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After The Golden Compass failed to crack $70 million at the domestic box office, many industry types and American moviegoers pfffft‘d the notion that the other films in Philip Pullman’s His Dark Materials trilogy would ever be made. However, as Variety notes, the first film, which starred Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig, and had a budget of nearly $200 million, is line to be the first film to ever crack $300 million internationally without reaching $100 million domestic. This is an astonishing disconnect, really. Producer Deborah Forte is not only hopeful that The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass will be made, she is adamant…

“This was a success as a family movie in most countries, it’s a very strong family franchise, it won an Academy Award [for Visual Effects]. We have to make the second and the third movie. …”I will make ‘The Subtle Knife’ and ‘The Amber Spyglass,’” she vows. “I believe there are enough people who see what a viable and successful franchise we have.”

The Golden Compass’s failure domestically and New Line’s decision pre-release to sell off the international rights are seen as primary factors in the studio recently being downsized and absorbed by Warner Bros. Forte doesn’t offer an outright opinion on the gross gap, but hints that she was displeased with the marketing in the U.S. She says that per discussions with New Line, Compass’s DVD, to be released stateside on April 28th, “must be marketed as a family film.” Moreover, a script for The Subtle Knife has already been written by Hossein Amini (Killshot, The Four Feathers). If Warner Bros. passes on the sequels, it’s even suggested that Forte might seek an independent route.

While I think the marketing in America focused too much on Kidman and Craig, two stars with little appeal to tweens, The Golden Compass faced a tall order of bad, nearly sensational, press domestically, with many outlets playing up the books atheistic messages. Its release during the holidays was also rather careless. The film came to be seen by the mainstream as an anti-Christian Chronicles of Narnia and thus unsuitable for family viewings. As Variety points out the film did well in Italy were the pope publicly called out the film as “the most anti-Christmas movie possible,” but Italy doesn’t have virulent talk radio and Fox News talking heads.

Discuss: Why did The Golden Compass perform so well worldwide? Are you interested in seeing the sequels?

  • I totally agree that TGC was marketed wrong.. I had no interest in seeing it when it was in the theaters because of the trailers... But when I did see it finally.. ( My wife, Red really wanted to see it) I was amazed... I loved it far more that any of the "Kid's fantasy books" films I've seen. Its far superior to Harry Potter in story and film, and Narnia was just trash to begin with...
    We kinda thought with the Oscar that they might start fast tracking the sequels, Red is gonna be heart broken when I tell her that there might not be a sequel for a long time...

    Think I might even re watch it tonight.
  • Matt
    If you think the Chronicles of Narnia, (especially the books, if you've read them), is trash then all I can say is that you are a total idiot!
  • IG
    HOW did it win an Academy Award... ugh...
  • Angela Lee
    I watched the movie three times. The special effects and action are excellent and technically difficult. That's how they won an academy award.

    I agree the marketing for TGC was poor stateside. They have to figure out how it was advertised overseas and repeat that here.
  • because that Polar bear was fucking awesome.
  • Ali
    I know that a lot of people were upset about the ending, but when I saw it I just took it as "Oh, so they're making a sequel. That's fine."

    I'm kind of excited. I hope they do continue with the series. Golden Compass was well done, I thought.
  • Jimbo Stewart
    Is there anything worse than reading Hunter's posts? Obviously not. Please, put your Trotskyist card on the /Film front desk, resign and get a job at Democracy Now. There are plenty of worthless commies you could impress with your keen insights and dish-water deep movie references.
  • Leave Hunter Alone.
  • renn77
    We all know ILM was robbed for best visual effects, even companies who
    worked on it know it. Blame Micheal Bays for that, people just dont want
    to give that foo' awards. but this movie was all right, the bear fight scene is really great, make a sequel with move bear action!
  • Hunter Stephenson
    @ Jimbo Stewart

    To characteristically reply to your allegations: I'm into Communists about as much as Anna Farris's character in Smiley Face.
  • i hunt stupid people
    @ Jimbo.....you're a moron....go play in traffic......or sleep with yer sister........what? couldn't catch'er? you people and your fear of communism is stupid....what is this the 50s? get yer head outta yer asses and go back to you "comm"unities......yer fucking stoopid!
  • Brenns
    dude seriously 0.0 its not that bad of a comment...chill...
  • I personally really liked the pacing of the movie... like I know some people would say it was too fast, but for me it was really well done. It did not take its time to fool around for no reason (looking at you LOTR trilogy... although it's still the best fantasy movie ever, but watching it sometimes is a chore for 4 hours each!!!)

    and VFX-wise, true... maybe the votes got split between Transformers and Pirates 3 that out of nowhere Compass won it (no disrespect to this movie's VFX.. but getting the nomination was enough for it)
  • Kenny
    The trouble with the sequels, are the anti-Christian messages. I would hate to see them made with the entire messgaes of the books played down as to not offend - but I really don't see that happening. I want the sequels, but they should keep with the themes of the books, and not be changed simply to appease the hordes of narrow-minded Christians.
  • i hunt stupid people
    there is no anti-christian messages.....just not pro-christian.....sorry, but not everybody is a christian....DEAL WITH IT!!! and they don't kill "god", they accidentally kill the "idea" of god.............this country is supposed to support freedom of religion.....you're all fucking hypocrits!
  • AXV
    sorry to burst your bubble, but there is messages about the ideas of the catholic church, he didnt make some of that stuff up. AND there is hordes of narrow minded christians in america today, infact there's one who nearly got her hands on the vice presidency. this is a minororty but these are the facts
  • Alysia
    whoa... we are talkin about a movie here. back off my Sarah!
    and I would just like to add that I am christian and I see absolutely nothing anti christian about this movie. I actually thought it was a very good movie. except I had a really hard time not likeing kidmans character, and marisa Coulter is still my favorite character! I thought the actors did an amazing job and its to bad that they got such bad publicity beacause it rly is a great movie. I really hope there will be a sequel bcuz the ending rly leaves you waiting to see how they are gonna do the next one.
  • lyssophobic -.-
    #1) THIS IS A BOOK/MOVIE MEANT FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES,,, I'm catholic tyvm, and I find nothing wrong with reading an interesting book even though it may have subliminal messaging. If you can't get past the fact not everyone is the same in what they think, then that's your problem! Don't ruin it for the rest of us!! THIS IS AMERICA, if you don't like it, MOVE. of course you don't have to though, because it's a FREE country!!
    #2) Sorry Alysia, but the ending kinda disappointed me compared to the real ending in the book. Basically, they gave it a happy, hopeful ending when really it ends like... well like there's somn' more in life then happy unicorns and pretty butterflies *gag*....
  • David
    the books showed nothing anti-god in them. they just said the authority was not the tru start of the universe(or a tru god) and it was really an angel. the didnt say there was no god in the book. pullman just showed that the "authority" Lord asrial was fighting was a farce.
  • Brenns
    i completly agre with "i hunt stupid people". they didnt even mention god in the movie they just made up a highly entertaining little fantasy to please viewers! im wiccan thank you very much (which means i believe that there is no such thing as"the invisible man in the sky"!!)! not everyone is a know it all christian like some of you people...your all hypocrytes!!!
  • Mark
    First of all the movie is not as good as it could be considering the source material, but it was still very enjoyable and I'm really glad that they'll make the whole trilogy.

    I'm from Europe so I won't be able to understand this stupid debate about so-called anti-religious content. First of all the atheistic message is nearly completely absent in the movie, although it's a very strong topic in the books. In any case there was absolutely no public debate around here.

    But I dont't believe that this smear campaign by right-wing bigots hurt the movie. Those idiots started the same smear campaign against Harry Potter without any significant effect? And normally every PR is good PR.

    Maybe this astonishing gap in box office success is due to the different marketing campaigns you mentioned in your post. Most people I met here perceived the movie as something like "Lord of the Rings" or "Harry Potter" and both franchises are wildly popular.

    @Jimbo Stewart: Seriously, what is wrong with you? Please go away.
  • i hunt stupid people
    i totally agree! perhaps i should move to a different country!
  • The books are definitely more popular internationally than they are in the US. That is probably the major reason why the film did so poorly. I think WB would consider adapting the other two books so long as they held onto the international distribution rights so that they could see a profit off of them.
  • Rob
    I've recently finished reading the books of His Dark Materials and I can truly say that if the other two films are just half as good as the books, the trilogy of pictures will be a success.
    I agree TGC was a good movie, but it was shortened in comarison with the book, and maybe it is a very awfull movie in comparison with it. But on its own its a good movie.
    I would absolutely love to see the other two books converted into movies, even tho i duno how will they do that 'cause the subtle Knife and the Amber Spyglass, as for me, will be very dificult to adapt to movies. Specially the Amber Spyglass.
    Let's pray they wont bastardize the religious critic and such from the movies, cause its a very important topic in the books.
  • Jay Raskin
    I think the Christian boycott was entirely the reason for the poor box office results in the United States. I know that students in my daughter's junior high school classes told her that the film was "evil" and "against God" and not to see it. She did not want to see it when it first came out. It was only when it was playing at a $2 theater a month later that I finally convinced her to see it (we had seen every other PG/PG13 around). She naturally loved it and dragged her friends to it to see it again the following week.

    The movie will end up being the 9th biggest grossing film of 2007 and it will be the biggest grossing film in New Line's 40 year history with the exception of the "Rings" trilogy. It has already beaten other hit New Line films like "Rush Hour" and "Austin Powers" series.

    I am looking forward to the buying the DVD and seeing the sequels.
  • Schu
    I saw it twice in theatres, I would definitely see the sequels. To not make the sequels would be lame anyway considering the way the first ended. Also, there are worse films out there getting sequels...
  • orange cinema
    i thought the flop was funny because the author was such a prick.
  • james chan
    I love this picture. It's fast paced, great CGI and makes for a fun night out with the family. Hopefully the sequels will get made. Will see them if they're out.
  • The Addict
    I thought the movie flopped because it was just plain crap. A visual rip off of the Fellowship of the Rings, right down to the Hobbit suckfest "there will be a sequel" ending.
  • Sandra
    will I see the sequels? No. Other than the effects, I didn't care for the movie at all. It was fast paced alright. So fast paced you didn't know what was going on & didn't care. If they cut the religious aspects out of the first, how can they possibly make the sequels, where the religious tone is greater? This is one serious of books that should have stayed on the shelves.
  • Mark
    @orange cinema: "i thought the flop was funny because the author was such a prick."

    I saw several interviews with Philip Pullman and I really liked his replies and his philosophical view on the world. Also his books are amongst the most intelligent fantasy books with the strong message to be yourself and think for yourself. Can you please explain your statement?
  • i hunt stupid people
    no....he couldn't 'cuz he's a moron......who cares if Pullman is a prick.....he's written a very could series.....that's all that matters! David Bowie is a real prick, but it doesn't stop the fact that he's a brilliant musician!
  • Izzy
    @ Jimbo, if hunter is a commie, then you are a fascist. i.e. Hitler, Bush Jr., etc. Why don't you goose-step around and pretend you have the brain capacity to be one of your idols, the TSA (aka Brown Shirts).

    Stupid shit probably believes the universe was made in 7 days.
  • i hunt stupid people
    hahahahaahhaaaaaaaaaa.....that's cool!
  • orange cinema
    mark,yer right, I totally shouldve put the quote I'm refering to, I'll find it & post it.
  • Happy_Evil_Dude
    The Golden Compass was a good movie, a great adaptation, and I'd be really glad if the sequels got made. And that way, maybe the 1st one can be released in an extended version, with the full ending wich was filmed, but cut out (as evidenced by the trailers and the video game)
  • Who cares if its Anti-Christian? Its a movie, if a movie can change your faith that easily then you really don't have faith to begin with..
    I also love the fact that its perfectly acceptable to make a movie with strong Christian overtones (Narnia) yet its a horrible and unaccepted idea to make a movie that has anti-Christian overtones..
    They're movies, not sermons at the f*cking Mount.
  • i hunt stupid people
    YES!!!!
  • Caedus
    I was actually shocked by TGC winning the VFX Oscar, over Transformers and Pirates, considering that those two were big winners of the Visual Effects Society Awards... The VES is an organization comprised of visual effects professionals, so it's peers choosing among their peers who among them are the best of the year.

    The effects for TGC were not bad; however, i felt that this has been done before in films like Narnia, and that the technical aspects of modelling, rigging and animating robots transforming into vehicles and compositing it seamlessly is much more difficult.

    It'd be cool to see the other books adapted into movies, but not really that excited about it.

    As for the anti-Christian undertones, I don't really see the film saying things that are against God, but more against the oppression coming from an institution, whether it be from a religion, government, or any other higher authority.

    just my opinion, though.
  • i hunt stupid people
    about the Transformers.....ummm....two gigantic robots violently fighting over a tiny little human, falling down and shattering buildings, story after story, and shia comes out with a few scratches.......ummm.....if my friend can die getting wrapped around a dumptruck, how is that little tween gonna come outta that with only a few scratches and still have hold of the allspark??????? yer stupid!
  • Caedus
    I'm talking about the merits of the visual effects of Transformers, not the story itself.
  • david
    i agree on your opinion
  • pardonme
    I was so glad to read that there is a better chance for the sequels to get made now that Warner Brothers took over! I love the books and can't wait to see the second and third part on screen. It would be stupid not to make the sequels since there is already a script for TSK, and some important scenes are already in the can (the ones that were moved from the end of the first to the start of the second movie). I just hope they'll get their act together before Dakota Blue Richards is as tall as Nicole Kidman.
  • Ironbob
    I think Christians need to grow up. The world has been waiting for thousands of years and they still haven't made it past toddler stage.

    God doesn't need us to stick up for him and if he did I'd hope he'd find better targets then a children's movie that sparks imagination. It's imagination that Christians are scared to death of because it's one thing that the rank and file politicos in the Catholic Church and other staunchy guarded hierarchial religions have no control over.

    I mean think about what these people are saying..."God is so great but he's actually threatened with extinction because of a kids movie featuring a young teen-ager. Give me a break.
  • Scott
    Oh I hope so. I really love Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy. I also live in North America and went to see The Golden Compass twice. I really hope the trilogy will continue on the big screen. With Dakato Blue Richards back as Lyra, she was great for the part. Also I hope someone cool plays Will.
    So my vote goes for yes they should do the sequels.
  • I' ve read all three books and loved them. And I like TheGolden Compass, I've watched it twice. Well, I'll want to see sequels, and I hope that Warner Bross will take over filming them. They're making good job with Harry Potter movies.
  • rob
    I ant them make the sequels as i want see what religin has to say about lord asriel killing god lol and I want to see Lee and Rodger die im sad that way :D
  • i hunt stupid people
    they can't even get past that the killing of "god" was an accident...not on purpose.....they just don't want people thinking for themselves....
  • rob
    also they hav to hav the end of the first book at the start of the film aswell they didnt end it well at all.
  • Brandon
    The enjoyed the movie I saw it 3 times in the Theater. I have been a fan of the trilogy for awhile and have waited this whole time to see the trilogy in movie format. They owe it to the fans. I was upset at all of the crap the Christian community came up with. No imaginations, sad really. But I hope they make the subtle knife and Amber spyglass. I will be dissapointed with New Line if they don't
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