Should Ratatouille Be Nominated For Best Picture?

Ratatouille OscarDisney/Pixar are contemplating pushing Ratatouille for the Best Picture Oscar at the Academy Awards, but the Mouse House is worried that such a push, might diminish their chances of winning the Best Animated Feature Oscar. As you probably know, Beauty and the Beast is the only animated film to ever be nominated for Best Picture, losing to Silence of the Lambs in 1992. Five years ago the Academy created the “Best Animated Feature” Oscar to reward the animated film’s which have been clearly given the shaft in the Best Picture category.

Ratatouille is one of the best reviewed films of the year, and of all time (with a 97% rating on Rotten Tomatoes with over 195 reviews). Brad Bird’s film is already ranked in the top 100 films of all time on IMDb with an 8.4 user rating (44,000+ votes). In my opinion, it definitely deserves to be in contention for the top prize.

The New York Times reports:

“Under the academy’s rules, films nominated for best animated feature are automatically considered eligible for best picture. Similarly, their actors - though delivering only voice performances - are eligible for general acting nominations, though none have ever received one, and their writers and directors are similarly eligible for general awards.”

I was having a discussion about this dilemma with one of my friends and he asked: “If Ratatouille won Best Picture, wouldn’t that mean that it automatically wins best animated feature?” And the answer is no, even though my friend brings up a great point founded in logic. But the Academy doesn’t work on logic, but instead on politics and who spends more money on their “For Your Consideration” campaign.

“Members could vote for the film in both categories. But Oscar campaigners assume that many would choose just one - a dangerous situation, given the small voting pool and the razor-thin margins that can determine a winner.”

What do you guys think? Should Ratatouille be nominated for Best Picture?

  • tobor68
    YES! HELL, YES!!

    DOULBE HELL YES!
  • matt
    yes, definitely.
    in my opinion, the best film of the year, deserves to win(so far)
  • cinemo
    I just spoke with Ralph S. Mouse and he feels the same way I do. Yes, Ratatouille should be considered as a Best Film nominee. The story is great, and there are no penguins in it.

    I have yet to meet a single person who didn't absolutely adore this movie. IF Disney pushed Beauty and the Beast, they should help Pixar push this.
  • there shouldn't be a Best Animated Feature (or animation ghetto as I call it) for just this reason...
    the Academy Awards are a joke (except to the industry), if Ratatouille is in the Best Picture category it will loose (because animation is just for kids = not worthy of real consideration in any context except $$$), and if it's in both categories it will win best animated feature, but this would be horribly embarrassing...
  • Sean
    Ah... in short, no.
  • TheDohDoh
    It's of the caliber for a Best Picture nom, but it won't win IMO.

    This is a decision that is totally up to the studio and is a risky proposition. There are a lot of great films this year that can't compete in a separate Best Picture category like this film can.

    I, for one, am glad there is an "animation ghetto" category, because animators deserve it and they do work that is a very different art from live action.

    Isn't "Persepolis" the odds on favorite to win in the animated category this year? I wonder if that's fueling this drive.
  • If you are the best Director, then how can your film NOT be the Best Picture? This does happen sometimes and the same would probably hold true in the Animated Feature category as well. Ratatouille is a wonderful and amazing film deserving of the Oscar for best Animated Feature, but if the mouse house pushes hard for a Best Picture nomination, I fear it may hurt its chances in both categories. 2007 has been a great year for film and the categories are already crowded. Maybe if this had been a slow or bad year? Maybe. That isn't taking anything away from Ratatouille, just being realistic.
    My two cents anyway.
  • Jamie
    I agree. There shouldn't be a Best Animated Feature. It was a mistake to create that category. There is usually... one... high quality animated feature each year. It's not enough for a category.

    The people quoted in the article are completely correct that the chances of Ratatouille being nominated for Best Picture are hurt by the existence of both categories.
  • Tom
    Disney needs to stop being so greedy and embrace Pixar as it does financially. Pixar is no longer Pixar - it's Disney. I say go for the campaign. It will certainly boost the sales of the DVD.
  • Tom
    Never mind - I misunderstood the issue. I got it now. I still say go for it. Again - it's publicity and will give the film further gas.
  • Nick O.
    No.
  • Absolutely. It's at least in the top five best films this year and deserves a nomination.
  • McLovin
    Juno, No Country, Into the Wild, A Mighty Heart, Assassination, Eastern Promises, Control, Atonement... there's no room. It's good, but not that good.
  • Turcicus
    @cinemo - If you ever meet me, then you'll meet a person who didn't adore this movie. Was it good? Yes. Did I like it? Eh. I was extremely excited for it, but then came away feeling kinda empty - for me, it didn't live up to the hype. It's only one of two Pixar films I don't own on DVD (A Bug's Life being the other). I just hope Wall-E is as good as the early hype it's getting!
  • cinemo
    sadly the truth of the matter is, that we never really remember who was nominated; just who won. and I will state that ratatouille will NOT win If it is nominated. I'm just stating I would see nothing wrong with it being nominated. @Turcicus, you did say you did 'liked it'. Also, I can't believe you own 'Cars' ... err.. jk. :-)
  • of course !!!!! Definitely one of the best movies of the year !!! it deserves the nomination and even to win as best picture...
  • Geoffrey Fleming
    Am I the only person that thought this movie was overrated.

    Even Aardman Productions Flushed Away was better than this.
  • Anonymous
    I really liked Ratatouille and thought it was the best Pixar movie so far and by a long shot, but I have it ranked right now as the 16th best movie of the year and I still haven't seen the December contenders (Juno, There Will Be Blood, Atonement, etc.).

    Peter, do you think Zodiac will get any recognition from the Academy? People will think I am absurd, but I think it is one of the ten best films of 2007 and I think David Fincher really merits a nomination. And this coming from someone who has liked his other work, but by no means thinks any of it should have been nominated before.
  • I think it should be nominated, and definitely has a chance of winning.
  • kevin
    it was one of my favorite pixar movies so far (wall-e, looks amazing)...
    it was amazing story telling
  • owen
    hell yes
  • Nick
    Meh, it was okay...at best...
  • Dave
    Forget Best Picture. Even though I think it is among the three best movies of the year, it will never win... it was great, but not that sort of awe inspiring film that can break a widely held belief that animated movies have their place and should stay there. However, I am ready for Brad Bird to be nominated for Best Director. That is a category I think he can really win and deservedly so. He has given us three of the greatest animated movies ever made and it's time he was recognized for his talents. We shouldn't have to wait for him to make his live action directing debut (which is coming) for his career to finally be deemed legitimate (stop playing with all the kiddy stuff and come out and play with the big boys if you want your Oscar). Oh, and the awards don't mean anything anyway... it's just good because it gets people to see these movies.
  • Carlos D
    Might be the best overall film of the year. I've yet to see Before the Devil Knows You're Dead but Ratatouille is certainly a far better picture than No Country For Old Men and Michael Clayton.

    I say they should go for it, the current crop is not all that impressive.
  • That shit for best picture? You have got to be kidding me.
  • it's interesting to see that dispite being one of the higest rated film this year (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt_year...), because it's a 'cartoon' it will never be judged in the same way that a live action film is...this may in fact have contributed to it's high rating, reviewrs tend to have not just double but multiple standards...
  • rabba
    "Juno, No Country, Into the Wild, A Mighty Heart, Assassination, Eastern Promises, Control, Atonement… there’s no room. It’s good, but not that good."

    yeah right. the only picture that really gives ratatouille a run for its money is superbad....
  • best movie i've seen this year.
  • dingdong
    I think no movie, of which the plot is crytal clearly obvious just from watching the trailer should qualify for an award. Ratatouille is such a movie, but on the other hand, which wasn't in 2007? So I'd say we skip the academy awards this time.
    Btw. Ratatouille is altogether pretty conventional and unoriginal.
  • Paulo
    I would totally vote for this film as Best Picture
  • keith
    dingodng: that statement makes no sense. so, in your view if there had been no trailer at all then it would qualify for best picture? mabe whoever made the trailer just did a poor job, or maybe they wanted to fluch out the plot in the trailer on purpose. any good trailer company can flush out the plot of any great movie in a trailer.

    as far as ratatouille being nominated goes: that would be great, as there havent been many other really good films this year. i didnt think rataotuille was even one of the best pixar films, but its still one of the best movies so far this year.
    i have yet to see most other recent releases that will be for consideration, so I'll hold my tongue.
  • Renee
    Yes!
  • Econojon
    My question is, what would it's competition be? I mean, isn't that what you really have to consider when deciding to nominate your film for Best Picture? What other films released this past year are good enough to compete? I mean...Gone Baby Gone...No Country for Old Men? What could possibly compete?!
  • TheDohDoh
    @Econojon/Keith

    Are you kidding? 2007 was the strongest year for films in the Oughts so far. I had posted a list of films here eariler, but it didn't go through I guess. Here's what I remember. Look at this line-up.

    Zodiac, Sweeney Todd, There Will Be Blood, Gone Baby Gone, No Country for Old Men, Michael Clayton (decent), Rescue Dawn, Into the Wild (meh), A Mighty Heart (meh), Charlie Wilson's War, Juno, Margot at the Wedding, Atonement, Dajeeling Limited (decent), In the Valley of Elah, Once, the Savages, Divine Bell & the Butterfly, I'm Not There, Control, Lars & the Real Girl, Before the Devil Knows Your Dead, Assassination of Jesse James, Eastern Promises, the Hoax, Bug, Waitress, the Nakesake, Lives of Others

    Other really good/notable films this year but not eligible/far from traditional Best Picture runners: Lake of Fire, Superbad, Knocked Up, The King of Kong, Beowulf, This is England, Transformers, Sicko, 1408, Crazy Love, 28 Weeks Later, Hot Fuzz, Disturbia (Shia's breakout), Black Book, the Lookout, 300, Black Snake Moan, Smokin' Aces

    2007 kicked ass people.
  • Sean
    LOL at 3/4's of what you listed thar ^^
  • cass
    I personally think it should be nominated. Perhaps my reasoning might be shallow, but brad bird directed and wrote (maybe not the entire screenplay, but in general most of the ideas came from him) the best film of 2007. Not only that, but, from a viewer's perspective, I'm glad that it allowed the audience to observe the dialogue and the animators' work of art; not by emphasizing the types of celebrities who are in the film (forgive me; I have a slight bias against actors. It's not that I don't like them...it's just...am i the only person who thinks they are the most overrated people in the world?). And it also has that worldwide appeal, meaning it's a story that is tasteful to both adults and kids alike...I don't know...that's just my opinion. I suppose some people would say that good actors portrayed on screen is a must for a film to be worthy of best picture.

    All I can say is that it's a film that has the whole package--a movie that I can watch over and over again with my kids.

    I guess we ought to define "What makes a movie worthy of Best Picture" before making hasty opinions like mine :D
  • gocitizen
    Absolutely. At a time when originality is grossly misrepresented and almost underappreciated, the most original film this year should be recognized as one of the five best. Exellent animation, storytelling, and creativity. It's a crime that a film like Ratatouille is held back by the animation category. I would especially push for a nomination for Brad Bird and Michael Giacchino. These men need to be recognized.
  • Caroline
    That movie was quite overrated. It doesn't deserve nomination for Best Picture, there was no orginally, the story wasn't told right. But I certainly agree they shouldn't discriminate animated and foreign films when it comes to the oscars
  • Caroline
    Okay, I'm SICK of people favoring Ratatouille over all the other Pixar movies. It was only about a rat who wanted to cook. Sure, I loved it, it was funnier than WALL-E and many others, but where is the allegorial story? Movies that lack conspicious allegories, unlike WALL-E and the Dark Knight, are never Best Picture material.
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