The teaser trailer for the big screen adaptation of Stephenie Meyer’s best selling novel Twilight was viewed over 2 million in the first three days of release on MySpace.com. Back in March, the trailer for Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull broke records with 4.1 million views on the Yahoo movie site in the first week of release. Twilight might come close to beating Indy’s record. And in doing so it would become the most watched movie trailer launch in the history of the internet. Not bad for a movie being produced and distributed by a non-major movie studio.
Anne Thompson reveals that Paramount Pictures actually had an option on the material, but let it go. I’m sure they’re kicking themselves now. Summit Entertainment scooped up the rights when the first book had only sold 10,000 copies. Since then the three released books in the series have sold over 6 million copies in the U.S. But will that translate into big box office dollars?
May 9th, 2008 at 1:05 am
What the shit is this Twilight thing? My friends nor I have ever heard of it and it’s somehow this gigantic deal.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:37 am
poor speed racer… poor speed racer. this was your chance to premiere the twilight trailer.
hopefully they make ‘new moon’ into a movie. theres more of alice in that book. the actress playing her is smoking hot. lol.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:55 am
Should we prepare ourselves for the 3rd wave of twilight fan-girls?
How many views did the Epic Movie and Meet the Spartans trailers get?
May 9th, 2008 at 2:50 am
Yea, id too like to know what is this shit? Havent heard anything bout the books and all photos and that poster looks just… lame.
May 9th, 2008 at 2:59 am
Im trying to give this movie a chance but I just don’t know. From first glance it looks like a crappy movie, I have seen the trailer and its ok but not something I would run out to see.
However, all these people saying how good the book is and stuff makes me at least a little more interested. Im gonna have to give it some more time before I can judge this better but I will stay that guy kinda freaks me out.
May 9th, 2008 at 3:30 am
One has to wonder what the actually unique numbers are, you know? How many unique views there were vs. how many people watched the trailer over and over again. That would definitely skew the figures somewhat.
May 9th, 2008 at 4:45 am
I thought MTV had the rights up until a few months ago? Anyway, good for Summit. This’ll be sure to earn them some cash. A lot of the fans will go (not all, a lot aren’t happy with the casting) but a large majority will see it. And when the “majority” equals millions of people, that translates well for the people who’ve invested in the film.
May 9th, 2008 at 4:53 am
Read the books, read the books, read the books. I have full confidence in Stephenie, Summit, and everyone behind this film it will be one of the best blockbusters ever.
I agree with James though, that poster should be totally re-vamped. Although Twilight fans seem to love it…It’s way too “Dark”, the tagline is far too small, and the composition is all wrong. The photographer [who is really talented actually] would be well served to re-work the poster…as I don’t think it really pulls people in and makes them want to go see the movie. Hate is a really strong word, but I don’t like the poster at all.
May 9th, 2008 at 4:57 am
PS I’m not talking about the poster in this article, just the one released this week featuring Edward and Bella only.
May 9th, 2008 at 6:13 am
Duca:
The same logic has to be applied to all the trailers. How many of Indiana Jones hits were also repeat views? I know I watched the Indy trailer way more than one time. How can you not! Brace yourselves guys, Twilight will be huge. It may not be your cup of tea but as the book says, it’s definitely many people’s “brand of heroin”. Thanks for the article /Film. I know it’s hard to get into a tween/mom phenomenon but as I fan I appreciate the effort.
May 9th, 2008 at 6:30 am
Somewhere the “Speed Racer” people are crying now … lost at least half of their potential audience to myspace and youtube *lol*
May 9th, 2008 at 6:37 am
6 million thats it?
I think people are getting a little ahead of themselves with the HP talk then.
Sisterhood of the traveling pants has sold roughly the same amount of copies http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6401741.html
and it did about $42 worldwide. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=travelingpants.htm
Hannah Montana did $69 worldwide so I would say this is in that ballpark. Which is good for a indy but I don’t think it will be a big fat greek wedding. Especially since I don’t think, based on the trailer, the movie will draw anyone who hasn’t read the books.
May 9th, 2008 at 6:53 am
twilight will be a huge film ! cant wait to watch it .. the trailer is awesome ! And Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart are perfect together :)
May 9th, 2008 at 7:01 am
What is so cool about this trailer seriously??
This looks worse than Covenant.
May 9th, 2008 at 7:17 am
To give you an idea how popular Stephenie Meyer is. Her signings draw 1,000’s of people at every venue. Most authors draw 100’s if that. They actually had to limit tickets on her current signing tour. People camped out overnight just to score these tickets.
The film set was continuously bombarded with fans that drove cross-country to get a glimpse of the actors the majority of whom (no slight to them but the truth) are by no means A-list.
The three books have never left the USA Today bestseller list that bases tracking on Amazon.com B&N, and other major retailers. These lists lump all books of every genre together unlike the NY Times that subdivides into categories. The sales total on books that haven’t even been out for three years is 5,000,000 and CLIMBING!
The books haven’t left the New York Times bestseller list in their categories in two years.
So why haven’t people heard of it? It’s a story who’s target audience is women. When’s the last time the male-dominated entertainment industry mogols in Hollywood paid serious attention to what women wanted and gave them credit for what their buying dollars would be if someone actually got the story right? We’re surprised why, exactly?
Twilight is going to be a runaway hit with people seeing it multiple times like Titanic, and it’s going to be the “surprise hit” that’s no surprise at all for people who are actually paying attention and doing anything more than just the typical, cursory look at the facts.
Oh and by, the way. She released a new novel, “The Host” on Tuesday. When the NY Times list comes out and cover the week of May 5th. it will be in the top ten. I actually have money riding on it debuting at number 1.
May 9th, 2008 at 7:23 am
Forgot to add, what’s out now is a teaser. Designed to spike interest in the largest target audience teens and young women. Hot guy, saves girl, rhetorical questions about living forever. They went wrong on that how exactly? How many of the above responders are that demographic?
When a full-sized trailer and not just a teaser releases later on they’ll be more people lining up.
If this so-called “second rate, rip-off trailer” is getting what Indiana Jones (major film with HUGE crossover demographic appeal) is getting. That would be the wake-up call for the pundits in love with the sound of their own voice stating ad nausem “It’s going to flop. I’ve never heard of it.”
May 9th, 2008 at 7:27 am
To all the Guys who don’t “GET” this Twilight crap:
The books are huge, the fandom getting bigger by the day, and if you want to be the coolest guys in the office, at school or in your own home with your daughter, wife or girlfriend READ THE BOOKS!!! My son has read all three—twice—and has quite the “fan” following hiimself! It doesn’t hurt to do the research before trashing a phenomenon. Trust me. The books have action, and the movie promises MORE visual action than you see in the books! The Covenant, it ain’t.
Thanks, /film for the LOVE!!!
May 9th, 2008 at 7:46 am
@ Laura
Wonderful, wonderful comment. Thank you for making intelligent arguments. It’s refreshing to see valid points expressed without whining and caps-locks. :)
May 9th, 2008 at 7:59 am
C’mon guys! If you didn’t even read the books, why do you keep criticizing it? Seriously, I don’t get it. But it’s so freakin’ annoying to see all that hate (yeah, it’s a strong word, but true) towards the Twilight movie. God! Comparing it to Convenant… Believe me, totally wrong!
I got to confess I didn’t like the idea of the movie at the beginning. And, yeah, I thought the cast of Robert as Edward was totally wrong too. But, let’s face it, nobody in this world would be perfect enough to play Edward Cullen, but Robert is doing an amazing job. And I bet Twilight will be amazing too. Not better than the book… Not even close. But Harry Potter movies (there’s always comparisons about HP and Twilight, that’s why I’m using it as an example) weren’t either. And I’m talking as an HP fan. The books will always be better than the movie adaptations. But, let’s give it a try, ok? Let’s stop with all this hate towards something you don’t even imagine what is. God, I seem like a priest now, but you get the idea xD
(Sorry if there’s some errors in the text)
May 9th, 2008 at 8:42 am
The trailer gets trashed because this is a movie site not a book site. The movie should stand on its own without mention of the books. If you need to read the books to enjoy a movie it is not a very good adaptation. Period.
Read the books is not a valid response to “This trailer does not interest me”.
Also on its face there is nothing revolutionary about twilight. We have all heard the vampire / mortal woman love story before. It was in fact the plot of the first vampire book, you know Dracula. She may have executed it well. But that doesn’t mean that when you read a plot synopsis it doesn’t seem derivative. We have all seen teen vampires. We have all seen, teen girls with bad boys. So why are you surprised that a trailer with these elements and the look of a CW show is dismissed as such. No one here cares that its a good book because that is irrelevant to the debate, this place is slashfilm not slashbook.
My opinion of the trailer is,
Kristen Stewart - a plus, i liked her in Land of Women
Dopey Main Vampire - i don’t see the attraction. He’s no Jordan Catalano or Angel Even. The puffy hair plus large forehead seem to make his head very long and narrow. I think the actor is benefiting greatly from the Darcy/Firth effect.
Dopey Friend Vampire - bad line, delivered badly. can’t fix that in post
Flying at the end - seemed like a speeder chase to me.
Him being 100 and her being a teen - i find that creepy. Where the hell is chris hansen. He is a predator in more than just being a vampire.
Oh and in response to the point that 1000s of people at signings = 1,000,000s at the box office. Just look at Kevin Smiths films. Dude can draw a house to see him. But you need way more than even 100000 true fans to open a film to the tune that you are talking about.
May 9th, 2008 at 8:52 am
When I see that huge pale head, all I can hear is…
“Head, Move!” “He’ll be cryin’ himself to sleep tonight on his huge pillow.”
May 9th, 2008 at 8:59 am
@Quenfis
Watch out. You are about to get bombarded with fangirls telling you that if you read the books you wouldn’t think his head was unnaturally large.
May 9th, 2008 at 9:18 am
I LOVE the books and the movie is gonna be awesome!
May 9th, 2008 at 9:20 am
I agree with Laura’s arguement. There is a target audience here that this movie was intended to attract–and I think from the many replies/posts, we can see that it did it’s job in spades.
The conversations/comments made by non-target audience members are a little premature to say the least.
There are many movies that I haven’t heard of that are in the works or coming out soon. If I looked at a teaser trailer designed for that target audience, I would probably be saying everything that some are saying about Twilight. I have to admit, though–I don’t think I would comment on a movie that’s not in my interest group. I probably wouldn’t even read the articals about that movie. I definitely wouldn’t shred it as some have done who admit they know nothing about the movie, have never heard of it, and don’t see the appeal.
Again I agree with Laura—lets wait for the real trailers to come out. Or we could look for some of the behind the sceens info that others have mentioned. That might give us a better idea of what’s going on–and allow us to make more educated comments on the movie.
May 9th, 2008 at 9:22 am
good point jim, that dude is a total pedo
May 9th, 2008 at 9:22 am
I don’t understand what some of you people are so upset about. It’s getting mad views and that’s that, nothing anyone can do about it. Why does it bother you so much? Just chillll. If it doesn’t look like something you’d like to see then don’t go see it, it’s that simple.
May 9th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Am I the only one who thinks that this movie looks stupid?
May 9th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Thank you Rebecca!
May 9th, 2008 at 9:29 am
I agree with you, Rebecca!
May 9th, 2008 at 9:40 am
This movie looks DDDUUUMMMBB. Definitely should be a Straight > DVD … maybe a double-pack with Lost Boys II.
Add “Zone” to the title and I’d be a wee bit more interested.
May 9th, 2008 at 9:51 am
I hope it does break the record.
The series is possibly going to beat the Harry Potter series when the movie comes out because of the fact that it has been silently building a fan-base that most fantasy books can only dream of.
To those who haven’t read the book already, give them a go. I didn’t want to read them when my friend first got them and now I’m hooked.
May 9th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Shut. The. F**k. Up. About. The. Books.
Seriously, this isn’t about the books, this about the shitty movie trailer, produced by a shitty movie company that first released on a shitty website and is attached to a shitty movie. Jesus.
Movie NOT book.
May 9th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim
I dont see how you can actually say “The movie should stand on its own without mention of the books.” The movie is an adaptation of the book. HELLO!! I agree that if you have to read the book AFTER the movie has come out, then the movie is probably not that good. But as seeing as the movie does not come out for another 7 months some people who have their curiosity spiked about it should read the book to see what the movie might be like.
Oh about the trashing you did on the actors, if you actually had the gumption to read the books, you would understand what these actors are like for the fans. The actors actually fit the imagination of what some of the fans imagined in the books, so the movie is really bringing it to life for us. If you cannot appreciate that and respect how we feel then you need some help.
Another thing, this is not a typical vampire book, which you would know if you read the book. And the whole story is not just about vampires, it is about the relationship between people. There is enough action, suspense, love, and comedy to keep a person attached until the end. It might not be everybody’s cup of tea, but for a big population it is. There are even grown men with families reading this book.
Oh and the last thing. Yes there are 1,000 of people that show up to the book signings, as Laura pointed out and the article, but in the US alone there have been 5,000,000+ books sold. Thats not even mentioning how many books have been sold world wide. Thats also not counting the people who go see the movie because they thought the trailer looked interesting, or because they like an actor in the movie. Can you do the math here???
May 9th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Jesus Christ. A Movie is a stand-alone version of a book, thats the whole point of a movie adaptation. To be a different stand-alone version of a book. Go drink your juice box and stay committed to this POS.
btw. The acting sucks, and I don’t care what the f**king book has to say about that.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Is this going to be the next Citizen Kane? No–but it looks like a fun movie and the lead dude is hot. All the boys will be jealous of him, but they’ll go along with their girlfriends to appease them and they’ll get lucky that night cause their girls were lusting after vampire boy. Everyone’s happy.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:15 am
The trailer looks pretty good. And it has a good cross-genre thing going on. I can see why people are excited about it.
I don’t understand why people are overly passionate either way honestly-it’s just a 30 second trailer. You can’t decide how good or bad a movie is going to be by 30 seconds. All I can judge by it is that visually it looks good.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:16 am
The movie doesn’t stand alone.
The movie is simply an adaption of the book, not the same thing. But that isn’t the same as standing alone. Especially when this adaption has been so closely connected with the author and her influence.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Guys are just jealous cause the Cullen vampire boys have some pretty big wands to work with.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:20 am
No? The Cullen guy looks the fucking Incredible Emo-Hulk.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:20 am
No? The Cullen guy looks like the Incredible Emo-Hulk.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Fuck shitty pop literature and their shitty movie adaptations.
That is all.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:21 am
hey, allynd, you seem really, really invested in this conversation. Care to share why? Just a little too amped if you know what I mean. Don’t deny the power of the Pattinson.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:22 am
This will not beat HP at the movies and I agree about stopping the “read the book” talk. The books may be great, but the poster and teasers looks lame. This is a discussion about the movie not the books.
Most of the neg comments (including mine) are based solely on the movie marketing material, which looks like crap to some or gold to others (seems fans go this way).
The real question is how will the movie do for non-fans of the book. I do not think it will fair too well with them.
The comment about the 5 mil+ books sold in the US, didnt the last potter sell over 9 mil books in the first 24 hours? If that is true, the Twilight books don’t compare (maybe I have my numbers wrong, but I am going off of a CNN article and this 5 mil in the post above).
May 9th, 2008 at 10:23 am
I think the trailer looks great. I think some less moody music would make it less dark though-like something fast paced would be cool.
I like the concept of the movie though. A vampire falling for a human girl.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:25 am
I actually did the math earlier. But the post is in moderation. I think because I included links. But here is that post without links.
“6 million thats it?
I think people are getting a little ahead of themselves with the HP talk then.
Sisterhood of the traveling pants has sold roughly the same amount of copies www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6401741.html
and it did about $42 worldwide. www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=travelingpants.htm
Hannah Montana did $69 worldwide so I would say this is in that ballpark. Which is good for a indy but I don’t think it will be a big fat greek wedding. Especially since I don’t think, based on the trailer, the movie will draw anyone who hasn’t read the books.”
The reason I say that the movie should stand on its own. Is because It should stand on its own. If the film makers do their job. I shouldnt need a companion guide. That is why most adaptations fail. They can’t capture what was so great about the books. The point of the teaser trailer is to get people to see a movie not to get people to read a book. They don’t spend that much money making commercials for books. (ie. nora roberts commercials)
Do you honestly think. That if someone saw that trailer. And didn’t know all the hype about the books. They would decide to read that book.
And I didnt trash the actors. I went through my thoughts watching the trailer. I thought thirteen was done well also. And think Kristen Stewart is pretty good as well. So there were 2 pluses going into it. I just thought the one line delivery sucked. And that I didn’t understand the people who think the main lead is attractive. I suggested that he is capitalizing on transference. People see him as the character they love so they have put the characters traits on the actor. It happens all the time. Unless of course in the book they say the main vampire guy has puffy hair and a narrow face with a giant head. Then I guess it is good casting. If she falls in love with the character despite his looks then it is good casting. But with all the OMG 11!! he’s so hot comments I get the impression that he is supposed to be good looking.
And how does grown men with families reading the book make this trailer good?
May 9th, 2008 at 10:25 am
mike: honestly, alot of the marketing so far has been geared towards females. That teaser trailer was totally for the females, that’s why you guys are turned off of it. There’s been sneak peeks that were made more for a male demographic though that was more butch and action packed. This trailer was all about making girls fall for the lead character.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:27 am
I’m sorry but please could everyone please stop being so childish and calling this movie “shit”. as number one, to may people it is offensive word to some people 2) no-one has actually seen the movei so you have nothing to call shit anyway 3) its a really really sad insult. can’t you think of something more intelligent to say?
I think twilight is fantastic and the trailer deserves to be commended for!
May 9th, 2008 at 10:27 am
And so it starts again….
What I wish most commenters would understand that the
judgement is not about the books. It’s about what we have
seen so far that is movie related. You chant “read the books”
but you know what? This is a story that will not interest everyone,
so they won’t read it. Accept their criticism of the movie poster
and teaser trailer and move on. Because they don’t agree with you
doesn’t them stupid or ignorant or rude.
This rabid mantra of “you guys don’t understand” is doing nothing to help your case. If anything it only turns people off and makes you look closed minded and silly. Movies and books are two
different mediums. Books rarely translate well into movies. I would tell you to prepare yourself for feeling disappointed. I hope you
and some us will be surprised, but from I have seen so far I think
the movie may be medicore at best.
Follow the example of some of the intelligent commentors. Take
a breath, think about you’re going to say and give us your co-herent comments/arguements/likes/dislikes. It is much easier to respect you and your thoughts. Knee jerk comments will only be
met with teasing - it is the internet after all - insults are so much easier to toss out.
As for the post here - well, it doesn’t surprise me in the least. A lot
of the comments I have read from the loyal fans have likely watched the trailer numerous times in order to memorize each
scene and drool over what is their most anticipated movie of the
year and working themselves up in a frenzy. There is nothing
wrong with that, for example, look at most of us drooling over
TDK waiting on edge of our seats to see the film. And there are
a fair number of commentors who are convinced TDK will be the
greatest comic movie ever and Heath Ledger will get an Oscar
Nom and we’ve only seen a few minutes of film footage. :)
May 9th, 2008 at 10:29 am
jim: I don’t think this is going to be a movie that hits HP levels-I wish they would stop comparing it to HP honestly because it has a smaller niche it’s working out of, unlike HP. And the budget is a fraction of what HP had to work with(I think only 30 million)>
As I said earlier-they are going to set this movie up as a romantic thriller. What I’ve noticed though with sneak peeks and trailers, they are making these clips heavy on “romance” or “thriller” though, and showing the “thriller” clips to male audiences(at comic book conventions,etc.) and “romance” clips targeted to females(having the trailers previewed with romantic comedies).
So, honestly, you guys probably won’t like this trailer cause it wasn’t made for you. I think the longer trailer they’ll end up making will show more action elements to make boys less resistant to the fact their gfs want to drag them in to see it.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:32 am
The trailer may look sh*tty to some people, it seems, to guys in particular. That’s because the majority of the fans are females, and teenage females at that so of course the movie is going to be made in a way that appeals to the majority of the fan base. Just chill out, kids, like I said, if it doesn’t look like something you’d be in to, and if you don’t understand what all the hype is about then don’t go see it, and b*tching about it isn’t going to do anything for you either. Not every movie in the world is going to please everyone, but for the people that it does please, let it please them, if you don’t like it, awesome, if you do, that’s awesome, too. Just chill out.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:32 am
I”m a loyal fan of the books. I would like to see some changes done with the trailer personally though.
I think the trailer needs to clearly explain he’s a vampire. That he’s a vampire that is falling for a human girl. But that that same girl is someone he’d really like to take a bite out of.
Right now the trailer is too heavy on the romantic angle–I think it needs to show the other parts I just mentioned.
And they need new music for the trailer that is more modern and less moody.
This is going to be a good movie, but they need to sell it better.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:35 am
I like the trailer, but I’m 19 and have the hots for Cedric Diggory. So, I’m a push over.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:36 am
I’ll pass on the Jim Jones suggestion, Allynd, if it’s all the same to you. I am actually able think for myself and articulate an opinion that obviously differs from yours. In fact I’ve even referenced sales totals and fan turn-out to support my claim. I must have missed the part where they were handing out joy juice to the folks down at USA Today, The New York Times, among others.
I’ll respond again. Although given that when I respond I do try remember that profanity is the crutch of the intellectual cripple, so I don’t know as you’ll be able to comprehend what I and others are saying. Since sound-bite, shoot from the hip, profanity with unsubstantiated references to group think seem to be your preference.
I disagree with the assertion that “A Movie is a stand-alone version of a book, thats the whole point of a movie adaptation. To be a different stand-alone version of a book.” It is different in that they are different art forms. You can show this via a variety of film technique montage, flashback, whatever that which would have been explained in a novel. They are not so different however to render them unrecognizable from the original.
Inevitably, scenes get cut (Tom Bombadil anyone?) However, I think most fans want a book to have the flavor of the original. Not every scene and every character, but a flavor that is accurate to the story arc. Otherwise, it’s just second-rate, lazy writing. What fans of the books are attesting to is that it has this flavor.
As to Summit being a company of questionable merit, do the Oscar nominated titles Babel, ring any bells? They are Summit films.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:39 am
@Hmmm
I am really vested because I’ve been coming to Slashfilm for a long time now and I hate it when all these Twilight fans show up and treat the comment section as a message board to discuss the books and other shitty things from the books when this is a movie site.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:44 am
@nina
I think with a $30 mill budget and a fan base the size of a travelling pants and as rabid as that of hannah montanna. We are looking sub $100 mill. Which isn’t bad. Especially for a independent movie. But I doubt they have the marketing budget to really get out people who don’t know about the books.
Even if they focus on the action. (for the males, as people say, which kinda treats males 1-dimensionally, like men wouldn’t see something without explosions) At 30 million, realistically how good can the action be.
As for the boyfriends being dragged. I don’t think that really happens. What does happen is that girls will go with their girlfriends in a big group. Its what happen when pride and prejudice came out. I don’t see guys going without girls and I don’t see a significant portion of guys being dragged. Since a guilt free girls night lusting after some dude who isn’t your significant other seems to be the norm.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:53 am
@Sophia
Welcome to the internet. You must be new here.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:56 am
I’m a big fan of the books so of course when I heard there was a movie coming out I read and watched everything I could find about it to see if it would live up to my expectations (I’m not big on seeing movies based on books I love because they usually wind up disappointing me) Anywho, I think once an actual trailer comes out and that it will capture the attention of more males because after seeing a kajillion behind the scenes videos and stuff on the making of the movie and such, there really are lots of actiony scenes and fight scenes and what not. It doesn’t seem like it’s just going to be some be teenybopping, lovey dovey, impossible love story that’s only going to interest people who type LyKe ThIs AlL ThE TiMe LoLlz RoFlCoPtErZ OmG!!!11!!!1! But who knows, after all it is just a teaser and (in my opinion,) a crappy movie poster and promo pics so far. Just wait for the actual trailer that’ll come out in a few months. Hopefully it will surprise some people, but it may not.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:00 am
@Laura
The point is that a book adaptation needs to stand on its own to gain mass appeal. Do you think HP made all its money because every single person who saw it read the books? I’ll answer that question for you. The answer is no. HP made all its money because people who didn’t read the books still went to see it. That is why in the marketing for HP they don’t say. Please read this book before coming to see the movie because you need to know how the books are to enjoy this movie.
Having read the HP books. I don’t think the HP movies are that great, save POA. But that didn’t stop people i know who haven’t read the books from enjoying the movie.
I understand that people are passionate about the book. Most people here understand it. Read anything about GI Joe. People seem to be devastated by that. (They are raping my childhood, anyone) But that doesn’t change the fact that to do big bank. The movie needs to have mass appeal beyond the diehards. And what people on this site are saying, the so called haters, are saying is:
“I haven’t read the books, and this trailer does not appeal to me”
you can’t then turn around and say well then read the books. Because no one has said. “This trailer does not appeal to the people who have read the books” I am pretty sure that at this point most people would agree they could have stuck twilight on any piece of crap and the fans would eat it up. (That was flame bait, I know, I appologize)
So the point is.
Everyone Agrees Fans of the Books Like the Trailer.
People who haven’t read the books, at least the ones commenting here, Don’t like the trailer.
People who don’t like the trailer feel (rightly so, IMHO) that they shouldn’t have to read a book to be able to say whether a trailer appeals to them.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:03 am
The reason this trailer is inspiring such strong feelings is due in part to rabid fangirls showing up and getting spitting mad that people disagree with them about their opinions and it’s a huge turnoff. Please follow the examples in this very thread of calm fans who didn’t get angry but instead tried to support their viewpoints with reasoning and evidence. THAT is how you gain new fans. If you come in attacking people who disagree with you it will cause more resentment, not convert them to your cause.
That being said: people who don’t like what they’re doing so far with the marketing? Let’s try to not lose our tempers here. It’s tempting to do so but that’ll only antagonize people further. Just let this run its course. Will Twilight still be a huge phenomenon in ten years? Probably not. So let’s just all take a deep breath and calm down before we go off on people.
Also, a correction: the 5.5 million copies figure is not for U. S. sales, but is the number of copies in print worldwide (info taken from the Breaking Dawn press release at stepheniemeyer.com).
May 9th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Sorry if you have been here awhile Allynd and don’t like your private turf being invaded. Also thanks for the warm welcome. I’m sure everyone appreciates your own special brand of quality discussion on this topic. Really it adds insight on a whole new level.
Any commentary at on on how the teaser does hit the target audience effectively or are you just going to ignore that part and just continue to attack the player and leave the ball out there?
Jim, nice comparison in Traveling Pants movie (Great book series, btw.). However you need to reconsider that comparison a little. The Traveling Pants series was multiple books (as in close to 10) at the time the movie was made. Cabot is a great writer in the demographic, however she doesn’t carry into the 20 and early thirty somethings as much as Meyer does. Same thing on Potter. You can’t compare 7 books to three. If you compare where those series were on book three vs. where this is on book three things even out substantially.
Another point on Traveling Pants is that it’s at its core a female, coming-of-age, buddy series. It’s not a Darcyesque romance (great description there). Female views tend to respond more to that genre and to see that genre again. Think of it as A League of Their Own and Titantic. First one is a great movie but people weren’t seeing it multiple times on the big screen. Titanic the female market was because of the love story.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Jim: I think we are both right.lol I think definitely this will be a “girls night out” movie. But fans of this book are fierce-and multiple viewings is a given, which will include an obligatory bf/husband dragging “date night.”
Pride and Prejudice showed similar patterns-it was outperforming “Hitch” per screen intake with alot of repeat visitors, taking moms/friends/bfs/whoever will go with them.
The thing with the Twilight series fanbase is you have younger and older females attracted to it(similar to P/P).
With all that said though, I think in some ways, guys will be even more resistant to it if they think they are being falsely sold a thriller that they see as really a teen girly movie. I get that sense in general.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Very good one, Laura!!! Some people on this site are very touchy, aren’t they? I guess the are just intimidated by Twilight—because I can’t imagine why–since they don’t care for the trailer–they are still even talking about it? I would think they would rather move on to a movie they can get behind. I really believe some people llike to see their small minded thoughts in print……..
May 9th, 2008 at 11:23 am
@ Jim
Ok so I did get a little catish earlier, and I am sorry. I just get a little defensive of the book and the movie. You have the freedom to say whatever you like, and I respect you for that. After watching the teaser trailer again, I do think that it was more pointed at people who have read the books and who can appreciate what those scenes shown mean and to attacked love story type females. I believe that when the full length trailer comes out that it might draw a bigger attraction of people. Saying that I hope that you can forgive me for things I said before, and that you will at least give the movie a chance.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:28 am
I see a much wider audience, for Kim Harrison’s Rachel Morgan novels and/or the books written by LA Banks. For some reason, I’ve heard and read a lot about those authors, but I’ve never crossed Meyer’s name before this month. It just strikes me as odd.
I hope the movie lives up to the fans’ expectations. Otherwise, a whole new segment of moviegoers is going to learn the meaning of “epic fail.”
May 9th, 2008 at 11:31 am
That was well said, Mary, when you said “After watching the teaser trailer again, I do think that it was more pointed at people who have read the books and who can appreciate what those scenes shown.” Because the trailers definitely don’t explain much, I think the only reason that I appreciate it is because I’ve read the books but if I hadn’t read them then I would probably just be like “What the hell is this?” So I don’t understand, for the life of me, why they made the trailer that way if they’re actually planning on making a decent amount of money. That’s why I’m hoping, when the actual trailer comes out, that it will explain a little more and not be aimed only toward people who are already fans of the book.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:40 am
@ Laura
I got traveling pants based on the sales and the strong female fan base and the fact that it was the most recent example I could think of.
I only think 4 were out when the first HP film came out (2001) so with the new twilight out in august (it is a new twilight right) the 2 films should be on par at least in terms of total books in the series at the date of the first film.
Now if the 5.5 million books world wide posted above is the correct amount for the series. (I posted a 6 million figure above) then I would suspect the twilight audience (who have read the books) is significantly smaller at the point of the first movie than hp. Although I don’t know the number of books at the point of the HP1 movie.This does not say anything about the quality of the books. Just a comment on the numbers. So I think the JKR comparisons are a little premature at this point. (Writers like to predict the next > it makes for easy articles) Again this doesn’t say anything bad about meyer.
Titanic did have the repeat female watch. I think that helped the tail it had. But it also drew a lot of men at opening. Who didn’t know it was going to be a love story going it to it. It was from the director of T2 after all.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:50 am
good, popular books don’t always equal good, popular movies. The movie needs to branch out past the fanbase and grab the average moviegoer.
Twilight is not high brow literature or anything. But I think it IS high concept enough to translate onto the big screen quite easily. Whther they drop the ball with it marketing and advertising wise remains to be seen. But I think Twilight is like a dream movie pitch really with it’s cross genre story setup.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Yeah!! maybe that will mean the movie will do good! I cant wait!
May 9th, 2008 at 11:59 am
@mary
If there is anything this anything I will do is give movies a chance. The only reason i know what the audience was like in Pride and Prejudice was because I was the only guy there. (I make my gf see a lot of shitty movies, I don’t put up much fight when she wants to see something) Like I said before at this point there are 2 pluses to this flick. The director and the female lead. The hype also has me intrigued. You have to admit even the covers of the books skew very female. They don’t even try to make it appeal to guys. I saw them before all this stuff in a bookstore and was immediately turned off. It was until this came out that I realized the book with apple on it was what this movie is based on. Again that doesn’t bode well to male appeal.
I don’t know if they will try and go after the male market. And that is why the trailer reflects this. They might just decide to play to the base and not try going after the uninitiated for fear of alienating that base.
What can we expect to see in future trailers that will change our minds?
May 9th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
This movie will not appeal to everyone…so what? I’m glad that the “Jims” of the world will not be sitting anywhere in the movie theater watching it making whatever comments ruining the experience. I do not spend money on movies that do not appeal to me either. We are all individuals, that is our choice.
I think it’s ridiculous that people are becoming so defensive about the whole issue. I like Stephenie Meyers style of writing, therefore I buy her books and will go see the movie. When the movie is released I think the numbers will speak for themselves, in volume.
If you don’t like Twilight…good for you. If you love Twilight…isn’t it a great world?! :)
Lighten up people.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
@Ttwilight
Look Up.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Jim:
They are going to try to appeal to the men here. I have to find the article but from what I saw, younger males were more open to Twilight than older males. They have been trying to get previews played at a number of comic book conventions as well, and those previews are very testosterone plagued. Alot of heavy metal music, alot of action, blood and gore and decapitations.
As someone said before, this particular teaser is being attached in theaters to romantic comedies like the Cameron Diaz Vegas movie out this weekend-so it would make sense they make a chick flicky trailer for that sort of audiene.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
ps JIm: This is the preview clip that was shown at a national comic book convention a couple weeks back. That’s where they got some feedback in terms of younger vs. older male reactions to the teaser:
http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1585900&vid=226476
May 9th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Good point, nomi: There is a teaser video on Twilight Film’s Youtube channel that I think is VERY well done and will probably appeal to males more than the trailer. The video I’m talking about was feathured at comic con. There is word that more marketing for the film will be featured at the San Deigo Comic Con, I think in June.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Just logged on. This is funny news.
It proves that there are way more stupid people in the world than smart. Sorry, if this is your taste, you’re dumb. You may say it’s popular…but so is Sean Kingston and Crash(2005)….so there. I don’t believe in the whole “some tastes for some people” thing. I think there are things that are shitty, and things that are good. If you like this, your taste in movies/books is kinda retarded.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
@nomi
Have there been comic book screenings so far? Or are you saying they plan to?
There are decapitations in this book? Why is this the first we are hearing? All these fangirls talking about the critics not understanding the romance of the book never mentioned a body count.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
@Tina
Link Please?
May 9th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Hmmmm… All this talk about different material appealing to male/female viewers has me thinking. What does it have me thinking? That perhaps this movie is going to suffer from an identity crisis. I mean, which is it? Action packed movie, or romance movie? Female demographic target or male? This was my concerns when I watched the teaser trailer. I had watched some of the behind the scenes footage and it was very focused on the action sequences but this makes me think it’s focused on romance.
Unless the official trailer can show us accurately the ratio of romance to violence I think people will continue to be turned off by it.
I’m also still curious about the unique views of the trailer vs. Indy’s unique views. I mean, Indy has a much broader, more established fan base/interest. Who hasn’t scene the original trilogy? It’s something that so many people grew up with it makes sense that they would be curious about the first look of the movie. Can it really be argued that the Twilight fanbase is as large as that? It’s like comparing it to the Star Wars fanbase. Large it might be, but not that large. Films like Star Wars and Indy are in an entirely different league.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
jim-yeah, there’s a body count. Basically here’s teh summary. boy falls for girl. Boy also sorta wants to kill her though cause she smells so tempting and he wants to suck her blood out. Girl falls for boy. Then just when you think maybe they have a chance, a bunch of blood thirsty vamps come to town,and one sets their fangs on Bella. So, you got boy fighting to keep himself from eating her(he really, really desires to kill her even though he likes her and all), but also fighting another vampire who sees Bella as a prize. The end has a bunch of gore and decapitations and shredding of bodies and setting the pieces on fire…..lol
May 9th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
So I’ve read a good majority of the comments on here and I’m going to be the middle ground here. Yes I am a fan of the books, but at the same point I was one of the fans that did not want a movie made for it.
The comparison to Harry Potter is just making me laugh. And most of you need to realize that Harry Potter (the movies) wouldn’t be what it is with out the books fan base. So everyone telling you to read the books, it’s a warranted argument. And the movies also caused a lot of people to start reading the books. Thus what the teaser trailer was aiming to do for the Twilight series.
Yes the trailer was aimed mostly to a female audience. And yes they really do want you to gain enough interest to go out and read the books that the movie is based on. Do I think that you will have to read the books to understand the movie, no. Do I think it would be a wise decision before saying that the entire franchise is shit, yes. I think if your going to go up against a fandom that is as large as the Twilight fandom, it would be in your best interest to do your research.
Next Point:
There are a couple of facts that say that this movie/series may very well be the next Harry Potter. The last book released in the Twilight series sold enough copies to knock the 7th Harry Potter book out of the number 1 spot on the best sellers list. Now that should be a slight indication right there. And yes it hasn’t sold the same amount of books as Harry Potter has yet, but give it time. You need to remember that when the 7th book came out, the HP series already had what 4 movies under it’s belt.
I think that the Twilight series is doing very well for as little publicity as it’s had up until the news of this movie. Most of the fan base was word of mouth, not the millions of dollars spent in advertisements that the HP series receives for each project.
Next Point:
Yes based on the teaser trailer alone, I can see where some may think the movie looks like it’s going to suck. But please keep in mind that this is mainly geared towards a female audience in the age group of 15 to 24. I can honestly say that once more actual trailers come out you may change your opinion.
And I don’t really feel that comparing it to Indiana Jones is really fair in any right. Indiana Jones has had a fanbase for what 20 years. For a teaser trailer to be getting as many views as it has, I think that should make you take notice and dive a little deeper. Yeah it’s not going to appeal to everyone, but take it for what it is, a teaser trailer for a movie thats is based on a book series.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
duca: Many movies target different demographics in their marketing. I don’t think Twilight is doing anything very different. Especially for a holiday release where they want good numbers, they always “cross-pollinate” marketing wise. You saw that with the Golden Compass. When they were targeting adults, they showed a darker, more ominous trailer. When they were targeting children, they made a lighter trailer that was very whimsical looking.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
http://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialTwilightFilm
There are a couple videos there from Summit…they are both pretty good…
May 9th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
This isn’t suprising. Dark Knight can spend tones of money on advertising, spreading the word in interesting way’s, but simple word of mouth has gotten this film these figures.
When you have a strong teen girl fan base, the message spreads very quickly.
I’m currenly reading the first book to understand the fuss. So far it’s very romance orientated and the main Vampire Edward comes of a very appealing character to girls. I’m not shocked it has the fan base it has.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
ps JIm: yes, they have already previewed these sneak peaks at comic book conventions.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Jim - I tried posting the link Tina was talking about about a kajillion times but it wouldn’t work for some reason. To see it all you have to do is go to YouTube and in the search box type “Twilight Comic-Con Teaser” and it’s the first video.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
@nomi
I have a question about the he wants to kill her but also loves her conflict? What do girls find appealing about this? I don’t mean to start a fight. I just don’t get it. Is it that his love for her wins out of his desire to kill her? The danger that he could snap at any time?
Also how is that conflict presented in the book? Is it explained through narration? Can it translate to the screen where you aren’t explicitly told what he is thinking?
How much action is there in the first 20 minutes? I don’t think the guys will wait around through all the mushy stuff until the end. There will need to be something before then.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Just to clarify, this is just a teaser trailer - a sneak peak, if you will. It is usually given out early to a specific audience (in this case the die hard fans) so that the marketing team can get an idea of how the production will be received on a national scale. Most people who haven’t read the books are watching this teaser and thinking “wtf?” but those who have understand each and every single detail of the scenes shown in the teaser trailer. That was their intention(Summit), to gage your reactions to make sure they had delivered a good product before it will air nationally.
Now I don’t know about you but this is not the finished product. They just barely finished filming a couple of days ago. And the fact that they are already giving us a teaser says something. And the fact it’s in the process of breaking records on hits on the internet says something too. I assure you they were reaching the “die hard book fans” demographic with this teaser trailer. I’m sure the finished product will be reaching the wider audience.
Thanks /Film for the article, very much appreciated =)
May 9th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I don’t think you are trying to start a fight-you’ve been very cool debating back and forth. So, here’s my take.
Why would girls find the setup appealing? Cause it’s a fantastic twist on the romeo and juliet star crossed lovers theme. INstead of having warring families seperate them though, his nature is what seperates them. It’s a forbidden love them basically, those always go over wel. And his attempt to negotiate a relationship with someone who naturally should be his prey is a theme that tends to be a hit generally as well.
From the script leaks I’ve seen, the movie one ups the book in terms of presenting the conflict–the visuals used to show the conflict especially in the beginning are awesome actually. His reaction to her initially specifically.
I think they are padding the movie to add some action actually in the beginning because the book is like this—character-relationship driven for the first 2/3….then wham! goes into thriller-action mode. But from what I gather, the action has been dispersed more evenly throughout.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
@Becky
So I just watched it. You are talking about the making of thing right?
They don’t really show final stuff just the behind the scenes stuff. They are filming action. But until its finalized it is hard to comment on it.
And they guy who plays the dad. He’s been a vampire before in another movie hasnt he?
May 9th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
GO TWILIGHTERS! Let’s get this trailer to #1 and shove it in all the naysayers faces!!
May 9th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
@nomi
That is why i asked how the action was spread out. Because I don’t think you could get away with it the way it is in the book. If you wanted to present it as an action movie. I mean gone with wind ends with a fire but I don’t think any calls it a disaster movie.
Re: his conflict.
I can understand the forbidden love thing. Like romeo and Juliet’s, thats about love conquering circumstance but Romeo never wanted kill Juliet. Is there something about her not being safe around him that women find appealing. Is that the bad boy mystique?
May 9th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
@Jim,
You could say his love for her wins out his desire for her blood. It’s already been narrated throughout the book series with this. How it is narrated, well, you will be able to see it in this movie and will just get more expressed in the following movies, if they are given the rights to them.
With this whole conflict being presented from book to movie form, I assure you it will translate. The best thing about this movie adaptation is that we see what the other side (Edward), thanks to Stephenie Meyer. “Midnight Sun” (the yet to be released counterpart of Twilight told in Edward’s point of view) has been incorporated in this movie so we get a really good idea on what exactly was going on with him. Very smart for the screenwriters to do this.
As for the first 20 minutes, I’m not sure how they’re really going to start this movie. Some have an inkling as to what the opening sequence is (it was announced indiscreetly in one online video from the stunt director) but we don’t really know.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
@Jaen
It’s not going to be silly though is it. I mean shots like him behind her kissing her neck then and he looks like he is going to bite her but then he fights it and all the while she doesn’t know.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
jim: Sure, I think the fact it’s forbidden and even dangerous to your health to like a vamp is part of the appeal. Taboo stuff always appeals. Interspecies dating would fall into that cateogory. lol
But I think alot of the danger actually acts as a metaphor for first love. If I had to simplify what the book does best, it’s describing how imbalanced first love can be, vamps or no vamps. And so the danger part to me works from a metaphorical angle in that sense.
And it presents a good twist on the romeo/juliet angle. Because usually the conflicts come from the outside-from “society” or family telling you it’s wrong. The conflict here begins within.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
The conflict isn’t with him kissing her. By the time he works up to wanting to kiss her, he’s passed some “milestones” you could say in terms of disciplining his appetites.
The conflict will be mostly in the initial stages where he hasn’t personalized her enough to not see her as a nice midafternoon appetizer. That’s where the conflict will be fun to watch. And how they have set up to present that conflict is quite good visually.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
I thought he already was off eating people before he met her?
May 9th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
@nomi
Cereberally, I guess I can see it. I don’t think it will ever connect with me though. I also have problems with the age difference. It is just seems creepy to me. I mean if I suspend my disbelief enough to believe that some can look 17 and be 100. I assume that person to be 100. I guess i don’t see how a 100 year old could connect with a 17 year old. I mean I know there is a maturity gap between men and women but it isn’t that big.
I guess I’ll have to ask it? How similar is it to buffy / angel?
May 9th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
He had abstained from killing humans for over a century. Although it is still a temptation, he tolerates it fine. But Bella’s blood is especially tempting to him, to the point he wants to kill her the first time he gets near enough to her. He tries to be stronger than that desire, and attempts to even humanize her by talking to her. And it’s in that attempt to humanize her that he ends up falling for her.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Yeah, that’s a problem for people. But in many ways in the story, he’s not 100. He’s 17. He has years of experience as a vampire. But at the same time he’s still experiencing his existence in a 17 year old body. His century as a vampire has been somewhat insulated–he’s with vampires who don’t “hang” with the other vampires since they abstain from killing humans. They can’t really connect with humans at the same time, because their difference are so great. So, his years as a vampire are not exactly a wealth of new experiences or understandings. In many ways, he’s still 17 years old, especially when it comes to relationships.
Not so much Buffy if you ask me. I’m a Buffy fan too.
May 9th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
See the age thing is one of those things that i find never really gets taken care of in vampire movies. I find that they always act the way they look not the age they are.
I think interview with a vampire was actually a movie that acknowledged that with the kristen dunst character. How she looked child like but wasn’t a child and that caused a lot of problems for her.
May 9th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
haha, yeah, kristen had a total “the tin drum” moment in that movie!
Yeah, it’s not neatly solved, the age thing. In fact the lead actor even mentioned that his take on his character was that he must feel weird being this old guy who’s falling for 17 year old girl.
May 9th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Well at least its acknowledged. Thats a step. Gotta run.
May 9th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
@ Jim
If Summit does a good job on the trailer then they will market that action and suspense of the movie. I can tell you one thing, there is more to the movie than the love scenes. If Summit, which I am sure they will, adds the action and the thrill of the nomadic vampires hunting Bella to the trailer I think it will draw some people. I remember reading that part in the book and telling myself that I needed to go to sleep, but I ended up not putting the book down until I was finished which wasnt until 6am.
May 9th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
@ Jim
About the whole age difference between Bella and Edward. Edward has really been alone for his whole life, except for his family, thinking that he was complete in himself. Then when he finds this one person in the world that now only does he crave her blood more than anyone else’s he also craves to be around her, and that is without saying that she is also the only person in the world that he cannot read her mind. He is drawn to her even though he shouldnt be. I think that is why people like this so much. It is the tension of knowing that he shouldnt be with her, but he would sacrifice everything to be with her.
May 9th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
@ Jim,
Thanks for asking these questions and trying to get more insight into the story and movie.
In regards to Bella - in the book she does feel right off the bat something different about Edward but doesn’t know what. It’s when she finally figures it out what he is that she realizes it really doesn’t make a difference. I think that’s what is appealing (for the most part) to this fanbase. It’s the “it doesn’t matter what you are or who you are, I love you just the same.” She knows he wants to kill her every single moment he’s with her but she doesn’t care. She trusts that he wouldn’t hurt her. It’s that trust that really gets to Edward. I don’t think he’s known anyone in his lifetime that would trust him so much with their life.
I have trust in Summit. The mood they are going for in this movie is not cheesiness. It’s the intenseness of the characters that will truly blow everyone away.
May 9th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I thought it looked terrible–thought the book was drivel. All my friends laughed hard at the teaser trailer. Showed it to an entire group of people, they all were laughing or rolling their eyes. Or they ignored it and went to back to to whatever they were doing. The trailer alone was MST3K fodder. Edward jumped around like a frog. And why would a 100 year old vampire go to High School? Sparkly vampires? Talk about taking the short bus, these must be Grade A stupid vampires.
May 9th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
@ Selma
As pointed out before the book is not for some. And I believe that the trailer was good, but only really picked up on the tension between Edward and Bella. But I believe that the movie is going to be really good. If it is not, we Twilight fans still have the book.
May 9th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
@mary
see that is the stuff i cant buy. Imagine a 40 year old guy who never had a gf. Now would you believe him if he started dating your 17 year old daughter if he gave you reasons like that. Now double his age and add 20.
I guess I am too cynical for the romance of the book. It just doesn’t ring true. I mean what happens when the infatuation wears off and they start fighting about paying the bills or she starts nagging him about his friends or staying out all night. Wouldn’t he just end up eating her. Kidding.
May 9th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
@ Jim
Some comments on the syllogisms you posted earlier (nice attempt at summation, by the way):
“Everyone Agrees Fans of the Books Like the Trailer.” - No. There are fans of the books who don’t like the trailer. (And who do think the Edward dude has a big, fat, pale head.)
“People who haven’t read the books, at least the ones commenting here, Don’t like the trailer.” - Seems like. But there are people who haven’t read the books who DO like, or at least are intrigued by, the trailer.
“People who don’t like the trailer feel (rightly so, IMHO) that they shouldn’t have to read a book to be able to say whether a trailer appeals to them.” - I entirely agree.
The derivations and computations of the “somes” and “alls” and “everyones” are pretty complex, and I say we hold judgment on the movie til it actually comes out. Even then, people might say it sucked big time, views will differ, wars will rage, but it may still end up a box-office bonanza.
May 9th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
@Ian
If you read enough of the posts in this thread you might find that the “Somes”,”Alls” and “Everyones” are not technically or globally true. But in the sandbox that is this thread I think they were true enough to deal with the OMG!!1ers and the EPIC FAILers.
May 9th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Almost everyone who has been running around trashing Twilight has never read the book. The books are infinitely better than the movie will be; that’s just the law of book-movie relationships. But us Twi-hards are just grateful we’re getting a visual. It won’t be perfect, but we all want to see our favorite scenes on the big screen. We would all appreciate it if people like Freddie would be a little better informed before they start using profanity in conjunction with the series that we love.
May 9th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
GO TWILIGHTERS!WE’RE SO GONNA KICK ASS!
May 9th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
People. Shut up with the “This trailer sucks” crap! If Twilight’s TEASER Trailer can rival that of Indiana Jone’s official trailer, what do you think what will happen when the OFFICIAL Twilight trailer comes out. I could bet that us fans would watch repeat after repeat.
Also, Twilight has legions upon legions of fans. Can you people put the picture together!? If the Twilight TEASER trailer is up their catching up, don’t you think that the movi