Comments on: The Dark Knight is Breaking IMAX Records http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/ Blogging the Reel World Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:41:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: The Dark Knight is Breaking IMAX Records : Kristian Gabriel Films Official Website http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-438536 The Dark Knight is Breaking IMAX Records : Kristian Gabriel Films Official Website Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:03:10 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-438536 [...] Read The Full Story [...] [...] Read The Full Story [...]

]]> By: eric http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-434167 eric Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:28:51 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-434167 The Batman Begins Blu-Ray has the bank robbery IMAX scene from Dark Knight. It looked amazing and filled the whole 16:9 screen. 4K should be amazing if they encode it at 4K. If they release only a 2K encoded digital file I doubt upconverting it would be an improvement. Any one know if Dark Knight or and new movies are encoded in 4k files? I am sure the Imax scenes will be great, but the 35mm scenes, most of the movie, will be even more grainy on a giant IMAX screen, so I bought tickets for the 2k digital show near me, rather than driving to Milwaukee of Chicago to see it on IMAX of 4k. The Batman Begins Blu-Ray has the bank robbery IMAX scene from Dark Knight. It looked amazing and filled the whole 16:9 screen.
4K should be amazing if they encode it at 4K. If they release only a 2K encoded digital file I doubt upconverting it would be an improvement.
Any one know if Dark Knight or and new movies are encoded in 4k files?
I am sure the Imax scenes will be great, but the 35mm scenes, most of the movie, will be even more grainy on a giant IMAX screen, so I bought tickets for the 2k digital show near me, rather than driving to Milwaukee of Chicago to see it on IMAX of 4k.

]]> By: matt http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-432202 matt Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:21:25 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-432202 i live in chicago, and i will probably go to imax to see tdk (if the aspect ratio changes during certain scenes, i will probably think it's distracting and lame). but have you experts had the opportunity to see a movie in 4k digital? if not, maybe you should. i've seen plenty of movies in both imax and, in the past 6 months, in 4k, and 4k is mind-bendingly good. but i have not come to digital easily. i love film. i always believed that movies should be shown on film. i saw my first digital movie back in 99 (bicentennial man in what i think was 1k). it sucked hard, and i didn't go back for many years. but i have to tell you, there is nothing that comes close to the rock-solid, edge-to-edge clarity and pop of 4k. once you see it, you will never look at film the same way. i live in chicago, and i will probably go to imax to see tdk (if the aspect ratio changes during certain scenes, i will probably think it’s distracting and lame). but have you experts had the opportunity to see a movie in 4k digital? if not, maybe you should. i’ve seen plenty of movies in both imax and, in the past 6 months, in 4k, and 4k is mind-bendingly good. but i have not come to digital easily. i love film. i always believed that movies should be shown on film. i saw my first digital movie back in 99 (bicentennial man in what i think was 1k). it sucked hard, and i didn’t go back for many years. but i have to tell you, there is nothing that comes close to the rock-solid, edge-to-edge clarity and pop of 4k. once you see it, you will never look at film the same way.

]]> By: Geek News Roundup - Week Ending July 12, 2008 » Great White Snark http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-430606 Geek News Roundup - Week Ending July 12, 2008 » Great White Snark Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:18:53 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-430606 [...] Dark Knight will open on a record number of IMAX [...] [...] Dark Knight will open on a record number of IMAX [...]

]]> By: Crime doesn’t pay (unless you do it right) « What Is Techno Again? http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-428587 Crime doesn’t pay (unless you do it right) « What Is Techno Again? Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:30:03 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-428587 [...] /Film also has some incredible news about TDK’s IMAX showings. It’s crazy! And according to [...] [...] /Film also has some incredible news about TDK’s IMAX showings. It’s crazy! And according to [...]

]]> By: marco0782 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-428044 marco0782 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:13:57 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-428044 The aspect ratio switching sounds like a bad idea. They should have matted down the IMAX image to 2.40:1 to match the anamorphic 35mm. First, it will be jarring to viewers at the IMAX theatre to switch back and forth (unless this was considered in editing and somehow the editing makes the transitions less noticeable). Second, when the movie comes out on DVD/Blu-Ray it will have to be matted down anyway so that the IMAX moments don't play squished on your widescreen TV. The aspect ratio switching sounds like a bad idea. They should have matted down the IMAX image to 2.40:1 to match the anamorphic 35mm. First, it will be jarring to viewers at the IMAX theatre to switch back and forth (unless this was considered in editing and somehow the editing makes the transitions less noticeable). Second, when the movie comes out on DVD/Blu-Ray it will have to be matted down anyway so that the IMAX moments don’t play squished on your widescreen TV.

]]> By: clownspy http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-427692 clownspy Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:30:15 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-427692 IMAX San Antonio at the Palladium is also doing the 72 hour straight Dark Knight thing. And in true SA fashion, they're giving out free breakfast tacos to the loons who go see it from 4-8am on Friday morning. Gotta love San Antonians....we'll do anything for a free taco. IMAX San Antonio at the Palladium is also doing the 72 hour straight Dark Knight thing.

And in true SA fashion, they’re giving out free breakfast tacos to the loons who go see it from 4-8am on Friday morning.

Gotta love San Antonians….we’ll do anything for a free taco.

]]> By: Captain Awesome http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-427472 Captain Awesome Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:38:39 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-427472 "Maybe in another 5-10 years we can get closer to that type of resolution found on celluloid?" I meant films being put on disc. “Maybe in another 5-10 years we can get closer to that type of resolution found on celluloid?”

I meant films being put on disc.

]]> By: Captain Awesome http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-427466 Captain Awesome Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:34:28 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-427466 chris, Pretty much. Celluloid has a massive high-res raw image quality that has yet to be fully unlocked in any of the modern mediums used today. It's why watching a film like Casablanca (fully-restored) looks fucking amazing and more crisp than an all-digital shot film made today. Maybe in another 5-10 years we can get closer to that type of resolution found on celluloid? I can dream right? chris,

Pretty much. Celluloid has a massive high-res raw image quality that has yet to be fully unlocked in any of the modern mediums used today. It’s why watching a film like Casablanca (fully-restored) looks fucking amazing and more crisp than an all-digital shot film made today.

Maybe in another 5-10 years we can get closer to that type of resolution found on celluloid?

I can dream right?

]]> By: chris http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-427134 chris Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:20:55 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-427134 I don't understand why people complain about seeing on film. instead wanting to see it in a digital theatre. Any film make could tell you how silly that is. It's like analogue vs digital: analogue can vary depending on source. Digital is either on or off. digital is always easier to work with but at times at the expense of qaulity No digital projector to date can outperform celluloid print in regards to picture qaulity. Why you ask? 35 mm film requires 10mp/4k resolution to create a digital copy with the same level of detail. Most films seen are trasnferred in 2k resolution or sometimes 4k Digital cinemas at the moment only do just above 2k resolution. Not many cinemas have 4k projectors. Film has 4x the resolution of digital. Imax has the highest resolution in the world being 10 000x 7000 pixels. The lighting latitude is unsurpassed. Imax and 35mm film have far higher contrast than digitals. The best commercial digital projectors in regards to contrast can do 10 000:1. Your looking at well over 30 000:1 on film. The only reason why digital cinema is being pushed is because of costs. A film reel costs $45 000 for 1 complete print. A digital copy over secured network costs around $800. Do a little research and u'll realise the only real advantage of digital is non wearing image and at times clarity. Conclusion: For those who complain about film. stop and remember that the dark knight and 90% of films are recorded on celluloid. why? because they carry more detail. The digital cinemas are just showing electronic film footage. Look at star wars 2 and 3(2k digital) then watch batman begins (4k+celluloid film). Star Wars has less detail with the only asset being clarity. until your seeing 4k projectors in cinemas dont't choose a digital over film for qaulity. big problem is the negative celluloids are of really high qaulity. most is loss in trasffering to a positive. Films are scanned digitally then printed. These are my research and findings. these are my understanding alone thus i suggest do some research on celluloid vs digital. I don’t understand why people complain about seeing on film. instead wanting to see it in a digital theatre. Any film make could tell you how silly that is.

It’s like analogue vs digital:
analogue can vary depending on source. Digital is either on or off. digital is always easier to work with but at times at the expense of qaulity

No digital projector to date can outperform celluloid print in regards to picture qaulity. Why you ask?

35 mm film requires 10mp/4k resolution to create a digital copy with the same level of detail. Most films seen are trasnferred in 2k resolution or sometimes 4k

Digital cinemas at the moment only do just above 2k resolution. Not many cinemas have 4k projectors.

Film has 4x the resolution of digital.

Imax has the highest resolution in the world being 10 000x 7000 pixels. The lighting latitude is unsurpassed. Imax and 35mm film have far higher contrast than digitals. The best commercial digital projectors in regards to contrast can do 10 000:1. Your looking at well over 30 000:1 on film.

The only reason why digital cinema is being pushed is because of costs. A film reel costs $45 000 for 1 complete print. A digital copy over secured network costs around $800.

Do a little research and u’ll realise the only real advantage of digital is non wearing image and at times clarity.

Conclusion:
For those who complain about film. stop and remember that the dark knight and 90% of films are recorded on celluloid. why? because they carry more detail. The digital cinemas are just showing electronic film footage.

Look at star wars 2 and 3(2k digital) then watch batman begins (4k+celluloid film). Star Wars has less detail with the only asset being clarity. until your seeing 4k projectors in cinemas dont’t choose a digital over film for qaulity.

big problem is the negative celluloids are of really high qaulity. most is loss in trasffering to a positive. Films are scanned digitally then printed.

These are my research and findings. these are my understanding alone thus i suggest do some research on celluloid vs digital.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-426820 Jeff Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:41:04 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-426820 That is correct, Bob Dance, on the Blu-ray release anyway. More info here: http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1488 That is correct, Bob Dance, on the Blu-ray release anyway. More info here: http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1488

]]> By: Bob Dance http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-426813 Bob Dance Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:35:25 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-426813 I just watched the 5 minute IMAX clip from the Dark Knight on the Blu-Ray version of Batman Begins. I noticed that the imax footage filled my tv completely where as the 35mm footage from Begins was anamorphic. I assume that when Dark Knight comes out on Blu-ray / dvd the Imax scenes will not be cut off the top or bottom but the aspect ratio will change allowing for the full image (even though it is scaled down) to be viewable. Thats just my take on it. I just watched the 5 minute IMAX clip from the Dark Knight on the Blu-Ray version of Batman Begins. I noticed that the imax footage filled my tv completely where as the 35mm footage from Begins was anamorphic. I assume that when Dark Knight comes out on Blu-ray / dvd the Imax scenes will not be cut off the top or bottom but the aspect ratio will change allowing for the full image (even though it is scaled down) to be viewable.

Thats just my take on it.

]]> By: Mash http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-426751 Mash Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:40:17 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-426751 fantastic. Looking forward to the redesign now, as for the film. Damn you Americans.. I have to wait until the 27th to watch it over here in London due to work commitments and stupid friends. You guys are complaining about paying $15? I paid £26.00 for two IMAX tickets! Worth it though. I've never anticipated a film as much as this before fantastic.

Looking forward to the redesign now,

as for the film. Damn you Americans.. I have to wait until the 27th to watch it over here in London due to work commitments and stupid friends.

You guys are complaining about paying $15? I paid £26.00 for two IMAX tickets! Worth it though. I’ve never anticipated a film as much as this before

]]> By: Captain Awesome http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-426699 Captain Awesome Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:00:02 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-426699 Tim, Both of those films didn't use Imax cameras. TDK was recorded in various scenes using them. So the picture quality will not only be better but much more fitting on the Imax format. The perfect seating for an Imax film is the top, back, row. You can see the whole picture with no problem Tim,

Both of those films didn’t use Imax cameras. TDK was recorded in various scenes using them. So the picture quality will not only be better but much more fitting on the Imax format.

The perfect seating for an Imax film is the top, back, row. You can see the whole picture with no problem

]]> By: Jeff http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-426590 Jeff Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:04:33 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-426590 @Tim I completely agree about the screen size. I don't want to have to move my entire head around to see what's going on. And when you do that, you miss things. @Tim

I completely agree about the screen size. I don’t want to have to move my entire head around to see what’s going on. And when you do that, you miss things.

]]> By: Tim http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-426577 Tim Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:55:57 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-426577 I don't know. I have tickets to a regular screening on Friday, but I wasn't too keen on IMAX. I saw 300 and Beowulf 3D in IMAX, and was pretty disappointed both times. Not in the movies, but the experience. To me, no matter how far back you sit in the theater, the screen's just way too big. It was hard to focus on anywhere but the middle of the screen, which I suppose is the intent, but what else is widescreen for? Just periphery? I'll be happy when this comes out on blu. I don’t know. I have tickets to a regular screening on Friday, but I wasn’t too keen on IMAX. I saw 300 and Beowulf 3D in IMAX, and was pretty disappointed both times. Not in the movies, but the experience. To me, no matter how far back you sit in the theater, the screen’s just way too big. It was hard to focus on anywhere but the middle of the screen, which I suppose is the intent, but what else is widescreen for? Just periphery? I’ll be happy when this comes out on blu.

]]> By: agentbedhead.com - Starring Maggie Gyllenhaal as Heath Ledger http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-426479 agentbedhead.com - Starring Maggie Gyllenhaal as Heath Ledger Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:18:43 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-426479 [...] Dark Knight opens next Friday, and in all likelihood Warner execs all over Los Angeles are suffering premature ejaculations just [...] [...] Dark Knight opens next Friday, and in all likelihood Warner execs all over Los Angeles are suffering premature ejaculations just [...]

]]> By: Melvin http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-426427 Melvin Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:56:31 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-426427 I have 8 IMAX tickets for the opening night in Amsterdam (The Netherlands) we have only 1 IMAX theatre, It begin at 19:45 and the price for one ticket is € 14,5 euro that is almost $23,- I have 8 IMAX tickets for the opening night in Amsterdam (The Netherlands) we have only 1 IMAX theatre, It begin at 19:45 and the price for one ticket is € 14,5 euro that is almost $23,-

]]> By: Jeff http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-426422 Jeff Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:53:44 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-426422 Reels are obsolete. Theaters need to go digital. Reels are obsolete. Theaters need to go digital.

]]> By: Captain Awesome http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/10/the-dark-knight-is-breaking-imax-records/#comment-426387 Captain Awesome Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:39:34 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/?p=13005#comment-426387 15 Imax tickets on my desk as we speak. Me so horny! 15 Imax tickets on my desk as we speak.

Me so horny!

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