no!
it's all about the O.G. costumes. don't give me some horrible looking alvin/scooby/garfield looking remake. the track records of those movies should indicate that this will be much disaster.

and the ONE thing i can't stand is cgi characters in a live action movie. it just looks so out of place and takes me completely out of the movie. i would rather see live action turtles in a cgi background.
uncanny valley my ass! bring back the real magic of amazing puppets and costumes!

I liked the CG Turtles movie for what it was worth. I thought the Leonardo/Raphael fight in the rain was really cool. But I definately prefer live action characters and sets. I think a hybrid movie would be good cuz like Peter said, the action sequences could be amazing. When I look back on the first movies, the fight scenes are definately lacking, but there is only so much you can do in suits that they had to wear. I would prefer for the new one to have more of a feel like the first, dark but still accessible to kids.

Corey Feldman as the voice of Donatello FTW.

@jank

Look at what they were able to do with Gollum and in the Star Wars prequels. If they get the right team to do it then the Turtles could flow with everything else. I will agree that the original costumes were cool though.

I agree that CGI turtles in a live action movie would be extremely lame. Costume turtles all the way.

No crappy fake CGI turtles. Give me creative costume design.

Ninja Turtles, Chipmunks, whatever... this is a terrible, terrible idea always.

LEATHERHEAD.

bring in rocksteady and bebop!!

I agree with ajt on bringing the right team to do this. As long as its better than the 3rd one then hey consider me aboard this train. Cowabunga!!!

god please don't do that... i actually liked the CG cartoon.

come one those suits in the original movie were pretty good for the 80's....I'd say use new suits and then use CGI when the stunt people can't do the moves like they did with Spiderman....do we really want a Garfield or Alvin and The Chipmunks version of Ninja Turtles....also the movie should be geared to 13 year old like the original movies were...

I agree with "Dallas Man" , it's been too long without Bebop and Rocksteady...if they are seriously bringing back Shredder then they have to include them..maybe the Turtle van as well.lol...

"Fantastical and unrealistic"
.......
They're teen aged mutants who are also turtles.

The live-action costumes looked shitty, and I imagine completely CG-ed turtles would look shitty. When you have a story so absurd that it revolves around mutated turtles with ninja training, there's not alot you can do to avoid the "shitty" factory.

The animated show and movie seem to fit it the best, leave it at that.

Yeah we need a new turtles director because the one who did the first movie did such a horrible job? WTF get out of here with that. He's the only director who GOT what the ninja turtles was all about, urban legends living amongst us. I love how the first film at least tries to sell the idea that maybe there are big talking turtles underground similar to how spielberg tried to sell us an alien befriending a boy and it wasn't dumbed down like the sequels and I'll include the pretty dumb cgi movie in this as well, I don't know why people give that a pass. It's a videogame.

Bring back the suits. Bring back the focus on creating actual art and a memorable story please.

@ damon

LOL excellent point.

call me crazy, but i'd like to see a film based off the original comics - the stuff that actually started all of the TMNT love. i think a hybrid film is the way to go, as long as it is NOT MADE DIRECTLY FOR KIDS! fuck em - they have enough films.

transformers is enough adult & kids entertainment at the same time, so something like that would be cool.

They should do it like I, Robot. Get acrobatic actors to mime the turtles on screen with other actors, and when the action gets too crazy it would be easy to transition to the full CGI turtles.

Personally, I really don't care if they do CGI-mixed-in or full computer animation. With technology these days, they can often make both approaches look really good.

What I'm hoping for is a good storyline and good characterization. One element that I did like of the recent "TMNT" was that the characterization was good and the interaction of the brothers actually mattered in the context of the developing story. They had to overcome some of their own issues before they even stood a chance of overcoming the "real" villains. (None of this could really be said to be the case for the original live-action films, at least not to any great extent.)

Good storyline and characterization can happen regardless of how much or how little computer animation there is or whether or not it's a "hybrid" film.

Can we all please admit that Gollum didn't look real? I hate it when people reference LOTR as some kind of perfect union of digital/celluloid/CG. It was done very, very well... but it still looked fake. Beowulf looked fake.

If I'm being completely honest, I think the best use of CG/live action intergration so far has been Transformers. That shit looked about as real as giant robots trashing shit can look. Maybe slightly more real.

I really enjoyed the latest TMNT CG movie, but most of the flick had me sitting there thinking to myself, "damn, i wish they were live-action."

This whole "hybrid" thing should be reserved for character's that CANNOT be produced with live-action counterparts. The chipmunks are good use of CG... Slimer won't be. The original TMNT films prove that turtles aren't, either.

Yuck

oh, also - raphael cannot sound like a 40 year old new jersey long shoreman dock worker. please, it's just too distracting.

@ Dallas Man and others:

NO BEBOP AND ROCKSTEADY! Just give up on this idea right now and maybe read a comic or two and learn something about the TMNT. Bebop and Rocksteady are creations of fredwolf films and are the direct result of creative control being wrestled away from Peter Liard and Kevin Eastman on the original toon. You will never ever ever see Bebop, Rocksteady, or Krang in anything having to do with an offical Mirage story. thank god.

and really it doesn't matter if its all cg, half and half, or all live action. If they don't respect the true essence of TMNT and make another kiddie toy commercial, it will flop...again.

Fuck that, CG Turtles would be shit.

I completely agree with Superman Peter. Have you even seen the first movie? I'm thinking not. You said that we needed a break from the fantastical and unrealistic, well, if you watch the first movie, it is the most realistic of them all. I would put it more in the Drama genre than action. Plus, they say damn like 5 times. haha How much more realistic can you get than teenagers who share drama and cuss a lot? lol Plus the gritty feel of the movie made it awesome! By far the best turtles creation to date. Watch the movie man.

I agree! Great movie!
I would like to see the Comic Book story come to life in some form though!

@Damon:

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Plus, I don't think the director of the first movie did such a bad job, either.

Hybrid sounds like a bad idea. I'm sorry but the best hybrid is "Who Framed Roger Rabbit."

Instead of playing around with a hybrid TMNT, performance capture sounds more ideal. But I woouldnt mind another CG animated film because another live action doesnt sit well in my stomach.

I dont care if thier in costumes or CGI. I just want KRANG!

the last thing we need is more NEW characters. thats why Bebop and Rocksteady werent in the 2nd movie... the toy company wanted NEW characters. new characters means new toys and more money. look at the last one: alien monster things from the past?! all a ploy to sell more toys. just like star wars. and it screws everything up. shredder and the foot with some old school familiar mutants is all you need. none of this otherworldly crap. though the technodrome would be sweet to see in "live" action.

How about CGI enhanced rubber suits?Like Davey Jones from Pirates of the Caribbean,that was impressive.No to Full CGI characters on live action,it will FAIL like JAR JAR BINKS.

Alvin and the Chipmunks and Scooby Doo comparisons does not inspire confidence. This is one franchise that needs to be left dead buried in the 80s/early 90s. It was such a paper thin concept to begin with - right up their with Highlander.

Dude we are living in an age where there are no writers smart enough to come up with something original without repeating another story. An adaptation for this movie would be amazing. And the children of today have other characters to love for their entire life. Make it darker and appeal to the fans that grew up on it. It isnt like children today arent going to see it anyway

another way they could do it is to use just the actors body in a turtle suit and have the actors wear a green head rap so thier heads can be erased later.it'd take a little more skill to get everything lined up but that would make it even more realistic...to have a real body and then later make a C.G.I head so you can get all the facial expressions they do in the cartoons.if u remember that movie Zathura, those reptilian monsters in that movie were done the same way.the bodys were real but the necks and heads were all C.G.I.

i think a mixture of live action and C.G.I just for the turtles is possible.remember in that movie Zathura..those lizard men..they were actualy created by using actors in suits and then their heads covered in green cloth so the lizards neck and head could be added later using C.G.I. I think this technique would be good to catch the turtles expressions they make on the cartoon...seeing that u just cant capture something like that witha rubber mask.they also used it in Little man.

lol didnt mean to post twice. thought it didn't post the first time.

Wish they would do another fully animated TMNT, only with PG-13 rated action and less silly human designs, but if they are going the CGI/live action route, they need to get WETA (who did Gollum in "Lord of the Rings") or ILM (who did Davy Jones from "Pirates of the Caribbean") to do the mo cap turtles.

Also find martial artists that can move and fight like Tony Jaa or David Belle, as well as a reputable fight/action choreographer like Donnie Yen.

And please, NO SHAKY CAM/FAST EDITS!!

Man, I would love to see a costume based turtle movie but more importantly ONE WITH A GOOD PLOT! That last CGI movie fucking sucked plot wise and the turtles looked like fucking frogs. I agree with what someone else said though, make the costumes and during intense fight scenes where the stuntman lack, THEN USE CGI.. but not for the whole movie.

And stick with the Jim Henson company as far as costumes go because... wherever the hell you guys got the costumes in the third movie, that was a bad idea.

I'm thinking this will be as good as TDK. Actually, better.

Please please please let this next turtles installment appeal to those who GENUINELY care about how this movie turns out, and I'm talking about those who read the books, enjoyed the orig cartoons at a ripe age of about 10, and watched them blossom into a FANTASTIC live action movie in 1990. We're in our late twenties NOW! We need vintage release. That means dark and good; good meaning something visually appealing and emotionally involving, without the over-indulged use of CGI completely taking away the semblance of real, or at least as real as 4 teenage mutant ninja turtles can be. I mean, I teared when Raph woke up in the tub and Leo waking from his depressed slumber to find his brother is indeed okay. I freaking cried, man! More, I say!
Things needed to proceed in the right direction:
1)Live-action with live-action characters and stunts, with a touch of animation splashed in at the right time to allow for the step beyond the limitations present in movies like this today. Jim Henson co doing the costumes is sort of a must.
2)dark and gritty with comic relief. I want to follow my turtles (sorry, but after this many years of involvement as a fan, I can't help but feel that as fans we helped collectively bring turtles to where they are today, so they are at least in part, ours) in route on an emotionally charging, action-laden, martial-artistry ride where maybe, for example, Casey Jones (def bring back Elias Koteas), aged now, dies protecting his good buddies from total annihilation. There are so many good possibilities here.
3)A vision much like the first, which means Barron, maybe. There are a lot of directors out there. If the script and production are good enough, a good director will want to jump aboard.

There's more but this is a little too long-winded. I know it's sort of selfish to ask that this project sort of sidestep the youngens today who've found an interest in neo-TMNT, but we fans who enjoy relishing over times past, watching turtles, playing turtles, pretending to live turtles are asking for more than what's been recently produced. Vintage re-hash of the old-school, but amped up to fit the age group of those old-schoolers would be sensational.

count it

Whats with all the talk about Bebop and Rock Steady?
If there gonna do it they need to go with the comic book story!
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/one/pg0...
Would be so Bad ass.
1st is Baxster then you will get some Krang Action!

i agree with Connie i want see the live action and batman begins type of.

frank miller should direct this