Bryan Fuller Tells All About His Return to Heroes

It looks like television mastermind Bryan Fuller is following through with his previously-rumored return to Heroes now that Pushing Daisies has been canceled. And judging from this awesome interview with Michael Ausiello, something tells me we can expect Heroes to get a lot better come the second half of season three. While he has to build off a plotline begun by certain former producers, it’s clear that Fuller has a good sense of Heroes’ current narrative failures and what it takes to remedy them.

On the problems that arose in seasons two and three:

It became too dense and fell into certain sci-fi trappings. For instance, in the “Villains” arc, when you talk about formulas and catalysts, it takes the face off the drama. And I think the goal for everybody is to put a face back on the drama. You have to save something with a face; otherwise you don’t understand what you’re caring about. I thought the “Villains” arc started out very interestingly, and then became sort of muddy and dense and I couldn’t get my hooks into the characters to understand their motivations.

I also started to feel confused about what people’s abilities were. One of the great things about the first season is that the metaphor for their abilities was very clear. Those metaphors seem to have gotten complicated in the past two seasons. I share that concern with everybody on the writing staff. It’s not like I’m coming in and saying, “This is what you need to do to fix it!” Everybody knows what needs to be fixed and everybody is sort of rowing in that direction.

As someone who loved Heroes up until the sucktastic season one finale, I’m glad to hear that somebody on its staff is finally admitting to the show’s problems, and that he has the full support of the other writers to change course. Something also tells me he couldn’t speak as freely about these issues if former producers Jeph Loeb and Jesse Alexander were still involved. I’m fairly certain that their departure, coupled with Fuller’s return, could bring Heroes back to greatness—or at least make it watchable again.

Fuller’s first episode is 3×19, which is the sixth episode of the Fugitives arc set to begin airing early next year. He goes on to mention in the interview that the main characters will finally return to normal, non-super-powered, lives (Peter Patrelli is a paramedic! Claire is college-bound!). Given that I don’t even recognize the characters anymore from their season one counterparts, this is change for the better. We can also expect the show’s narrative to become more focused, with fewer plotlines per-episode.

Fuller plans to stick around for season four, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he jumps ship to work on another series of his own that will ultimately die because it’s “too good for TV”. Until then, Heroes fans should strap in for a treat. I just hope they remember what good Heroes is like.

Discuss: Are you a Heroes apologist or hater? Do you think Fuller could help bring the show back from the brink of suck? What sort of God cancels Pushing Daisies anyway? Sigh.

Source: EW via Aint It Cool News

  • Azure Trayl
    Like so many of you, I was taken by season 1, but season 2 left a bitter aftertaste to say the least. Season 3 is on it's way to redeeming itself and get us back on track with a solid and stable storyline that will be acceptable in the ways season 1 was. I'm stilling sticking through all the flip-flopping and all the stupid choices most of these characters seem to deciding on; in hopes that the season finale has me longing for a quick return to season 4.
  • I still like Heroes so this is great news.
  • blueberry
    I already miss Pushing Daisies.

    I cannot wait to watch Fuller's next non-Heroes project before it gets critical acclaim, prematurely canceled, and draws a cult following in DVD sales.
  • i've watched every episode of Heroes hoping it will get better. it hasn't really, and it is in decline. Some episodes are ok, but nothing builds and makes me care like in season 1. Apparently this guy knows what he's doing, so I'll keep watching, but I don't know how much longer I can hold on.
  • I wonder if I have to go back and suffer through the last 4-5 season 3 episodes to jump on when Fuller starts
  • This is great news for Heroes and I await Mr. Fuller's return!

    Season Three has been a cliched disaster with unbelievable characters and developments- but the last episode was actually a step in the right direction.
  • I am a Heroes hater through and through. I feel as if the writing has actually made me dumber in that when I watch other, well written shows, I'm not able to connect things the way I used to.
  • I have never missed a Heroes episode because as suckish as people may think it to be, I'm staying with it. It's hard to get a show off the ground. It's harder to even get 3 seasons. That's an achomplishment on it's own and unless I think it's gone to far, I'm watching it every monday night.
  • This is not a reason to watch a show. Two and a half men is on its sixth season. Nuf said
  • The only real accomplishment is them managing to spend $4 million per episode on pure nonsense and still convince NBC to foot the bill.
  • Funny, I also felt insanely stupid while watching heroes. Good thing I stopped a season and a half ago!
  • These are my exact sentiments. Its not a bad show but damn
  • One thing that it seems you missed that i remember reading was that Fuller was very optimistic about episode 14/15/16 and said they were amazing.
  • I have enjoyed Season 3 more than 2 but not as much as 1. This news has me excited!
  • This is great news...season 3 has been meh...except for the villains episode, where they almost spent the entire show in a big flashback about the first few episodes in season 1...go figure...lets go Heroes, you can do it!
  • You mean where they pulled a Lucas-esque everything is connected and 'we had it all planned from the start' thing?
  • darren
    i just hate when people compare Heroes to Lost. ick. That's like comparing the prequels to the original. Heroes can be fun but it doesn't come close to reaching the psychological or mythological complexity of Lost.
  • Joseph G
    You just compared Heroes with Lost right after you said you hate when people do it.
  • The Iron Avenger
    He CONTRASTED Lost and Heroes right there, buddy.
  • "He goes on to mention in the interview that the main characters will finally return to normal, non-super-powered, lives"

    Finally? Yes, of course I tune in to a show about people with extraordinary abilities to watch them not have those abilities and then do normal things. Entertainment!
  • Funny, cause that's exactly what made season 1 so great.
  • Chad
    What made season 1 great is their discovery of their powers and how they dealt with that. You can't just go, "Oh, well, I'm sick of this, lets go back to normal!" Just a start a new show, if that's the case.
  • Travis Faulds
    When you have several story arcs melting into each other like Heroes has been doing, it gets kind of exhausting. I think some character-driven downtime is what the show kinda needs at this point...and of course we know it won't be devoid of powers...just not so reliant on them to carry the show.

    In almost every good comic narritave, you have the hero(es) return to a (somewhat) normal existence. That's one thing that makes the idea of super identities so attractive. Batman is just Bruce Wayne at the end of the day. I don't think you need to start a new show to explain that.
  • Chad
    I agree completely. I think they've been introducing too many powered characters and have been letting those powers dictate the show instead of the writing. I just wouldn't want to see a complete lack of powers on the show, which is how that made it sound. They need to find that balance to make this a great show again.
  • Heroes needs a hardcore kaizen and I think Fuller is clearly the way. I'm a HUGE Loeb fan (comic book wise), but Heroes virtually dying this season was a dagger in the back for someone like me who has sung its praises for years now. I haven't seen Pushing Daisies, but between Fuller's Heroes writing and Dead Like Me, I have absolute faith.
  • I love shows like Lost and Pushing Daisies.

    I use to love Heroes.

    But the Heroes that 's on television right now has actually made me turn off the TV and start reading more books. At least real writers know how to avoid plot holes and characters acting out of character. It's like the writers on Heroes decide what's going on in an episode by rolling dice.

    ("Oh look! It's snake eyes. I guess Sylar isn't really going to repent after all. Let's have him kill Elle instead. Brilliant!)
  • I stopped watching it somewhere in the middle of last seasons run. I tried to pick it back up this season and little stuff just bugged me...... I guess I have not been fair to the show, but then again, if it can't keep me entertained and satisfied...
  • I have kept up with the series every week, because of the water cooler talk at work. Every week I complain..... Did anyone else catch the Mohinder side butt action the other week? That was completely unnecessary.
  • I stopped watching Heroes after season 2. I'm not sure why I stayed with it that long, i think habit and friends watching it. I was actually really excited aboutthe Villains arc; villains in other shows are my favorite characters to explore... all angsty and evil. Yum.

    Just got too complicated.

    The optimistic question now is, will Fuller simply save the show, or will he save the show in a way that I DO NO have to watch the first half of this season to understand it and really cash in on the specifics. Cause I'd really rather not.
  • Shouldn't be too much of a problem. First half of the season can be summed up in about 2-3 sentences so it won't take too much for you to catch up.
  • i never disliked heroes. it has always been my fave show on tv .
  • John
    Great news! Fuller wrote Company Man in season one, the best episode of Heroes, so he is exactly what the show needs again.
  • I'd much rather have Pushing Daisies, but since ABC decided to take my favorite show away from me I will welcome Bryan Fuller back to Heroes with the hope it can return to the show I use to look forward to watching every Monday evening. Though I will admit last Monday's episode was pretty good. I had forgotten what it felt like to feel a measure of satisfaction after an episode of Heroes. This season I've pretty much ended each episode with a groan with how fantastically they continued to mess up the characters and confuse the storyline.
  • Travis Faulds
    This is some excellent news! Ever since season 2, it seems Heroes has gone from somewhat disconnected to batshit crazy (and not a good batshit crazy). I'm really hoping that Fuller brings back some of the intensity and heartfelt episodes that made us breathless from the first season. If anything, at least we know the show won't get any worse now that he's back on board.

    On a side-note, I think this past episode, while not the show's finest moment, ended a loooong streak of shit. At least now it gives me some reason to stay tuned.
  • *might contain spoilers*

    I guess Im one of those people that will stick to a show even if it starts to suck. Ive said this before but the writers strike screwed up Heroes. Maybe Im putting too much of the blame on that and not the producers. But if you watch the Season 2 deleted scenes and the things they had planned for the second half of the season, I thought it made up for it. I feel that the producers this season thought they needed to add all of these things like the catalyst and stuff to make up for last season but it just didnt work out. They got rid of characters we loved, Nicki and her son, Monica, Adam and gave us people we dont care for Mya, Tracy, Daphene (even though shes growing on me).
  • But even though I love Heroes, I would be naive to think it didnt have flaws. One of the thing that makes me mad is that in an episode they will have a couple great scenes. Hiro and with his mom on this weeks episode had me getting emotional, and Im a grown man (well 19 turning 20 but whatever). But what screwed up a potential great episode is Hiro looses his powers. It just seems like the producers didnt have a clear goal in mind for each episode and throw things together quickly. I have high hopes for the rest of the season and if they want a show after season 4 then they need to steo up their stuff.
  • This whole season so far has been about getting rid of overpowered people. As I recall, the retconned Arthur's power to make him able to steal powers, thus giving the writers ways to get rid of the overpowered powers like empathy and time travel while still keeping characters like Peter and Hiro. Notice how completely retarded they've been acting lately? It was necessary to make them stupid in order to sideline them.
  • Chad
    I really hope they don't "get rid" of time travel. Its a terrific power and I think, with good writing, they'll be able to use it as a terrific plot device. It just gets hard when you have more than one character that can teleport through space/time and they do it for dumb reasons sometimes.
  • dan
    "He goes on to mention in the interview that the main characters will finally return to normal, non-super-powered, lives (Peter Patrelli is a paramedic! Claire is college-bound!)"

    Awesome! So, three seasons in, we're going to go back to the beginning because that's what character development is! Or, wait, no, that's the opposite of character development.

    Uh...

    Awesome! I really want to watch a show called "Heroes" about a group of people who used to have super powers but don't anymore! Because that's what people like about this show, is everyone not having any powers! Or, wait, no, that's the opposite of what people like about this show.

    Holy god, this show perpetuated the worst and steepest decline in quality I've ever seen.
  • Who said anything about them not having any powers? He merely stated that the characters would go back to their "normal" lives before they found out they had powers. Claire being a student. Peter being a nurse. Matt being a cop. The writers now have completely forgotten that these had lives before and turned them all into full-time super heroes.
  • Mikey M
    What surprises me is that Tim Krige who has supposedly been overseeing the show doesnt know enough about writing for a TV series to guide his writing staff away from shallow characters and predictable Sci Fi cliches.
    The show has been a mess with characters not having any clear cut motivations and not Fuller said, just becoming too dense. It was if they were just writing things down with no full plan.
    First thing they need to do is make it an action adventure show but with fun chracters that you like. This season has been about a bunch of people with powers but you could care less about them.
    Get rid of Sylar. He wa good for a season but you don't even love to hate him anymore.
    Also Matt and Surish. Buh-bye.
  • If you read interview with Kring, you begin to realize why Heroes is in the state it's in right now. He's part of the problem and should just be removed from the project alltogether. Here's a little gem from one of his most recent interviews:

    ""I was thinking a lot about a sort of philosophy of writing, of wanting to do a writing based on the idea of what happens next, and not knowing where you’re going. I was really intrigued by the idea of writing kind of blindly towards an ending. "
  • Mikey M
    Thanks for posting that. It makes sense where the show was headed...in no specific direction, just "A Direction."
  • I stopped watching Heroes this season after it went off the deep end and got too crazy for me to handle/keep up with. Knowing Bryan Fuller is writing the episodes will only me sadder that Pushing Daisies was canceled. :(
  • YOi
    I hate heroes because they "stole" Fuller from Pushing Daisies. Fuller is deserved to write another great show except heroes.
  • greycolumbus
    Huh? Heroes didn't steal anything. Fuller was on their staff before Pushing Daisies'.
  • Yoi
    I hated heroes since season 2, and heroes was overrated since season 1 although it s not as bad as the next season. It s too bad that great show like pushing daisies was canceled and great writer like fuller is hired back to help this hopeless show back on its track. Heroes is never considered as a good show in my mind, I prefer X-men than heroes.

    Life is unfair.
  • greycolumbus
    X-men and Heroes are two completely different things. At least, they were suppose to be before FULLER LEFT. I hate it when people start comparing Heroes to X-men. The public in the Heroes universe doesn't even know about people with special abilities. And season 1 was when Fuller was active.

    Pushing Daises was picked up by a shitty network. Let hope DVD sales or something manages to give it life somehow.
  • greycolumbus
    One word: YES.

    Never in a million years have I considered the possibly of the cast actually returning to everyday life. I was out right shocked when Nathan recently stated that Peter was a nurse. Its been THAT long since any of their lives have been acknowledged.

    I fear that this all might involve some sever retconning but, what needs to be done needs to be done.
  • I wonder if they'll bother explaining how Claire manages to get into College after missing so much school.
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