That’s exactly what I think as well. Nolan and Eckhart would not give that away.

And whose to say that Dents fiancée doesn’t die in the beginning of the film or shown in flashback? Maybe she was working at the bank the Joker robs in the prologue? Who knows. I would think Nolan and Eckhart have the sense to keep as much as they can quiet but it’s all relative. Honestly I would rather have Rachel Dawes killed then just disappear like Vicki Vail.

Or we could be way off.

LOL At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if Maggie Gyllenhaal dies, only to find out she was a clone of the real Rachel Dawes (exposed at the end as being Katie Holmes), where she goes on to convert Joker and Two-Face to Scientology.

In any case, I’m looking forward to the movie. :)

Revealing that a major character dies is a big spoiler, please don’t pretend it’s not.

You can mock me for over-reacting. I’m a big boy and I can take it. But to deny that revealing a major character dies is a big spoiler so please don’t pretend like it’s not.

Or at least refraining from looking up anything about the film.

Or just, y’know, when something says spoiler, or ‘if you want to see the unblurred version, click it. If you’re a big whiney sissy that thinks everything’s a spoiler–then hey guess what?! don’t click it!’

JEEZUS. The chick always DIES. Its not that big a surprise, happens in LOTS of movies, especially superhero ones.

Simply lol. What I love about this site is that they take into account readers’ comments. MEGA-SPOILER!! Very nice, though. I don’t know if any of you guys are familiar with the CHUD website, but of the guys there wrote a short article on the new poster for The Dark Knight, and, in the process, mentioned how Batman Begins is fatally flawed. All of the readers were outraged (including myself), causing the writer to write another article in his defense. What is funny is that he didn’t allow user comments on that second article!

I still don’t know what to think of the whole fiancee thing. I’ve only recently begun to truly delve into the Batman world (comics, etc). I did read The Long Halloween, and yeah, Harvey’s wife is still alive at the end. I just don’t think that Nolan would give away this much info (Eckhart either) before the movie has premiered. I don’t think that Dent, at the beginning of this film, is fine and dandy. I think that his fiancee has already died, and he finds comfort in Rachel, and they date. Maybe I’m all wrong and Rachel is the fiancee that dies. I guess what I’m trying to say is that even if Rachel is the fiancee that Eckhart is referring to in the LA Times article, there is still so much not told to the story. My personal take is that Rachel is not his fiancee, and that the scene of the Joker throwing her off the building does not lead to her death…it just doesn’t seem like a Nolan thing to do…that would be more of a scape-goatish way of getting rid of someone…Nolan is better than that.

This film is a puzzle right now, with only a couple of pieces fit into place, and that’s what I enjoy about Nolan and TDK. The movie will simply blow people away because of its ingenuity and unpredictability. Sorry, this was a bit long-winded.

No-no-no…I meant a pretty big something in terms of the “something in the plot that drives Harvey bonkers” area.

But good point on the Dent comment. I do remember that, and vaguely recall him just leaving because he didn’t want her to have to deal with taking care of him. I could be wrong in recalling that.

First of all, I don’t think Rachel being tossed off the building was a huge moment. In the Spider-Man trailers Mary Jane is constantly being thrown off roofs. You don’t actually expect her to go “splat.” I know I didn’t. Especially with Batman testing all this new “flying’ gear throughout the trailer.

Second, in The Long Halloween, Harvey’s wife isn’t killed but he still goes bonkers. So, while I appreciate how Rachel’s death would add to this — all you said is spot on — I could MUCH rather have discovered it throughout the course of the movie.

Yes, I know, “Sam, he’s pretty friggin’ scarred from [insert cause of him becoming Two-Face in the movie here]. Isn’t that enough to drive him nuts?”

Not necessarily. If Rachel survives (and assuming she stays with him), he’d be a horribly disfigured district attorney with self-loathing issues but with a girl that helps him stay sane, therefore eliminating his need for excessive justice and vengeance. So, we know there’s something in the plot that drives Harvey bonkers.

And that momentary shot in the trailer of Dawes getting dropped is a pretty massive something. So, you can see it coming just by the mention of having Two-Face in the next movie(s).

Again, not an expert and not a psychoanalyst by any means. Just made sense to me that Rachel Dawes wasn’t going to survive this movie, and why she needed to go, because:

1. It pushes Dent’s psyche in the appropriate direction to become Two-Face.

2. It (likely) drives Bruce to continue his fight, knowing he’s not able to stop now that worse elements have entered the picture.

3. There’s now an emotional wedge driven between Bruce and Harvey. Something more for them to fight over outside of just their ideals on justice vs. vengeance.

*Shrug* Of course, I could just be thinking about this too much. LOL