I am in total agreement with the comments about Singer’s so-called vision of Superman being a recycle of Donner’s film. I liked X-Men, X-men 2 was okay, X3 was utter sh*t (I’m sorry–the film just totally ruined the whole franchise, and I am bitterly disappointed over that).

I hope the new Marvel studios gets the rights to all their properties back so they can tell the story in a more heroic fashion.

I don’t know what DC’s problem is. I loved the animation. Great stories, excellent character development. For some reason this talent is absent in the live movies. Why is that?

I have looked into Mark Millar’s Red Son book. VERY interesting take. Especially the ending. More plots of this type should be flourishing in the public mind.

If they decide to start over with a new idea, a fresh darker approach … they should really consider finding a new superman. Brandon Routh seems like a nice guy and all, but he is little cheesy and bland. Same with Spacy and Kate. Why cannot the producers, writers, and director go with an Alex Ross approach. Make our beloved character an actual superhero. Give him large broad shoulders … Hell, why not find a body builder at a random gym and see if he can act. Please do not go with another silly television heart throb for little girls to sell tickets. Get a brute, a man with a jaw, with structure. Someone that resembles strength and enables us to believe that he could actually be able to punch through a wall, to handle himself in situation involving incredible powers that could easily destroy Metropolis.

Please let us take this DC universe in the proper direction. Again, let’s have a hero that appears to be bold, powerful, and visually strong. We should really consider staying away from Brian’s flamboyant soap opera.

The Man of Steel should represent the inner strength in all of us. I feel that the next installment of Superman should be a type of hero that we all want to be, down deep inside. A figure that demonstrates self-sacrifice, reaching out to help the less fortunate and humbly does so without expecting anything in return. Do not bring back his child, do not make another love story between Lane and Kent. “Been there done that”. In fact, no Lex … maybe a cameo, but do not center the story around an stale conflict that everyone is bored of. Instead, please consider directing a movie about Superman that produces a figure that children and even older alike could look up to and be inspired by. I think Donner came close, but we need more suspense, action, and a factor consisting of FEAR. We need a threat that, perhaps touches us in reality. No simple cliches dealing with large Robots with green kryptonite. Why not introduce a new threat. Bring in an alien agenda that has thirst for aggression. Something that overwhelms Supes to the point of his demise. Not Doomsday, Darkseid … let’s get a new visitor, or should I say visitors. “Something original”.. Something the fans will be excited about.

Bring in a ‘War of the Worlds’ scenario. An alien invasion with huge ships destroying our planet. Make it so disastrous that it consumes the viewers inner fear to the point of suffocation, which in turn relies on our appreciation of The Man of Steel. Show death, show destruction, make people feel uneasy about it. Scare people … I think this will enable the viewers to seek help from a godlike figure, a higher being.

“Our Superman”

Props bro.

That’s the best sell I’ve heard for keeping what’s right about the Donner Movies.

Bond is the holy grail of franchise, and every studio wants to mimic that success, we’re at something like Bond 20+

You’re so right about the theme music being as iconic as Bond’s and the look of the fortress. Of course - Superman’s mythos has been added too by all his versions over 80 years - the early Radio show, the Fleisher cartoons, and certainly the Donner Movies - even Smallville went with the crystal fortress look,

Where Returns went wrong was in taking the homage too far. We were given what was a remake of ‘Superman the Movie’ (which wasn’t a perfect film to begin with - it’s campy Lex & the landgrab story sucked back when it was fresh) , and what was new - Superman the deadbeat Dad was what no one wanted!

Stick with the icons, don’t mess with the suit, give us the music we expect to hear, give us a beacon of hope in a dark world.
This is Superman, you can take this character anywhere in the universe.
Batman is tied to Gotham, period,
Superman can go any where. where is the imagination O_O

If not, we can still go with Doomsday story line, make a killer action movie, and moving forward.

I also don’t mind with the reboot. What I’m concern is, despite of all the bad review, SR Superman uses great elements from Donners era that I think essential for Superman movie.

Total reboot will take out the Superman Theme, the fortress of solitude, the credit tittles, the crystal as their technology based, and the sign off flying to the sun sequence. Even until today, nothing can change the crystal technolgy and the fortress design. Not even the revamp (John Byrne) version of superman.

The sign of flying to the sun, the theme song, and all that I mention above, to me is like the James Bond elements. The shooting (barrel scene), the theme song, the graphic and the songs. Despite the direction and who plays Bond. I hope they still can preserve it. Even Casino Royale still have the ingredients. And that will make Brandon Routh George Lazenby of Superman Movie… :)

Keep Singer away from the re-boot.

uh hi.

don’t get me wrong, i love superman okay. i love batman more but i still NEED to watch some very-powerful-superhero kicking evil-doers butt to kingdom come. what i like about superman is that he rarely using trickery to face his enemy and usually just throw himself to face them. his trust to justice and his bravery even sometimes bring him to face enemies that he isn’t sure that he can beat, such as a very powerful supervillain group called the elite or doomsday. he got beaten up, bloodied, yet he never gave up, even he got killed by doomsday. that is why i love superman.

about the time travel thing, yes i’m aware that superman can go back in time (can he go back in time now after the revamp?) but if my memory serves me right, he cannot make physical contact there (even he is invisible to the living being in the past), he can only watch the past. am i wrong?

about superman being very hard to cast because of the christopher reeves shadow, yes i know it will be difficult, but actually what i have in mind is superman can be played by actors such as chris reeves or george reeves, i mean they look like a man who could handle any problems. they look like a man, a strong man, who you could trust your life with. a very powerful-god-like-being who also is human and have emotions. both reeves could portray my superman. i’m really sorry but routh couldn’t, he is a good actors though. i mean i also have problems with tobey mcguire being spiderman, because he is too sweety-cute to be peter parker, not manly enough, granted peter parker is not a macho guy, but tobey… okay but now i don’t want anyone replace him though heh heh. also i have problem with the cast for magneto (ian something, sorry i forget his name), he is just too old and not menacing enough with his pressence to be magneto, magneto presence should be like darth vader.

hehehe don’t get me wrong too, i don’t think Dark Knight is perfect, and i also agree with you that the movie star is the joker. you are absolutely right. and i’m not completely satisfied with bale either, but he was just okay. i think the best batman is Michael Keaton, now u can laugh harharhar, but that’s really what i think heh heh. Still any inaccuracy to the comic book bother me, like the Two-Face face resulted from burning etc etc, yeah it bother me, why can’t they just do it right? it’s not gonna give them more problem right?

and you are right, i wanna see movies so i can have fun. that is why they shouldn’t change anything from the comic book for no good reason.

PS: i don’t blame singer for SR, i work in advertising so i know that clients can be such an a$$ heh heh. just because i love superman and superhero movies so i’m asking them to do better, fair enough?

Make Plasticman the movie!!!

What Batman (the poster) said about superman the movie is lack of context. Superman the movie was made in 1978, in the era where time travel is allowed in Superman comics (and maybe not a perfected concept yet) And yes, by the time I saw it when I was child, I also raise one of my brows.

But if you see and think about it again, the time, the technology, the way they think, and how they make a man believably flying (and all the effect that even until today still quite awesome) while most of it haven’t been done before, It is super. And it delivered.

Brian Singer made some mistakes in SR and one big mistake by bringing the bastard child. But we have to remember, at some point, it’s Tim Burton Superman, with black costume and Nic Cage as Superman. At some point we have to wait, and wait, and wait, until they come up with another Superman Movie(s).

What I see in SR is, Singers try to please everyone, from every generation. And we also have to remember, that this Superman movie have a big shadow of Christopher reeves (not the movie, but christopher reeve as Superman - the one that batman (the poster) said have that charisma bla, bla, bla) And to date, Superman the movie have stand the test of time and becoming better than Superman II that is considered better when the first time it out.

So, since Singers know that nobody can replace Reeve, he did the movie as an homage to the first two sequel (I believe this is what make WB comfortable to finally give another Superman movie a go) and put a lot of the movie elements as much as possible.

The next director task now should be very easy. Everybody now hate SR, and he didn’t get the burden of Chris’s Charisma. They didn’t have to look for somebody who look like him. (before, everybody agree that Chris, “is” Superman) So if the director succeed, it should be no brainer. It should, considering the circumstances. But if somehow he/she messes it up again, I don’t know what to say. Plus, we now have to reboot the reboot. What a mess.

Oh, and batman (the poster), have you seen the dark knight yet? If you talking about portrayal, the movie shouldn’t called the dark knight. It should be called the clown prince. Because Heath ledger’s joker is what make the movie great. Christian Bale portrayal didn’t quite live up as batman. His heavy voice is stupid. And his batman is just so so.

And if we talking about following the comic books, no robin? Just to play save? So after three sequel Nolan going to get out to avoid robin? And leave the risk of being insulted by fans if he didn’ do the bat movie with robin to somebody else? Great.
Two face instead of acid, get his face burned by explosion and leave the terribly ruin face like that? Burning face didn’t leave a mark like that. The power ranger bat costume? Well, I guess you’ll be okay with bat nipple if Shcumacher did the Batman the way nolan did? :)

You see, I don’t have anything against the dark knight. It’s fun to watch. it’s just sometimes we forget the reason why a movie end up like the final product. The studio insist to have venom in spidey III, and when they did, some people blame raimi for it. If everything smooth during the time, Superman the movie will end up with three supervillains escaping from the phantom zone. No turning back the time until Superman II. If that’s happened, we might have a great almost perfect Superman the movie, and we’ll be here discussing (insulting) Superman II. :)

So to conclude it, I think I have to agree with Bill here. Whatever they do, make it fun. That’s why we love the comic book from the first place.

Make it Fun, not too dark.
P.S. Ben Barnes or Tom Welling if not Routh for Supes.

How you’d then introduce the character into a modern day JLA movie would be interesting, but hey this is Superman so anything is possible,

The next superman movie is going in a completely new direction
and will not continue in the direction that loser Singer started.
WB and everyone involved should distance themselves from
him as much as possible (personaly he should be jailed for
what he did to the superman returns movie. jailed. Superman
is meant to have a presence like BATMAN (the poster) said.
Routh doesn’t deliver it. Not intense enough, not old enough,
and i just didn’t feel the emotion at all. One of the ideas i’m
hearing is this “angry god” storyline where the movie begins with
a recap of the last few years and why Supes left earth, and then comes back to the present and the return of Supes to Earth
really angry at human kind for having become even more destructive than ever. Superman’s frame of mind in this movie’s
idea is “i’m breaking my ass to save everybody and everyone is
hurting the earth and each other”.

I don’t know - i like this idea because it really has a message to
it but i doubt that this is what they will eventualy go for because Superman is not the kind of Superhero who would turn his back on mankind no matter what. Even though i would have a long time ago.

There’s a problem with how Superman should be today. The
world is less moral, the problems are getting real big. On one hand We need a Superman now more than ever, but he can’t be
all sugar and sweets, On the other hand what was so special about
Christopher Reeves was how sincere he seemed in those movies.
The pain and anger when Lois dies. The fragility yet complete masculinity in his face. Man of few words, and big actions.

Routh could never be Superman. It’s not in his eyes. Just look
at a photo of Reeves next to that of Routh and compare. Superman needs a strong jawline and chin and an intensity in his eyes. Routh looks like Superman’s insecure younger brother.
OUT OUT OUT.

What surprises me is that McG was supposed to direct “returns”
and he also liked Routh. He’s not a bad actor, but he’s NOT Superman. Roger Ebert the film critic said the same thing- he lacks the charisma.

One of the world’s biggest worries at the moment id the nucleur bomb stuff… maybe the storyline should focus on Superman dismantling all of the nucleur weapons in the worls and then when the Iranians say no he could dismantle the as well…..

You’re right, Blade deserves recognition as the first of modern serious adult themed superhero movies.

I hope Millar gets his shot at the Superman reboot, now WB have confirmed that’s the direction they want to go,

As long as the darkness in the reboot comes from the bad guys, and difficulties that face Superman it will be ok - I hope.

i don’t really get it with people trying to make a movie about a super-hero if they don’t really want to play by the rules. i mean, come on, there are things that the character is not gonna do or incapable of doing but they do it anyway in the movie. like superman having a bastard-child, gone awol for 5 years without telling (in SR), or superman able to go back in time and fixing things (in Superman I), it didn’t suppose to happen!! if they wanna make it like that why don’t they just make a movie with a brand new character and leave superman alone! you wanna make a movie about superman, you must know about superman then.

btw, i dunno about the rest of you, but i don’t think routh has the quality to become the superman. he has no superman aura, superman is the great one, god-like character come down from the sky. he is greater than anyone, the greatest dc hero, he is like the sun, his presence is so great, all eyes are onto him whenever he is around. heck, even among super-heroes superman is so great that other super-heroes feel uneasy about him. he is the superman, when he is around we feel safe like when we were kids and our father is around, nobody is gonna messing with you. well, routh doesn’t have those, sorry routh. in every superman book one thing is always seen, he has a kind face, but also looks strong, where routh lacks of it, too.

when i watch any super-hero movie i expect it to give me a goosebump, and take my breath away, well sadly SR didn’t deliver that.

and i don’t know, i think x-men2 (like other x-men movies) is just an okay super-hero movies. for super-hero movies they just too ordinary in the action-sense. i mean they are super-heroes movies man. i know many of u would probably disagree with me, but i gotta say blade 2 is far better than any x-men movies, thanks del Torro! the action, the special effects, the story, all is good. hellboy also one of the best super-hero(?) movie, along with spider-man movies. x-men movies are like an upgrade of mortal kombat movies, don’t get me wrong i like x-men movies, just not that great, they could do better.

don’t make superman movies as dark or nearly as dark as batman movies. you can make good super-hero movies with lighter tone, see spider-man movies. DC or WB exec should realize this, that it may work for batman but not necessarily work for superman. WB want to make money from the movies, so they should do their home work, READ SUPERMAN and BATMAN COMIC BOOKS!! Know what you are selling man! don’t let us think that one of the worst thing that ever happen to DC is being sold to WB. U never know how much more successful DC could be if WB gave them more space.

MORE SUPER-HERO MOVIES PLEASE!!!

The Plot, acting, and the direction? Junk

Superman has a kid with Lois? Meh

The idea that Lex Luthor wanted to create a large land mass that appeared to be volcanic rock was really really dumb.

The Kumar guy? Gimme a break

Superman in the Hospital? lame lame lame lame

Routh doing his best Christopher Reeve impersonation was irritating.

Bosworth??? Hahahaha

As if the rest of the film wasn’t bad enough, Singer decided to spit in the face of Americans by editing what Superman stands for “Truth, Justice, and the American way” instead to “Truth, Justice and all that stuff”. They purposely removed “American way” .

We all know that Singer is a homosexual and very very liberal in his politics but usually he leaves his anti-American bs at the door.