Comments on: First Official Photos: Steven Soderbergh’s Che http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/ Blogging the Reel World Sat, 6 Sep 2008 21:18:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: was a dem not now http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-452296 was a dem not now Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:16:47 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-452296 how do these things always devolve into "It's all America's fault!" tirades? che was a brutal, ruthless power monger... and "saving the people" was his platform from which he launched his movement, but it was not his ideology. neiter che nor castro brought any "power to the people". It was an elaborate ruse to bring themselves to wealth and power. how do these things always devolve into “It’s all America’s fault!” tirades?

che was a brutal, ruthless power monger… and “saving the people” was his platform from which he launched his movement, but it was not his ideology. neiter che nor castro brought any “power to the people”. It was an elaborate ruse to bring themselves to wealth and power.

]]> By: Will http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-350500 Will Mon, 26 May 2008 02:25:10 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-350500 Another point I would like to make in an attempt to explain the conditions that lead to revolutions is that there would be NO Castro without a Batista (Our man prior to the Rev). NO Sandinistas without the Somozas (Our dynasty in Nicaragua) . NO Mao without Chiang Kai-Shek (Our associate in China). NO Lenin without a ruthless Tzar. And No Allende without the exploitation of a nation by the "beacon of freedom". I hope I am not labeled "communist" because of my posting, for I don't possess the selflessness to be one... if I did, some may even called me Jesus... others would call me Che... Another point I would like to make in an attempt to explain the conditions that lead to revolutions is that there would be NO Castro without a Batista (Our man prior to the Rev). NO Sandinistas without the Somozas (Our dynasty in Nicaragua) . NO Mao without Chiang Kai-Shek (Our associate in China). NO Lenin without a ruthless Tzar. And No Allende without the exploitation of a nation by the “beacon of freedom”.

I hope I am not labeled “communist” because of my posting, for I don’t possess the selflessness to be one… if I did, some may even called me Jesus… others would call me Che…

]]> By: Will http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-350480 Will Mon, 26 May 2008 02:06:24 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-350480 Che could never be understood without putting in context the conditions from which he offspring... besides that, this man cannot be understood lacking understanding of his ideals. Alas, to most of us in America, that is an impossibility as we have been victimized by the most elaborate propaganda machine man has ever known... One of the greatest misconception begin when we compare Communism to Democracy. That is like comparing pickles and vanilla ice cream simply because they aren't opposing ideologies. Thus, if we placed democracy on one extreme of a spectrum, then dictatorship would be on the other extreme, NOT communism. Communism could be instead compared to capitalism (one spectrum being political and the other economic and they can be combined in all various ways). Having said that, the "abuses" of most "communist" regimes should be attributed to their dictatorial nature rather than to their economic ideology. Che could never be understood without putting in context the conditions from which he offspring… besides that, this man cannot be understood lacking understanding of his ideals. Alas, to most of us in America, that is an impossibility as we have been victimized by the most elaborate propaganda machine man has ever known… One of the greatest misconception begin when we compare Communism to Democracy. That is like comparing pickles and vanilla ice cream simply because they aren’t opposing ideologies. Thus, if we placed democracy on one extreme of a spectrum, then dictatorship would be on the other extreme, NOT communism. Communism could be instead compared to capitalism (one spectrum being political and the other economic and they can be combined in all various ways). Having said that, the “abuses” of most “communist” regimes should be attributed to their dictatorial nature rather than to their economic ideology.

]]> By: mustafa http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-350406 mustafa Mon, 26 May 2008 00:46:10 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-350406 hi everyone, I live in turkey and i want to attract attention on some points. Che is the icon of the fredoom and the revolution, che had be never murderer. just think, and ask yourself this question who risks death for the people who are hungary, forgetten,homeless. in my country, USA has stirred up trouble when everyone wants to human rights. Che, Fidel, Hugo Chavez, Deniz( a revolutionist of my country) have fought for human rights, women, children whereas USA have killed women, children for just petrol. Jeff, can you understand this? hi everyone, I live in turkey and i want to attract attention on some points. Che is the icon of the fredoom and the revolution, che had be never murderer. just think, and ask yourself this question who risks death for the people who are hungary, forgetten,homeless. in my country, USA has stirred up trouble when everyone wants to human rights. Che, Fidel, Hugo Chavez, Deniz( a revolutionist of my country) have fought for human rights, women, children whereas USA have killed women, children for just petrol. Jeff, can you understand this?

]]> By: Illmatic620 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-338558 Illmatic620 Sun, 18 May 2008 01:38:25 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-338558 Che killed hundreds in war and executed a few hundred thugs and killers. He helped started a regime that gave unprecedented medical care and education for Cuba.. but a regime that has also attacked some human rights in the name of defending the hard-won gains of their revolution. During the same time JFK/LBJ/Nixon killed 6 million+ Vietnamese in Vietnam... Capitalism kills 6 million children alone who die every year because of malnutrition. The system inherently exploits people like me who come from working-class backgrounds and have to work 50+ hours for someone elses profits and live pay-check to paycheck. He might have not been a perfect man, or someone to idolize, but he fought for what he believed and against an unjust system. He is a symbol for people who want social change, even though now people know to reject both Sovietism and Capitalism. Che killed hundreds in war and executed a few hundred thugs and killers.

He helped started a regime that gave unprecedented medical care and education for Cuba.. but a regime that has also attacked some human rights in the name of defending the hard-won gains of their revolution.

During the same time JFK/LBJ/Nixon killed 6 million+ Vietnamese in Vietnam… Capitalism kills 6 million children alone who die every year because of malnutrition. The system inherently exploits people like me who come from working-class backgrounds and have to work 50+ hours for someone elses profits and live pay-check to paycheck.

He might have not been a perfect man, or someone to idolize, but he fought for what he believed and against an unjust system. He is a symbol for people who want social change, even though now people know to reject both Sovietism and Capitalism.

]]> By: Jimmi http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-337647 Jimmi Sat, 17 May 2008 07:47:09 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-337647 Che was a monster who killed thousands of people in the name of Liberty. Che was a monster who killed thousands of people in the name of Liberty.

]]> By: Gonz http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-333719 Gonz Wed, 14 May 2008 14:54:09 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-333719 For those that keep crediting "Hollywood" for the making of this movie, you might want to do your research first. There was no American (i.e. Hollywood) financial support for this movie. Ya bunch of morons! For those that keep crediting “Hollywood” for the making of this movie, you might want to do your research first. There was no American (i.e. Hollywood) financial support for this movie. Ya bunch of morons!

]]> By: Rob http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-333641 Rob Wed, 14 May 2008 13:30:48 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-333641 I hope they glorify him. There is nothing like letting Hollywood speak its mind to prove the ignorance of the political left. I hope they glorify him. There is nothing like letting Hollywood speak its mind to prove the ignorance of the political left.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-332610 Jeff Tue, 13 May 2008 20:24:32 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-332610 Che was a murderer. he killed innocent people. this movie is filth. I cannot believe we are going to make a movie about this guy. Way to go Hollywood, lets just make a movie next time called "Communism is way cooler than capitalism: We hate America the movie" Che was a murderer. he killed innocent people. this movie is filth. I cannot believe we are going to make a movie about this guy. Way to go Hollywood, lets just make a movie next time called “Communism is way cooler than capitalism: We hate America the movie”

]]> By: HeyChe http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-332266 HeyChe Tue, 13 May 2008 13:06:42 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-332266 Foremore info about this movie ... www.hey-che.com Foremore info about this movie … http://www.hey-che.com

]]> By: J.D. http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-331850 J.D. Tue, 13 May 2008 01:30:31 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-331850 I wonder if they are going to go into the whole "support the Soviets, kill all democracy-supporters" thing. Yeah, this guy was an enemy to freedom everywhere and a ruthless killer as well. Those who can celebrate him simply don't know their history... or are disgruntled ex-Soviets. I wonder if they are going to go into the whole “support the Soviets, kill all democracy-supporters” thing.

Yeah, this guy was an enemy to freedom everywhere and a ruthless killer as well.

Those who can celebrate him simply don’t know their history… or are disgruntled ex-Soviets.

]]> By: Pedro http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-331826 Pedro Tue, 13 May 2008 01:01:33 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-331826 It's a freaking paradox. People will bite at others for wearing a Che shirt, and others will bite at them. Complaining about a white kid (or any race) wearing a Che shirt is probably the least original and most annoying argument one can pose. GET OVER IT. Che is a historical figure like any other. Many hate him, probably more adore him. I won't even get into how I feel about him because it truly doesn't matter. Just remember, you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. It’s a freaking paradox. People will bite at others for wearing a Che shirt, and others will bite at them. Complaining about a white kid (or any race) wearing a Che shirt is probably the least original and most annoying argument one can pose. GET OVER IT. Che is a historical figure like any other. Many hate him, probably more adore him. I won’t even get into how I feel about him because it truly doesn’t matter.

Just remember, you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.

]]> By: » Cannes 2008: Benicio Del Toro es el “Che” » Cinencuentro - Todo el cine del Perú http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-331460 » Cannes 2008: Benicio Del Toro es el “Che” » Cinencuentro - Todo el cine del Perú Mon, 12 May 2008 19:50:05 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-331460 [...] (Vía /film) [...] [...] (Vía /film) [...]

]]> By: John http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-331278 John Mon, 12 May 2008 16:45:46 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-331278 People will be like they made a movie about a guy on a T-shirt. Since wearing a T-shirt of him then you dont know who he is. People will be like they made a movie about a guy on a T-shirt. Since wearing a T-shirt of him then you dont know who he is.

]]> By: Jackson http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-331196 Jackson Mon, 12 May 2008 15:06:40 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-331196 Ok my comment doesn't make sense anymore. disregard. Ok my comment doesn’t make sense anymore. disregard.

]]> By: Jackson http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-331194 Jackson Mon, 12 May 2008 15:05:34 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-331194 @ Mike Peter is just reporting the fact that this movie is premiering this weekend, and he geve the official plot synopsis so people know what it is about. I see no "rancid political cheerleading" This is a movie news site, and I believe this counts as movie news. @ Mike

Peter is just reporting the fact that this movie is premiering this weekend, and he geve the official plot synopsis so people know what it is about.

I see no “rancid political cheerleading”

This is a movie news site, and I believe this counts as movie news.

]]> By: Benicio Del Toro Gets Revolutionary as Che Guevara - Film School Rejects http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-330958 Benicio Del Toro Gets Revolutionary as Che Guevara - Film School Rejects Mon, 12 May 2008 11:04:51 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-330958 [...] friends at Slashfilm have come up with these two new pics (which can be enlarged through the act of clicking) of Mr. Del [...] [...] friends at Slashfilm have come up with these two new pics (which can be enlarged through the act of clicking) of Mr. Del [...]

]]> By: LAS HORAS PERDIDAS - CRITICAS Y NOTICIAS DE CINE http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-330864 LAS HORAS PERDIDAS - CRITICAS Y NOTICIAS DE CINE Mon, 12 May 2008 09:44:49 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-330864 [...] Slashfilm nos deja dos fotos oficiales (la primera nueva, la segunda posiblemente ya la habréis visto por ahí) de Benicio del Toro como el ‘Che’ Guevara en ‘El Argentino’ y ‘Guerrilla’, el biopic en dos entregas rodado por Steven Soderbergh que se estrenarán esta semana en versión completa en la 61 edición del Festival Internacional de Cine de Cannes. Es decir: los asistentes al evento se van a comer 268 minutos seguidos. [...] [...] Slashfilm nos deja dos fotos oficiales (la primera nueva, la segunda posiblemente ya la habréis visto por ahí) de Benicio del Toro como el ‘Che’ Guevara en ‘El Argentino’ y ‘Guerrilla’, el biopic en dos entregas rodado por Steven Soderbergh que se estrenarán esta semana en versión completa en la 61 edición del Festival Internacional de Cine de Cannes. Es decir: los asistentes al evento se van a comer 268 minutos seguidos. [...]

]]> By: orange cinema http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-330832 orange cinema Mon, 12 May 2008 09:12:08 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-330832 "Che remains a symbol of idealism and heroism that lives in the hearts of people around the world." especially for caucasin indie boys wearing t-shirts bearing his face, yet have no real idea who the man truly was." c'mon, we've all seen those guys! “Che remains a symbol of idealism and heroism that lives in the hearts of people around the world.”

especially for caucasin indie boys wearing t-shirts bearing his face, yet have no real idea who the man truly was.”

c’mon, we’ve all seen those guys!

]]> By: Rama’s SCREEN » New Images of CHE GUEVARA http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-330773 Rama’s SCREEN » New Images of CHE GUEVARA Mon, 12 May 2008 08:14:16 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/11/first-official-photos-steven-soderberghs-che/#comment-330773 [...] Biopic epic Movies about Che Guevara (1928-1967) titled THE ARGENTINE and the sequel is GUERRILLA. Slashfilm has the official synopsis for both films, which will be included among the many title shown at [...] [...] Biopic epic Movies about Che Guevara (1928-1967) titled THE ARGENTINE and the sequel is GUERRILLA. Slashfilm has the official synopsis for both films, which will be included among the many title shown at [...]

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