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Our recap and mini-essay for last week’s Breaking Bad proved surprisingly popular. We’re glad to see so many /Film readers tuning in to this superb AMC series; it’s a show that frantically cooks up smart debate…as well as predictions for several main characters that are exceedingly bleak and exciting. Today, we discuss “Phoenix,” the 12th episode leading up to next Sunday’s whoa-insured finale. Beware of major spoilers below. Feel free to share your theories on the end of season two, or opinions on the show’s growing comparisons with The Wire, in the comments.

So, “Apology Girl” is dead. She leaves behind two men who love her, and one who…did not. Actress Krysten Ritter’s memorable role as Jane—the would-be Yoko between Walter White and Jesse Pinkman—turned out to be shorter and darker than her bangs. And as sinister as it may sound, many fans seem torn over whether Jane’s demise is a bad thing for Jesse and his future. Was this gorgeous 27-year-old destined to drag Jesse (and his $480K) on a doomed date with Mr. Brownstone? It seemed far more likely than the two of them eloping to New Zealand, where “they filmed Lord of the Rings.” But Jane’s death sparks an even bigger question: did Walter murder Jane?

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As pictured above, it was a scene so morally complex and chilling that we foresee it being debated in college courses on TV/film for years to come. Moreover, the icky ethical residue and raw vulnerability of the situation reminded me of class room discussions over the famous Sudan vulture photo by Kevin Carter. Opinions have varied so far. But Walt’s role in Jane’s death confirmed our sentiments last week that he’d finally crossed over to the dark side. We decided this after he chose to conduct a million-dollar meth deal over witnessing the birth of his daughter. That’s, um, low. This is lower. When it comes to cold-blooded murder, Walt has witnessed killings, he’s threatened to kill (Saul Goodman), and he’s killed to save his life (Krazy-8, s1, Tuco’s failed poisoning, s2). More recently, one of Walt and Jesse’s street dealers was gunned down by unknown assailants. We’re pretty sure Walt didn’t even send flowers to the funeral. But Jane’s death was nonpareil.

Ostensibly, Jane was not directly involved in the unwritten die-by-the-sword ethos of drug-dealing. And…oh yeah, Walt not only watched her die, he not only chose not to help her: he accidentally caused her to die. Let’s first look at what got him there (besides meth and hubris, of course).

Walt breaks back into Jesse’s apartment and finds the lovers predictably lost in another drug-induced slumber. Unlike his prior break-in in the last episode, this time Walt aspires to reach out to Jesse. He’s making a desperate, admirable attempt to have a sobering and profound peptalk. “Phoenix” is an episode that focuses deeply on the definition of “family.” Before Walt enters the apartment we see him decide—even reach the epiphany—about the guy. Jesse is beyond being a partner in “fat stacks, yo,” an immature best friend, a slow apprentice, a former slacker student. He’s like “a nephew” to Walt.

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This is a big change in Walt’s direction from the prior episode, “Mandala,” which saw him ready to end the partnership on his path to strict “professionalism.” Here, Walt again attempts to wake Jesse up by shaking him. But by doing this, he inadvertently moves Jane onto her back, into the exact position she warned Jesse about before they shot up. Take note that Walt carefully placed his new baby daughter on her side in the cradle earlier in the ep. And in another cruel bit of irony, it is Jane’s father—Walt randomly meets him at a bar—who unknowingly spurs Walt’s empathy for Jesse. The advice of Jane’s father ultimately lead to his daughter’s death. Haunting. Before Walt leaves to find Jesse, Jane’s father even extends an affable shrug on how to raise his new baby daughter.

Minutes later, Jane is choking on her own vomit. The camera closes in on Walt, who stands inches away. The expression on Bryan Cranston’s face coveys a a thousand of them: shock, sorrow, disgust, horror, panic, and a tinge of something completely fucked. Macabre glee? Morose satisfaction? Once gain, we see the cold calculations of the drug game manifest on Walt’s face. And as these formulas blanket his paranoia, Walt’s eyes begin to tear: Another enemy bites the dust.

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Like Walt, we hardly knew Jane, and clearly he began to suspect the worst. After Jane called him at home, spoke politely to his wife, and then threatened to rat him out to the police (and the local news) and destroy him unless he handed over Jesse’s share, his stance was justified. Before the call, Jane was a peripheral stranger, a “junkie girlfriend.” With the conversation she quickly climbed up/down the ladder to become another adversary. Her death is the convenient termination of a threat to Walt’s business and his expanding fam—immediate (new baby) and distant (Jesse). But what now?

We assume that Walt quickly exits the apartment, leaving Jesse to wake up and find his girlfriend dead in the bedroom with that impossibly hefty bag of money. In the short-term (and long?) will Jane’s death quicken Jesse’s downward spiral, or will it scare him out of it? Also, we all saw the look of terror on Jesse’s face when Jane’s dadactor John de Lancieburst into his place and dialed the police, before the couple agreed to enter rehab. It’s unlikely that Jesse will now call the cops to report her death. But if so, will he clean up the bedroom beforehand, including the needle on the nightstand, among other things, that Walt has touched? Also, the back door to Jesse’s apartment has been broken into, further complicating any swift explanation. Either way, Jane’s father will not just disappear. Who can Jesse call? My guess: Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk, killing it) knows “a guy who knows a guy.”

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Skyler and Ted and the Baby

After completing his million dollar transaction with the mysterious Gus at the start—did anyone else see the teddy bear?—Walt rushes to the hospital to meet his wife Skyler (actress Anna Gunn). He enters her room and is so quick with an apology/excuse that he overlooks the baby (named Holly) altogether. And then he remembers. And for once, Walt’s feelings and emotions seem genuine on the surface and beneath, past the thick facade he’s created for Heisenberg. It’s a bittersweet introduction. Skyler’s boss, Ted Beneke (actor Christopher Cousins), is standing silently behind them, watching with that hesitant twinkle in his eye. Pause. Skyler cheerfully informs Walt that Ted not only drove her to the hospital, he almost had to deliver the baby. Walt is polite but noticably short with this lesser. And then Ted kisses Skyler on the cheek, as she fawns all over him, either too tired or too doting to notice Walt’s unease. A Ted Talk is long overdue.

Back in the comfort of his home—new security system on the way?—Walt’s first bonding moment on screen and alone with his baby is just as irksome. He takes her into the room where his monies are stashed under fuzzy, baby-pink insulation. He cooes to her in private that he made all of this money for her. It’s digusting, and from the sound of his voice, one truly hopes that Walt isn’t getting a hard-on as he’s spouting this shit. In his mind, this money makes him a man, the biggest, baddest man in his and his little girl’s world. You wonder if his baby will even grow-up to know him; the future crammed in the wall is Walt’s, even as he professes that it’s hers.

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Walter Jr. and The Internet

The most underdeveloped character on Breaking Bad is Walt’s son, Walter Jr. aka Flynn (actor RJ Mitte). To such an extent, that some fans are already predicting his death next Sunday. But this is a show where everyone’s number could be up. In “Phoenix,” Flynn’s latest endearing if unsuccessful attempt to get his father’s attention and become a man of the house might get them both killed.

The website that Flynn has created (in 10 mins?) contains numerous family photos, now public for the world to see. The site also shamelessly has a PayPal button for donations to Walt’s cancer treatment…

Design Snob Note: Flynn urgently needs to pay a visit to /Film 3.0 the next time he decides to create a website—CHECK OUTSAVEWALTERWHITE.COM, it’s real! Somehow this wizard forgot to insert some Blingee.

Walt seems more stricken with the donation option than with the photos—growling the word “charity” at Skyler in a halfhearted justification for taking the website down. This web exposure is, er, not good. It’s equivalent to Jesse becoming a local rapper, but inexplicably worse. And as glimpsed in next Sunday’s finale, the local media hops all over it, putting the family and their story on camera. Walt is shown sitting on his couch in front of a reporter. If a man can combust due to false notions of emasculation, we’ll see it here.

One might think that the website would make Walt’s lawyer, Saul Goodman, do a spit-take. But Saul loves the site. Another one of his characteristic lightbulbs goes off and flickers with evil. Saul suggests they intricately launder Walt’s $480K through the site’s PayPal via “a hacker” he knows. Hilarious. And terrifying. Again, we have no friggin’ clue how creator Vince Gilligan will keep this series going for two more seasons as planned. Maybe it ends with Saul naked in Tahiti.

The Body Bags

With one episode left in the season, the question that no one knows the answer to: Whose dead bodies are shored up at the Whites’ residence in the finale? Is Jane’s body transported there? Will Jesse OD and end up beside her? Will Hank have the showdown of showdowns? Will Walt be forced to fake his death. Or will Skyler and Walt Jr. finally serve as tragic collateral damage? Perhaps the body bags contain parts of Ted after Walt finally snaps. Also, how does the teddy bear get from here to there, thus implicating Gus? If our brains regroup after the last episode, we’ll dive into the answers. In the meantime, what say you?

Breaking Bad airs Sundays at 10 p.m. ET/PT on AMC. For Hunter’s wrap-up and mini-essay on the previous episode of Breaking Bad, “Mandala,” click here.

Hunter Stephenson can be reached at h.attila[at]gmail.com and on Twitter.

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  • Doug
    What REALLY happened I NEVER SAW COMING! I can't WAIT till season 3!
  • angie
    this is the greatest series of all time; better than the sopranos. the acting is the best i've ever seen; i'm 68 years old and have seen a lot of acting. my first glimpse of the extraordinary actor bryan cranston was in the series malcom in the middle. he was great then and is greater now.
  • Heisenberg2206
    I am thinking maybe the water heating system blows up killing Walter Jr and baby Holly. Lord i hope i am wrong.
  • Dr. D
    Hmmm...

    Regarding the body bags.....

    Another remote possibility is related to another thread regarding Ted... Remember that Skyler knows about the "cooked books" he has been keeping that could destroy his business, and possibly place him in prison on Federal charges for white collar crime (e.g., income tax evasion, etc.).

    Could the combination of his unfulfilled longing for Skyler, compiled with her knowledge of his secrets, lead Ted to a more violent manifestation of his "dark side"?

    Thoughts?
  • Phil
    I'm baffled for sure. Its very interesting to read all the theories from viewers as to who ends up in the body bags. Some say Hank. I'm just not real sure where his character is going at this point. Hank definitely has some things going on that have not been explained enough. Having a spell in the elevator, his episode in the desert, waking up in a panic state as his beer bottles were exploding. I think that Walt is beginning to despise Hank. Could it be that Hank is a pompous jerk at times, or has Walt completely crossed over to the dark side and views all law enforcement as the sworn enemy, or maybe he is sure that a showdown between them is inevitable. Remember their scene at the celebration party by the pool? Hank may not be in one of the body bags----this time. But he will sooner of later and it will be at the hands of Walt.
  • Jason A.
    Considering the burn marks on the floating teddy bear in the pool, I think Walt may have either messed up the installation of his new gas water heater and it explodes, or it is tampered with. Also, his glasses in the evidence bag is interesting, too. Not a clue who is in the body bags. Everyone's predictions seem pretty sound. Jane's father seems like an interesting scenario, though. Hmmm....

    Definitely a gas explosions is the cause of death, though...
  • Brian
    As you Hunter I found myself picking up on things as the final scene progressed. Jane rolling onto her back (which looked kind of exaggerated truthfully) and Walt touching the syringe. I found myself yelling at the screen "don't touch it you dingbat!"

    I have to challenge a quote from your post though, respectfully of course:
    "But Walt’s role in Jane’s death confirmed our sentiments last week that he’d finally crossed over to the dark side."
    Specifically the "dark side" portion. Now this may open up a huge can of worms but can we really call it the "dark side" in this instance? I suppose this opens up debate on Dexter and maybe even Seven Pounds, but can we call it the "dark side" or can we call it right?
    I'm not trying to say it was right for him to leave her, but rather...he's trying to help Jesse now (or so we can assume) and is that not right? Well it's a mind scrambler that's for sure.
    If someone is to agree that it has no sense of righteousness they must also wholeheartedly feel that what Dexter and what was done in Seven Pounds have done is wrong.

    I thoroughly enjoy hearing what you have to say in your posts Hunter, and must thank you for posting these topics for people to think on. Looking forward to more!
  • DC4Cx2
    Good questions.

    This show and Dexter and such are all exploring the idea of what makes people bad (or good). Do their actions? What about their intentions? These shows revel in creating grey areas all around to challenge the viewer to decide. Just like in real life.

    If a likeable character does reprehensible things to help their family or friends, does it make those actions ok? At what point does the 'level of bad' outway any 'good' that comes from the actions?

    The greeks were really good at this kind of drama too...
  • Jason
    I think that killing Jesse or Walt will hurt the show if not kill it completely. The characters are too important, too central. Like the killing of Christopher of the Sopranos once he was gone the show quickly followed. Yea the end of the sopranos was already thought up but if it was not I believe, better yet KNOW,the show would not be on today.____ And for a show with at least two more seasons in the works it would be impossible for them to kill of Walt or Jesse.
  • next week is going to be serious business... i dont even have a clue who could be in the bodybags, plus, at walts house? and the HUGE crimescene in his backyard? holyyy shitt.
    my prediction is jesse will show up, raging about jane, they will fight, walt jr will get shot on accident, walt will rage hard as hell and kill jesse. oh lawd.

    edit: i am changing my theory from jesse to jane's dad. but same situation.

    very nice writeup, btw.
  • bubbajosh
    Thank you for seriously writing one of the best reviews of anything I've read here on Slashfilm...especially for a TV show. It was the closest to the thorough reviews and analyses found on the /Filmcast.

    Breaking Bad is seriously the best show on TV right now; definitely my favorite. Cranston really brings a lot of great acting chops to the role of Walt. And "Phoenix" added so much more character development to him and Jesse both. I can't believe an earlier poster said they couldn't finish season 1 because of the characters. Guess it wasn't their cup o' tea.

    I have a few ideas of who's in the body bags, but I'm sure it's not going to be Skylar or Hank. My theory is some sort of backlash will come from the "rivals" who gunned down Combo; perhaps Gus is affiliated with them in some indirect way? Some sort of explosion happens...we've seen what Walt can do with a few basic chemicals and that's definitely a possibility...

    ...but I can't trust that damn water-heater for the life of me.
  • SamIAm
    What is up with the Jane hate? Poisonous to Jessie?

    You do realize Jessie is one screwed up drug addict. His downward spiral was working just fine before and after she showed up. Hell, she at least tried to talk him into rehab after getting the money. Jane clearly had some inkling of desire to be clean - Jessie showed no such desire throughout season 2.
  • I see her trying to get them into rehab as the last legs of her clean self before she completely fell off the wagon. She had the potential to help Jesse out, which is what made her so great when she first appeared. The reason I see her as "poisonous" is because, once she went back to her old ways, she became a much more menacing and overbearing person that saw a situation she knew next to nothing about and tried to exploit it. You can't even blame Jesse for her relapse, seeing as he was willing to deal with his drug problem without her.
  • justinlecair
    She was selfish and evil. Cheers to Walt!!! I thought the scene was similar to Batman refusing to save Rhas Al Ghul in Batman Begins only much more powerful. Incredible show!!!
  • Annoyed
    Christ - are people really this stupid? Watch the damn show.

    Jane was a drug addict. Jessie was a drug addict. They fell in love and were very bad for each other. She did not make him do anything he didn't want. Neither did he for her. She was not anymore selfish or evil than any of the other main characters on this show (who are all selfish and increasingly evil - that why it's called Breaking Bad).

    The twisted, dark irony (which this show is full of) is that everyone's actions, even the good intentioned ones, doomed Jane (and Jessie in the long run). Jane's actions. Jessie's actions. Dad's actions. And most definitely Walt's actions.

    This is a very dark show about human frailty and the consequences of our choices in life.

    It's an insult to compare it to a cartoon like Batman Begins. It's a bigger insult to cheer on Walt's behavior as he becomes a monster.
  • cHRIS
    THE PEOPLE IN THE BODY BAGS ARE THE TWO DRUG DEALERS THAT GOT THAT KID TO SHOOT hIZENBERGES ACCOMPLICE
  • I'm predicting Skyler and Ted in the bags. That way, next season, Walt is forced to stay not just in business, but alive. Walt has come to the dark side, yes, but this is his series; he'll die at the end, (or live, if he has a big enough reckoning) but if Skyler gives in to temptation with Ted, (taking a note from Greek tragedy here) then she's doomed herself to die. We'll know next week.
  • Fourthman
    AMCTV.com has minor spoilers in their blurb for next week. In light of that info, I'm predicting Donald (Jane's father) in bag one and Skyler or Jane bag two.
  • I love dark shows but I couldn't get past the first season of this one. I just really didn't care for the characters.
    Will be getting a talk back on "Glee" which was widely reviewed favorably last week by most critics. Didn't see anything here about it.
  • Sid
    I love this show. I think Cranston does an amazing job playing the character. His performance is 20 folds better compared to the goofy dad from Malcom in the middle. The acting all around is pretty solid. I can't wait for the season finale next week. My prediction is that there is some form of an explosion at Walt's house... maybe from the newly installed water heater?? I have no idea... and that's why this show is so brilliant. No one really knows who it is for sure.

    Hunter, I like the mini reviews quite a bit. I also think you should do the same for Mad Men and Dexter as well. All three are very well written shows that deserve much more attention then they are getting.
  • @skaught

    Hey thanks. I didn't know how much crossover existed with our readership, but clearly there is a demand. Great to see. The conversation amongst commenters is awesome.

    I'll consider posting similar ep-wrap articles when Mad Men begins its 3rd season. If there is another series you'd like to see more coverage of on /Film, let us know.

    @ Rescue Me Fans

    A few of you are extremely vocal and virulent/scary, Ha. Keep in mind that I am not dissing your show when I write-up episodes of Breaking Bad. I've only seen a few eps at most, so I don't have an opinion on it either way.
  • Dave
    There were two lines of dialogue from Jane that struck me like a hammer. First was when she told Walt to "do right by Jesse". How prophetic, he did decide to do right by Jesse and that including letting her take herself out of the picture. It's obvious Walt viewed her as a liability to both Jesse and himself and he also realized that as long as she was in the picture, Jesse's chances of getting clean were virtually nil.
    The second was when Jane saw the money and declared "do you know what this means to ME?" Not us, me. At that point she showed her true colors and Jesse should have realized that she may have enjoyed his company but it was the money that motivated her. Notice that she was the one threatening Walt and even when Jesse decided to confront him in the classroom he still referred to him as Mr. White.. She pissed off Heisenberg and that's not something one does and lives to tell about it. .As far as the two bodies, we already know Walt and Jesse have been contracted for next season so it can't be them, but it can indeed be Walter Jr. and Skyler. Don't forget about the new gas water heater and it's potential for an explosion/fire.
  • SamIAm
    Good point on the first line. Disagree on the second. I read her reference to 'me' as 'I can be free from my Dad and live the life I want - with you Jessie - who my Dad will never let me be with.'

    She did push Walt harder than Jessie ever did, but that was just because Jessie saw Walt as his teacher. She had no connection to Walt that would garner respect. Just saw him pushing Jessie around and making him miserable.

    Finally, Heisenberg did not have a 'piss him off and don't live to tell about it' reputation (even with the Season 1 stuff with Tuco). As this blog notes, Walt is now on that dark side, finding his inner Scarface. But only because of this event, not before it.
  • Great review. Breaking Bad is surely the best show on TV. That was one of the greatest hours of television i've ever seen and maybe the darkest. The ending has haunted me since i watched it. I've got no idea how this show will end next week.
  • Rich
    Great show. Jane (you ignorant slut) deserved to die. But so did Jesse. Walt should have aced him out too and took the $480K
  • SamIAm
    Some people have no irony-meter. Watch the show again and read the article above again...the Jane/Dad/Jessie/Walt quartet was spinning with tragic irony. The money is just the mcguffin in the last few eps.
  • Walter White is a complex and dense character, and Bryan Cranston pulls it off like nobody's business. His performance throughout the show has been mammoth. How he went from the guy who just wanted to leave something for his family, to a guy who LET A GIRL DIE?

    Also, He should totally play Lex Luthor.
  • SamIAm
    Or Darth Vader. Cranston is showing the descent of a once good man into absolute darkness better than George Lucas could ever have imagined for Anakin Skywalker.

    Wonder if Walt will get his Return of the Jedi moment before all is said and done.
  • I don't know who is going to be in the body bags, but nobody is getting shot.

    Why would all that shit end up in the pool, some of it seemingly burnt, if people were only shot? Nah. There's going to be an explosion of some sort. Maybe some people recognize Walt (The two cookers from the hardware store perhaps...) from the TV, they go to his house, force him to show them how to cook that meth, when Walt pulls a "Hesienberg" on them and kills 'em by causing the meth to explode.

    Maybe that won't happen, but I think that the explosion thing is something to look into. Again, why would all of that shit be in the pool?
  • Agreed. Change the site name to breakingslashfilmbad.com
  • I agree, because I'm really hating slashtwitterfilm.com right now.
  • mitch
    Great episode and great write up. I'm going to say that the bodies are perhaps henchmen of Gus, and Walt is pleading with them when out of nowhere, Walt Jr takes the gun that Walt had in the box with the cash earlier in the season and shoots the dealers. Just a prediction, probably won't happen. There's no way that there's a better show on TV right now, the scene with Jane's father absolutely blew my mind and Bryan Cranston is an amazing actor.
  • skaught
    you should have kept these going all season long, hunter. they're fantastic. i hope this energy can be focused on similar write-ups for films/television shows that aren't breaking bad when the season finally ends.
  • This episode was awesome, and the review was done amazingly. I personally think that the people who shot down the street dealer, and/or the people involved in the huge meth deal from the beginning of the episode, will make some sort of attack on Walt's house (after seeing him on the news) at the end of the season finale, but will be shot down (literally as well as figuratively) by Hank and his DEA buddies, who will most likely have been tipped off to the event. That, or he will just have been in the house at the time. While there may be an important character who ends up biting the bullet, I think most of the casualties will be from other drug dealers that we have yet to be introduced to.
    I have no solid predictions about Jane or the baby, but I'm sure there will be many twists. That, and I'm glad Jane is gone. While she started out with a lot of human compassion, she became more and more poisonous to Jesse as the series went on, and any small hints of compassion that appeared towards her end were just the fickle remains of her downward spiral.
  • Drew
    Great write up. I've been obsessed with this show since the first season and I think this second season has been amazing. But I do have a thought on your last piece, about the bodybags -- I'm not sure that situation is exactly cut and dry as you assume. The way they've been teasing us with the cold openings all season -- showing us a bit more from the scene each time -- tells me the writers want the viewers to jump to their own conclusions, only to have all their assumptions and explanations blown out of the water. Certainly something has happened at Walter's home, but I don't know if it's exactly what we're all expecting. It's too easy.
  • Mike
    Extraordinarily excited for the finale. Phoenix was one of the best episodes of television I've ever seen.
  • After this weeks episode i think that the body bags are of Jane and her dad, and that Walter has something to do with Jane's Father demise too (if it happens) but maybe it is someone close to Walter his son, Hank or sister in law.

    http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/05/25/breaking-bad-ph...
  • Great review on this episode. I love this show and can not wait to see what's going to happen next.
  • Apollo
    I love the show and the writing is absolutely amazing. In the scene where Jane is dieing, I was personally hoping he wouldn't save her. I love the character Jesse, and she was a real thorn/gold digger in his side. I wonder what they will do though with the Jesse character now that Jane is dead. it will be interesting to see.

    I also wonder what Jesse will do when he inevitably finds out Walt could have saved her, and accidentily caused her death.
  • Bitch had to go. One way or another, she had to go.
  • WordYo
    Bullshit. This one is all on Jessie and Walt. Jessie is not some innocent kid here - he kept using even after learning she was in rehab. He was falling in love with her, but not enough to stop smoking. He wanted what she brought with the heroin. Hello - they were both addicts.

    And she was not a gold digger - she didn't know about the money when hooking up with Jessie. And once they got the money, it was her idea to go to rehab before blowing all the cash. It was the one last hit they couldn't resist together.

    And Walt did murder her - at least negligent homicide in not helping when she vomited and chocked to death. This blog is spot on - he went over to the dark side with that act.

    It will be interesting to see 'fan' reactions as the main characters continue to 'break bad'. Already people online are trying to defend Jessie and Walt and blame others for their actions. Jessie and Walt are bringing all the pain on themselves right now and on their loved ones.

    There really are no protagonists in this show (even moreso than the Sopranos)...makes for an interesting online fan culture.
  • Why is what I said bullshit? I was referring to the fact that she threatened White. Nobody threatens White and gets away with it... I stand by my original comment. No matter what else happened, she threatened White, and for that she became a liability. She had to go.
  • willclay
    Fantastic review on the episode. It's great to see that I'm not the only one who appreciates this show. Now if only others can see the same in Dexter ...
  • max
    I am a big fan of both shows, Breaking Bad is actually darker than Dexter in my opinion, especially after this eisode
  • I'm a fan of Dexter, but when compared to Breaking Bad, it just doesn't stand up.
  • Brian
    I have to disagree. At least with the first season and possibly the second of Dexter. You see Dexter as told originally by the book is superb. The intellectual mindset and absolutely insane back and forth notion of good and evil is enough to make anyone with a brain that works go crazy haha.
    Now this isn't bashing Breaking Bad because it is also superb. So Dexter, in the first and second season can definitely stand up to Breaking Bad.

    I just hope...wish...want them not to ruin such a good thing as Breaking Bad like the third season of Dexter. Have hopes for the fourth but who knows.

    It's a very very tough choice to say which is better, and I don't know if it's possible to say one is better than the other (again only considering the first 2 seasons)
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