Comments on: Indiana Jones and the Case of the Disappearing Guns and American Flag http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/ Blogging the Reel World Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:05:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Horse Racing Software http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-445229 Horse Racing Software Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:41:34 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-445229 <strong>Horse Racing Software...</strong> Give your bets extra consideration during the first and last 5-6 weeks of the Flat Turf season.... Horse Racing Software…

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]]> By: Kestrel http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-210114 Kestrel Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:50:03 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-210114 Wow. I guess the only thing I have to add, is that I thought it lent a strong vintage feel to the trailer. Wow. I guess the only thing I have to add, is that I thought it lent a strong vintage feel to the trailer.

]]> By: John Jacobs http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-207841 John Jacobs Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:41:24 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-207841 Maybe he should be masturbating into the flag to show just how much he loves america? There is no need for a flag; any flag, not just american. It's reminiscent of the moments in spiderman when he jumps onto a flagpole, the 'ol flag flapping magestically behind him. Frankly I wouldn't have been overly surprised if he had saluted it, crying, and said "God Bless America". Maybe he should be masturbating into the flag to show just how much he loves america?

There is no need for a flag; any flag, not just american. It’s reminiscent of the moments in spiderman when he jumps onto a flagpole, the ‘ol flag flapping magestically behind him. Frankly I wouldn’t have been overly surprised if he had saluted it, crying, and said “God Bless America”.

]]> By: Elling http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-206492 Elling Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:08:10 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-206492 Ooh, Norwegian subtitles, so at least we get more guns :) Ooh, Norwegian subtitles, so at least we get more guns :)

]]> By: ment0r http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-206371 ment0r Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:40:14 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-206371 I think the flag to affiliate the area 51 ;) I think the flag to affiliate the area 51 ;)

]]> By: Metachlorians Are All Around Us http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-206292 Metachlorians Are All Around Us Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:24:58 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-206292 The flag was a bit weird wasn't it?,very GI-Joe all-American hero.I don't understand why it wasn't a real flag anyway, and not a CG one.Im going to personally assassinate Lucas if this movie is bad ;) .Strange teaser.Looking forward to seeing what the full length trailer is like. The flag was a bit weird wasn’t it?,very GI-Joe all-American hero.I don’t understand why it wasn’t a real flag anyway, and not a CG one.Im going to personally assassinate Lucas if this movie is bad ;) .Strange teaser.Looking forward to seeing what the full length trailer is like.

]]> By: Mark http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-206243 Mark Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:36:59 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-206243 Flag was an establishing shot. Whether it stays or goes in international versions is possibly political, but no one will find out. What I don't get is the weird lighting as Indy picks up his hat. Feels totally fake. The weird feel of the delivery of 'Part Time' at the end after Shia's blatantly edited question about him being a teacher. The awquard score editing at the end. Did they really have to squeeze it to within a particular run-time? Then drop the references to the first 3 that no one needs and show us the Fedora to a few notes of Williams and everyone on the planet that gives a rat's ass will get the intended rush without the history lesson. And why no Karen Allen, other than a brief shot with Shia and Indy in the truck? Some things reminded me of the feel of the earlier films, and that has me excited. Will be fun. Flag was an establishing shot. Whether it stays or goes in international versions is possibly political, but no one will find out.

What I don’t get is the weird lighting as Indy picks up his hat. Feels totally fake. The weird feel of the delivery of ‘Part Time’ at the end after Shia’s blatantly edited question about him being a teacher. The awquard score editing at the end. Did they really have to squeeze it to within a particular run-time? Then drop the references to the first 3 that no one needs and show us the Fedora to a few notes of Williams and everyone on the planet that gives a rat’s ass will get the intended rush without the history lesson.

And why no Karen Allen, other than a brief shot with Shia and Indy in the truck?

Some things reminded me of the feel of the earlier films, and that has me excited. Will be fun.

]]> By: Liz http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205950 Liz Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:58:09 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205950 I thought the whole opening sequence of the trailer was weird and out of place, including the flag. I get why they used it, but I think the whole thing could have been edited together much better. I thought the whole opening sequence of the trailer was weird and out of place, including the flag. I get why they used it, but I think the whole thing could have been edited together much better.

]]> By: Matt http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205859 Matt Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:22:45 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205859 I am thinking the russians have snuck into a US military base wearing US army uniforms, thats my take on the whole scene. Indy was in the boot of the car as a prisoner perhaps? Not too sure. We'll find out soon enough come May. I'm from New Zealand, think I must've seen the american trailer though as I remember the US flag being there. My take on the flag is just that Indy is sort of an established american hero and there is a bit of patriotism going on there for the trailer but it doesn't bother me too much. Plus like someone else said in the context of the movie, they seem to be entering a military compound of some kind so thats another reason for its placement in the film. As for gun removal, that does bother me somewhat. Hopefully the guns are actually there in the movie when we see it and its only for the trailer's sake they have been removed. I seem to recall Speilberg removed guns out of scenes in E.T as well when it went to DVD and lets not forget Lucas playing around with Han Solo and Greedo willy-nilly everytime he re-releases star wars so its not too surprising they might start doign this sort of thing either. Wish they'd stop it though and go with what felt right on the day they filmed the scenes. I am thinking the russians have snuck into a US military base wearing US army uniforms, thats my take on the whole scene. Indy was in the boot of the car as a prisoner perhaps? Not too sure. We’ll find out soon enough come May.
I’m from New Zealand, think I must’ve seen the american trailer though as I remember the US flag being there. My take on the flag is just that Indy is sort of an established american hero and there is a bit of patriotism going on there for the trailer but it doesn’t bother me too much. Plus like someone else said in the context of the movie, they seem to be entering a military compound of some kind so thats another reason for its placement in the film.
As for gun removal, that does bother me somewhat. Hopefully the guns are actually there in the movie when we see it and its only for the trailer’s sake they have been removed. I seem to recall Speilberg removed guns out of scenes in E.T as well when it went to DVD and lets not forget Lucas playing around with Han Solo and Greedo willy-nilly everytime he re-releases star wars so its not too surprising they might start doign this sort of thing either. Wish they’d stop it though and go with what felt right on the day they filmed the scenes.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205846 Jeff Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:04:14 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205846 I'd like to point out that yes, those are American soldiers pointing guns at Indy. Hence the us army uniforms and the American guns. I’d like to point out that yes, those are American soldiers pointing guns at Indy. Hence the us army uniforms and the American guns.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205832 Jonathan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:46:50 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205832 I'm finding the reaction against the American flag in the trailer embarrassingly amusing. I’m finding the reaction against the American flag in the trailer embarrassingly amusing.

]]> By: alex http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205829 alex Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:43:38 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205829 I can't say anything about the guns, but the movie is going to be released for memorial day weekend. Maybe the date combined with the flag are suppose to hint at this? Just a thought... I can’t say anything about the guns, but the movie is going to be released for memorial day weekend. Maybe the date combined with the flag are suppose to hint at this?

Just a thought…

]]> By: Rachel http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205819 Rachel Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:32:22 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205819 The Americans love their guns, but cannot stand the sight of it ? That is hilarious! The Americans love their guns, but cannot stand the sight of it ? That is hilarious!

]]> By: Ranting Animator http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205815 Ranting Animator Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:29:16 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205815 Good lord people, it's just a device to establish that we are at an American military base (probably area 51.) Get over it. Consequently, I also think those are US soldiers in the above scene, not Russian. Heck, you can see USAF on the hangar right behind them! Good lord people, it’s just a device to establish that we are at an American military base (probably area 51.) Get over it.

Consequently, I also think those are US soldiers in the above scene, not Russian. Heck, you can see USAF on the hangar right behind them!

]]> By: Meli http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205761 Meli Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:27:49 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205761 I feel this whole matter of the American flag's presence in the trailer has been blown way of proportion. It's fine if some people feeling it is out of place because normally we don't see the American flag in relation to Indiana Jones; however his adventures have for the most part not taken place in the US. I just finished watching the past trailers for the other Indy flicks (thanks for posting those Peter) and then I watched the teaser trailer for Crystal Skull again and it occurred to me perhaps the flag pops up in that scene as a marker of where this film's primary adventure will take place? We know already part of the movie will take place in Roswell, NM. It could simply be symbolic of location as people have said. It's not even that long of a shot. I didn't get the feeling of forced patriotism. I didn't feel any prominent reaction to it one way or another. Could it be we we're now reading into this way too much? Hell, maybe Indy is working for the US government in this movie, so we have a quick shot of the flag. Goodness, I've wasted too much time thinking about this. For it being taken out of the International trailer that's likely political and I won't go into my opinion on that subject. I feel this whole matter of the American flag’s presence in the trailer has been blown way of proportion. It’s fine if some people feeling it is out of place because normally we don’t see the
American flag in relation to Indiana Jones; however his
adventures have for the most part not taken place in the US.

I just finished watching the past trailers for the other Indy flicks
(thanks for posting those Peter) and then I watched the teaser
trailer for Crystal Skull again and it occurred to me perhaps the
flag pops up in that scene as a marker of where this film’s primary
adventure will take place? We know already part of the movie will
take place in Roswell, NM.

It could simply be symbolic of location as people have said.
It’s not even that long of a shot. I didn’t get the feeling of
forced patriotism. I didn’t feel any prominent reaction
to it one way or another. Could it be we we’re now reading into
this way too much? Hell, maybe Indy is working for the US
government in this movie, so we have a quick shot of the
flag. Goodness, I’ve wasted too much time thinking about this.

For it being taken out of the International trailer that’s likely
political and I won’t go into my opinion on that subject.

]]> By: moofieman http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205754 moofieman Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:20:11 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205754 I think the American flag works in the trailer and the movie because this movie is suppose to be taking place during the cold war where there was alot of tension between America and the Soviet Union. Its really not about patriotism, but rather about the fact that there was alot of "jingoism" during that period in the country's history. I cant believe they removed the guns though. That is so ridiculous. And I think it suggests how far the MPAA has moved left since Dan Glickman took over. First theyve 'banned' smoking, now theyre trying to force gun control on movie trailers. Are movies themselves next? And Im pretty liberal saying that, but I have to admit, liberals can be ... almost as bad a consevatives when it comes to free speech. I think the American flag works in the trailer and the movie because this movie is suppose to be taking place during the cold war where there was alot of tension between America and the Soviet Union. Its really not about patriotism, but rather about the fact that there was alot of “jingoism” during that period in the country’s history.

I cant believe they removed the guns though. That is so ridiculous. And I think it suggests how far the MPAA has moved left since Dan Glickman took over. First theyve ‘banned’ smoking, now theyre trying to force gun control on movie trailers. Are movies themselves next? And Im pretty liberal saying that, but I have to admit, liberals can be … almost as bad a consevatives when it comes to free speech.

]]> By: jason http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205734 jason Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:59:47 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205734 Paul - I couldn't agree more. Memorial Day is first thing I thought of as well. What! What's that you say? Memorial Day isn't just the final day of my first 3-day trip to Panama City, FL where I've been able to get myself piss-drunk stupid all weekend? You mean it actually has some sort of Pro-American meaning and is not just another "paid day off!?" You mean people actually fly the American flag proudly through that weekend! What!?!? Wow. Paul - I couldn’t agree more.

Memorial Day is first thing I thought of as well. What! What’s that you say? Memorial Day isn’t just the final day of my first 3-day trip to Panama City, FL where I’ve been able to get myself piss-drunk stupid all weekend? You mean it actually has some sort of Pro-American meaning and is not just another “paid day off!?” You mean people actually fly the American flag proudly through that weekend! What!?!?

Wow.

]]> By: Paul http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205710 Paul Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:29:00 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205710 Or, could the American flag with the date of May 22 be simply used as a tie-in to the Memorial Day Weekend, for advertising purposes? I can't believe how much people nitpick things to death! Or, could the American flag with the date of May 22 be simply used as a tie-in to the Memorial Day Weekend, for advertising purposes? I can’t believe how much people nitpick things to death!

]]> By: D A Monkey http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205695 D A Monkey Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:16:25 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205695 Good call on the missing guns. Because if you look at the pictures, you can tell that it's obviously NOT different parts of the same scene. Only a complete fool would look at the two pictures, see the man in the background with his gun in different positions, and think that it's anything but digital manipulation to enforce censorship. Those censoring assholes! And removing the *American* flag for the *international* release? Good lord! That would be as wrong as calling "G.I.Joe: A Real American Hero" something different, like, say, "Action Man" for release in a country other than America! I tell you, our freedoms are being stepped on by censoring assholes and foreigners! Damn them! Damn them all to hell! Good call on the missing guns. Because if you look at the pictures, you can tell that it’s obviously NOT different parts of the same scene. Only a complete fool would look at the two pictures, see the man in the background with his gun in different positions, and think that it’s anything but digital manipulation to enforce censorship.
Those censoring assholes!
And removing the *American* flag for the *international* release? Good lord! That would be as wrong as calling “G.I.Joe: A Real American Hero” something different, like, say, “Action Man” for release in a country other than America!
I tell you, our freedoms are being stepped on by censoring assholes and foreigners!
Damn them!
Damn them all to hell!

]]> By: Deko http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205693 Deko Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:14:15 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/15/indiana-jones-and-the-case-of-the-disappearing-guns-and-american-flag/#comment-205693 It's not a big deal, but it is totally out of place, makes people think: ohh noo.. socio-political message and American patriotism in Indiana, thats why they erase it from the International trailer And why erase the guns? theres guns everywhere! its incredible how America love and hate guns at same time.. sick It’s not a big deal, but it is totally out of place, makes people think:
ohh noo.. socio-political message and American patriotism in Indiana, thats why they erase it from the International trailer

And why erase the guns? theres guns everywhere! its incredible how America love and hate guns at same time.. sick

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