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I’ve seen Watchmen but I can’t tell you anything about it. I’m under an incredibly strict embargo and will suffer severely should I even so much as drop an emoticon on the subject.

Amongst the other lucky fellows to see the film were 300 MTV viewers, taking part in the recording of their Spoilers show. After seeing the film on Wednesday night they were then treated to a live Q&A with Zack Snyder, during which he spilled some saucy, saucy beans. VH1 have reported on the event, and I’ll drop the big quotes below the break.

“The director’s cut is three hours and 10 minutes and comes out in July,” Snyder revealed, calling his original edit “considerably more violent than this … and sexier” and explaining that if the movie does well, the director’s cut will get a theatrical release in Los Angeles and New York.

Following that, of course, will be the Watchmen DVD in the fall — which will include what he dubbed a “Crazy Ultimate Freaky Edition” boasting such time-omitted extras as Tales of the Black Freighter, Hollis Mason’s death, more Manhattan moments on Mars and dialogue-heavy scenes with the newsstand-bonding Bernies.

Collider has confirmed that the directors cut will be three hours and ten minutes in length and that the “Crazy Ultimate Freaky Edition” will be three hours and 25 minutes long. Sounds good, huh? Perhaps it is. Or perhaps Watchmen isn’t worth any of your anticipation at all. I mean… can Alan Moore and Dave Gibbon’s masterwork truly be done justice in a single movie?

My review will come the very second the embargo is lifted. Why hold it back any longer? I wish I could run it now.

Don’t forget that the theatrical release of the director’s cut depends on a grand performance by the first theatrical version. Vote with your wallets. Or, of course, you could argue that keeping back the (supposedly) superior version and telling you’d have to pay twice - or at least sit on your hands a while - to access it is a deeply cynical and hideously commercial move on the part of Warner Bros. and just boycott the ploy altogether.

Looks to me like the great Director’s Cut scam is being warmed over again. Do you accept Warner Bros. giving us just a snipped-down first run?

Spoilers is airing on MTV in the US this Saturday at 8pm and there’s likely to be much more from Snyder then.

UPDATE: Tales of the Black Freighter will last 24 mins, 28 seconds and 11 frames in its stand alone version, so obviously some of that will be left out in the amalgamated edit. The Culpeper Minute - Under the Hood will run 35 minutes, 53 seconds and 4 frames.

  • Dan W
    Taking into account the fact that a lot of people going to see the movie have never read to novel or know little about it. It makes sense that the directors cut is not shown first. I am happy that at least there is a plan for it to be in theaters. Ususally we have to wait till the DVD to get a directors cut. I see nothing wrong with having the theatrical version come out first. It is the way it has always been. But I WILL be there for the directors cut in NY!!
  • It's unfortunate, from a fanboy perspective, that the full "crazy freaky" cut isn't being released first-run in theaters. However, can you really expect the general public to sit through all of that? As a more recent example, even more wide-appeal fare like "Benjamin Button" had a lot of complaints over it's nearly 3-hour length, let alone 3.5.

    No, the full cut is meant for the fans and the fans alone. That and we're not being that cheated; the full cut is, theatrically, only coming out in LA and NY and will eventually be out on DVD for us to enjoy on our home entertainment systems anyway!

    And really I wouldn't see the point of boycotting the inital release in the slightest. What would be the point of holding back revenue on the initial release? As if that's going to show WB it's worth it to them to release the full cut? Come on, now.
  • markappleyard
    AHHHHH YOU HAVE SEEN IT
  • There's no reason that a virgin audience won't accept, and even prefer, the director's cut over the shorter one.
  • Totally agree. I'm not sure however that a virigin audience would like or understand the addition of the Black Freighter stuff in the Ultimate cut.
  • Well we have all been expecting the double dip. I am glad to hear we won't have to wait that long to get a glimpse at it... But something kind of bothers me in the article, is the Hollis Mayson death scene not in the movie?!?
  • Lee
    I just don't like the idea that every friggin movie these days has a theatrical cut, an unrated cut, and a directors cut. I can't imagine seeing the theatrical cut of Watchmen being 'ok' and then paying to see the directors cut months later and be like 'wow, this is soooo much better'. Why can't directors just make a movie and be done with it. Stanley Kubrick never made multiple versions of his film, then again he fought the studios hard his whole life.

    Maybe I'm wrong, Bladerunner final cut was certainly better than the theatrical release...
  • Liquid Spark
    That's kinda BS IMHO. The people who go to see the movie on opening day are the fans. Why do they get the edited version? I've been so waiting for this movie but this really pissed me off. I'm don't even want to see the edited version.
  • Its not the reason for extra info and footage, but there are a lot of people out there that wont see a movie that's more than 3 hours, even less. People get way too antsy, but that sucks on their part. Long movies are the best kind of movies!!
  • But it is based on source material that felt need to include it. The books also did not have a built in fan base when released, from what I can tell.
  • Yep, I think you're right there.

    This is looking like a /Film love in. Ahem.
  • FreedomPopular
    My concern exactly.

    Why would they cut Hollis Mason's death from the theatrical cut? It's such a powerful moment in the novel.
  • I have yet to read the graphic novelm but i'm eagerly anticipating the movie because of what everyone else is saying about it. I would wanna wait for a longer cut of the movie since to get more of what I missed in the novel, but It's gonna be hard or impossible for me not to see it the first release.
  • First of all, damn you Brendon for getting to see it early :) Secondly, this is a naked cash grab by the studio. They are trying to sucker us geeks into paying for the same thing at least 5 times. 1. Theatrical release. 2. Tales of the Black Freighter. 3. Theatrical director's cut. 4. Blu-ray/DVD. 5. Super-duper Blu-ray/DVD with the other 4 things combined.
  • "I’ve seen Watchmen but I can’t tell you anything about it. I’m under an incredibly strict embargo and will suffer severely should I even so much as drop an emoticon."

    Pfft, you just want to gloat you've seen Watchmen. ;)
  • that's what she said
  • "...perhaps Watchmen isn’t worth any of your anticipation at all. I mean… can Alan Moore and Dave Gibbon’s masterwork truly be done justice in a single movie?"

    Are you trying to hint that it doesn't live up to the hype or that it won't live up to individuals personal anticipations?
  • Yeah, I mean like I am sure Zack Snyder didn't want to cut it but he probably had too. I just hope there are some Hollis scenes in the movie, but I also don't want them to feel random. I'm not mad that its not in the movie but it would have been nice, Mason is a really good character.
  • Just asking a question. I tried to swing both towards negative AND positive because I can't publish anything like a review until the embargo is lifted.
  • Lono
    Did you cum? Blink once for yes, twice for no...
  • I'll watch it in theatres and then wait for the Super edition. So under the hood is never going to be cut in?
  • Doesn't sound like it will.
  • Django
    Here's hoping the theatrical release is both cohesive and enjoyable enough for non-fans that word of mouth still packs the theatres, so we can get our mouth-wateringly long director's cut on the Big Screen!
  • erich
    " I mean… can Alan Moore and Dave Gibbon’s masterwork truly be done justice in a single movie?"

    I dont know. You're the one whose seen it. The fact that you beg the question suggests possible restrained negativity?

    thanks for that. You're about to get sued.
  • Saesee Tom
    Even though I love Watchmen to bits, let's just have one, tight theatrical cut - like a good film should be. Pace is everything. I even thought The Dark Knight was 20 minutes too long (one too many moral plot threads, maybe? The two ferries, anyone?) Watchmen is epic, but later on DVD I might consider watching a 3.5-Hour Lovely-Bastard-Edition, that way I can have a coffee break and a walk half way through.
  • Conor
    Any idea when this embargo is up?
  • Perfect.
  • They'll probably do it for holiday 2010. Get that one more cash in to make up the money they won't get from the theatrical release (see today's video blog about it by Peter and that other dude from Collider). If they don't some enterprising geek will cut it in himself and torrent that up. I'd download it.
  • They'll probably do it for holiday 2010. Get that one more cash in to make up the money they won't get from the theatrical release (see today's video blog about it by Peter and that other dude from Collider). "Crazy Ultimate Freaky Edition Deluxe Complete!!!" it could be worse than the street fighter series titles.

    If they don't some enterprising geek will cut it in himself and torrent that up. I'd download it.
  • mr.stanky
    on g4tv.com's the feed
    someone who saw the movie posted a review why cant u?
  • perfect summation.

    i will be there for the directors cut in LA!!
  • i think you got it right. People get restless when a movie is 3+ hours.

    lots of times, a film gets to a point where it could end, but it trudges along, and kind of teases the audience. i think the right movie is to release a more slimmed down version first.

    the real fans will watch it twice anyway.
  • you should just read the novel. it's so good and you'll just get so much more out of the film.

    it's an easy read, you should really reconsider reading it first.
  • you make it sound like they'd release the director's cut the next week. there is a 3 month gap.

    and then you have to take into consideration that it's not even GUARANTEED.

    nothing to get QQ over.
  • that's pretty much the formula nowdayz isn't it?

    i think we should be thankful for a director's cut. they could have just released the slimmed down version, and left it at that.

    plus, we (potentially) get to see it on the big screen.
  • from the visuals and photos we've received, I have high hopes it will. i really love the look to the movie based off what i've seen so far.

    as long as they didn't slaughter the storyline, and the performances are good, it should be fine.
  • yes yes. no need to hate on a theatrical release before the director's cut. good things come to those who wait (and pay).
  • hahahahah. didn't even pick up on that. nice.
  • Yeah, I think i will do that, I don't want to have a tainted view of the Watchmen if the movie doesn't live up to or satisfy hype. Ebay here I come.
  • Yeah, I think i will do that, I don't want to have a tainted view of the Watchmen if the movie isn't really done well. Ebay here I come.
  • I agree. Whether the fans want to believe it or not...the vast majority of movie goers will be experiencing the Watchmen for the first time and probably won't fully appreciate the directors cut until they've seen the "studio cut" first. I just wish they'd think about showing it in more cities as I don't live anywhere even remotely close to NY nor LA :/
  • Yeah, BUT, all of these ultra option cuts and re-releases and multiple disc editions makes it harder for the casual consumer to keep track, and I reckon it would suffer more as a result. All of these different releases are clear money spinners and audiences aren't THAT stupid, I think they see it for what it is and that somewhat lessens the credibility (if any) behind a film.

    I personally still like the simple trail of a film going to cinema, then coming out on DVD (or Blu-Ray) with the same cut and some extra features.
  • What about the Fully Uncut Director's Cut on the Blu-Ray Exclusive Limited Edition Director's Release 7 Disc Box Set-- can you talk more towards that release? It'll be the 4th disc set after the initial release but not including the DVD releases, I heard...
  • Remy
    I am so fucking tired of paying for the same movie in different forms over and over it's bad enough with dvds now they are doing it in theaters and telling us about it. Fuck that.
  • I challenge you to predict a single judgment from my upcoming review. There aren't ANY clues.
  • Yep. Monday at some point.
  • i see what you're saying. for my favorite films however, i just buy anything that comes out (stupidity? maybe 50% of it).

    i think i have 4 different copies of Snatch on DVD.
  • different versions*
  • I slightly agree with all you guys are saying, but you should remember that the highest grossing movie of all time was quite long - over 3 hours.

    Not comparing Watchmen to Titanic, but I don't think thats the best argument.
  • Yeah, but you're talking about a R-rated $120 million investment being released in the middle of a global economic downtown to a fickle audience. This thing has got to play so many times in 5,000-odd theatres it's rolling out in that every second counts. It's already about 14 mins longer than Dark Knight. I think the studio has got to make it as accessible as it can.

    I don't think you can make a straight up comparison between a movie-going audience and a comic book audience in terms of 'virgin audiences' or 'built in fan base' primed for the Black Freighter. That's two very different demographics.

    I don't think its that cynical or very surprising really. In fact I'm just glad that they will be every more Watchmen material to see after the main event.
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