Comments on: Superman Sequel: Superman as an “Angry God”? http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/ Blogging the Reel World Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:20:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: the Berg! http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-301616 the Berg! Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:13:19 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-301616 Peter Berg needs to direct the Superman reboot. Have you seen the new Hancock trailer? Damn, why couldn't SR have looked like that? Peter Berg needs to direct the Superman reboot. Have you seen the new Hancock trailer? Damn, why couldn’t SR have looked like that?

]]> By: orange cinema http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-301493 orange cinema Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:06:41 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-301493 superman could be pushed in this direction by the death of a certain young one. and after the fright of an angry god, one man alone could fight and reason with him at the same time, even if it's just a scene or two. hulk & iron man are crossing over, wouldnt this be an excellent opportunity for bats & supes to share the screen? IF AND ONLY IF - nolan, bale, routh, singer are on the same page. holy shit thats an idea. superman could be pushed in this direction by the death of a certain young one. and after the fright of an angry god, one man alone could fight and reason with him at the same time, even if it’s just a scene or two. hulk & iron man are crossing over, wouldnt this be an excellent opportunity for bats & supes to share the screen?

IF AND ONLY IF - nolan, bale, routh, singer are on the same page.

holy shit thats an idea.

]]> By: Seth http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-301282 Seth Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:35:57 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-301282 Methinks they are making the same mistakes they made with Superman Returns. It was a decent movie, but they misunderstood the franchise. It doesn't need high concept or such thoughtful premises. Superman I and II were Superman stopping bad guys and saving Lois. That's it! We don't need "a darker superman." We don't need a son of Superman or Lex Luthor's anger at being imprisoned. It's Superman! Not X-Men, not Spiderman. It shouldn't be subtle. Superman = good. Bad guys = bad and/or funny and bad. That's it!! Methinks they are making the same mistakes they made with Superman Returns. It was a decent movie, but they misunderstood the franchise.

It doesn’t need high concept or such thoughtful premises. Superman I and II were Superman stopping bad guys and saving Lois.

That’s it! We don’t need “a darker superman.” We don’t need a son of Superman or Lex Luthor’s anger at being imprisoned.

It’s Superman! Not X-Men, not Spiderman.

It shouldn’t be subtle. Superman = good. Bad guys = bad and/or funny and bad.

That’s it!!

]]> By: Reboot http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300983 Reboot Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:52:39 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300983 Bryan Singer doesn't know crap about Superman and cares less. He does however love his old mentor Dick Donner and Lauren Shuler Donner. Which is why Superman Returns was an awful remake attempt instead of a real new Superman movie. As long as the director finds his main character, Superman, in his words "Boring!" then we expect the sequel to be another epic fail. Bryan Singer doesn’t know crap about Superman and cares less. He does however love his old mentor Dick Donner and Lauren Shuler Donner. Which is why Superman Returns was an awful remake attempt instead of a real new Superman movie. As long as the director finds his main character, Superman, in his words “Boring!” then we expect the sequel to be another epic fail.

]]> By: wow http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300711 wow Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:07:13 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300711 i said that out of sarcasm, SUPERMAN RETURNS was not good, not awful but not good, Times have changed since superman 1 and 2, luther is a strong villan in the comic world one of the most feared minds umongst superheroes, in all 5 movies hes a bumbling idiot criminal.....they cant 180 his character, so just do the movie without him....bring in BRAINIAC, BIZARRO, GOG (WHO IS AN ANGRY NEW GOD) MR. M, or better yet call BRUCE WAYNE to take down SUPERMAN, then we finally have that BATMAN VS SUPERMAN MOVIE... i said that out of sarcasm, SUPERMAN RETURNS was not good, not awful but not good, Times have changed since superman 1 and 2, luther is a strong villan in the comic world one of the most feared minds umongst superheroes, in all 5 movies hes a bumbling idiot criminal…..they cant 180 his character, so just do the movie without him….bring in BRAINIAC, BIZARRO, GOG (WHO IS AN ANGRY NEW GOD) MR. M, or better yet call BRUCE WAYNE to take down SUPERMAN, then we finally have that BATMAN VS SUPERMAN MOVIE…

]]> By: Danny Bell http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300639 Danny Bell Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:02:53 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300639 OOOKKKKAAAAYYYYY!!!!!! (lisa, they would'nt dare make superman like a new batman movie; singer would not let that happen) (wow, SERIOUSLY!!! this is the same continuity as supermans 1 and 2; tom welling is built for superboy, but cant handle the super suit as well as routh does.) (seth, that tiny little speck of kryptonite does not take supermans powers away, but hugely decreases them; he also flew into the upper atmosphere to get a super charge, and yes, superman has before survived kryptonite poisoning in the comics.) now that im finished downing people (but there is more if you prompt me) i can defend this. picture: Lex luthor discovers a Kryptonian AI machine, AI machine wakes up and starts to try to recreate life on new krypton (in jupiter's orbit) new life is sparked, and rapidly evolves into some badass beasty: lexy sees oppertunity and convinces the AI to use the monster to eradicate the lone survivor of "old" krypton. AI sends beasty into the heart on metropolis to fight our guy. supes get his butt kicked. lots, and i mean LOTS of civilians are lost as collateral damage in the fight. lil jason is targeted by big nasty creature (duh, kryptonian child) and is seemingly killed: superman is completely ticked off now ("KKHHHHAAAAAAAAANNNN!!!!!!") big fight. HUGE fight. more damage. superman really ticked. both parties are killed. lil jason get a big ol' speach on how to responsibly use his abilities. "Superman: the man of steel" (who did not see that one?) OOOKKKKAAAAYYYYY!!!!!!

(lisa, they would’nt dare make superman like a new batman movie; singer would not let that happen)

(wow, SERIOUSLY!!! this is the same continuity as supermans 1 and 2; tom welling is built for superboy, but cant handle the super suit as well as routh does.)

(seth, that tiny little speck of kryptonite does not take supermans powers away, but hugely decreases them; he also flew into the upper atmosphere to get a super charge, and yes, superman has before survived kryptonite poisoning in the comics.)

now that im finished downing people (but there is more if you prompt me) i can defend this.

picture: Lex luthor discovers a Kryptonian AI machine, AI machine wakes up and starts to try to recreate life on new krypton (in jupiter’s orbit) new life is sparked, and rapidly evolves into some badass beasty: lexy sees oppertunity and convinces the AI to use the monster to eradicate the lone survivor of “old” krypton. AI sends beasty into the heart on metropolis to fight our guy. supes get his butt kicked. lots, and i mean LOTS of civilians are lost as collateral damage in the fight. lil jason is targeted by big nasty creature (duh, kryptonian child) and is seemingly killed: superman is completely ticked off now (”KKHHHHAAAAAAAAANNNN!!!!!!”)
big fight.
HUGE fight.
more damage.
superman really ticked.
both parties are killed.
lil jason get a big ol’ speach on how to responsibly use his abilities.

“Superman: the man of steel”
(who did not see that one?)

]]> By: Hoopla - Entertainment Blog » Blog Archive » ‘Superman’ Sequel Might Reveal an “Angry God” http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300386 Hoopla - Entertainment Blog » Blog Archive » ‘Superman’ Sequel Might Reveal an “Angry God” Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:24:44 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300386 [...] Slashfilm: “Maybe Man of Steel will have a Superman who begins to make irrational emotion-based [...] [...] Slashfilm: “Maybe Man of Steel will have a Superman who begins to make irrational emotion-based [...]

]]> By: wow http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300231 wow Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:07:03 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300231 NEW GOD DARKSEID Omega effects superman son and makes him dissappear, darkseid also changes brandon routh into tom welling...superman gets angry of his new look but finds out that he can act better than before..........its going to be a great movie NEW GOD DARKSEID Omega effects superman son and makes him dissappear, darkseid also changes brandon routh into tom welling…superman gets angry of his new look but finds out that he can act better than before……….its going to be a great movie

]]> By: Seth http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300208 Seth Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:54:05 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300208 I would rather some kid think Superman is a "Bad-ass" (as silly as that is) and buy a few comics than watch Superman Returns and be confused. Why does Superman have a kid? Why doesn’t kryptonite actually kill Superman? Why does Cyclops not have his glasses on? Why is Superman takeing a break from trying to save the world to sneak a peek at his old girl friend? I still think they should "Superman Begins" the whole thing...its so far off base these days...if you are going to be that far from the source you might as well do a Red Son or Death of.... I would rather some kid think Superman is a “Bad-ass” (as silly as that is) and buy a few comics than watch Superman Returns and be confused. Why does Superman have a kid? Why doesn’t kryptonite actually kill Superman? Why does Cyclops not have his glasses on? Why is Superman takeing a break from trying to save the world to sneak a peek at his old girl friend?
I still think they should “Superman Begins” the whole thing…its so far off base these days…if you are going to be that far from the source you might as well do a Red Son or Death of….

]]> By: pat http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300166 pat Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:21:06 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-300166 If they do that then I refuse to see the movie. That kind of story arc is fine for the comics where people already know what Superman is really about but not for a movie where kids uninitiated with the character will be seeing him for the first time and having that image of him imprinted in their minds. The character is far too iconic for that. If they do that then I refuse to see the movie. That kind of story arc is fine for the comics where people already know what Superman is really about but not for a movie where kids uninitiated with the character will be seeing him for the first time and having that image of him imprinted in their minds. The character is far too iconic for that.

]]> By: Superman to be "an angry god"? | ConversationalBall.com http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299745 Superman to be "an angry god"? | ConversationalBall.com Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:18:20 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299745 [...] revealed that Superman: Man of Steel will portray the title hero as “an angry god.” SlashFilm speculates what Tull may have meant by this description, which certainly contrasts to [...] [...] revealed that Superman: Man of Steel will portray the title hero as “an angry god.” SlashFilm speculates what Tull may have meant by this description, which certainly contrasts to [...]

]]> By: x-man http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299631 x-man Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:45:35 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299631 ya right, superman shouldn't be angry most of us would have prefered a wise-cracking humorous happy-go-lucky chap like peter parker ya right, superman shouldn’t be angry
most of us would have prefered a wise-cracking humorous happy-go-lucky chap like peter parker

]]> By: JFK http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299612 JFK Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:30:04 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299612 @lisa Yep you got it. I think you're Jonathan Rosenbaum in disguise. @lisa

Yep you got it. I think you’re Jonathan Rosenbaum in disguise.

]]> By: StoicRomance http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299608 StoicRomance Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:27:53 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299608 @Josh For the same reason why we trumpet the awesome that is stories like Birthright, Kingdom Come and Red Son. See, for anyone who has read these (and don't tell me that is not Superman, because its the films that have it wrong) knows that Superman has depth and layers. What we got with Superman Returns was shoddily written, poorly acted CGI clusterfuck. Seriously, the way Routh was directed (notice how I give him the benefit of the doubt as an actor) was decidedly flat. Why does Superman have to be like that? In the books, the guy has emotions and inner conflicts. In the movies, he seems incredibly boring. How in the hell does a guy with a personality like it was portrayed in Returns get a date with Lois Lane, much less knock her up? Having said that, its a problem inhernent in most superhero movies. The characters are boiled down to their hyperbolizing, expository Silver Age versions that are boring to watch and impossible to invest in. Superman Returns was not a bad movie on a lot of levels, but on important ones (for example, the CHARACTER IN THE TITLE) it falls flat. Read Kingdom Come. Read Birthright. Read Red Son. Shit, read the various Crisis books, and the Death of Superman if you have not. These are the reasons why we "Internet film nerd types" disliked Superman Returns. Because the drama we know Supes for is not the drama we got. And its sad, because it will probably be 30 years before someone else gets a shot. @Josh

For the same reason why we trumpet the awesome that is stories like Birthright, Kingdom Come and Red Son.

See, for anyone who has read these (and don’t tell me that is not Superman, because its the films that have it wrong) knows that Superman has depth and layers.

What we got with Superman Returns was shoddily written, poorly acted CGI clusterfuck.

Seriously, the way Routh was directed (notice how I give him the benefit of the doubt as an actor) was decidedly flat. Why does Superman have to be like that? In the books, the guy has emotions and inner conflicts. In the movies, he seems incredibly boring. How in the hell does a guy with a personality like it was portrayed in Returns get a date with Lois Lane, much less knock her up?

Having said that, its a problem inhernent in most superhero movies. The characters are boiled down to their hyperbolizing, expository Silver Age versions that are boring to watch and impossible to invest in.

Superman Returns was not a bad movie on a lot of levels, but on important ones (for example, the CHARACTER IN THE TITLE) it falls flat.

Read Kingdom Come. Read Birthright. Read Red Son. Shit, read the various Crisis books, and the Death of Superman if you have not. These are the reasons why we “Internet film nerd types” disliked Superman Returns. Because the drama we know Supes for is not the drama we got. And its sad, because it will probably be 30 years before someone else gets a shot.

]]> By: RUMOR: ¿Un Superman desatado en The Man of Steel? « Salón del Mal© Presentado por el Dr Malo http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299588 RUMOR: ¿Un Superman desatado en The Man of Steel? « Salón del Mal© Presentado por el Dr Malo Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:12:32 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299588 [...] en la segunda entrega que prepara Bryan Singer conocida como “The Man of Steel“. En /Film tratan de encontrar alguna concordancia a esos dichos, asociándolos a lo vista en la novela [...] [...] en la segunda entrega que prepara Bryan Singer conocida como “The Man of Steel“. En /Film tratan de encontrar alguna concordancia a esos dichos, asociándolos a lo vista en la novela [...]

]]> By: Lisa http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299585 Lisa Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:11:30 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299585 After the craptacular disappointment of broody Superman Returns with bitch face Lois and bastard child, the same studio is going to piss off everyone by turning Superman into broody Angry God!Batman. Those geniuses hire Nolan and suddenly think all the Bats success is their doing. This Thomas Tull desk jockey douche gets a swelled head out of the success of Angry God!Leonidas and and Angry God!Batman and he decides to completely pervert our charming Boy Scout into Angry God!Superman. These pencil pushing financial parasites latch onto the true creatives like Nolan and suddenly think their own "inspirational changes" to beloved icons are pure gold, instead of runny shit. So, they'll apply the exact same template of 300 and Batman to Superman, and won't everybody love that???? SUPERMAN ISN'T BATMAN! But all these fat ass CEOs want to make Superman "cooler" and isn't Batman the coolest thing ever? "So of course all we need to do is completely rape Superman's personality until he's identical to Batman and we'll be raking in the coin!" After the craptacular disappointment of broody Superman Returns with bitch face Lois and bastard child, the same studio is going to piss off everyone by turning Superman into broody Angry God!Batman. Those geniuses hire Nolan and suddenly think all the Bats success is their doing.

This Thomas Tull desk jockey douche gets a swelled head out of the success of Angry God!Leonidas and and Angry God!Batman and he decides to completely pervert our charming Boy Scout into Angry God!Superman. These pencil pushing financial parasites latch onto the true creatives like Nolan and suddenly think their own “inspirational changes” to beloved icons are pure gold, instead of runny shit. So, they’ll apply the exact same template of 300 and Batman to Superman, and won’t everybody love that????

SUPERMAN ISN’T BATMAN!

But all these fat ass CEOs want to make Superman “cooler” and isn’t Batman the coolest thing ever? “So of course all we need to do is completely rape Superman’s personality until he’s identical to Batman and we’ll be raking in the coin!”

]]> By: Steven Spielberg http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299562 Steven Spielberg Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:00:27 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299562 joshmayhood have you ever heard of..the bandwaggon? joshmayhood

have you ever heard of..the bandwaggon?

]]> By: madgds http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299558 madgds Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:58:11 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299558 @Josh I think it has to do with the fact that people wanted a popcorn movie and got a serious drama. I liked it too but I think the sequel sounds much more promising. By the way, ignore what this producer is saying. He's not a creative, he's a wallet. Translation: he doesn't know what he's talking about. @Josh
I think it has to do with the fact that people wanted a popcorn movie and got a serious drama. I liked it too but I think the sequel sounds much more promising. By the way, ignore what this producer is saying. He’s not a creative, he’s a wallet. Translation: he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

]]> By: joshmayhood http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299539 joshmayhood Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:34:44 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299539 I've frequented this blog, as well as AICN for about 5 years now. I tend not to read comments or talkbacks, mostly because they get so off topic and/or ridiculous. But lately, reading comments and talkbacks, I have TWO GLARING QUESTIONS about you internet film dudes: 1. Superman Returns...this was a good movie. Why the hate? 2. Off topic, but apparently fans hate IJ and the Last Crusade. This was one of my favorite movies growing up(I was about 9 years old when it was released) and I still love it, to tell the truth. Why the hate for this one? I’ve frequented this blog, as well as AICN for about 5 years now. I tend not to read comments or talkbacks, mostly because they get so off topic and/or ridiculous. But lately, reading comments and talkbacks, I have TWO GLARING QUESTIONS about you internet film dudes:

1. Superman Returns…this was a good movie. Why the hate?

2. Off topic, but apparently fans hate IJ and the Last Crusade. This was one of my favorite movies growing up(I was about 9 years old when it was released) and I still love it, to tell the truth. Why the hate for this one?

]]> By: Seth http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299501 Seth Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:03:53 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/22/superman-sequel-superman-as-an-angry-god/#comment-299501 Red Son is one of the best Superman storys ever...but i still have a spot in my heart for Kingdom Come. I doubt this means anything... And M&Co is right. They need to take this back to square one or just let it go...i love Superman, but these movies just make me sad... Red Son is one of the best Superman storys ever…but i still have a spot in my heart for Kingdom Come. I doubt this means anything…
And M&Co is right. They need to take this back to square one or just let it go…i love Superman, but these movies just make me sad…

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