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	<title>Comments on: Guillermo del Toro on Turning Down Se7en</title>
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		<title>By: 790</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/11/guillermo-del-toro-on-turning-down-se7en/#comment-430628</link>
		<dc:creator>790</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I must have repressed the fact that she was expecting.   Ugh what a dark film.     I have to also repress that Spacey was the evil scum in that film.  

 He redeemed himself in "American Beauty" and "Kpax"......  And then became Lex Luthor.   Ah Spacey,,,,he toys with my emotions, the bastard.     ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I must have repressed the fact that she was expecting.   Ugh what a dark film.     I have to also repress that Spacey was the evil scum in that film.  </p>
<p> He redeemed himself in &#8220;American Beauty&#8221; and &#8220;Kpax&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;  And then became Lex Luthor.   Ah Spacey,,,,he toys with my emotions, the bastard.     ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Awesome</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/11/guillermo-del-toro-on-turning-down-se7en/#comment-430616</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Awesome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah and that's what really grabbed people. She played such a sweet person in the film. She was the only "light" throughout the whole movie.

So when she gets taken away from us. People just had a very hard time of handling it. Some got very angry, while others couldn't believe it. Especially when you found out she was expecting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah and that&#8217;s what really grabbed people. She played such a sweet person in the film. She was the only &#8220;light&#8221; throughout the whole movie.</p>
<p>So when she gets taken away from us. People just had a very hard time of handling it. Some got very angry, while others couldn&#8217;t believe it. Especially when you found out she was expecting.</p>
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		<title>By: 790</title>
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		<dc:creator>790</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Captain Awesome maybe I just got to carried away with the acting (it was good) I remember watching the film and thinking (I forgot the names) Pitts wife is sooo gonna get killed and then at the end she does and Freemans like "no he has rights don't touch him". 
 That just really pissed me off.   ;-)

 It was a well done chilling film but also one that "for me" has no rewatchability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Captain Awesome maybe I just got to carried away with the acting (it was good) I remember watching the film and thinking (I forgot the names) Pitts wife is sooo gonna get killed and then at the end she does and Freemans like &#8220;no he has rights don&#8217;t touch him&#8221;.<br />
 That just really pissed me off.   ;-)</p>
<p> It was a well done chilling film but also one that &#8220;for me&#8221; has no rewatchability.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Awesome</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/11/guillermo-del-toro-on-turning-down-se7en/#comment-430473</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Awesome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>790,

Not really since Pitt's character was exactly those types of officers you speak of and Morgan Freeman's character was the anti-thesis to that type of mindset. Freeman was doing his best to teach Pitt to be more of a "thinker" than have a beat-cop mentality. Which was the point of the whole film really. Remember the comment Freeman made to the Swat guys when they broke into the house?

For a film that doesn't show you much or nothing at all. Has more impact to me than most of the beaten-over-the-head films most films get pushed out the door today. Not everything has such a direct or happy ending, even in real life.

Just like the classics by Hitchcock or Rod Serling. The psychological design of Se7en is what gives it so much replayability for me. It's a perfect film from start to finish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>790,</p>
<p>Not really since Pitt&#8217;s character was exactly those types of officers you speak of and Morgan Freeman&#8217;s character was the anti-thesis to that type of mindset. Freeman was doing his best to teach Pitt to be more of a &#8220;thinker&#8221; than have a beat-cop mentality. Which was the point of the whole film really. Remember the comment Freeman made to the Swat guys when they broke into the house?</p>
<p>For a film that doesn&#8217;t show you much or nothing at all. Has more impact to me than most of the beaten-over-the-head films most films get pushed out the door today. Not everything has such a direct or happy ending, even in real life.</p>
<p>Just like the classics by Hitchcock or Rod Serling. The psychological design of Se7en is what gives it so much replayability for me. It&#8217;s a perfect film from start to finish.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/11/guillermo-del-toro-on-turning-down-se7en/#comment-430434</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A remake for Seven would be a disaster regardless who it is. 

the movie is perfect the way it is :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A remake for Seven would be a disaster regardless who it is. </p>
<p>the movie is perfect the way it is :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/11/guillermo-del-toro-on-turning-down-se7en/#comment-430419</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 03:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as much as I love del toro, I just couldnt imagine it without Fincher's gritty direction. Too bad they couldn't have two versions of the film by both the directors ala "Exorcist the beginning and Dominion".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as much as I love del toro, I just couldnt imagine it without Fincher&#8217;s gritty direction. Too bad they couldn&#8217;t have two versions of the film by both the directors ala &#8220;Exorcist the beginning and Dominion&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kip Mooney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kip Mooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 03:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Did you just call Fincher a hack? And the script to Se7en that? Really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Did you just call Fincher a hack? And the script to Se7en that? Really?</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/11/guillermo-del-toro-on-turning-down-se7en/#comment-428995</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm just glad he can call himself 'a romantic, fat bastard' &#38; still be taken seriously. I don't know if I would have enjoyed the film as much, but I can't really judge it, since it was never made. Glad he moved onto other things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just glad he can call himself &#8216;a romantic, fat bastard&#8217; &amp; still be taken seriously. I don&#8217;t know if I would have enjoyed the film as much, but I can&#8217;t really judge it, since it was never made. Glad he moved onto other things.</p>
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		<title>By: MJM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Del Toro can not make English spoken pictures. His only good films are in his native tongue. Saying that, I'd love to see a Spanish remake of Se7en.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Del Toro can not make English spoken pictures. His only good films are in his native tongue. Saying that, I&#8217;d love to see a Spanish remake of Se7en.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/11/guillermo-del-toro-on-turning-down-se7en/#comment-428360</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Del Toro must have just seen what a piece of shit script it was and said "Just hand this to a piece of shit director."  Wise move on his part, Fincher is a hack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Del Toro must have just seen what a piece of shit script it was and said &#8220;Just hand this to a piece of shit director.&#8221;  Wise move on his part, Fincher is a hack.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why would they remake this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why would they remake this</p>
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		<title>By: 790</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/11/guillermo-del-toro-on-turning-down-se7en/#comment-428067</link>
		<dc:creator>790</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One prob I had with se7en was the ending. 
Everyone on the force would have looked the other way as Pitts character beat the living shit out of Spacey.   Gimme a break. 
 
For me se7en has a "0"  rewatchability factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One prob I had with se7en was the ending.<br />
Everyone on the force would have looked the other way as Pitts character beat the living shit out of Spacey.   Gimme a break. </p>
<p>For me se7en has a &#8220;0&#8243;  rewatchability factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Kip Mooney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kip Mooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like del Toro says, he's too "hopeful" a director for such a bleak tale as Se7en.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like del Toro says, he&#8217;s too &#8220;hopeful&#8221; a director for such a bleak tale as Se7en.</p>
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		<title>By: HoleInTheBucket</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/11/guillermo-del-toro-on-turning-down-se7en/#comment-427847</link>
		<dc:creator>HoleInTheBucket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of all the directors a lot of people think are great, Del Toro is the one I just don't understand why people swing from his nuts so often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of all the directors a lot of people think are great, Del Toro is the one I just don&#8217;t understand why people swing from his nuts so often.</p>
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		<title>By: ANGRY BROOMSTICK!!!!!!!!!!</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/11/guillermo-del-toro-on-turning-down-se7en/#comment-427822</link>
		<dc:creator>ANGRY BROOMSTICK!!!!!!!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not all filmmakers have principles like that, so kudos to him for taking a stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not all filmmakers have principles like that, so kudos to him for taking a stand.</p>
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		<title>By: orange cinema</title>
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		<dc:creator>orange cinema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seeing inside the box would've ruined things.  it's the old hitchcock move - what you don't see is worse than what you do see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seeing inside the box would&#8217;ve ruined things.  it&#8217;s the old hitchcock move - what you don&#8217;t see is worse than what you do see.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Se7en would never been nearly as great with a different director.  Fincher was the perfect director for that movie.  Del Torro is all wrong for that movie even today.  The tone, pace, and character portrayals in that movie were near perfect.  Del Toro probably would have made a more conventional movie which would make it far more generic.

Fincher was brave enough to have serial killer who even when the movie ends, we know virtually nothing about what made him what he was other than his disdain for today's morality, killed off the main love interest, and sent the main character to jail.  Most directors and studios would never keep those daring (especially at the time the film was made) plot moves.  Especially at the time when this movie was made, studios wanted serial killers to have backstories and happy endings.  I think Del Toro is admitting he wouldn't have been so daring back then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Se7en would never been nearly as great with a different director.  Fincher was the perfect director for that movie.  Del Torro is all wrong for that movie even today.  The tone, pace, and character portrayals in that movie were near perfect.  Del Toro probably would have made a more conventional movie which would make it far more generic.</p>
<p>Fincher was brave enough to have serial killer who even when the movie ends, we know virtually nothing about what made him what he was other than his disdain for today&#8217;s morality, killed off the main love interest, and sent the main character to jail.  Most directors and studios would never keep those daring (especially at the time the film was made) plot moves.  Especially at the time when this movie was made, studios wanted serial killers to have backstories and happy endings.  I think Del Toro is admitting he wouldn&#8217;t have been so daring back then.</p>
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		<title>By: A Better Class of Criminal</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Better Class of Criminal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If DelToro had directed se7en, John Doe would have been an animorphic troll...
Thank God he didn't accept, Se7en is a classic and one of my all time favorite movies. The genius of Fincher was that he didn't show us everything.

One thing I don't get is DelToro saying he's not cynical...
The vast majority of DT's movies are incredibly dark and cynical, I don't get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If DelToro had directed se7en, John Doe would have been an animorphic troll&#8230;<br />
Thank God he didn&#8217;t accept, Se7en is a classic and one of my all time favorite movies. The genius of Fincher was that he didn&#8217;t show us everything.</p>
<p>One thing I don&#8217;t get is DelToro saying he&#8217;s not cynical&#8230;<br />
The vast majority of DT&#8217;s movies are incredibly dark and cynical, I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabrice D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabrice D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite agree with the people who said he wasnt ready back then to direct such a film, but what makes me tick is his excuse, he says that the vision of the world is cynical in Se7en, yet isn't Hellboy one of the most cynical super-heros ever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite agree with the people who said he wasnt ready back then to direct such a film, but what makes me tick is his excuse, he says that the vision of the world is cynical in Se7en, yet isn&#8217;t Hellboy one of the most cynical super-heros ever?</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love del Toro, but also love Fincher, I think it worked out well in the end.  Fincher nailed it and started a great working relationship with Brad Pitt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love del Toro, but also love Fincher, I think it worked out well in the end.  Fincher nailed it and started a great working relationship with Brad Pitt&#8230;</p>
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