Several weeks ago, rumors circled offline once again that Robin would appear in the sequel to The Dark Knight. It reminded me of the “rumor waves” last year when everyone in the industry suddenly discovered The Long Halloween storyline and held it up as the script to Christopher Nolan’s second Batman sequel. According to StarPulse, Christian Bale not only considers Robin lame, he has threatened to remake The Machinist as a documentary if the character crosses his path…

“If Robin crops up in one of the new Batman films, I’ll be chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work.”

Some fans will be blinded by a premature warm happiness after reading, “one of the new Batman films,” but Nolan has insisted this a trilogy. No matter, we are of the agreement that not only should Robin be dismissed, the word “robin” in general should be banned from this franchise. It’s not dark enough, nor does it embolden comparisons to The Godfather 2, Heat, and an “extraordinary cinematic revolution” spelled out by 400,000 lit firecrackers. Actually, that last one is worthy of Robin. We josh.

Discuss: /Film welcomes the International Robin Fanclub’s “boycott TDK” campaign. Insomnia aside, should there by a similar franchise ban on Robin Williams? We’re not endorsing it.

via Vulture

  • Jake Nelson
    Robin would, not only ruin the batman "Trilogy"? But seriously fuck up all the respect I have for Christopher Nolan, or anyone else who could let such a homosexual thing happen...Good news to hear. Makes me happy.
  • Nicholas
    Best news I've heard all day!
    Robin would be some lame,
    and he would ruin this epic trilogy.
    Go Bale!
  • Captain Awesome
    I knew Robin wouldn't be in it. But then again, Bale was in Equilibrium.

    Yes, I will be beating this fucking horse until it comes back to life.
  • vadmspartan
    What if he had a really cool looking suit? Hmm?
  • YoungZe
    I don't know, i'm very sure that Nolan 'n Crew would make gold out of it.
  • JB
    I think they could work him into there. How dark would the next Batman be if the one shred of innocence left in the series died an epically gruesome death?
  • Captain Awesome
    The only Robin could look cool is if got a hold of a time machine. Went back in time, and beat Bruce Wayne in becoming Batman.
  • A Better Class of Criminal
    This is why I like Christian Bale as an actor... despite Equilibrium.

    You have no idea how glad I am to hear Robin won't play a part in the third film... As much as I respect Nolan, I have no clue how he could make Robin fit into this... and make him cool.

    By the way... Remaking The Machinist as a Documentary? Isn't that George Lucas' next movie?

    I kid...
  • Chimaera
    Awesome. Robin belongs in the old Adam West t.v. show where he completes the awesome silliness.

    The only way Robin would work in this franchise is if he is just as messed up and badass as Batman otherwise he can take his emo self elsewhere. This Batman has no limits and most def doesn't need a sidekick.

    Batman says, "Backup? What the hell is backup?"
  • Ghost
    I don't see anything wrong with Nightwing showing up. Sure we're talking about ROBIN and not Nightwing but it's the same guy only older. But it would just take away from the films, keep it focused on just Bruce.
  • Thankyoufor
    Bale ill suck your.....

    thankyoufor NO F****** BOY WONDER
  • J.D.
    Sounds like someone doesn't want to share the limelight.

    Robin could be introduced in a dark manner. Perhaps as a child left orphaned by one of Batman's botched rescue attempts.

    But yeah, I guess there's really no reason to bring him back.
  • McLovin
    i will now not watch the dark knight...


    /sarcasm
  • Agony
    There are only two reasons it would be bad to not have Robin in these versions, 1) then they couldn't kill him off and 2) then you'd never be able to do the Hush storyline. But since both Hush and the Long Halloween both involve so many of Batman's villains, they'd probably be a mess onscreen anyway.
  • Jim Cozad
    I heard Chris O'donnell wants to reprise the role..............................................jesus christ. Thank god.
  • Adam B.
    Robins a pussy anyway, Bale would just wined up beating the shit out of him for two hours....which I would still watch.
  • Mark
    At this time it makes no sense to have Robin in the franchise anyways.

    I can see years after the 3rd Nolan Batman film that they could come back and start a new Batman epic and maybe then it would make sense or maybe it won't but the point is that it doesn't make any sense at all to have Robin in this epic story arc.

    But if the did come back after the 3rd Batman I think it's plausible that as Bruce Wayne is getting older and there are more and more criminals that are sophisticated the he would need help.
  • Joe Newman
    robin, if done ever, should be done in the frank miller way.

    anyway robin doesn't need to be in these films now anyway they are good with just batman.
  • drmecha
    i'm going to sound lame for saying this, but there has never been a good version of robin onscreen. If nolan reinvented the character to fit with the style of his films, Robin could be amazing.
    Check out the version of Robin in Paul Pope's terrific "Batman: Year 100", where he DOESN'T wear a costume and fight with Batman, but instead communicates with him through an ear peice, while sitting in a van looking at screens and blue prints etc of the building Batman is infiltrating. Kind of a Mission: Impossible team.
  • The Cheat
    They should so bring back Chris O'Donnell for Robin! Not to mention the bat nipple suits...And Halle Barry can play Catwoman!

    There are some things not even Chris Nolan can fix.
  • /hardly working
    Rob?n ?s just so freak?ng queer. I mean, how the fuck does Batman hope to instill fear in murders and rapist with that queer fuck hanging around with that queer costume.

    Over and out.
  • John
    I think if they just had him show up as night wing. Maybe also he would have had a dad that was a wheel man for two face and gets killed. Then Whanye teaches him in the same way he was trained.
  • evan
    If Catwoman ever appears - it better frickin' be played by Angelina Jolie. She's the only biatch in that town that can hold Bale's jock (so-to-speak).
  • Snow Job
    I agree with Bale. Robin is comedic relief and should be left out of a serious movie "trilogy." Too me, it would kind of take away from the batman experience.
  • The Enchanted One
    Thank god
  • orange cinema
    thank god! the ONLY way robin could have the slightest chance of working would be if they made it one of the female robin's. even that would probably suck.

    i'm still not even sold on all the riddler rumors, but i know the nolan's will pimp it out.
  • John
    It would be cool if it was a set up nod like he had Dick come live with him in the 3rd one at the end. So you know the rest of the story so they would not have to tell it.
  • Mark
    I couldn't see even down the road that in this Batman world that Robin would be a traditional sidekick/partner.

    I think if he was introduced into this franchise then it would be more in the realm as a right hand man to Batman the way Alfred and Lucius Fox are, not as his partner in crime fighting.

    The only way that it would make any sense to me is if Batman takes in a kid with a similar situation as himself and takes him under his wing at some point trains and teaches as Ra's al Ghu did for him but for the right reasons.

    As I said before this Robin wouldn't be a sidekick but more a student and an intern that would help Batman on the detective end while also training and learning the trade that is Batman to maybe one day take over Batman for Bruce Wayne or maybe become his own costumed vigilante crime fighting hero.
  • REAL6
    Am i the only one you really liked Equilibrium???

    WTF?>??
  • Burt Ward
    +

    what about batgirl? we'd all love to see batgirl done right. i think Batman the Animated series did her perfectly.

    however, i don' t know if she'd translate well into this version of batman.

    if batman were done like sincity she'd fit in great.

    +
  • Kip
    Dude his parents die, how is that not dark. You can't convince me that Nolan couldn't write THE ultimate robin. I get that it doesn't fit in the story you want to tell, but don't put Mr. Grayson down. There's a dark twisted story to tell, a boy loses everything and embraces a man that has never wanted anything but justice for the loss of his own everything. Come on Nolan write the damn story.
  • igroveman
    unless robin was his hallucinatory, imaginatory, invisible dark, alter ego... keep him out. there comes a point that you have to remember a lot of these characters were invented back in the 1950's when artists were trying to capture kids eyes with bright colors in the Sunday morning papers or comic books.
  • Im sitting here trying to think of ways to make robin "cool" but no luck... Robin is about the same as giving batman a super dog sidekick, just no way to take it serious.
  • Jordan2099
    I think that honestly Bales comments regarding the direction of the bat-franchise and Robin in particular are pretty much baseless. He's not a fan of the source material, and that kind of kills him in terms of what he thinks would make a cool Batman flick, if you're not familiar with the comics, then I think that a more fair statement would be that "As so far as he has been portrayed in film, Robin sucks complete ass."

    The problem with Robin is how horribly Robin has been portrayed so far in film. The Burt Ward Robin was clearly a joke, but the terrible late 20's Robin that Chris O'Donnel portrayed, killed Robin as a film character.

    I think that done well, Robin brings an important part to the Batman character, Robin serves as a way to humanize Batman. Robin is a mirror for Wayne to look into and vice versa, Robin can see where a path obsessed with justice takes him, and Wayne see's what he missed out on in his youth. There's a reason that Robin remains a sidekick, he's needed.

    Robin in the Bruce Timm animated series never felt campy, and it opens doors down the road to bring in Jason Todd, and have Nightwing, and eventually Tim Drake. I can't imagine being interested in Batman comics without the supporting cast. A guy alone in a bat suit still not able to process his parents death 20 years after the fact is lame, and creepy. He requires the supporting cast to be able to expand his own character because he is such an isolationist. I understand the desire to make the "darkest" Batman film possible, but it does need to have human interaction that isn't tragic at points, it does need levity. Robin brings that. Just don't put him in the green shorts, or the little boots.
  • Vapor
    Good! We can live without a Robin.
    However I think that if anyone could pull it off it would be Nolan.

    REAL6:
    I really like Equilibrium also. Bale was great in it.
    It is a flawed gem to be honest. But still a gem. :)
  • Greyson
    1. Christian Bale has never done a bad movie. Equilibrium, The Machinist, The Prestige, Empire of the Sun, Swing Kids, American Psycho...did you know he was the voice of some Thomas guy in Pocahontas? The man is the best actor of this decade and can do no wrong.

    2. Sharing the name with Robin himself, I wouldn't mind seeing him in a future Batmas installment. Granted the role played by Chris O' Donnell were horrific, the old 60's was great, and like stated above, I'm sure Nolan could weave a great, dark story with Nightwing involved. And it wouldn't kill the franchise either.

    Now, if after this Batman trilogy is done, he went ahead and did an original Robin film, I'd put money on the fact that everyone here would see it.
  • YoungZe
    I say Kip is right. Robin is not such a bad character. Anyway, having that said, i wouldn't mind not to see him in future batman films.
  • Reason
    Jordan 2099 makes some good points...

    But fuck it man, Robin's just not gonna work at this juncture. Maybe if they make a 4,5, and 6.

    And now it sounds like we're talking about fucking Star Wars...
  • Meli
    I don't think there is a need for Robin in Nolan's Batman. We're
    watching the beginning of Batman it would be premature even in
    a third movie to add the Dick Grayson character.

    I think Nolan could pull it off if he was interested, but the character
    would definitely have to change because no one wants to see a
    repeat of the Batman & Robin debacle.

    Robin translates fine in the comic and in Batman the Animated
    Series, but I'm not sure we need him in a film. I'd rather skip the youth and go straight to Nightwing.
  • AJ
    For people who practically worship the ground Nolan walks on, you have no faith that he can pull Robin off. If they could make Robin work in a third (or fourth) installment then the studio could spin-off a Nightwing series so the same thing doesn't happen to Nolan's series as it did to Burton's.
  • krackajap
    I would love if Robin were to make an appearance somewhere. As long as he's done right. I agree on Jordan on this one. The relationship between Batman and Robin is important. Not only would there be so much to work with there, but it would also open up the possibility of a Nightwing spinoff.
  • Captain Awesome
    Batman is a loner. He doesn't need some obnoxious kid at his side.

    Nolan said plenty times he doesn't want his version to stray into the cartoon like caricatures found in other material. Which is evident from these two films so far. Robin is an unnecessary device in a story revolving around a great character like Batman.
  • Ok, so Robin is pretty integral in certain stories in the Batverse. But, not this one. He fits really well into certain Frank Miller stories. He belongs in certain aspects. But, he doesn't belong in this telling of Batman. I'm sure that, if Nolan decided to do it, it could possibly be cool, but I just keep my fingers crossed that he doesn't. I wouldn't mind seeing a hint of Nightwing or just hearing about another guy called Nightwing without actually seeing him just to satiate us fanboys. But, even being a hardcore Batman fanboy doesn't make me want to see Robin.

    Honestly, I'd like to see Two-Face be the core villain in the third flick and not much focus on anyone else. I think the Riddler is a cheap knock off and is very rarely written well and only written well as an aside. Him as the main villain in the third flick could knock it totally off kilter. Batman has a huge rogues gallery that works really well in the books...but, translating some of them to film (despite how well Scarecrow was done) would be really hard.
  • Robin is a bad idea for a Batman sidekick in this series.

    If they decide he needs and ally: The Oracle. Wheelchair bound Barbara Gordon running intel for Batman. She has her mobility taken from her like Batman had his parents taken from him. She's the power behind the cape, when Batman can't run everything into the computer and be in the field at the same time.

    Nightwing, Batgirl, Black Canary, Huntress... all worthy additions to the comics and animated series, but all would be in the field and take away what Batman's got: the power to get things done as one man against all.

    Thought I have to say... put Hitman Tommy Monaghan in a Batman movie and now you got a flick.
  • Melvin
    Who is Night Wing?
  • Captain Awesome
    Melvin,

    He's a budget version of Batman. Minus the cape and cowl. He also cries a lot because no one cares about him.

    Much like Vincent Gallo.
  • Kip
    Nightwing is Robin all grown'd up. They finally were making him interesting in the outsiders with Boomerang Jr. and a few other great off cast characters, then Infinite Crisis screwed all that up.
  • LJM
    I'm glad there's to be no Robin, but I think guys like "/hardly working" and "Jake Nelson" are just afraid they'll get aroused if they see a gymnastic pre-teen on the big screen. ;)
  • Grey
    i'd still see it.
  • Greyson
    Told ya.
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