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	<title>Comments on: Did Michel Gondry steal the idea for Be Kind Rewind from Amanda Bynes?</title>
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		<title>By: gondry cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>gondry cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gondry's video for Chemical Brothers 'Let Forever Be' directly rips off a number of Busby Berkeley dance sequences. He's been 'borrowing heavily' since the early days of his career and doesn't have the grace to admit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gondry&#8217;s video for Chemical Brothers &#8216;Let Forever Be&#8217; directly rips off a number of Busby Berkeley dance sequences. He&#8217;s been &#8216;borrowing heavily&#8217; since the early days of his career and doesn&#8217;t have the grace to admit it.</p>
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		<title>By: J-J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J-J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares if it's a rip-off if it's better. Gondry is great and Jack Black and Mos Def are funny. Amanda Bynes is not, has never been, and will never be funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares if it&#8217;s a rip-off if it&#8217;s better. Gondry is great and Jack Black and Mos Def are funny. Amanda Bynes is not, has never been, and will never be funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting artistic issue.  On one level, Gondry's take is certainly going to be deeper (and probably better), and ultimately it doesn't matter, as long as the product is good.  Good art stands, or falls, on its own.

On the other hand, what protection do the creators of the Amanda show have?  The idea that video store employees make their own movies isn't merely incidental to Gondry's movie--it's the whole concept of the movie.  It's a very specific concept, and someone else had it, or something very close to it, first.  The idea that Gondry's take is more thoughtful, which it almost certainly is, doesn't address the issue of whether it's fair to use the idea, whether you were aware that someone else had done it or not.  (The Blair Witch Project--another concept-driven movie--borrowed its premise from another, apparently inferior, movie, and faced a similar minor comntroversy.)

And, obviously, this is a a grey area.  No idea is completely original.  (Monty Python, for example, had a sketch about a bookstore that sold knock-off versions of famous books (like David Coppperfield, with three p's.))  But I also don't think it's fair to entirely dismiss the idea of intellectual property either.  The Amanda show had an idea, and very publicly put it out there, and then somone made a movie using a very similar idea.  I don't know who's right, but it IS a fair question to address.  Obviously, similar themes and ideas recur all the time in books and movies, yet at the same time, it's important to be respectful of, and give a wide berth to, other people's ideas.  Again, it's a tricky issue, but  the creators of the Amanda Show, certainly have reason to be a little concerned.

As an aside, a lot of people are criticizing the Amanda Show, which I had never seen, or even heard of, except for this clip, but the scene in question seems like a pretty decent idea for a sketch for a children's show.  It's not high-art, but it's not a bad concept, and it's kind of silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting artistic issue.  On one level, Gondry&#8217;s take is certainly going to be deeper (and probably better), and ultimately it doesn&#8217;t matter, as long as the product is good.  Good art stands, or falls, on its own.</p>
<p>On the other hand, what protection do the creators of the Amanda show have?  The idea that video store employees make their own movies isn&#8217;t merely incidental to Gondry&#8217;s movie&#8211;it&#8217;s the whole concept of the movie.  It&#8217;s a very specific concept, and someone else had it, or something very close to it, first.  The idea that Gondry&#8217;s take is more thoughtful, which it almost certainly is, doesn&#8217;t address the issue of whether it&#8217;s fair to use the idea, whether you were aware that someone else had done it or not.  (The Blair Witch Project&#8211;another concept-driven movie&#8211;borrowed its premise from another, apparently inferior, movie, and faced a similar minor comntroversy.)</p>
<p>And, obviously, this is a a grey area.  No idea is completely original.  (Monty Python, for example, had a sketch about a bookstore that sold knock-off versions of famous books (like David Coppperfield, with three p&#8217;s.))  But I also don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to entirely dismiss the idea of intellectual property either.  The Amanda show had an idea, and very publicly put it out there, and then somone made a movie using a very similar idea.  I don&#8217;t know who&#8217;s right, but it IS a fair question to address.  Obviously, similar themes and ideas recur all the time in books and movies, yet at the same time, it&#8217;s important to be respectful of, and give a wide berth to, other people&#8217;s ideas.  Again, it&#8217;s a tricky issue, but  the creators of the Amanda Show, certainly have reason to be a little concerned.</p>
<p>As an aside, a lot of people are criticizing the Amanda Show, which I had never seen, or even heard of, except for this clip, but the scene in question seems like a pretty decent idea for a sketch for a children&#8217;s show.  It&#8217;s not high-art, but it&#8217;s not a bad concept, and it&#8217;s kind of silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/20/did-michel-gondry-steal-the-idea-for-be-kind-rewind-from-amanda-bynes/#comment-217783</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to love The Amanda Show when i was like 8, but now im starting to wonder what i was on...

Anyway, i seriously doubt that the Amanda Show was the first with this idea, i'd be willing to bet a hundred bucks on that, and i dont even have that much money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to love The Amanda Show when i was like 8, but now im starting to wonder what i was on&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, i seriously doubt that the Amanda Show was the first with this idea, i&#8217;d be willing to bet a hundred bucks on that, and i dont even have that much money</p>
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		<title>By: timmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>timmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah there was also a fairly oddparents episode with a similar plotline. so what, man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah there was also a fairly oddparents episode with a similar plotline. so what, man?</p>
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		<title>By: MattLOLZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattLOLZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, at this arguement.
I say 'be kind rewind today.
I've also watched clips of the amanda show.
It might have been a idea out there, for years, but gondrey has, gave me many perspectives on certain subjects.
class acting from Danny Glover, Mos Def and Jack Black makes this one of my favorite movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, at this arguement.<br />
I say &#8216;be kind rewind today.<br />
I&#8217;ve also watched clips of the amanda show.<br />
It might have been a idea out there, for years, but gondrey has, gave me many perspectives on certain subjects.<br />
class acting from Danny Glover, Mos Def and Jack Black makes this one of my favorite movies.</p>
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		<title>By: MuchButter</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/20/did-michel-gondry-steal-the-idea-for-be-kind-rewind-from-amanda-bynes/#comment-215337</link>
		<dc:creator>MuchButter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be Kind Rewind was butter, much butter.  So maybe they Sweded Amanda?  There is no copyright infringement here based on what I've seen.  And Be Kind Rewind is laugh out loud funny and artistic to boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be Kind Rewind was butter, much butter.  So maybe they Sweded Amanda?  There is no copyright infringement here based on what I&#8217;ve seen.  And Be Kind Rewind is laugh out loud funny and artistic to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: nakdlove</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/20/did-michel-gondry-steal-the-idea-for-be-kind-rewind-from-amanda-bynes/#comment-214974</link>
		<dc:creator>nakdlove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 05:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that was really stupid.  really stupid.  not worth being referenced wikipedia stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that was really stupid.  really stupid.  not worth being referenced wikipedia stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Acusan a Michel Gondry de plagiar &#8220;The Amanda Show&#8221; en &#8220;Be Kind Rewind&#8221; Â» Cinencuentro - Todo el cine del PerÃº</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Acusan a Michel Gondry de plagiar &#8220;The Amanda Show&#8221; en &#8220;Be Kind Rewind&#8221; Â» Cinencuentro - Todo el cine del PerÃº</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (VÃ­a /film) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/20/did-michel-gondry-steal-the-idea-for-be-kind-rewind-from-amanda-bynes/#comment-214398</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God The Amanda Show was one of the worst shows on Nickelodeon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God The Amanda Show was one of the worst shows on Nickelodeon.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed kyle.</description>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@FD

I seriously doubt you've seen anything of Gondry's if you feel this way.

Watch the film and tell me then that it's a rip off.

From the mouth of Gondry:
"I had this concept for years, this kid who would remake these movies. It sort of fuses this idea I've had for years, believing that people could create their own entertainment and they would enjoy it better, because they are in it. And the film would not have to be technically achieved, because it's like watching a home movie. You don't watch it for the technique, you watch because it's reminiscing on good moments you spent with your friends. It reflects you. It belongs to you. So I was thinking people could, instead of spending their money to go and see a blockbuster, make their own movies. Collect the money and make a new one every week. I thought it would be nice to create a world that makes this construct possible."

I highly doubt Amanda or any of her writers had this concept in mind... their's is about a foreign family making remakes just to cheat people out of their money.  Jack Black and Mos Def do it to save the store and later for the love and renown they've received from it.

http://www.avclub.com/content/interview/michel_gondry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@FD</p>
<p>I seriously doubt you&#8217;ve seen anything of Gondry&#8217;s if you feel this way.</p>
<p>Watch the film and tell me then that it&#8217;s a rip off.</p>
<p>From the mouth of Gondry:<br />
&#8220;I had this concept for years, this kid who would remake these movies. It sort of fuses this idea I&#8217;ve had for years, believing that people could create their own entertainment and they would enjoy it better, because they are in it. And the film would not have to be technically achieved, because it&#8217;s like watching a home movie. You don&#8217;t watch it for the technique, you watch because it&#8217;s reminiscing on good moments you spent with your friends. It reflects you. It belongs to you. So I was thinking people could, instead of spending their money to go and see a blockbuster, make their own movies. Collect the money and make a new one every week. I thought it would be nice to create a world that makes this construct possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>I highly doubt Amanda or any of her writers had this concept in mind&#8230; their&#8217;s is about a foreign family making remakes just to cheat people out of their money.  Jack Black and Mos Def do it to save the store and later for the love and renown they&#8217;ve received from it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.avclub.com/content/interview/michel_gondry" rel="nofollow">http://www.avclub.com/content/interview/michel_gondry</a></p>
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		<title>By: FD</title>
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		<dc:creator>FD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lines are directly from the skit show.  Even the situation of someone returning the movie and saying this isn't the movie.  "This is much better."

Instead of being an original movie, it's a stolen and lame idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lines are directly from the skit show.  Even the situation of someone returning the movie and saying this isn&#8217;t the movie.  &#8220;This is much better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Instead of being an original movie, it&#8217;s a stolen and lame idea.</p>
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		<title>By: McLovin</title>
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		<dc:creator>McLovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lies dude i just made bread yesterday A.J. you stole it from me before i made it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lies dude i just made bread yesterday A.J. you stole it from me before i made it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wterio</title>
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		<dc:creator>wterio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing is original anymore! its be kind rewind!</description>
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		<title>By: A. J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is little known but I did in fact invent bread.</description>
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		<title>By: Nick O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zac Shipley

No. but are you trying to say that Nickelodeon's "Blockblister" skit is better than Be Kind Rewind? I certainly hope not. I can't believe there's even a debate about this.</description>
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<p>No. but are you trying to say that Nickelodeon&#8217;s &#8220;Blockblister&#8221; skit is better than Be Kind Rewind? I certainly hope not. I can&#8217;t believe there&#8217;s even a debate about this.</p>
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		<title>By: trusoundz</title>
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		<dc:creator>trusoundz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>be kind rewind will be much better than the amanda show,or at least i hope so....btw,is that supposed to be back to the future in the pic in the article?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>be kind rewind will be much better than the amanda show,or at least i hope so&#8230;.btw,is that supposed to be back to the future in the pic in the article?</p>
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		<title>By: Butaca 13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Butaca 13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yo no creo que Michel Gondry se haya robado la idea del show de Amanda, pero viendo el video&#8230; Â¿Que piensan nuestros dos lectores? VÃ­a: /Film [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth be told, "Be Kind Rewind" is a rip-off of "Krippendorf's Tribe."</description>
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