film is finally released and people are still unable to watch it really pisses me off. My Best Buy only got three copies in so I got lucky
  • alangrimm
    Considering the handling of the first installment of this franchise, I would think a release even every other Halloween might be a bit of a lofty goal. It's a totally fresh look at, well I don't think it's truly horror, but it's something new and it would suck to have it ruined by repeats. Look at Saw. It was great the FIRST year, and now Jigsaw's brother's uncle's nephew's cousin's retarded gay niece is back with gadgets and gizmos. Woooo!
  • Kyle C.
    If people buy enough of the DVD's and Blu-ray's I think Warner would smarten up and ask Dougherty for a sequel. Hell, if Boondock Saints 2 can not only get made but get a theatrical release, I wouldn't count Trick 'r Treat out just yet. It is a long shot though. Man, Warner either makes really good decisions (The Dark Knight, Watchmen, The Hangover) or they make really stupid ones (Trick 'r Treat, Where the Wild Things Are-which almost suffered the same fate as Trick 'r Treat, and giving Slumdog away to Fox).
  • freemachine
    Next to 'It's The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown' this is the best Halloween treat of all time. 'T'rT' is destined to be for Halloween what 'A Christmas Story' is to Christmas.
  • goobity
    Charlie Brown is and Asshole.

    ;)
  • Kyle C.
    I blind bought Trick 'r Treat on blu-ray Tuesday after a long two year wait. I've watched it a couple times since then and I've realized that the film really grows on you. It's definitely not perfect like some would lead you to believe as I think it was too short, predictable and by the numbers. At the same time however, it feels just long enough, fresh and fun. I do think it's the best movie about Halloween ever made but that's only because it's really the only one unless you count The Nightmare Before Christmas.

    This is not a scary film and it's definitely not a horror film. It seemed more like a funny and creepy children's fantasy done Pulp Fiction or Go style with the out of order and interconnecting stories. The more I think about it, the more I'm pleased with it, I just think their was way to much hype. It definitely should have had a theatrical run and no doubt would have made some bank if released in October.

    It's not even close to the best horror film ever made like many have declared but it's probably one of the funnest and most beautiful Halloween films ever.
    All that being said, I would love a sequel because I think they could do so much more to improve a great idea, plus Sam is the best horror mascot in a loooong time (I don't count Jigsaw because the Saw films suck!).
  • nathanbeall
    I work at a BBuster and watched this for the first time last week. I've been recommending it to everyone that comes in. At least the cool people. I really liked the quasi-anthology nature as well. Almost like a few eps of Tales From The Crypt woven into each other. I'd like to see more, but I am also skeptical of one every year. I hope (POSSIBLE SPOILER) they bring Dylan Baker's character back... Want some candy?
  • necessaryspinning
    That image is definitely a spoiler, and I thought the film's big mistake was showing us what's behind the burlap. I guess I belong to the don't-show-the-monster school of horror, and I thought it was mush scarier when left up to your imagination. I thought there was a real kid under there, which would have been a lot creepier. Ultimately, that just deflated the whole ending and greatly diminishes my desire for a sequel.

    Rant over. Otherwise, this movie was a lot of fun.
  • indiesucks
    I totally agree. Sam was completely creepy and a bit disturbing until the burlap came off. Then it was "A Nightmare Before Christmas" reject. Not scary at all. The burlap mask was what made Sam, in my opinion.
  • havok
    why would you be reading an article about a sequel to a film you hadn't seen? its not a spoiler, if you think about its a moot point. it would be like reading a synopsis for the season finale of "Lost" or "24" with out watching any of the seasons episodes first.
  • Every year..? Ehhhh, I'm a skeptic. I love the idea of a Tr'T sequel, however. I saw the film a couple weeks ago and it immediately became the best Halloween *anything* (I'm including movies/tv/books) I've seen in a long, long while. It was the first movie to truly evoke the personality of Halloween in my eyes, and that was all I needed. The awesome, and sometimes funny, side stories were just the icing on the cake; a great "mascot" by the name of Sam being the cherry on top. Now, I don't see how anyone could continue that quality every year, but I'd be psyched to see a new Tr'T every couple years..
  • As log as Dougherty has the good ideas and can keep making them every year, I'll be there waiting for them every year. The second it ends up in the hands of a lesser creative team, and becomes the next Saw series, it might as well be abandoned altogether.
  • chuggz
    Not trying to sound like a dick or bitch, but isnt the second picture on the right a little bit of a spoiler for those who havent seen the movie yet?
  • Indie What?
    You know what's a spoiler? Pointing out that an image that people normally wouldn't apply any significant weight to is a spoiler. Kids are so goddamn whiny about spoilers these days. If you want to remain virginally pure about movies, get off the net. Otherwise, suck it up.
  • Indie Sucks
    Why wouldn't they apply significant weight to that picture, Indie? Maybe it has nothing to do with the movie? They can just wonder when that bulbous head is gonna pop up? Gimme a break... Bad move on the DVD case designer's part. BIG SPOILER! Or a big warning not to rent this suck ass movie...
  • Indie What Sucks? Yes.
    Actually, torrenting this movie with no prior buying experience would be the most spoiler-free way to enjoy it ; ). Any intelligent (read: not you) viewer that goes out to buy or rent this flick will see the discrepancy between covers, then say oh, I guess that's our little burlap monster... then as they watch the movie realizing he's not an early reveal, get pissed that one cover was a giveaway. Go eat some bacon.
  • Kyle C.
    It is a spoiler but if you buy or rent it, that's what your gonna see.
  • nathanbeall
    What a dick-bitch... Just kidding. You sound like my kind of movie lover.
  • I would say so... I mean, I'd be kinda pissed to see under the burlap sack if I hadn't seen the movie already.
  • MonsterKilledThePilot
    It should be called 'SMELL MY FEET'
  • Eric Stoltz
    LMAO!!!! That would be hilarious!
  • Rick
    I liked this and I'm not a big fan of horror flicks at all. I hope they don't franchise the shit out of it.
  • dagreenman18
    I just don't see how this took so long to release, but they put out a stupid Saw sequel every year.

    Heres hoping we'll get a TRT sequel, caust it was a damn good movie.
  • chuggz
    LOVE THIS MOVIE!! I bought the blu-ray and regular dvd of this, and Ive watched it four times since tuesday. Absolutely one of the best horror movies Ive ever seen, and I am a very harsh critic when it comes to modern horror anymore. I reccomend this to every single person who is a horror fan or just loves a good movie.
  • Just Start
    stimulating the economy is nothing to be lambasted for.
  • Jef W.
    Why would you buy both? That seems like a waste of money. That would be like purchasing new music on cassette and cd.
  • chuggz
    Why? Because I collect dvds and Blu-ray movies...most movies I buy I always buy the SE and the normal edition. Now I do that with Blu-ray and reg DVDs. Some call it a waste of money, I call it a hobby.
  • Holy Shit, man, that's a VERY expensive hobby..
    However, I have some as well, so enjoy yours.
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