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Which is better, Alien or Aliens? Well, I can answer that one for you - it’s Alien. But Aliens is rather special too. Just not, you know, most-important-film-of-the-70s special.

There is now a new chapter in the give and take between Ridley Scott and James Cameron, however. The BFI here in good ol’ Blighty (that’s what the B stands for) had a Blade Runner day at the weekend and while I didn’t go along myself - shame on me - a good handful of reporters were handy. One of them managed to get down Scott’s key quote on his upcoming sci-fi actioner, and how Avatar has inspired him to shoot it in 3D.

I’m filming a book by Joe Haldeman called Forever War. I’ve got a good writer doing it. I’ve seen some of James Cameron’s work, and I’ve got to go 3D. It’s going to be phenomenal.

London’s Wharf got that dish, giving some of my London chums something sexy to read on the light railway this morning.

I don’t know much about Haldeman or this Forever War, but Ridley Scott doing 3D? He could be adapting the Dick and Jane elementary learner books or Monopoly or something silly like that and I’d still be at the front of the line.

Speculate now, if you would, on who this ‘good writer’ that Scott mentioned might be. I immediately assumed William Monahan, but I think he has other things on. Whoever has the job, I hope they keep the first line of the novel because it’s a doozy:

Tonight we’re going to show you eight silent ways to kill a man.

Eight silent ways to kill a man! In 3D! Box office gold! Even in an anti-war film!

Apparently, the 1974 novel was deeply inspired by the Vietnam scenario. Things being what they are, however, it can’t fail to be relevant now. Forever War indeed.

Note: the image at the head of the post comes from the 80s, when Forever War was almost adapted as a mini-series for PBS. Really.

  • sweeeeet.
  • sweet indeed!!
  • to me, bladerunner is one of the very best sci-fi's out there.. i admire ridley and his great respect of dvd extra's too XD XD XD
  • My new Pep Pep
    A good writer and a great director = epic moive?
  • i am READING THE FOREVER WAR RIGHT NOW, ALMOST DONE, IT IS INCREDIBLE GREAT STUFF!
  • forever war was an amazing novel. If Ridley Scott does it, you guys will be in for a real treat. Its a much more realistic science fiction film in the vein of 2001.
  • I like the novel, I want a good work with it.
  • Finally RIdley Scott is returning to sci fi. This will be amazing.
  • If Avatar is as innovative as everyone says it is this is only the beginning.
  • Count me in!
  • freemachine
    8 silent ways to kill? Pssshhaawww. I know the secret 9th way....and it involves bean burritos....
  • brad
    Hey man, the first rule of fart club is, you don't talk about fart club.
  • Cat
    Sounds phat! Don't let us down.
  • GregoryV
    I just pee'd in my pants. Ridley Scott's Forever War in 3D is going to be epic.
  • Just wanted to point out that there is no way Alien is the most important movie of the 70s.
  • boby s
    you can't make a statement like Alien is the most important film of the 70s and not back it up or explain why!

    godfather 1, godfather 2, apocalypse now, chinatown, etc. etc. etc.
  • boby s
    you can't make a statement like Alien is the most important film of the 70s and not back it up or explain why!
  • Alright, I'll explain why. Soon. In a news post.
  • Rob Frenay
    Man I've heard a lot of incorrect opinions on the internet in my day, but this has to be one of the most just blatantly, unbearably wrong opinions ever to be typed, uttered, or yes, even considered.
  • Hey man I may not agree but A LOT of folks like Alien.
  • This gets me even more psyched for Avatar.
  • Just about to say pretty much the same thing. Plus it's just a good move in general.
  • Agreed. This sounds awesome.
  • Wait, wasn't Ridley on tap to do Brave New World? In any case this won't be out for at least 3-4 years.
  • How many films does Ridley Scott have in him? He's over 70 years he old be better get crackin.
  • Alien>Aliens
  • Jones
    Forever War is one of the best military science fiction books of all time. Ranks up there with Heinlein's Starship Troopers, which was much different from the book. Been waiting years for this to get made, glad to see Ridley Scott will be doing it.
  • Weyland_Yutani
    Forever War is a great book that may translate very well to film. Exciting the Ridley Scott has taken it on.

    I always felt that Starship Troopers never had a strong narrative for the action. The book just sort of tosses out bits and pieces in between Heinlein's political bits. I actually think The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, with a stronger narrative, will someday make a far better film.
  • Jones
    True, good point, but you have to admit the opening action scene would be mindblowing to watch on film. I do think the politics of Starship Troopers would be interesting, especially today, but your point about the action and narrative is spot on.
  • i haven watched a 3d movie in the theatres ever.
    do they give out those uncomfortable red and green glasses to these new 3d films or what?
  • Brad
    No. The red and green glasses have gone the way of the dodo. The new glasses look pretty much like cheap sunglasses with gray lenses.
  • G
    I just picked up Forever War after reading about Ridley Scott's involvement. Looks great so far. I'm hoping this tech also allows another great science fiction novel adaptation to finally get moving: Rendezvous With Rama. Morgan Freeman has had the rights for years, probably waiting for the tech (and the audience) to be ready. Fingers crossed for both projects.
  • markahall
    rama good frvr war way harder to put on screen ...in a way that ......does not go the way of a......charlie sheen bimbo pilot .....mind reading doogie houser....
  • 3D gives me a damn headache. I still don't see how it enhances the process of TELLING A STORY any different than on a 2D screen. It's like selling a comic as a f*ucking pop-up book. Pointless.
  • Amen.
  • Ridley Scott used to be the man but lately he comes across as behind the curve and starving for an Oscar.
  • you can too say that Alien was the most important sci-fi film of the 70s.
  • Right on. Also, Hollywood. Start doing good plots and worry about colour and sound and 24 frames after!

    Also, I assume me and you agree that "16x9" is a gimmick and that 4:3 was superior!
  • I don't see how colour enhances the progression of the story.
  • exorcissy72
    You could certainly argue that, but I'd argue that 3D as it is right now, is really obnoxiously 3D, it's annoying that things fly right at you, and in a kids film or a schlocky horror film, I guess it works. But in a serious movie? Here's a question for you, would "The Dark Knight" be a better movie in 3D?
  • Who said anything about colour enhancing the progress of a story? Are you trying to imply that colour was once considered a 'gimmick'? Because of all the gimmicks that were always going to be natural progression, colour was one. Newspapers started printing colour. Storybooks. Photographs. It was universal. I don't see the photo lab offering me 3d photos every time I want some photos printed? Why? Because that would be a lame gimmick...
  • markahall
    ahhhhhhhh hmmm it was called .....tech ni clr.....say it fast
  • 790
    No I don't watch any 3-D films, so I'm out ,,,

    3-D is the new marketing tactic of the future.
  • Weyland_Yutani
    Yes. Bring on the Alien posts.

    The subjective word is "important." If by "important" you mean entertaining, lasting, influential, and immitated, I can see an argument. It will be highly criticized and contested by Godfather snobbery, but I think this argument can be made. It's in my all-time top 5, so I must agree on some level. Important to me? No doubt.
  • Star Wars.
  • Gennaro Gattuso
    Hope that's a deadpan joke and not a serious claim.
  • If you know anything about anything, you know it was not a joke.
  • Gennaro Gattuso
    So anyone who thinks The Godfather is a better film than Alien is a snob? That's an interesting opinion, son.

    Still, call me crazy, but your screen-name kinda suggests you're not exactly unbiased here.
  • Weyland_Yutani
    You have to remember that "better" wasn't the topic Brendon brought up.
  • Weyland_Yutani
    I don't see that at all. What do you mean by "behind the curve" anyway? He's returning to science fiction with films like Forever War and BNW. Hardly Oscar bait. This is the same genre that he has managed a few films that are considered classics. I'm actually surprised he's so ambitious still.
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