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	<title>Comments on: James Cameron&#8217;s Avatar to Overcome Uncanny Valley?</title>
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		<title>By: &#187; James Cameron and &#8220;The Uncanny Valley&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; James Cameron and &#8220;The Uncanny Valley&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 00:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the solution to creating photo realistic CG characters without us humans calling them out as fake.Â Read More.Thanks to Blake for the tip.   Posted by skinchlow [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 790</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344937</link>
		<dc:creator>790</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 04:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron turned into an asshole right after T2.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344882</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 03:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Cameron is one of the most influential film makers of all time and you ask if he's still relevant?</description>
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		<title>By: gocitizen</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344874</link>
		<dc:creator>gocitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 03:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just doesn't sound like there is a lot of "fun" involved with the Avitar production.   I hope whatever they are doing is worth all the time and effort.

I'm happy with a good story told with some explosions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just doesn&#8217;t sound like there is a lot of &#8220;fun&#8221; involved with the Avitar production.   I hope whatever they are doing is worth all the time and effort.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy with a good story told with some explosions.</p>
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		<title>By: shora</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344739</link>
		<dc:creator>shora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 01:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why did James Cameron forgert about both Pirates 2&#38;3??? they both had a whole crew of CG people and they were all past the uncanny valley

and in case somebody is arguing that they had real actors on set, hmmm.. that's what James Cameron is doing too!!! Last time I checked, Sam Worthington was not the only actor listed on IMDB for Avatar

and also, another thing is.. the whole 3D aspectsof the movie helps you getting less annoyed with the CG characters. Like I personally watched Beuwolf in theaters with 3D and I didn't mind that much... but once I started watching it on DVD, it looked horrible!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why did James Cameron forgert about both Pirates 2&amp;3??? they both had a whole crew of CG people and they were all past the uncanny valley</p>
<p>and in case somebody is arguing that they had real actors on set, hmmm.. that&#8217;s what James Cameron is doing too!!! Last time I checked, Sam Worthington was not the only actor listed on IMDB for Avatar</p>
<p>and also, another thing is.. the whole 3D aspectsof the movie helps you getting less annoyed with the CG characters. Like I personally watched Beuwolf in theaters with 3D and I didn&#8217;t mind that much&#8230; but once I started watching it on DVD, it looked horrible!!!</p>
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		<title>By: evan</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344681</link>
		<dc:creator>evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 01:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only who realizes that zombies are the only unreal entity on the "uncanny" curve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only who realizes that zombies are the only unreal entity on the &#8220;uncanny&#8221; curve?</p>
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		<title>By: blurr</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344564</link>
		<dc:creator>blurr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 23:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they want realism, just hire Tom Hanks to do the damn movie rather than create a stupid zombie train conductor.

I'll go for creative and artistic visuals like The Incredibles over realism any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they want realism, just hire Tom Hanks to do the damn movie rather than create a stupid zombie train conductor.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go for creative and artistic visuals like The Incredibles over realism any day.</p>
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		<title>By: Chimaera</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344504</link>
		<dc:creator>Chimaera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 23:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I sure hope he can back it up. The movie might actually end up living up to expectation but what worries me is the part about them turning it into a game...and we're back to the whole 3D glasses bit. A great movie does not a great video game make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I sure hope he can back it up. The movie might actually end up living up to expectation but what worries me is the part about them turning it into a game&#8230;and we&#8217;re back to the whole 3D glasses bit. A great movie does not a great video game make.</p>
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		<title>By: oopsi8abug</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344437</link>
		<dc:creator>oopsi8abug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 22:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll just read the book.</description>
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		<title>By: Floppy</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344389</link>
		<dc:creator>Floppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 21:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Eliza

That is a subject for another day and a different site.  We could split off in all directions discussing multiple theories about emergence, establishment, control, rebellion, etc. surrounding AI both factual and speculative.  In the end that would just get us more off subject than this comment already has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Eliza</p>
<p>That is a subject for another day and a different site.  We could split off in all directions discussing multiple theories about emergence, establishment, control, rebellion, etc. surrounding AI both factual and speculative.  In the end that would just get us more off subject than this comment already has.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliza</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344332</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 21:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Avatar is the single most complex piece of filmmaking ever made."--Cameron and his ego make me want to vomit and run through the streets telling everyone I know never to watch his movies.  It's almost as bad as Tom Cruise.

On another note, I think this needs to be addressed:  there's something beyond the Uncanny Valley, even once it's overcome.  If a CG image actually reaches the point where it equals a human likeness in quality, that fact, in and of itself is creepy, and that then becomes the turnoff.  It's the same as the reason people have been writing fiction and making movies for years about what could go wrong with AI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Avatar is the single most complex piece of filmmaking ever made.&#8221;&#8211;Cameron and his ego make me want to vomit and run through the streets telling everyone I know never to watch his movies.  It&#8217;s almost as bad as Tom Cruise.</p>
<p>On another note, I think this needs to be addressed:  there&#8217;s something beyond the Uncanny Valley, even once it&#8217;s overcome.  If a CG image actually reaches the point where it equals a human likeness in quality, that fact, in and of itself is creepy, and that then becomes the turnoff.  It&#8217;s the same as the reason people have been writing fiction and making movies for years about what could go wrong with AI.</p>
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		<title>By: duca</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344228</link>
		<dc:creator>duca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with w smith on this one.  I am curious as to whether or not they have relised any pictures/character models whatever for this?  That's a lot of talk with nothing to back it up, you know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with w smith on this one.  I am curious as to whether or not they have relised any pictures/character models whatever for this?  That&#8217;s a lot of talk with nothing to back it up, you know?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan the Man</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344225</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan the Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know why they haven't given the option for 3D gaming before. That sounds awesome.</description>
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		<title>By: w smith</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344165</link>
		<dc:creator>w smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: "Is James Cameron still relevant? I canâ€™t help but think that this could be $195m flop."

That's what they said about Titanic too.  And at least from a financial perspective, that was obviously premature.  I wouldn't count him out just yet, but I always find this sort of early self congratulation really annoying no matter who the director is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;Is James Cameron still relevant? I canâ€™t help but think that this could be $195m flop.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what they said about Titanic too.  And at least from a financial perspective, that was obviously premature.  I wouldn&#8217;t count him out just yet, but I always find this sort of early self congratulation really annoying no matter who the director is.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/21/james-camerons-avatar-to-overcome-uncanny-valley/#comment-344142</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that the uncanny valley was the dropoff in quality between the second and third Alien films?</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm just pissed cuz about 10 years ago a friend and I developed a story that was damn near exactly the same concept as this movie. If I wasn't certain it was impossible, and undoubtedly just a coincidence, I'd be trying to figure out how we got our idea stolen. And who to sue. 

Titanic aside, I generally admire James Cameron. At least he goes balls out on his projects and he is a decent screenwriter. Not great but better than most. I'm curious. I just hope it is not too gimmicky. 

That being said, replacing a human actor with a CG "person" for no fucking reason is just stupid. Especially in the case of Beowolf where they just looked basically like the corpses of the actors who did the voice work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just pissed cuz about 10 years ago a friend and I developed a story that was damn near exactly the same concept as this movie. If I wasn&#8217;t certain it was impossible, and undoubtedly just a coincidence, I&#8217;d be trying to figure out how we got our idea stolen. And who to sue. </p>
<p>Titanic aside, I generally admire James Cameron. At least he goes balls out on his projects and he is a decent screenwriter. Not great but better than most. I&#8217;m curious. I just hope it is not too gimmicky. </p>
<p>That being said, replacing a human actor with a CG &#8220;person&#8221; for no fucking reason is just stupid. Especially in the case of Beowolf where they just looked basically like the corpses of the actors who did the voice work.</p>
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		<title>By: 790</title>
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		<dc:creator>790</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Lucas, talking. 

 Final Fantasy, was a flop because the entire film was nothing more that a weak story that was incased in a CGI beta test.  
 Who can't forget the long shots of the main female lead... There's shot of her face, her hair,  oooo look at that sweet body, another shot of her hair.  Let's get a side shot of her face, ooooo that looks great. Ok now let's see her interact with the wind. Ooooo look how her hair is blowing in the wind.  Ooooaah. That's great. Ok let's get another shot of her ass,  oooaahhh that's great ok let's do a close up of those pouty lips. Ooooaaahh. Yeah. That's great. Ok let's get a shot of looking real cool in the lab,  ok let's get rid of the background characters there distracting because there not as Hot as the main female.  Oooaaahh yeah that's it let's get a close up of her reactions to this creature, aaaooooh. She's so hot. Let's get another shot of her ass!   
 And on and on,  I couldn't even finish watching thay shit. 

  Avitar sounds like its going to get soo caught up in its look that it possibly might not have much of a story....
 
Personally I think these guys "Lucas and Cameron" should write better films and leave Moores law to work itself out.   
 I'm not running out to see this or get a 3D version of the game.   

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Lucas, talking. </p>
<p> Final Fantasy, was a flop because the entire film was nothing more that a weak story that was incased in a CGI beta test.<br />
 Who can&#8217;t forget the long shots of the main female lead&#8230; There&#8217;s shot of her face, her hair,  oooo look at that sweet body, another shot of her hair.  Let&#8217;s get a side shot of her face, ooooo that looks great. Ok now let&#8217;s see her interact with the wind. Ooooo look how her hair is blowing in the wind.  Ooooaah. That&#8217;s great. Ok let&#8217;s get another shot of her ass,  oooaahhh that&#8217;s great ok let&#8217;s do a close up of those pouty lips. Ooooaaahh. Yeah. That&#8217;s great. Ok let&#8217;s get a shot of looking real cool in the lab,  ok let&#8217;s get rid of the background characters there distracting because there not as Hot as the main female.  Oooaaahh yeah that&#8217;s it let&#8217;s get a close up of her reactions to this creature, aaaooooh. She&#8217;s so hot. Let&#8217;s get another shot of her ass!<br />
 And on and on,  I couldn&#8217;t even finish watching thay shit. </p>
<p>  Avitar sounds like its going to get soo caught up in its look that it possibly might not have much of a story&#8230;.</p>
<p>Personally I think these guys &#8220;Lucas and Cameron&#8221; should write better films and leave Moores law to work itself out.<br />
 I&#8217;m not running out to see this or get a 3D version of the game.   </p>
<p>What would SkyNet do?</p>
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		<title>By: orange cinema</title>
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		<dc:creator>orange cinema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the show 30 Rock had an episode about the uncanny valley.  tracy tries to make a porno video game &#38; judah explains the whole 'valley' to him, it was early in season 3 and one of the funniest episodes.  i love cameron's arrogance, because he can back it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the show 30 Rock had an episode about the uncanny valley.  tracy tries to make a porno video game &amp; judah explains the whole &#8216;valley&#8217; to him, it was early in season 3 and one of the funniest episodes.  i love cameron&#8217;s arrogance, because he can back it up.</p>
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		<title>By: analrapist</title>
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		<dc:creator>analrapist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œAvatar is the single most complex piece of filmmaking ever made."

lol</description>
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<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is James Cameron still relevant? I can't help but think that this could be $195m flop.</description>
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