Rant: Hollywood Doesn’t Understand IMAX


For weeks, many of the IMAX screenings of The Dark Knight have been sold out. Ticket-buyers have left those screenings ranting and raving about the IMAX difference. So yesterday, 20th Century Fox and Paramount announced that they will also be releasing Night at the Museum 2 and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen on the big big BIG screen, and it makes me angry because Hollywood doesn’t even understand why people loved the IMAX version of The Dark Knight in the first place. It was because Christopher Nolan shot 20-plus minutes of the film using the large format IMAX cameras. The difference in those four sequences (combined with some establishing shots) made for an unforgettable experience.

I remember when I first began encouraging people to wait to see the film in IMAX, there was a backlash on the site, because people just didn’t get it - much like Hollywood. They had gone to the movie theater and had seen other big Hollywood films on the IMAX screen, and it wasn’t worth the $5+ ticket increase. Not only that, but only a portion of the IMAX screen was being used. When I was at Dreamworks Aniamtion a couple weeks ago, I asked Jeffrey Katzenberg if they had plans to create a movie which would take advantage of the whole IMAX screen. He responded unenthusiastically, claiming the current way they do IMAX is still a “quality experience” for the audience, and that it would depend “on how their footprint expands over time”.

And that is the issue. Right now, IMAX is only thought of as a supplemental. It’s some extra cash to add on to the box office total. But imagine if the movie studios asked themselves “how can we enhance the experience to justify the ticket price increase?” Maybe people would flock to an IMAX release of a film, like they did with The Dark Knight.

One only has to look at the numbers. Yeah, The Dark Knight in
IMAX accounts for only about 2% of the theaters, and only about 1% of the screens, but brought in 12.3% of the box office last weekend. Tickets are still being scalped on craigslist, even four weeks in. I’ve tried to get updated box office numbers, but latest I could find are from last week [thanks to Alex at FirstShowing]. In the first 19 days of release, The Dark Knight IMAX Experience grossed over $32 million. I’m guesstimating that the Dark Knight’s IMAX total is probably around $40 million. That’s more money then they made in the 4,025 theaters that shows the film this past weekend. That’s a lot of cash for just 124 of the estimated 10,000 or so screens showing the film. And who knows what the end total of the IMAX release could possibly be. $50 or more million seems possible. That’s more money than Rambo or Speed Racer was able to make in their respective domestic runs.

Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that every blockbuster film should feature segments shot in IMAX. I’m just saying, if Hollywood wants to take advantage of a virtually unexploited revenue stream, they need to put some focus on providing a value added IMAX experience. You want to get people back to the theaters in this on demand home theater based world? You need to give them a reason. 3D is one of those reasons, and IMAX could easily be the other.

I remember Pixar use to release two versions of their movies on DVD, one that was widescreen, and one that was specially rendered for a full frame television. Of course, things have now changed with the widespread adoption of HDTVs. But back then, most families preferred showing a full frame version of a movie on their 4:3 tv. And we all know that the full frame presentation usually cuts off the sides of the original theatrical presentation. Pixar didn’t want audiences to miss part of the presentation, so they spent the time and money to re-render films like A Bug’s Life for the 4:3 presentation. This way, viewers watching the full frame version wouldn’t miss a thing, and in some cases would even be seeing more than those who watched the original widescreen presentation.

My point is that an alternative cinematic presentation can be done. A Dreamworks animated film could be re-rendered for an IMAX presentation (but how much would that process cost?). Katzenberg said it himself that the best 3D experience is when the screen takes up your peripheral vision. If he’s so gung ho about 3D, then he should eliminate the widescreen in his IMAX presentations.

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  • Darrell
    I would not ever walk into a theatre to watch a movie in 3D. However, IMAX, that's a different story.

    Attempts to see TDK so far have been sold out for me because I only want to see it in IMAX. I download about 90% of the movies I see because that's the $ value I associate with 90% of movies being pumped out by Hollywood. For IMAX I would wait longer and pay more to get the proper movie going experience. Out of about 10-15 movies a month I may only watch 1 in a theatre every two months... more IMAX (and better movies) would change that.
  • quadrangleman
    Keep in mind that there are different sizes of imax screens as well. at least i think. I saw Star Wars EP2 at the Kansas City Zoo imax screen, which is obnoxiously huge. During closeups, you could only look at a single facial feature at a time, like a nose or an eye. I saw TDK at the AMC imax screen in olathe, KS and it was definitely closer to a regular sized screen, but the quality was wonderful.
  • HobbesPDX
    I live in Portland, Oregon, where we have (not an IMAX, but) an OMNIMAX theater, which is like an IMAX presentation, except the whole theater screen is a dome, and the lens of both the projector, and the original camera use a fisheye lens.

    The operator of this cinema is determined to show standard-IMAX movies on the dome, and the results are HORRIBLE. When I saw Star Wars Ep2 (mistake for so many reasons), Anakin was always 45+ feet tall, and curved. Bad deal.

    If Hollywood _is_ going to properly embrace visually-rich formats, it would serve them to shoot a feature for a truly immersive experience, which OMNIMAX provides.
  • bryant
    im sorry, but i saw the dark knight in IMAX and on the regular screen, and yes the imax shots were awesome...but not as awesome as everyone has been ranting about...

    it would be one thing if the whole movie was shot like that, but i felt like the few imax scenes almost made the other parts of the movie feel feeble..

    i donno, i dont mean to have on the movie, i just didnt really see what everyone has been so in awe of
  • Rion
    Ok, Peter, one last thing in rebuttal-rebuttal:

    I think you are looking at things short term, as are the studios. I understand that studios are looking to not lose cash, but imagine if you were half-way through the production of, say, 'Transformers: More Action Figures', and then the studio told you you'd have to re-jig a few of your scenes for the IMAX format. See, Nolan had the whole IMAX idea very early in on the production of 'The Dark Knight'. From what I've heard it doesn't sound like the easiest process to do the whole IMAX shenagingry.

    The basis of your article imposes that the studios go RIGHT NOW and make all their films into IMAX-Tastic presentations, but that in essence would suck. A hack director of Ratnerian proportions would simply see it as like a way to make everything 'better', but the truth is it would just make it all giant and migrane-inducing. The reason that it worked so well in TDK was because there was an artistic vision with the cameras, not just the intention of making everything bigger or 'getting asses in seats'.

    I'd wait a few years and see if talented directors can actually get behind the format, and I'd rather see that then a Rush Hour 4 where Chris Tucker's face is bigger than my house. Till then, we can expect studios like Paramount to roll with the bandwagon in their typically half-assed manner.
  • Indiefilm
    I'm in the minority.
    I loved The Dark Knight IMAX: Experience
    Peter, I agree. IMAX is an answer.

    Katzenberg and his "3-D is the future"
    bullshit is stupid. Regal Entertainment Group
    gave me all the reasons to hate 3-D or Real D.

    Its goofy. Nothing feels real (light from the projector flickers)
    and its a distraction from the story. Filmmakers spend wasteful brain power to show the audience how many things can fly out of the screen. 3-D should 've died in the 1980s

    I like IMAX because it takes up your whole vision. Its like looking out a window. Nolan's IMAX footage was crisp, clear and beautiful. If he shoots a film completely with IMAX cameras, I'm there.
  • McGruff: The IMAX sequences were shot with 70mm film, as opposed to 35mm film. Not only is it more vivid, crisper, but it fills the entire IMAX screen. So no, it's not just as big, its much bigger.
  • Mcgruff
    Just wondering- can someone explain to me just what exactly makes Imax sequences so great? I havent seen dark knight in an imax theater (i do plan to tho) and am wondering if the imax scenes are just the equivalent of watching a few scenes in high definition, with a crisper picture. is that all it is because, i mean, the rest of the movie is just as big right? thanks for the insight and sorry to sound imax-ignorant
  • Bobcat
    I would agree with plastique elephant in the sense that I prefer a 1.85:1 or 2.35:1 aspect ratio... IMAX's is just odd to me in this era of Widescreen... (according to wikipedia its 1.43:1, which is like between full and wide).

    However I would disagree with the comment on the soft-focus issue. I didn't notice that at all (maybe my eyes aren't as trained?). To me all the scenes in IMAX resolution were breathtakingly crisp and very hi-def looking. It blew me away.

    We just need movies to be shot 1.85:1 or 2.35:1 at higher resolutions... and fyi, I make no claim to understand movie recording technology, so I don't know if what I'm saying even makes sense? I think from the little I've read the high IMAX resolution has to do with using 70mm film as opposed to the standard 35mm film... can't we shoot widescreen ratios with 70mm film and then have IMAX quality widescreen movies? That'd seem best of both worlds to me.
  • lukeg37
    Awesome article. Very good read. Though it wasnt until my second read thru till I was on board with you 100% My first thoughts are that americans did not go see the dark knight because of 20 minutes of large format footage. I really think your wrong there. Audiences simply go for the bigger screen and the louder sound. Do you really think most americans know there is a diffrent visual experince to expect in this imax presentation than normal? dam if 1 out of 10 people know about the use of large format imax cameras. So with that said whether people were pre-aware of this feature the bottom line is they saw it and loved it and there gonna want more of it. Studios should see and delve more into this untapped market. However those IMAX cameras are big, loud, expensive and difficult to work with. Until the technology makes it more economical to use we will in the mean team be fed night at the museum 2 and transformers 2 as they are easy sells.
    It is good to know though that as a stunning visual experince that the DK was I think its safe to say that it has set a presedent. It would be silly to think that studios will not eventually try to capitalize on this. Give it a year or 2 and I think we can expect some pretty friggin sweet things
  • Liz
    The most annoying thing, to me, about the whole IMAX hype is that lots of people are stuck in places where the viewings aren't even available. This is even more annoying because most cities HAVE AN IMAX THEATER, but many - like our local one - is sticking with their usual lineup of "HOLY CRAP IT'S A HUGE FREAKIN SHARK." Why?
  • 790
    It sofa king big..... It hurts !!!!!

    I'm talking about IMAX,,,,,,
  • A Better Class of Criminal
    I second Captian Awesome's idea.

    You know what sucks though, I paid for IMAX tickets at an AMC 20 theatres... just so you know I had been at the Henry Ford IMAX in Detroit and it filled the entire wall... and when I got to the theatre the screen was about twice the size of a normal screen. It was hardly a quarter the size of the whole wall... which was not as big as the wall at Henry Ford mind you... and I was pissed.
    Don't get me wrong, it was still pretty awesome, and all the IMAX shot screen did change to fill the whole screen and looked crystal clear... It was pretty amazing.
    But I was hoping for the stories-high screen, not the puny screen I had to watch it on (still a freaking awesome movie though).
    And the kicker is, I tried to get tickets for Henry Ford... but it was sold out... in fact, I think it's still sold out.

    Seriously, it sucked.
  • Robby Johanson
    IMAX theaters are designed so that the audience sits closer to the screen. To create the best IMAX experience, films need to be shot for the screen. This means that they should be keeping the main action toward the center of the screen leaving room around the outside edges of the frame to fill in the viewers peripheral vision. In other words, they need to back the camera up a bit. Instead of a close up, they should have a medium shot. Medium shots should be replaced with wide shots. If you want a 35mm print, you should be able to cut away all the outside edges of a frame and use just the middle. This isn't done even on some films shot with IMAX in mind, I don't think a lot of people get what IMAX should be. The Dark Knight was a huge step in the right direction.
  • TheAverageDave
    Well ranted, Peter.

    I've convinced many of my friends to see it in IMAX. Usually the first remark is, "but it's too big, you have to turn your head too much." I usually respond by saying "get there early to get a better seat, silly." Then I describe the freefall-like feeling of seeing the establishing aerial shots in that resolution and then they're usually hooked.

    But maybe they have a point. Do you think IMAX theaters could be designed better?
  • Tendrillar
    I'm sure Hollywood would say that you don't understand business. Money moves the world and no one has it more than ignorant casual movie goers, who don't give a shit about what parts were and weren't, if at all, shot in IMAX format. As long as that fucker is as big as a building. That's all that matters. Big Money, big movie.
  • Brian B.
    I agree. they don't get it.
  • Goobity
    The IMAX experience is really only worth it if the material is originally filmed using IMAX cameras. At TDK, the opening shot of Gotham elicited a unified 'gasp' from everyone in the theater (and several outright statements of "WOW..."). It just felt massive.
    Films that are simply blown-up to fit the bigger screen really don't offer a better experience. It's just bigger...meh. It's not the same thing at all.
  • Brody
    Atta boy Peter.
  • Robby Johanson
    It takes time, Night at the Museum and Transformers 2 are already filming. To shoot in IMAX would need to be planned in advance. There are reports from the IMAX CEOs that film makers and studios have contacted them about filming in IMAX for future films. Hollywood is looking at what is happening with The Dark Knight... It's just going to take a while. TDK wouldn't have happened in IMAX if it hadn't been for all the DMR releases before it. Converting films into IMAX allowed the IMAX theater network to grow to the point that it became feasible to shoot in that format and expect to make money. It took more than a year after Polar Express did so well in IMAX 3D before another was released. IMAX has been around for close to 40 years, the quality has always been the best, the experience has always been amazing. It's just a matter of time before we see a whole film shot in IMAX.
  • gocitizen
    I agree with Peter. The studios won't budge on something until it becomes obvious. If people go to see these future IMAX releases in any number, they win. If they don't show up, they might listen, but I still doubt it.

    TDK in IMAX absolutely blows away the standard theater version. Worth every penny - twice.
  • I saw it in both Imax and a Normal theater and there really wasn't much of a difference. Imax was better due to the seating and bigger screen but the movie was exactly the same to me, both times i saw it.
  • David
    I saw TDK in IMAX. I thought the movie was great, but switching the aspect ratio back and forth through the movie drove me nuts. If they're not willing/able to shoot a whole feature in IMAX format, I prefer picking one aspect ratio and sticking to it.
  • Rion: But don't you think in a day and age where the studios are afraid of losing ticket sales to home viewing that they would be looking towards future ways to entice the public into theaters? Sure Studios are looking for a quick buck, agreed, but they are also looking towards the future as well. And right now I'm pretty sure that the studios don't see a value in optimizing a presentation for IMAX. They just see it at face value. Dark Knight made money on IMAX, we could also make money on IMAX. They clearly don't understand why TDK made so much money on IMAX, and if they do, they clearly don't think its worth the investment to optimize for an enhanced experience.
  • Steelo
    steelo continued:

    granted yeah, you can tell a story in 3d, but there's still the issue skills.
    Because if you aren't careful it can come off as gimmick. It took a while for people to look past that with Dark Knight and see that there was actually some worth added to the story because of it.
  • Hawk: Have you seen The Dark Knight in IMAX?
  • ododo
    i need x-men origins in IMAX


    and DRAGONBALL

    wtf fox
  • Rion
    Peter, In response:

    I understand that Paramount are releasing the films for Moneys, but it's not that they don't understand.

    It's that they don't care.

    The thinking is 'get the films out on IMAX now because people are stupid and will think they are getting an enhanced experience.' It's the same principle they used when 300 was huge. They didn't want to make a whole bunch of films that were similar in tone, so they just made advertising campaigns that were. Look at any of the '30 Days Of Night' posters for proof.

    It's all about hurrying the product out in the most profitable way possible.
  • hawk
    I don't care for IMAX. The screens are few and far between and they usually cost more to see.
  • Steelo
    eh. I think part of the problem is due to the amount of IMAX screens available.
    There's probably, what, 2 within about a 50 mile radius in Dallas?
    Plus you have to get a director with the framing sensibility required.

    I mean it's possible but it always comes down to cost, and if I can spend 120 mill on Alvin and the Chipmunks 2: Still Nutty and make that money back in 2 weeks off of 100 million screens in the US whether you dig it or not, I've done my corporate duty.

    Let's also not forget the Heath Ledger performance and death added to this one significantly whether you want to admit it or not. People have been waiting on a seriously taken comic movie for decades and Iron Man was the pinnacle until this came out, so to say Hollywood isn't "seeing" it is questionable. I'd consider all of the factors.

    As far as presentations go though, The Dark Knight experience was memorable AND if marketed, filmed and manufactured correctly will force the public out of their torrent, Netflix and DVD coated viewing lives.

    Props on the post.
  • Mikey M
    Though I appreciate Imax, the screen is overall too Big and busy for me to enjoy the movie. I usually get a headache. Your head is all over the place trying to track the action because, well, the screen is just so damn Huge.
  • starscream9289
    Is that the IMAX theater on Universal Citywalk? It sure looks like it. It has the most uncomfortable seats ever!
  • Allison
    I loved "The Dark Knight" on IMAX, I subsequently saw it on a regular screen and it was still a great movie but I definitely preferred the IMAX experience.

    What surprises me about your article is that you say IMAX costs more in the US, I paid the same ticket price for both formats. It's rare that we get a better deal in the UK!
  • Rion: thanks for stating the obvious. You wrote:

    "They don’t care that ‘The Dark Knight’ was filmed the way it was, all they know is that it makes coin."

    Yes, but why did The Dark Knight IMAX presentation make so much coin? That's what The Hollywood studios don't understand. They are just looking at IMAX as supplemental cash, when it could be a revenue stream in itself.
  • Rion
    Ahh Sciretta, not the whole 'people don't GET IT!' thing. Paramount may or may not get it, that's not really the point. The reasoning behind 'Night At The Museum 2' and 'Transmorpher:BOOM BLAH SPLOSION' getting the IMAX treament is being justified by one thing only: sweet Benjamins.

    They don't care that 'The Dark Knight' was filmed the way it was, all they know is that it makes coin. They aren't going to ask Michael Bay or [Insert Hack Director] to shoot using the IMAX cameras, especially not Bay considering his attention span (though to be fair, considering that you can only film about 30 seconds of film with the cameras would be ideal for his ADHD filming style), but it's not that they don't understand, they just know it'll pay for a solid gold couch and all the coke their nostrils can inhale.

    Maybe down the road we can look forward to some actual DIRECTOR directors putting the IMAX touch on their films, but for now they know that people will flock to go see their [scatological term], and so it'll be done.

    I, for one, know that the sales of migrane medication will dramatically increase when 'TRANSFORMBLAHS WOOT PSHOO' gets it's IMAX release.
  • J C
    I work at a multiplex which has an IMAX theatre so pardon my discounted movie tickets for making me a little biased. Once you see a feature in IMAX that really should be the only way to see it. Sure the 20 minutes of Dark Knight filmed with an IMAX camera were absolutely incredible (mindblowing) but the up-conversion of 35mm to IMAX should really be all of a "gimmick" anyone would ever need to see a film in that format. The image is unsurpassed in clarity AND size.

    Also in the list of people who don't get IMAX are the majority Cinema Staff. Underselling the IMAX product and generally getting confused when the on-screen ratio changes.
  • plastique elephant
    peter,

    i love your site but have to disagree on you on this one big time. i saw TDK twice in opening week, first at the IMAX, second in a multiplex. i much preferred it the second experience. i'm a filmmaker who always shoots 2.35 scope, and framing and focus are two of the most powerful creative tools one has. on the IMAX, i could focus on a tiny patch of the screen at any given time and the depth of field was so shallow that everything but the precise point Nolan set focus on was soft. the effect for me was that the film was much more an impressionistic experience... i couldn't wrap my head around it fully, just had to abandon myself to the film and i prefer to have my brain working when watching. it's interesting that all the negative reviews (new yorker ect.) all came from imax screenings. i'm not saying those IMAX moments weren't amazing to me in isolation, but I felt the loss of coherency outweighed the wow factor of the establishing shots. next time, i'll hit a multiplex but power to people who loved the IMAX. it would scare me if directors were pressured to release films in different aspect ratios but, blade runner for instance is a very different film in widescreen and full frame.
  • Captain Awesome
    I want to see porn on Imax.
  • Bobcat
    Agreed. The whole appeal was the fact that they filmed chunks of the movie with the camera. Otherwise movies are too expensive already, screw paying another $5 for zero benefits.

    The Dark Knight scenes that were filmed with the IMAX camera had me drooling during each one... I can only imagine if the whole film was done that way. Maybe someday more studios/producers/directors will catch on, until then, I won't be going back to IMAX for a while...
  • Thank you, Peter! I had exactly the same reaction to this "news." In fact, there is nothing newsworthy about releasing movies into Imax theaters. It's been done for years. And it always looks crappy. Until The Dark Knight (which I've now seen twice at the Imax in SF), I hadn't been at an Imax screening since a drunken viewing of the first Spider-Man movie (the third time I saw it on its opening day). Only Imax cameras will get me into an Imax theater, and I'm not alone.
  • carg0
    excellent post, as I myself have been making the same ascertions to all of my family and friends who think they know what an 'Imax' movie is. it's happened more frequently lately as more hollywood studios purposely mislead moviegoers into believing they're seeing movies in Imax.

    it's really quite irresponsible because the real Imax experience is truly something and doesn't get the real attention it deserves.
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