Star Trek Sequel May Contain Pointed Modern Commentary

star_trek_2009

OK, so JJ Abrams, Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzman and a talented cast (to whom, if things are really fair, a lot of the credit must be given) successfully rebooted Star Trek. Obviously there will be another film, and if nearly thirty years of films in the franchise have taught us anything, it is that making a crappy Trek film is all too easy. So what next for the series? More Shakespeare? Or something else? Based on recent comments, it sounds like Star Trek 2 (or whatever it will be called) could get all sorts of modern, at least from a thematic standpoint.

Trek has done allegory in the past, though often much more successfully in the various series than in the films. Based on what he told the LA Times, JJ Abrams is actively thinking about the thematic point of the second film, having done so well setting up the characters in this year’s chapter.

[The next film] needs to tell a story that has connection to what is familiar and what is relevant. It also needs to tell it in a spectacular way that hides the machinery and in a primarily entertaining and hopefully moving story. There needs to be relevance, yes, and that doesn’t mean it should be pretentious. If there are simple truths — truths connected to what we live — that elevates any story — that’s true with any story.

But just because the story has to be relevant doesn’t mean it will be directly linked to current events and/or political topics. (Which can have exactly the opposite effect of making the film relevant, instead making it feel tremendously dated.) But evidently someone wants the series to deal with real current issues, and they’ve said as much to the team. Orci tells the LAT:

…one of the things we heard was, ‘Make sure the next one deals with modern-day issues.’ We’re trying to keep it as up-to-date and as reflective of what’s going on today as possible. So that’s one thing, to make it reflect the things that we are all dealing with today.

Problem there is that as soon as they start tackling ‘real issues’, those things can seem a lot more important than just telling a proper story. Fall into that trap, and suddently Trek is exactly where Abrams said it wouldn’t be: pretentious. Not that it’s an unavoidable trap; all the team has to do is look to the recent Battlestar Galactica series to see how modern political and wartime issues can be tackled by science fiction. That first-season episode with Starbuck interrogating the Callum Keith Rennie Cylon? Frakkin’ fantastic. But Galactica’s luxury was the timespan of a recurring episodic structure. What two-hour story do you write for Trek 2 that deals intelligently with modern issues without feeling clumsy, obvious and self-important? Can’t wait to see where they take this one. Me, I’d be perfectly happy with a decent adventure story.

Related Posts with Thumbnails

  • Gay rights.

    Someone had to say it.

    I mean, people have been saying they'll drop an out and obvious gay character into Star Trek for years. If someone was going to do social issues, that seems to be the one. Especially since it's also probably the safest (besides going green, and aren't the trek things already all green?). I mean, based on what I've seen, they'd probably get more people coming to see it than people turning their backs. Plus, it would kind of be like that first mixed race kiss kind of thing. First mainstream gay hero.

    There are, of course, allot of moronic dick wads who'd freak out about it. I have almost no doubt that a few will respond to this comment.
  • rebeccapidgeon
    Perhaps the next movie could address the touchy subject of Giant Space Lizards reclaiming the last bastions of humanity that they deposited on Earth ... and abrams may involve tom cruise and THE Cult of Scientology which he has become so enamoured of.
  • Name
    So its going to deal with and economic depression and hybrid warp engines?
  • D
    "Me, I’d be perfectly happy with a decent adventure story."
    Ditto!!!
  • Cave Bear
    I'm old enough to remember TOS when it originally aired and being "relevant" is what finally killed the series. Specifically, the third season, which was the year of "relevant TV" (those of you who were around back then may remember what I'm talking about, and it wasn't just Star Trek that was made to look silly by this). Yes, there were other factors that led to the show's cancellation, but this was a biggie. What Hollywierd has never really figured out is that when people go to the movies or watch TV, they want to be entertained, not lectured to, especially not in the heavy-handed way that the Hollywood Left is so prone to. Roddenberry was able to slip in some allegory with a certain measure of subtlety in the first two seasons, but in that last season they were about as subtle as a kick in the head, and it put a lot of people off. A word to the wise, Abrams and company; we want a good SF adventure story and could not care less what you think about "global wormening", race relations, war, etc, ad nauseam.
  • Cato
    This is unfortunate news, and reveals what's wrong with present-day Hollywood. They confuse politics with meaning. "Relevance" quickly slides into obsolescence. The greatest stories are about timeless matters, not ephemeral issues. Nothing could be a bigger turnoff than a ham-fisted allegory about current events.
  • AMR1960
    I just knew it!!! They are gonna kill Star Trek by making it P.C.
    Damn You Hollywood!
  • greggorybasore
    I love how people are taking this vague bit of info and declaring that the next movie is going to be an abysmal suckfest. That internet negativity never fails.

    Conversely a lot of people seem to be looking at the classic series with rose colored glasses. Half the time when the writers tried to focus on then modern issues the result was exactly what Abrams want's to avoid, pretentious ham fisted morality plays. The episode with the space hippies is a prime example of the writers trying to be relevant and winding up looking like a bunch o idiots.
  • Khr'ell
    Negativity?...You just dissed one of the best episodes ...Herbert!!!
  • greggorybasore
    You mean the episode so awful that even the actors called it one of the worst ones of the original series?
  • Fairweather_Trek_Fan
    Dammit! This was such a good movie, now they're going to interject politics into it? Dammit!
    We get enough politics in the real world, if I wanted to get a political statement I'd watch or read something I agree with, not a Sci-Fi movie that's not suppose to bring it up.
    JJ Abrams officially sucks now.
  • adam
    So true fairweather. Probably get some crappy message about how species x didn't control greenhouse gases, and look at how screwed they are now. Just give us a great story without all the lefty posturing and moralizing. Thanks.
  • Khr'ell
    Trek having "lefty posturing and moralizing" was the freaking point. Sorry if us Trekkers don't want Abrams to F with the formula or Roddenberry's vision... There's a guy making movies for folks like you - Michael Bay.
  • Hussien
    Will it have Galactic Organizers giving advice to interstellar under-age flesh peddlers on how to finance their star-ships and planet landing rights?
  • Leroy
    you ar a dam racist. acorn is not diung that! you just don like black man as your boss now obama in-RACIST
  • Joe Melnick
    Um, Obama is not anybody's boss. He works for us.
  • Dave
    Well... I guess that means we can all finally get that Kirk / Spock / Bones love triangle all out in the open. Scotty can even marry them.
  • Bingly!
    Lets get William Gibson in to adapt the screenplay, could be interesting..
  • Old showbiz saying: If you want to send a message, call Western Union.
  • zeze2008
    Oh great. Like there enough sanctimonous idiots in Hollywood discussing modern day issues. I loved this Star Trek a lot because it was completely apolitical. Just an action packed thrill of a ride
  • Khr'ell
    If you only want an "action-packed thrill ride"... Hollywood has plenty of mindless entertainment for the short attention-span set. Star Trek is the monster franchise it is with a rabid following for 40-plus years precisely because it isn't just about explosions and eye-candy. It's understandable that some of the suburban 2-digit IQ crowd had to be thrown a bone with the re-boot, now it's time to get back to what made Trek so great and respected. And don't get me wrong - Abram's film was great and managed to walk the perfect tightrope(make new fans, please old ones) that it had to. But to continue to dumb down future films make as much sense as making James Bond monogamous.
  • jasonjon1
    because the old trek only appealed to people with high IQs....don't be so arrogant. Remember that the average IQ is 100 so there aren't that many double digit IQ people out there.....besides average is still pretty smart most people who are ignorant are ignorant because they are lazy not stupid.. Your high and mighty attitude is the reason why there is no star trek on TV now. If it doesn't appeal to everyone it dies. Enterprise was a good show but most the time it was to far up its own ass to be interesting.
  • tolbert
    There needs to be relevance, yes, and that doesn’t mean it should be pretentious. If there are simple truths — truths connected to what we live — that elevates any story — that’s true with any story.

    Translation -

    It's going to blow chunks.
  • gerard
    The first one was political too, or it could be viewed that way. Remember when the Vulcan Science Academy's admissions department condescended to Spock and he bailed for an environment that was completely race-blind? Exactly not anything like Obama, and could be a comment on the difference between real merit and Establishment merit. And there's others.
  • cobalt_blue
    If you want to see Trek deal with modern and relevent issues: Forget J.J. Abrams. He's not the modern torchbearer of Roddenberr's Dream. That role belongs go the guys over at Star Trek Phase 2. Blood And Fire Part 1 and 2 are VERY relevent to modern times and is a fantastic piece of story telling.

    Abrams is likely to screw the whole thing up if he tries to get relevent to modern day.
  • existenz
    Global warming. Yay.

    I will say that Star Trek IV dealt with extinction and overfishing in a pretty smart manner, without turning it into a self-important film. Or at least, not so much that it overwhelmed the humor and adventure.
  • Is it really accurate to call it overfishing when they're hunting whales?

    And it did come off as pretty self-important.
  • fanboy_d
    good news, abrams is addressing pretty much the only complaint people had about the first movie :D
  • bartkida
    Bartkid sez,
    Through a 5-4 decision of the Federation's Supreme Court, Harry Mudd is named Federation President.
  • Evan
    I liked the first film a lot. I have a feeling they can approach it without being too heavy-handed. I am with Russ, though. I don't really care that much. Just standard adventure film would be fine by me.

    Khan perhaps?
  • Keep it simple, JJ. Tell you what - you can keep the lens falres if you don't try and get to extravagant with the sequel, ok? Just tell a kickass story and impress us all.
  • Trek 12.

    Trek 2 came out back in 82.

    Seriously, the writers sound like damn fools when they call it Trek 2.
  • Well, it's a reboot so I guess such logic doesn't work any more. It's confusing, sure, but I'm happier with Star Trek simply being called Star Trek instead of "Star Trek 11: Nemo Strikes Back" or something.
  • Recession on Earth? Immigration issues? Greedy defense contractors greasing the palms of the Federation elite? I got the impression that the federation of TOS was socialist in nature. Money wasn't an issue anymore. Don't get that idea with this version.
  • mbellerbrock
    You didn't just get the impression, it was socialist in nature, Picard says so in First Contact, and I recently read a quote from Rodenberry saying it was intended to be shortly into TOS.
  • Khr'ell
    Exactly.
  • Rob
    Last time I checked, all decent science fiction has something to say about the world in which we live, whether general or specific. It's kind of the point. Indeed, as far as Star Trek is concerned, isn't that element something many Trek fans often point to and enjoy? What's this foolish handwringing non-story about whether that makes it "pretentious" in aid of?

    If it means the people creating the next Star Trek film want it to be a solid sci-fi flick, that can only be a good thing. There can still be explosions as well, don't panic.. ;)
  • I'm of the feeling that the first film in many ways was attempting to be pointed allegory, albeit a scatterbrained one, but it is there for those who seek it. This is well aligned with Trek in general, so I feel this can work as long as they keep it fun and thoughtful.
  • rcesm
    The original Star Trek series always tackled then-current political topics and seemed to be able to do it well. The difference between doing it then and now is that now-a-days writers are too ambitious in their opinions; writing to convince an audience rather than to simplify or clarify. That's ultimately where they go wrong.

    That said, aren't there enough problems in the galaxy in THAT time? Do we really need to revisit our small Earth problems, when there's an entire galaxy to deal with? I'd much rather watch some fantastic ship battles and fight scenes in the name of exploration, than a political power struggle of sorts to control... dilithium crystals in a "region" of space. As an avid Star Trek fan, I don't want to see "green" starships...
  • All of those devices that TOS used were heavy-handed and really didn't age very well. People remember The Trouble with Tribbles and Sulu going crazy with a fencing sword. No one wants to remember the half black half white aliens.
  • erikphnx
    I know I am in the minority here but I thought the lens flare gave the film a distinct look. I hope it is not completely done away with for the next film.
  • quintushalls
    Please don't pull a Wall-e!
  • zoey
    public federation option.
  • drytoad1
    Whatever they do..... don't " find God " floating out in a galaxy somewhere.......
  • Merciful_budah
    It seems odd to report this as though it's news. As you said, this is hardly foreign territory (or even a neutral zone) for Star Trek. Watch it be (AND HERE COMES A SPOILER, SO STOP READING IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT YET. NO SERIOUSLY, THIS IS THE BIG ONE) racism against Spock and Uhura having a mixed relationship. I have some faith in Orci and Kurtzman on this project (they are some serious trekkies) but they really need to step things up a notch in this project. The first one was fun as hell, but that was all style and careermaking performances. The only credit the writers could take was the brilliant way they retained Nimoy in the new universe.

    I'd love to see Pine, Quinto, and Urban have a scene together worthy of their characters' Genesis conversation in Wrath of Khan.
  • dagreenman18
    I say they go to the past and try to save the whales.
  • AMR1960
    Better to go back into the past and save Liberals from Socialist Collectivism
  • Mike
    I have faith in Abrams, Orci and Kurtzman (although I am still waiting for an explanation/rationalization for T:RoTF. I am assuming blatant greed). I think the next Trek movie becoming more relevant can only be a good thing. The best Trek has always been about confronting moral/ethical/scientific paradoxes and questions - as the best sci-fi does. If they find the sweet-spot between Star Wars and BSG, they will have nailed it for me.
  • So... The Federation's in a recession.

    Great.
  • That sounds fantastic. Then we would bring in Michael Moore on the Enterprise to do some sleuthing. Unfortunetly, he's wearing a red jacket. Womp Womp.
blog comments powered by Disqus