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		<title>By: tekemoltotolki</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-466898</link>
		<dc:creator>tekemoltotolki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good movie</description>
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		<title>By: Dragonball Trailer in October &#124; cinematvnews.com</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-459561</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragonball Trailer in October &#124; cinematvnews.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Finale: Who Won So You Think You Can Dance Season Four? &#171; Cultural Learnings</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-449190</link>
		<dc:creator>Finale: Who Won So You Think You Can Dance Season Four? &#171; Cultural Learnings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one note shall be a great moment of happenstance: I&#8217;ll have to go back and listen to the particular episode of the /Filmcast where Adam and Dave viscerally tore apart Step Up 2 the Streets, but I am pretty sure that the idea [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one note shall be a great moment of happenstance: I&#8217;ll have to go back and listen to the particular episode of the /Filmcast where Adam and Dave viscerally tore apart Step Up 2 the Streets, but I am pretty sure that the idea [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Another New Outlander Trailer &#124; cinematvnews.com</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-434585</link>
		<dc:creator>Another New Outlander Trailer &#124; cinematvnews.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] /Filmcast Episode 8: Hellboy 2 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Gamble</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-434573</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Gamble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warren Ellis has written a Castlevania script as well for an animated film that is in production. Unlike Anderson, Ellis actually is a good writer and capable of presenting a worthy film adaptation of the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren Ellis has written a Castlevania script as well for an animated film that is in production. Unlike Anderson, Ellis actually is a good writer and capable of presenting a worthy film adaptation of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: JustForFun</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-434287</link>
		<dc:creator>JustForFun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Earlier, the elf prince uses the “I challenge you line” with the old king elf, what happens? He has to fight through the Elf King’s guards. Hellboy uses this same challenge but first, there is no way he should have knowledge of it since he was not there, and secondly, he gets to fight the elf prince one-on-one while the robotic soldiers stand by!"

Umm... The Elf prince gave a short speech after he put his crown on and asked if there was any who would challenge him, right in front of Hellboy and his crew. As for the robots standing by and the elves not, I just assumed that they went by a different code of combat and moved on. Seriously, it wasn't hard.

Anyway, I love Pan's Labyrinth, and hence Guillermo, but that doesn't mean I turned fanboy. I saw Hellboy AFTER I saw Pan's Labyrinth, was a little bored, and that was that. Hellboy II, however, rocks. I thought of it as a tasty snack before the main course on Friday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Earlier, the elf prince uses the “I challenge you line” with the old king elf, what happens? He has to fight through the Elf King’s guards. Hellboy uses this same challenge but first, there is no way he should have knowledge of it since he was not there, and secondly, he gets to fight the elf prince one-on-one while the robotic soldiers stand by!&#8221;</p>
<p>Umm&#8230; The Elf prince gave a short speech after he put his crown on and asked if there was any who would challenge him, right in front of Hellboy and his crew. As for the robots standing by and the elves not, I just assumed that they went by a different code of combat and moved on. Seriously, it wasn&#8217;t hard.</p>
<p>Anyway, I love Pan&#8217;s Labyrinth, and hence Guillermo, but that doesn&#8217;t mean I turned fanboy. I saw Hellboy AFTER I saw Pan&#8217;s Labyrinth, was a little bored, and that was that. Hellboy II, however, rocks. I thought of it as a tasty snack before the main course on Friday.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry crack corn and I don't care</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-434190</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry crack corn and I don't care</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I pulled from that reply is that you misspelled "damn". Ahahaha, you can't spell damn right, ahaha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I pulled from that reply is that you misspelled &#8220;damn&#8221;. Ahahaha, you can&#8217;t spell damn right, ahaha!</p>
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		<title>By: rus</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-434066</link>
		<dc:creator>rus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, great show again. 
I had to stop the podcast because I wanted to see Hellboy before listening to the full
discussion. I must say this film is nothing more than visual eye candy and I don?t agree
with the reviews from your site and the 88% Rotten Tomatoes approval. Answer me this,
how is this monster movie not just as grossly misplotted and underdeveloped from a story
and character perspective as a Van Helsing, and Transformers. The monsters in this film
are obviously motivated by a desire to do a cool thingies and have nothing to do with an
overall story. What was the overall point of the plant monster and the winged, multiple
eyed thingy? (I?m really getting tired of global warming being referenced in every film
like the commies were in the films from the 50s and 60s) When you have all of these
different monsters that are presented with awesome powers the overall affect is to dilute
the entire cast of villains.
The personal interaction between Hellboy and his clan are laughable and don?t take us
deeper in to his mythology. Can you even remember any positive and creative choices made
in the film that defined him as a hero?, I can?t. Plot devices and story direction are
given to him and he does nothing to earn them. This film felt like Pan’s Labyrinth 2 and
Del Toro is following the same path as his friend Robert Rodriguez were they try to cover
their poor story development with crazy visuals. I guess what I?m saying is Del Toro is
the best Art Director ever because you all drank the kool aid.
As far as CG, Del Toro did nothing to fix the problem with the rubber masks limiting the
movement of lips on Hellboy (young and old) he talked about in the first films DVD?!
I?m really begining too worried about The Hobbit (Del Toro set to do in 2 parts).

I must say to all, I did enjoy Hellboy II more than bad versions of visual eye candy movies like Van Helsen and Transformers. I’m just amazed how the aesthetic choices in this Del Toro feature cover such bad story and character development. I was thinking later about the ONE big hero moment for Hellboy is completely illogical. Earlier, the elf prince uses the “I challenge you line” with the old king elf, what happens? He has to fight through the Elf King’s guards. Hellboy uses this same challenge but first, there is no way he should have knowledge of it since he was not there, and secondly, he gets to fight the elf prince one-on-one while the robotic soldiers stand by! I know there is a certain leap of faith and loose ends in these types of movies yet the heroic climax of this film was totally wasted. The multi-eyed winged thingy is another example of poor character development, why is Hellboy not remotely active in the decision to go to this spot, why is everything given to the Hellboy’s clan – “Go here” “Proclaim your love here” “Now I shall remove the shard for you”. These are first year screenplay writing mistakes. Compare this to GOOD comic book movie situations where the hero and villains are active and doing things that allow us to understand their internal workings more. Like Peter Park allowing the robber to go, Peter Park struggles with making a living or selling out, the love triangle in X-men, the development of the Joker’s character in the Burton Batman. Why are you guys giving this movie a pass? Just admit you are hypnotized by the shining object. We need to demand more from these movies or they will continue to be watered down.

oh, and for the CG nerds out there the problem with rubber masks limiting Hellboy’s lips is driving me crazy and I feel betrayed by Del Toro! Why was this not fixed after the first film, he talked about it! He CGs Abe’s eyes, what, too lazy to do a couple scenes with Hellboy’s lips - much more important to making the audience identify with Hellboy. Lazy ass Spaniard! He missed a great opportunity on the awkward non-kiss scene! What was that? Head touch? What, was the studio scared about bestiality overtones? No, they didn’t spend the time and money to do it right and knew they couldn’t with rubber lips. Why didn’t they comically stretch Hellboys lips out for a big pucker? Dam, f*ck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, great show again.<br />
I had to stop the podcast because I wanted to see Hellboy before listening to the full<br />
discussion. I must say this film is nothing more than visual eye candy and I don?t agree<br />
with the reviews from your site and the 88% Rotten Tomatoes approval. Answer me this,<br />
how is this monster movie not just as grossly misplotted and underdeveloped from a story<br />
and character perspective as a Van Helsing, and Transformers. The monsters in this film<br />
are obviously motivated by a desire to do a cool thingies and have nothing to do with an<br />
overall story. What was the overall point of the plant monster and the winged, multiple<br />
eyed thingy? (I?m really getting tired of global warming being referenced in every film<br />
like the commies were in the films from the 50s and 60s) When you have all of these<br />
different monsters that are presented with awesome powers the overall affect is to dilute<br />
the entire cast of villains.<br />
The personal interaction between Hellboy and his clan are laughable and don?t take us<br />
deeper in to his mythology. Can you even remember any positive and creative choices made<br />
in the film that defined him as a hero?, I can?t. Plot devices and story direction are<br />
given to him and he does nothing to earn them. This film felt like Pan’s Labyrinth 2 and<br />
Del Toro is following the same path as his friend Robert Rodriguez were they try to cover<br />
their poor story development with crazy visuals. I guess what I?m saying is Del Toro is<br />
the best Art Director ever because you all drank the kool aid.<br />
As far as CG, Del Toro did nothing to fix the problem with the rubber masks limiting the<br />
movement of lips on Hellboy (young and old) he talked about in the first films DVD?!<br />
I?m really begining too worried about The Hobbit (Del Toro set to do in 2 parts).</p>
<p>I must say to all, I did enjoy Hellboy II more than bad versions of visual eye candy movies like Van Helsen and Transformers. I’m just amazed how the aesthetic choices in this Del Toro feature cover such bad story and character development. I was thinking later about the ONE big hero moment for Hellboy is completely illogical. Earlier, the elf prince uses the “I challenge you line” with the old king elf, what happens? He has to fight through the Elf King’s guards. Hellboy uses this same challenge but first, there is no way he should have knowledge of it since he was not there, and secondly, he gets to fight the elf prince one-on-one while the robotic soldiers stand by! I know there is a certain leap of faith and loose ends in these types of movies yet the heroic climax of this film was totally wasted. The multi-eyed winged thingy is another example of poor character development, why is Hellboy not remotely active in the decision to go to this spot, why is everything given to the Hellboy’s clan – “Go here” “Proclaim your love here” “Now I shall remove the shard for you”. These are first year screenplay writing mistakes. Compare this to GOOD comic book movie situations where the hero and villains are active and doing things that allow us to understand their internal workings more. Like Peter Park allowing the robber to go, Peter Park struggles with making a living or selling out, the love triangle in X-men, the development of the Joker’s character in the Burton Batman. Why are you guys giving this movie a pass? Just admit you are hypnotized by the shining object. We need to demand more from these movies or they will continue to be watered down.</p>
<p>oh, and for the CG nerds out there the problem with rubber masks limiting Hellboy’s lips is driving me crazy and I feel betrayed by Del Toro! Why was this not fixed after the first film, he talked about it! He CGs Abe’s eyes, what, too lazy to do a couple scenes with Hellboy’s lips - much more important to making the audience identify with Hellboy. Lazy ass Spaniard! He missed a great opportunity on the awkward non-kiss scene! What was that? Head touch? What, was the studio scared about bestiality overtones? No, they didn’t spend the time and money to do it right and knew they couldn’t with rubber lips. Why didn’t they comically stretch Hellboys lips out for a big pucker? Dam, f*ck!</p>
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		<title>By: krackajap</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-434039</link>
		<dc:creator>krackajap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Hellsing Ultimate OVAs are 100000x better than anything the TV series has done.  The only problem with them is they come out wwaayyy too slow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Hellsing Ultimate OVAs are 100000x better than anything the TV series has done.  The only problem with them is they come out wwaayyy too slow.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry crack corn and I don't care</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-433953</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry crack corn and I don't care</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hellboy 2 was excellent, despite stealing the babies on the way sub plot from Shrek 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hellboy 2 was excellent, despite stealing the babies on the way sub plot from Shrek 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Devindra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devindra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krackajap, that's an interesting thought, although the Hellsing TV series never really appealed to me too much. Still need to check out the OAVs.

Personally, I'd much rather del Toro take on Vampire Hunter D, perhaps something along the lines of the kick ass VHD: Bloodlust ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krackajap, that&#8217;s an interesting thought, although the Hellsing TV series never really appealed to me too much. Still need to check out the OAVs.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d much rather del Toro take on Vampire Hunter D, perhaps something along the lines of the kick ass VHD: Bloodlust ;)</p>
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		<title>By: LiviuX</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-433768</link>
		<dc:creator>LiviuX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not such a good movie.</description>
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		<title>By: fex watson</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-433756</link>
		<dc:creator>fex watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam seems like an A$$hat. Don't tell somebody what reasonable to expect from a movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam seems like an A$$hat. Don&#8217;t tell somebody what reasonable to expect from a movie.</p>
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		<title>By: krackajap</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-433753</link>
		<dc:creator>krackajap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you guys seem to love what Guillermo del Toro has done with Hellboy and Blade and also seem to like anime, what would you guys think about him directing a live action Hellsing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you guys seem to love what Guillermo del Toro has done with Hellboy and Blade and also seem to like anime, what would you guys think about him directing a live action Hellsing?</p>
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		<title>By: kPong</title>
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		<dc:creator>kPong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the first few seasons of Batman the Animated series were not as well done. The later seasons were vastly improved in the respect of animation.

Hold onto em Dave!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the first few seasons of Batman the Animated series were not as well done. The later seasons were vastly improved in the respect of animation.</p>
<p>Hold onto em Dave!</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-433712</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#60;3 Hellboy 2

Pitt and DiCaprio are Tarantino's Bastards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;3 Hellboy 2</p>
<p>Pitt and DiCaprio are Tarantino&#8217;s Bastards?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-433705</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Hellboy 2 was ok but not great, I was more entertained by Journey To The Center Of The Earth In 3D. Hellboy 2 felt a little to long to me and I was geting bored in a few places in the movie. I would give Hellboy 2 a C+ and Journey To The Center Of The Earth a B-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Hellboy 2 was ok but not great, I was more entertained by Journey To The Center Of The Earth In 3D. Hellboy 2 felt a little to long to me and I was geting bored in a few places in the movie. I would give Hellboy 2 a C+ and Journey To The Center Of The Earth a B-</p>
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		<title>By: JFK</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/15/filmcast-episode-8-hellboy-2/#comment-433702</link>
		<dc:creator>JFK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>File this under: Commentary Tracks of the Damned</description>
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