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	<title>Comments on: RANT: The Cloverfield Monster is NOT A Spoiler</title>
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		<title>By: TMK</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-211677</link>
		<dc:creator>TMK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this fascinating response to the Cloverfield toy release. It is interesting that the debate on where to draw the line on "what is a spoiler" could boil over when talking about an overpriced action figure, but the issue has been raised nonetheless. I agree with you in that seeing the Cloverfield monster is not a spoiler for all of the reasons you mention. I differ, however, in my assessment over who is at fault for the concept of the spoiler to have gotten alarmingly out of hand. 

True, the studios have played a major role in this hysteria, but I feel it has had less to do with being overly cautious about production details, and more to do with dumbed-down ad campaigns that choose to focus on one, easily spoiled detail or character rather than hype the film as a whole. At first glance, Cloverfield might seem to be a film of this type, considering that the look of the creature was shrouded in mystery prior to the film's release. It wasn't just the monster, however--it was the WHOLE movie that was mysterious. For this reason, a glimpse, heck, a whole gander at the beast would not be enough to spoil the film. I will agree that seeing the creature on the screen for the first time is an exciting moment and one that I do not wish to be taken away from potential viewers, but I feel that "spoiling" the monster's look beforehand is much more in the viewer's power than he or she believes. As far as I know, Paramount has been relatively delicate in showing pictures of the monster, and I do not see pictures of this new action figure splashed on billboards yet. Audiences tend to spoil movies for themselves, and I don't think a toy, released well after the film it is based on, should  be made to take the blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this fascinating response to the Cloverfield toy release. It is interesting that the debate on where to draw the line on &#8220;what is a spoiler&#8221; could boil over when talking about an overpriced action figure, but the issue has been raised nonetheless. I agree with you in that seeing the Cloverfield monster is not a spoiler for all of the reasons you mention. I differ, however, in my assessment over who is at fault for the concept of the spoiler to have gotten alarmingly out of hand. </p>
<p>True, the studios have played a major role in this hysteria, but I feel it has had less to do with being overly cautious about production details, and more to do with dumbed-down ad campaigns that choose to focus on one, easily spoiled detail or character rather than hype the film as a whole. At first glance, Cloverfield might seem to be a film of this type, considering that the look of the creature was shrouded in mystery prior to the film&#8217;s release. It wasn&#8217;t just the monster, however&#8211;it was the WHOLE movie that was mysterious. For this reason, a glimpse, heck, a whole gander at the beast would not be enough to spoil the film. I will agree that seeing the creature on the screen for the first time is an exciting moment and one that I do not wish to be taken away from potential viewers, but I feel that &#8220;spoiling&#8221; the monster&#8217;s look beforehand is much more in the viewer&#8217;s power than he or she believes. As far as I know, Paramount has been relatively delicate in showing pictures of the monster, and I do not see pictures of this new action figure splashed on billboards yet. Audiences tend to spoil movies for themselves, and I don&#8217;t think a toy, released well after the film it is based on, should  be made to take the blame.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-211667</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: Jon

like I previously said, i come here for movie news (spoilers or not), not  book spoilers. just because a movie will be made for it, doesn't mean all bets are off. in all seriousness, people weren't posting the ending of fight club in of blogs before the movie came out just because the novel had been released beforehand.

i don't really give a shit about reading the HP books, i'd rather see the films. that's a fair comment as I see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Jon</p>
<p>like I previously said, i come here for movie news (spoilers or not), not  book spoilers. just because a movie will be made for it, doesn&#8217;t mean all bets are off. in all seriousness, people weren&#8217;t posting the ending of fight club in of blogs before the movie came out just because the novel had been released beforehand.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t really give a shit about reading the HP books, i&#8217;d rather see the films. that&#8217;s a fair comment as I see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-210621</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it isn't in the first 10 minutes it is a major spoiler.  

Many trailers are spoilers and for that matter most marketing comes in the form of spoilers. Marketing people don't care about wrecking a movie so long as they get you to see it. So using the "if it is in the marketing its not a spoiler" argument is not valid. Sometimes it takes a spoiler to get interested in a movie. Sometimes they have you at hello and you don't want to know anything more until you're sitting in the seat.

A spoiler is anything that limits the range of possibilities of what someone can expect from a film. Think mystery box. The more you tell me about what is in the box. The less I will be surprised about when I open it. 

If someone gets you a present and tells you what it was before you opened it. True it doesn't wreck the present. The present still does what the present does. But they wrecked the surprise. And some would say that the surprise is a vital component of the whole present experience. A lot of people feel the same way about movies. 

I'm sure it wouldn't hurt your site stats to put more things after the break. It would help a lot of people maintain the mystery box as well. Win/Win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it isn&#8217;t in the first 10 minutes it is a major spoiler.  </p>
<p>Many trailers are spoilers and for that matter most marketing comes in the form of spoilers. Marketing people don&#8217;t care about wrecking a movie so long as they get you to see it. So using the &#8220;if it is in the marketing its not a spoiler&#8221; argument is not valid. Sometimes it takes a spoiler to get interested in a movie. Sometimes they have you at hello and you don&#8217;t want to know anything more until you&#8217;re sitting in the seat.</p>
<p>A spoiler is anything that limits the range of possibilities of what someone can expect from a film. Think mystery box. The more you tell me about what is in the box. The less I will be surprised about when I open it. </p>
<p>If someone gets you a present and tells you what it was before you opened it. True it doesn&#8217;t wreck the present. The present still does what the present does. But they wrecked the surprise. And some would say that the surprise is a vital component of the whole present experience. A lot of people feel the same way about movies. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it wouldn&#8217;t hurt your site stats to put more things after the break. It would help a lot of people maintain the mystery box as well. Win/Win.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Tayler</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-210239</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Tayler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem here is that the trailer never told us there WAS a "monster" -- maybe it was alien spaceships, or a giant mecha, or who-knows-what. Those wanting to go into the movie without knowing what the Big Bad Thing is were right to feel a bit cheated.

But in your defense, people who don't want inside scoops like that shouldn't be reading a site like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem here is that the trailer never told us there WAS a &#8220;monster&#8221; &#8212; maybe it was alien spaceships, or a giant mecha, or who-knows-what. Those wanting to go into the movie without knowing what the Big Bad Thing is were right to feel a bit cheated.</p>
<p>But in your defense, people who don&#8217;t want inside scoops like that shouldn&#8217;t be reading a site like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-210216</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"To be fair, anyone who clicked the link, â€œCloverfield Monster Toy Revealed,â€ and didnâ€™t expect pictures of the Cloverfield monster probably deserved to have it spoiled for them."

You didn't have to click into the article it was just there on the frontpage. This is my point all the submitter had to do was place it in a main article OFF the front page. Simple as.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To be fair, anyone who clicked the link, â€œCloverfield Monster Toy Revealed,â€ and didnâ€™t expect pictures of the Cloverfield monster probably deserved to have it spoiled for them.&#8221;</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t have to click into the article it was just there on the frontpage. This is my point all the submitter had to do was place it in a main article OFF the front page. Simple as.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-210173</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I remember when I was sitting in the theater to watch Titanic and someone behind me said "the boat sinks."  I was so mad I stormed out and still haven't seen it.  Thanks for ruining the movie for me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I remember when I was sitting in the theater to watch Titanic and someone behind me said &#8220;the boat sinks.&#8221;  I was so mad I stormed out and still haven&#8217;t seen it.  Thanks for ruining the movie for me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NuVanDibe</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-209280</link>
		<dc:creator>NuVanDibe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tsk, the major point about Cloverfield is that they never showed us what the monster looked like until AFTER the movie came out. The most anticipated answer among everyone waiting for the movie was what the monster looked like (and btw the Hasbro toy is very different from the monster in the movie). Being able to watch the movie and see the monster for the first time on the big screen with all its theatrical scariness is a HUGE part of the mood for the entire movie. By posting pictures of the Cloverfield monster, you deprive people of that mood.

To be fair, anyone who clicked the link, "Cloverfield Monster Toy Revealed," and didn't expect pictures of the Cloverfield monster probably deserved to have it spoiled for them. Also it's already feb 18th and by now lots of people have seen it and know what it looks like.

Still, each movie has its own unique rules for what "spoils" it. Seeing Godzilla before a Godzilla movie is not a spoiler. However, because the movie Cloverfield was what it was, Seeing the Cloverfield monster before seeing Cloverfield does spoil it for some people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tsk, the major point about Cloverfield is that they never showed us what the monster looked like until AFTER the movie came out. The most anticipated answer among everyone waiting for the movie was what the monster looked like (and btw the Hasbro toy is very different from the monster in the movie). Being able to watch the movie and see the monster for the first time on the big screen with all its theatrical scariness is a HUGE part of the mood for the entire movie. By posting pictures of the Cloverfield monster, you deprive people of that mood.</p>
<p>To be fair, anyone who clicked the link, &#8220;Cloverfield Monster Toy Revealed,&#8221; and didn&#8217;t expect pictures of the Cloverfield monster probably deserved to have it spoiled for them. Also it&#8217;s already feb 18th and by now lots of people have seen it and know what it looks like.</p>
<p>Still, each movie has its own unique rules for what &#8220;spoils&#8221; it. Seeing Godzilla before a Godzilla movie is not a spoiler. However, because the movie Cloverfield was what it was, Seeing the Cloverfield monster before seeing Cloverfield does spoil it for some people.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-208979</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, I live in the United States. I just told you it opened here a couple days ago because of a financial disagreement between whoever and Marcus Theatres.

Why is it a "too bad" situation? No one is making you discuss the monster publicly. There are plenty of outlets to discuss it without ruining it for people - regardless of where they're from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, I live in the United States. I just told you it opened here a couple days ago because of a financial disagreement between whoever and Marcus Theatres.</p>
<p>Why is it a &#8220;too bad&#8221; situation? No one is making you discuss the monster publicly. There are plenty of outlets to discuss it without ruining it for people - regardless of where they&#8217;re from.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-208973</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While not technically a spoiler it does take some of the sheen off seeing the movie for the first time and seeing the monster for the first time. I was one of the people who complained in the original article because I followed the whole Cloverfield hype for quite some time and one of the main questions that people wanted to experience was what the monster looked like. It was guarded with upmost secrecy until it was released in cinemas and this is what generated some of the buzz even here at /Film there was a LOT of talk about what it would look like. 

I am disappointed now after seeing it right there on a blog I visit every day even for the sake of those who haven't seen the movie like myself it would've been simple common courtesy just to place the photos on the main body of the article and not on the front-page. Simple as that. Imagine how pissed off you would be if you inadvertently saw images of the monster before the movie came out?

As for when is it acceptable to talk about spoilers? Its not a matter of length of time its about if the person/people you're talking to have seen the movie. Fullstop. You ask. You keep it quiet if they haven't seen it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While not technically a spoiler it does take some of the sheen off seeing the movie for the first time and seeing the monster for the first time. I was one of the people who complained in the original article because I followed the whole Cloverfield hype for quite some time and one of the main questions that people wanted to experience was what the monster looked like. It was guarded with upmost secrecy until it was released in cinemas and this is what generated some of the buzz even here at /Film there was a LOT of talk about what it would look like. </p>
<p>I am disappointed now after seeing it right there on a blog I visit every day even for the sake of those who haven&#8217;t seen the movie like myself it would&#8217;ve been simple common courtesy just to place the photos on the main body of the article and not on the front-page. Simple as that. Imagine how pissed off you would be if you inadvertently saw images of the monster before the movie came out?</p>
<p>As for when is it acceptable to talk about spoilers? Its not a matter of length of time its about if the person/people you&#8217;re talking to have seen the movie. Fullstop. You ask. You keep it quiet if they haven&#8217;t seen it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-208938</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mostly agree with you Peter, at this point, the monster is NOT a spoiler. The movie was released a month ago in the US, and has opened in many other countries as well. If you haven't see the monster by now, too bad - the whole world can't hold it's breath until Japan gets a chance to see it.

However, before the movie was released in the US, what the monster looked like WAS a spoiler. "What Is It?" is what the Average Joe wanted to know. The mystery was never about the story, it was about the monster. 

But I think there is an easy way to determine what should be considered spoiler or not - the source. If you are getting "studio released" footage of the monster, like the "monster revealed" footage on Yahoo, or in this case Hasbro Toy photos, there is no problem. Bootleg photos, leaked scripts, etc, are an other story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mostly agree with you Peter, at this point, the monster is NOT a spoiler. The movie was released a month ago in the US, and has opened in many other countries as well. If you haven&#8217;t see the monster by now, too bad - the whole world can&#8217;t hold it&#8217;s breath until Japan gets a chance to see it.</p>
<p>However, before the movie was released in the US, what the monster looked like WAS a spoiler. &#8220;What Is It?&#8221; is what the Average Joe wanted to know. The mystery was never about the story, it was about the monster. </p>
<p>But I think there is an easy way to determine what should be considered spoiler or not - the source. If you are getting &#8220;studio released&#8221; footage of the monster, like the &#8220;monster revealed&#8221; footage on Yahoo, or in this case Hasbro Toy photos, there is no problem. Bootleg photos, leaked scripts, etc, are an other story.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-208906</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to brian:

Jesus dude, that book came out years ago now.  The statue of limitations on that one expired a long time ago.  Read a book!  They're all written, so there's no reason to wait any more.

And don't read the other comments in this thread if you don't want the ending of the 7th ruined for you.  Someone mentioned it.

If you don't want anything spoiled, don't spend any time on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to brian:</p>
<p>Jesus dude, that book came out years ago now.  The statue of limitations on that one expired a long time ago.  Read a book!  They&#8217;re all written, so there&#8217;s no reason to wait any more.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t read the other comments in this thread if you don&#8217;t want the ending of the 7th ruined for you.  Someone mentioned it.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t want anything spoiled, don&#8217;t spend any time on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-208405</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Showing the monster is somewhat of a spoiler I think. Just because it was so hidden in its marketing and was basically the first question everyone asked me after seeing the movie.

But what is perhaps the worst is the fucking picture posted on the top of this thread. The first thing that jumped out at me was "Snape Kills Dumbledore". What is that shit? I dont want to know that.

The others aren't so bad because they come from films that have already come out. And yeah, it's written in the book but this isn't a book blog. I dunno, I'm just really pissed about that cos I've been avoiding all HP spoilers. And just because I choose to see the films instead of reading the books doesn't mean shit like that can be spoiled. Unless of course that spoiler was a  joke. But seeing as none of the other spoilers on the graphic aren't, then I'm not holding my breath.

Really man, wtf?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Showing the monster is somewhat of a spoiler I think. Just because it was so hidden in its marketing and was basically the first question everyone asked me after seeing the movie.</p>
<p>But what is perhaps the worst is the fucking picture posted on the top of this thread. The first thing that jumped out at me was &#8220;Snape Kills Dumbledore&#8221;. What is that shit? I dont want to know that.</p>
<p>The others aren&#8217;t so bad because they come from films that have already come out. And yeah, it&#8217;s written in the book but this isn&#8217;t a book blog. I dunno, I&#8217;m just really pissed about that cos I&#8217;ve been avoiding all HP spoilers. And just because I choose to see the films instead of reading the books doesn&#8217;t mean shit like that can be spoiled. Unless of course that spoiler was a  joke. But seeing as none of the other spoilers on the graphic aren&#8217;t, then I&#8217;m not holding my breath.</p>
<p>Really man, wtf?</p>
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		<title>By: BlueNight</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-208182</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueNight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knowing the twist ending didn't make Sixth Sense any less of a good movie for me... but it did make me feel like I was seeing the movie for the second time, the first time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowing the twist ending didn&#8217;t make Sixth Sense any less of a good movie for me&#8230; but it did make me feel like I was seeing the movie for the second time, the first time.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueNight</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-208175</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueNight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The Sixth Sense" is a really good example.  I was waiting for it to come to the dollar theater.  THE DAY BEFORE I WENT, the day before I had been planning to see it all week, was the day someone made a comment.

The amazing thing is, I knew, instinctively, that was the big twist.  The fact that it was the big twist wasn't mentioned in the conversation I overheard, but I knew it was anyway.

Amazingly, the first "monster spoiler" was the New Godzilla; I remember there were NO toys on the shelves, and NO pictures in the ads.  However, THE DAY BEFORE THE PREMIERE, for which I had a pre-paid ticket a week in advance, I saw, of all things, the MAD Magazine parody.

I couldn't stand that chin.  Until I saw the movie, which made it all much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Sixth Sense&#8221; is a really good example.  I was waiting for it to come to the dollar theater.  THE DAY BEFORE I WENT, the day before I had been planning to see it all week, was the day someone made a comment.</p>
<p>The amazing thing is, I knew, instinctively, that was the big twist.  The fact that it was the big twist wasn&#8217;t mentioned in the conversation I overheard, but I knew it was anyway.</p>
<p>Amazingly, the first &#8220;monster spoiler&#8221; was the New Godzilla; I remember there were NO toys on the shelves, and NO pictures in the ads.  However, THE DAY BEFORE THE PREMIERE, for which I had a pre-paid ticket a week in advance, I saw, of all things, the MAD Magazine parody.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t stand that chin.  Until I saw the movie, which made it all much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-208019</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what you're trying to say. In the true definition of the word "spoiler", showing a character in a movie doesn't tell you anything plot-wise. 

BUT, thinking of what it means to spoil something for someone else, you did by showing a monster that - as you said - was kept secret from the public. Anyone who intends to see "Cloverfield" - myself included - was shown something that they wanted to see for the first time in the movie itself, and not from an internet picture. 

And telling me I should have seen the movie already if I'm that emotionally invested in it is not a valid point. Believe it or not, it just started showing here on Friday because our local theaters (Marcus-owned) did not come to a financial agreement to show it when it opened nationwide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you&#8217;re trying to say. In the true definition of the word &#8220;spoiler&#8221;, showing a character in a movie doesn&#8217;t tell you anything plot-wise. </p>
<p>BUT, thinking of what it means to spoil something for someone else, you did by showing a monster that - as you said - was kept secret from the public. Anyone who intends to see &#8220;Cloverfield&#8221; - myself included - was shown something that they wanted to see for the first time in the movie itself, and not from an internet picture. </p>
<p>And telling me I should have seen the movie already if I&#8217;m that emotionally invested in it is not a valid point. Believe it or not, it just started showing here on Friday because our local theaters (Marcus-owned) did not come to a financial agreement to show it when it opened nationwide.</p>
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		<title>By: Thumb</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-207390</link>
		<dc:creator>Thumb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spoiler for sure. But if you haven't seen the movie yet, and you don't want to be spoilered, stay off the goddamn internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spoiler for sure. But if you haven&#8217;t seen the movie yet, and you don&#8217;t want to be spoilered, stay off the goddamn internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Ethridge</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-207302</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Ethridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not a spoiler..... 

if you haven't seen the movie by now then you really didn't give a damn about it in the first place.

quit bitching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not a spoiler&#8230;.. </p>
<p>if you haven&#8217;t seen the movie by now then you really didn&#8217;t give a damn about it in the first place.</p>
<p>quit bitching.</p>
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		<title>By: TheKillingJoke</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-207297</link>
		<dc:creator>TheKillingJoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO PETER...I COULDNT WORK THE POP3 THING WHEN TRYING TO EMAIL YOU SO HOPEFULLY YOU GET THIS&#62;&#62;&#62;whats up man..my name is Matt and im a dedicated Slashfilm reader...im on your site atleast 10 times a day checkin the updates and reading about all that is Hollywood and the film industry...as a screenwriter and future producer i think ur site is the best for what it offers on the web...its great....i just wish there was more info on the dark knight coming from ur site...i know Heath Ledger has died and everyone is extremely saddened by the lose...i was extremely distraught and i didnt even know him personally...as a 23 year old guy i cried many a time watching his clips and the daniel day lewis speech from the SAG awards...but jeez i mean i would really suck a dick for some new news on the dark knight...i would take it in the ass for a pic of two face....so if there is anything that is even rumor maybe we could get a post on the movie...if u have ran into a script to show us and put a spoiler warning on it maybe...i dont know...u have done such a great job on blogging news from the movie....and i amongst others are eagerly awaiting something new....alright man thanks...keep it up...SLASHFILM IS THE GREATEST SITE ON THE WEB AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED!!!!!!!
Matt Giorgio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO PETER&#8230;I COULDNT WORK THE POP3 THING WHEN TRYING TO EMAIL YOU SO HOPEFULLY YOU GET THIS&gt;&gt;&gt;whats up man..my name is Matt and im a dedicated Slashfilm reader&#8230;im on your site atleast 10 times a day checkin the updates and reading about all that is Hollywood and the film industry&#8230;as a screenwriter and future producer i think ur site is the best for what it offers on the web&#8230;its great&#8230;.i just wish there was more info on the dark knight coming from ur site&#8230;i know Heath Ledger has died and everyone is extremely saddened by the lose&#8230;i was extremely distraught and i didnt even know him personally&#8230;as a 23 year old guy i cried many a time watching his clips and the daniel day lewis speech from the SAG awards&#8230;but jeez i mean i would really suck a dick for some new news on the dark knight&#8230;i would take it in the ass for a pic of two face&#8230;.so if there is anything that is even rumor maybe we could get a post on the movie&#8230;if u have ran into a script to show us and put a spoiler warning on it maybe&#8230;i dont know&#8230;u have done such a great job on blogging news from the movie&#8230;.and i amongst others are eagerly awaiting something new&#8230;.alright man thanks&#8230;keep it up&#8230;SLASHFILM IS THE GREATEST SITE ON THE WEB AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED!!!!!!!<br />
Matt Giorgio</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Sciretta</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-206903</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Sciretta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kode: it's actually the design on a now retired t-shirt that was produced by threadless:

http://www.threadless.com/product/844/Spoilt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kode: it&#8217;s actually the design on a now retired t-shirt that was produced by threadless:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.threadless.com/product/844/Spoilt" rel="nofollow">http://www.threadless.com/product/844/Spoilt</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/16/rant-the-cloverfield-monster-is-not-a-spoiler/#comment-206890</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Charlie Jane Anders:
Don't count on it to be the "final" version though. I hear they going to release (at least) sixty different versions, to accommodate for all the people who were disappointed and liked their own monster design better... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Charlie Jane Anders:<br />
Don&#8217;t count on it to be the &#8220;final&#8221; version though. I hear they going to release (at least) sixty different versions, to accommodate for all the people who were disappointed and liked their own monster design better&#8230; ;-)</p>
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