Comments on: VOTD: Joker vs Joker (Jack Nicholson vs Heath Ledger)

By: Bwarg69

Bwarg69 — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:47:51 +0000

Cait, isn’t Heath’s famous line “Why so serious?” I find that hilarious because he spent most of the film looking serious and his make up looked like crap.

floyd0, Heath deserved it.

By: floyd0

floyd0 — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:36:13 +0000

it doesn’t have anything to do with him being dead, most of people are saying heath cause he was indeed better he blew jack away.

By: Cait

Cait — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:52:03 +0000

Actually, Green, you’re “off”

Did you ever think MAYBE his name is the Joker because the creator was trying to be ironic?

Hmmmm…

By: greensucksbluerules

greensucksbluerules — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:32:45 +0000

You’re off Fenix. The character’s name is the JOKER, he’s supposed to be goofy. And both of them find murder hilarious.

By: Fenix

Fenix — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:55:52 +0000

Look at this in actuality folks. Jack’s Joker is goofy and Heath’s is an agent of chaos. Jack’s tries to be funny and Heath’s makes you laugh even though he does horrific things. Jack’s Joker was a mobster in a suit and Heath’s was a complete psychopath who found violence and murder hillarious. These are from different time periods but I think everyone knows that Joker is Batman’s anti-thesis or polar opposite, in the Nolan series Joker is the chaos to Batman’s order. Heath was perfect and I only hope that they find someone who can pretend to be half as skilled at the role as Heath to carry on the role in the sequels.

Heath Ledger once said he was doing the role as a means of redeeming himself after brokeback mountain to his fans.

Heath wherever you are now, you are not only redeemed, you are an idea and you’ll live for ever. R. I. P.

By: greensucksbluerules

greensucksbluerules — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:17:22 +0000

Heath Ledger’s Joker had NOTHING in common with the comics Joker.

But because of his death, The Dark Knight became the most overrated movie of the year.

By: gungo lo wang

gungo lo wang — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:02:55 +0000

If ledger was still alive not many people will care, but since he is dead he is getting all these sympothy votes for being better. Yes, sympothy votes are real and still being used today. This is evidence.

By: ILOVEHEATHLEDGER

ILOVEHEATHLEDGER — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:56:11 +0000

HEATH LEDGER was 100% better than jack nicholson…hes so much cooler..he got really into character..jacknicholson was not good..heath ledger really made the movie good..i dont think anyone else couldve made a better joekr than him..hes DEFINITELY the best.!!!..
R.I.P HEATH LEDGER
we will never forget you

By: ishar

ishar — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:16:56 +0000

They are very different viewings of the same character, buy i have to honestly bow before ledger, he really make a super-villian of the joker, twisted, crazed, absolutely unbound… :) yep, hurray for ledger and incredibly sorry, DEP :(

By: jkrpgdude

jkrpgdude — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:14:58 +0000

heath was awsome… indeed he did play a new favorite character in my view, and that character was definately pretending to be but wasn’t, the joker. was it better than jacks joker … yes… but was it the joker… no

By: jkrpgdude

jkrpgdude — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:05:33 +0000

Ceaser Romero: classical skeemer / prankster
C.R= Bozo the clown combined with scooby doo style villan
(Funniest)

Jack Nicholson: Fun loving Killer / Cold hearted mobster
J.N.= Ronald McDonald combined with ScarFace
(Classiest)

Heath Ledger : Psychotically obsessed Cynical wild-dog
H.L.= Feels a lot like brandon lee playing the crow ( the crow looks like a mime from hell… and a mime is a theatrical clown ).
(Scariest)

though i loved the performances of all three it almost seems like they were playing three different parts

though the actor means a lot in the translation of the character one must realize the director is the deciding factor. heath and jack could’ve played each others roles quite well in this saga, but i could’t possibly see either play cesar’s version. i also could’t see cesar playing either of the two newer darker versions. cesar was not bad but he was not my favorite. and i can’t possibly deside between jack and heath. so i think i simply have to go with jacks version… since it seems to best match with the comic book series which i was once a huge fan of.

i loved all three.

heaths role will go down in history but lets not forget who first carved the path in such a dark direction, jack

Most Kid friendly version for parents to show youngsters: Ceasar
favorite joker: jack
More Talent in general: heath

By: Josh Knigga

Josh Knigga — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:44:04 +0000

Miguelangelo, the thing is, the joker isn’t a funny comedian.

By: miguelangelo

miguelangelo — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:19:49 +0000

They (Jack & Heath), have performed 2 different Joker’s.

Jack play the funny/comic Joker and Heath play the bad/horror Joker.
Two different Joker’s to me.. Two different things..

By: bjorkman

bjorkman — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:03:00 +0000

Nicholson’s joker didn’t have extended dialog. His joker scenes were often very short, and he’d quip a line, then walk off camera. A few scenes just had him dancing to bad music. So what?

Heath’s had extended dialog, like the hospital scene, and the holding cell. These scenes must have taken enormous amounts of emotional energy to sustain the character.

Having said that, I think that Jack Nicholson should have had a chance to compete for the role. Even if they picked Heath, there would still be elements to the Joker that Jack could refresh during the auditions, and at least give deeper complexity to Heath’s winning character.

By: Cait

Cait — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:47:31 +0000

Actually I do believe that without Jack Heath would have played it the same way- because I don’t believe he ever saw Jack’s Joker and was never into Batman at all before he started making the Dark Knight

In an interview he stated that he just read the script and knew where he wanted to go with the character- and when he took his ideas to Nolan they just had the exact same vision of the Joker.

So I repeat: He wasn’t expounding on Jack’s version of the Joker, this was all his.

By: jim

jim — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:41:01 +0000

How easily they forget. At the time Jack’s Joker was groundbreaking. He DID portray madness, and at times it really was subtle and creepy. It’s just that now it’s old hat. Back then when people outside of comic book fandom thought of the Joker they thought of Romero’s 60’s TV Batman. Jack brought a darkness “Wait’ll they get a load of me…” and evil to the Joker that wasn’t seen in live action prior to the 89 movie.
As time marches on, different becomes cliche, but put yourself back in that time period when Burton’s Batman was considered dark and more adult. And don’t try to tell me that without Jack Heath would’ve played it the way he did. Heath was awesome, but he was naturally extending Jack’s character.

By: The Laughing man

The Laughing man — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:26:22 +0000

I’m not gonna start the Jack vs. ledger Crap … any reader of the comics could easily pick the better one…

now on to the actual subject

This video, wasn’t too bad. I’ve seen worse.

By: Leo Stawicki

Leo Stawicki — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:02:31 +0000

Nicholson simply improved the Joker of TV fame. Ledger Played it as it was Meant to be. Ledger had it harder, because where do you go with the Joker, after Jack has done it?? Well….Ledger took it to a new level. Nicholson was actually outraged that he was not offered the role in DK. Is he crazy? Jack is 70 years old! That, and the fact that he never was right for it. Historically, The Joker was Thin, young, and had a full head of hair….just the opposite of nicholson! Ledger WAS the Joker!

By: Crazeh

Crazeh — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:20:30 +0000

I like them both equally. Heath’s is more realistic, Nicholson’s is more eccentric and colorful. That being said, I wasn’t in the least creeped out by Ledger’s performance. I found myself, and the audience laughing at him a lot. I know some parts were meant to be funny, but all in all, you aren’t supposed to be feeling that light hearted while watching him say those lines. NIcholson really scared me more when I was younger, the way he took that buzzer and fried the guy while laughing wildly and danced around while people were dying. I liked how he had the added plot of being the one who killed Batman’s dad. Anyway, major props to Heath, RIP

By: Cait

Cait — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:04:05 +0000

WHOEVER wrote the comment that Heath had an easier job because Bale was a more serious Batman and therefore easier to work with/bounce the mood for his character off of is an IDIOT…

I’m sorry but it’s true.

Heath’s Joker ABSOLUTLEY blew me away when I saw it; it was beyond belief how amazing he was. His mannerisms (sucking on his scar tissue, licking his lips, the twitching and twisting in all the right places), the versatility of his voice, his laugh, even how he walked and fought was fabulous (especially when he was physically fighting Batman- all the jumping in psychotic excitment and shouting in morbid joy and uncontrolled shaking of his face).

I could go on and on and on and on…

Jack’s Joker was good for what it was, but you always recognized the character as being, underneath it all, Jack, whereas with Heath’s Joker you had to CONSTANTLY remind yourself that yes, there was in fact an actor beneath all the makeup and mannerisms.

I was never really a Ledger fan before I saw this movie, but now I can’t get enough (and contrary to popular belief it has nothing to do with his death, I would be just as blown away if he was alive today and just as eager to see more of his films). Now I just look back and am always amazed by the fact that the man who played in 10 Things I Hate About You is the same man who played the JOKER and was able to pull it off brilliantly. Haha, it’s just inconcievable to me that someone could have such skill…

Alright- enough of that! I don’t care if you agree or disagree, but IMO Heath’s Joker was BY FAR the best to date and probably one of the best performances an actor has ever given.

Give this man an Oscar!!!