We usually stay away from reporting on the private lives of movie stars, but this one came as a huge shocker. The National Enquirer and Star magazine are exclusively reporting that Owen Wilson tried to commit suicide on Sunday and has now been transported to St. John’s hospital in Santa Monica. Police and ambulance responded to a 911 call from Wilson’s house in Los Angeles on Sunday early afternoon. TMZ is reporting that the 911 call came in at 11:59 a.m. to the L.A. Fire Department. A family member discovered the star and made the call. Sources tell the magazines that Wilson sliced his left wrists and took an indeterminate amount of pills. The Enquirer says that Wilson’s wrist was stitched and bandaged at the hospital, and that Wilson would “be detoxed.”
Let’s hope he gets better real soon. I always find it tremendously sad that someone of such success and stature can still be as depressed as the homeless man I pass on 4th street every day. I’ve been following his career since Bottle Rocket and I still believe that Wilson is one of the best comic actors working today. His latest film, The Darjeeling Limited is due to hit theaters on September 29th.
Update: The Santa Monica Police have issued the following statement: “On Sunday Aug. 26. 2007 at 12:10 pm officers from the Santa Monica Police Department responded to a medical assistance call from the Santa Monica Fire Department at the 900 block of 23rd Street. The person was transported to a local hospital where they are being treated.” Citing medical privacy laws, the police did not release any further information.
Monday Update: The actor released a statement through his publicist on Monday:
“I respectfully ask that the media allow me to receive care and heal in private during this difficult time.”
August 26th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
That was unexpected.
The National Enqurer though … how credible is the story?
Their site seems to be down too…
August 26th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
Even a Tabliod would not report this if it weren’t true due to the huge lawsuit potential.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:57 pm
That sucks… if it’s even true. Still waiting for more reliable sources, though. I guess he was lying in Wedding Crashers when he said that the “don’t kill myself books” weren’t his.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
Didn’t his character in the movie ‘The Royal Tenenbaums (2001) try to kill himself? This could end up like the Belushi brothers. We lose a great source of entertainment like John (Owen), and we’re left w/ the mediocre antics of his brother Jim (Luke). Tsk.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:47 pm
I hope he’s going to be OK, it is very sad. Also, celebrities try to make it sound like the tabloids get nothing right, but the National Enquirer has gotten a lot right before.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:47 pm
thats really difficult for me to believe…
August 26th, 2007 at 9:00 pm
Unbelievable! I can’t believe this! Why the movie stars do this things? He is a nice actor…
August 26th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
I don’t really want to comment on this, but I found the comparison to a homeless man in poor taste considering nothing is ever ‘news worthy’ about them here. What is the line between significant now and days…
August 26th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
When I first saw this my mouth literally fell open. I’m not sure why, but its probably because he is such a prominent actor, and not Parsi Hilton or somebody. Strange.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:31 pm
As someone who has attempted suicide myself,
I know exactly what he is feeling, he has a long and painfull
road ahead of him to get better.
I wish him the very best and a speedy recovery
August 26th, 2007 at 11:37 pm
Horray for the comment above from the NTV/NAT Group… I’ve never heard anyone else say that… but I totally agree. I’ve been watching Owen since I saw the 8 min. B/W short made of Bottle Rocket. Owen is the shining talent from that band of brothers, not to mention the necessar half to a good Wes Anderson film.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:26 am
shit thats horrible .lets hope he is alright
August 27th, 2007 at 1:47 am
Wow, I really hope Owen’s ok. It’s weird because this kind of thing happens to the most unexpected people and it’s always really hard to believe. I wish him all the best.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:54 am
hard to believe.
August 27th, 2007 at 2:50 am
Wow MTV/NAT Group… comparing Luke Wilson to Jim Belushi is the worst analogy i have ever heard, I’ll admit Owen is “the shining talent from that band of brother’s” as Hawk01 said, but Luke is definitely not as bad as Jim Belushi, Jim Belushi is like a garbage can full of mayonaise. You don’t have to insult Luke to give praise to Owen.
August 27th, 2007 at 3:02 am
The money, the fame, the women, drugs, the rest…they can fill the empty spot for a short time, then it leaks out. Love, the man needs love like everybody else. I’m guessing he instinctively knows it and perhaps really didn’t want to die.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:09 am
Why is it so hard for you people to beleive that someone could commit suicide??
I find it incredibly distasteful as well that anyone would be so inconsiderate and stupid to assume that just because someone is famous or has money, that they could never become affected with an illness that shows no discrimination. Depression or other mental disorders are the most common source of hopeless and helpless feelings, the ones that cause people to feel so trapped that they see no other way out but to take their own lives.
As a person who suffers from depression (I have an appt. to see a Dr. which was very difficult for me to make) I hope that Mr. Wilson gets the help that he desperately needs. I personally can’t imagine going through what I’m going through being in the public eye, and I’m saddened that he felt that he had no one that he could turn to, but he seems to have a good support system in place, something that not a lot of others have.
It’s the stigma and ignorance that I’ve read above in a few comments, including the original authors comparison to a homeless man, that keeps people from seeking proper help for a condition that is not only treatable, but NOT the person’s fault.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:50 am
Give me a break, Peter…
“I always find it tremendously sad that someone of such success and stature can still be as depressed as the homeless man I pass on 4th street every day.”
No, I disagree… Those really poor homeless people don’t commit suicide.
They have a stronger will to survive.
Why? Because they know how to deal with real life problems.
Those actors with an easy life, where all is so good and easy for them, don’t know how to deal with real problems.
They HAVE fame
They HAVE money
They ARE nothing.
They need a philosophy of “BEING” instead of a tradition of “HAVING”.
They need something to keep their life balanced between love-work-philosophy. They have none, so their life crumbles…
August 27th, 2007 at 5:51 am
What you find distasteful doesn’t affect reality. It’s simple math. Do you think more people kill themselves because a) they’re poor and have lost everything, or b) because they are super successful & famous stars with millions of dollars?
And when you realize the answer is A, that should help clear up why people seem surprised when someone that falls into group B does it.
It’s the same idea about how it *used to be* that when a child was molested, people would be surprised that it was by a priest. Anymore, it’s the norm, but it’s the same idea.
Oh, please… is that what’s wrong? It’s bothering you to see Owen get attention here so we need to hear your sad story?
And yet you couldn’t keep it to yourself on a public website.
Like those that “attempt” suicide, the “depressed” just seem to be looking for attention.
I wonder how long until someone claims laziness is a disease?
It reminds me of the fat people that try to blame some disease for when they make the choice to eat at McDonalds 3 times a day.
Now you’re a doctor? Or is that just a wild guess?
People that want help don’t kill themselves. And those that injure themselves while claiming it as a suicide attempt just want attention.
It’s harder to stay alive than die, so the number of attempted suicides really just makes people look pathetic. “Hey, did you hear about so-and-so? Yeah, he took 3 Aspirin instead of 2… poor guy just wanted to end it all.”
On the other hand, people that blow their head off with a shotgun or just from a 20 story building… they mean business.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:28 am
It’s too bad if there’s any truth to it. Something tells me it’s blown way out of proportion though.
Prayin’ for ya Mr. Wilson.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:34 am
Owen Wilson is a huge factor in my life- my comedic source, my favorite actor, fun to watch in anything. That aside and wondering what will come of this, I just pray that he’s okay right now.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:01 am
Suicide is such a tragedy for anyone. My heart goes out to everyone that chooses this for themselves. When you know the person it truly hits home. When you watch countless movies of your favorite actor, Owen Wilson, you feel like you know them. Negative news about them, especially attempted suicide, hits you like a ton of bricks. It literally makes you stop in your tracks and try to catch your breath. You just can’t believe what you are hearing and pray that it is not true. All I can say is that my prayers go out to everyone that feel that this is all they have left to escape their troubles.
God Bless!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 8:24 am
For Mike, depression is a real illness and a leading cause of suicide. These are facts, and if you want to continue living in ignorance that’s your problem. But it doesn’t give you right to put people down.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:56 am
Not everyone that’s having a bad day is a “disease” victim. Get real.
And let me guess, you don’t see that more people with this “disease” are not super successful millionaires? Instead, they’re most losers, which apparently makes them more prone to catch the depression disease.
Again, weak people try to play victim and call their flaws diseases. Sad people, fat people, blah blah blah… Why take responsibility for anything when you can just play victim? If you can’t blame someone else, then just call it a disease.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:13 am
I couldn’t believe my eyes when I read this news. Owen always seems happy when you see him in a picture. Guess you can never really tell what goes on inside someone.
I’m so sorry this happened to him. Suicide isn’t a choice, it’s the only option. I tried to commit suicide once, it didn’t feel like a choice to me, I was ill. I thank God I’m doing better now and for making me see how beautifull this life is, even on a dark day. I hope Owen can find the same peace.
My best wishes to you, Owen, you’re an amazing actor (you’ve made me laugh so many times), of course I don’t know you personally, but you seem like a great guy. Please stay around a bit longer, this world is a little better with you in it!
August 27th, 2007 at 11:04 am
Whoa, Mike… you are waaaaay off base here. Any psychologist can explain to you that clinical depression is an actual illness. It is VERY different than having a bad day, or having something in your life that you don’t like. The problem is that we used the word ‘depressed’ casually but incorrectly.
Clinical Depression is when a person feels sad no matter what their circumstances. You can give them everything and anything, but unless they’re treated for the illness. It affects about 12 percent of the US population, conservatively.
While it is true that people who suffer from clinical depression are often unable to deal with high-stress situations (job loss, break-ups, etc.), often times they’ll attempt suicide or self-abuse regardless, depending on the severity of their condition.
It’s also important to not that we can trace the biological origins of depression. For instance, we know that depression occurs postpartum with many women. Depression is something a doctor can diagnose and treat– it’s something a scientist can track inside the brain.
You are correct that not everyone having a bad day is a disease victim, but that’s not what depression is. Plenty of us have horrible things happen in life, but would never actually harm ourselves in response. That’s a key difference, and one way to understand depression.
Maybe most indicative of your ignorance on this issue is that most suicide victims are “losers.” Wow. Statistically, suicide is the 8th leading cause of death in the U.S. among men. And here’s a key point… the average suicide victim is MORE affluent than the average person. Suicide disproportionately affects people in the medical ,legal, and law enforcement professions. The reason for this is pretty simple… people who suffer from clinical depression working in high-stress jobs. Bottom line: while depression can affect anyone, the average suicide victim is a white male in his 50s or 60s with a healthy income. So this idea that suicide correlates with “losers” is just wrong. Your statement that suicide is more prevalent among the poor who have lost everything is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Your comments are pretty insensitive and show a general ignorance on the issue of depression. Clinical depression has affected everyone from Abraham Lincoln to Elvis Presley. There are a LOT of very successful people who suffer from it, in fact, they’re more likely to commit suicide, because they’re often placed in high stress environments, but never get treatment/medication due to social stigmas furthered by people like yourself.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
“Like those that ‘attempt’ suicide, the ‘depressed’ just seem to be looking for attention.”
Mike…that is the most retarded comment I have EVER heard! Please try to inform yourself a little bit more before you make ignorant comments like that again. While SOME people who attempt suicide might do it just to get attention…the majority of people do it because they are depressed and don’t get help for it or something like that. What if a girl who was molested when she was younger attempts suicide but someone finds her before she’s dead…and she lives…she “attempted” suicide, but because she didn’t succeed, she was looking for attention? I think not, asshole.
people who generalize situations like this are what is wrong with the world. And I hate people who use the “suicide is a cry for help” story…it’s bullshit…I don’t care if people know my story or not, so I have no objections to posting about it online just to show people like you that you are WRONG in what you’ve said. My senior year of high school shit got real bad for me, I took almost 100 pills, asshole…I didn’t die, I was sick for a long time, though…and DIDN’T tell anyone about it. My parents found out and made me get help.
I didn’t do it as a cry for help because I didn’t tell anyone about what I had done, and second…a person who is only wanting attention doesn’t take close to 100 pills.
So shut your fucking mouth.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Mike.
I know you can be smarter than that.
Actors act. Maybe that’s why they feel bad sometimes.
Pretending has never truly made me feel right.
…I hope you get the point.
P.S. I kind of like Owen Wilson too
August 27th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
It’s no mystery why Owen seems happy off the set. Being high makes a lot of people seem happy. So does success, fame & millions of dollars.
I like him too — he’s one of my favorites. But that doesn’t change the reality of how easy it is to kill yourself–IF you really want to die.
Emo sissies like Sean make it sound like it’s hard, just because their idea of a suicide attempt is eating 4 Flintstones chewable vitamins instead of just 1 or 2.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
Mike, you are very uninformed. I have no idea why you would attack someone, regardless of their income when they are mentally unstable enough to attempt such a saddening scenario. You comment on the drugs a lot but if you were to research this topic you would find that a lot of mentally unstable individuals are intensely attracted to such substances because it temporarily takes them away from their ‘real’ view of their lives. Brain scans of people with varying mental illnesses actually actively look different than people without these disorders. It is not a mind over matter thing for people who are clinically depressed, they just get to a point where they don’t care anymore or are desperate for a way to end the experiences they are having because to them, no matter how successful anyone else would consider them…they don’t see it that way. I believe that you are so aggressive toward this topic either because you are in a position where you highly envy his life (and would not live it the same way he is; seeing it as a waste) or someone close to you attempted or committed suicide and this is your way of writing it off…believing there is no reason why someone could or would do it. You need to be more considerate of others when posting your comments. You have a right to believe what you want but attacking others is not going to give you any favor. Good luck with your troubles; I hope you grow from this experience. I also hope Owen gets the help and proper support that he needs.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
I hope you intelligent people won’t waste any more of your valuable time trying to educate Mike. You’d have better luck with a rock. It has more feelings, and a higher I.Q.
Let’s remember to ask God to hold Owen and his family in his hands during this difficult time, and hope that things get better for them soon.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
Exactly. When it comes to depression and feeling bad enough to see suicide as a way to relieve it, I don’t think it ultimately matters how much money you have or how famous you are.
And to judge the person by saying things like “oh but he has everything to live for”, and to casually label someone just another “weak” attention-seeking celebrity is just ignorant. The point is that we don’t know why one day might suddenly feel more unbearable for a person than the previous ones. And I very much hope Owen gets better.
August 27th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
In response to the comment-”How can a person like Owen Wilson be depressed?”- in view of all the much less fortunate people in the world like the homeless, etc etc….Well, that’s not how the mind works. Clinical depression can occur for no external reason at all. Just because people have money, fame, health, doesn’t mean they can’t fall victim to depression and suicide. Its a sickness and a very painful one which no one can fully know unless they’ve been down that road before. And everyone’s mental pain is unique to them. No one can judge another person’s depression as being unnecessary.
August 27th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Yeah, I’m troubled… that hurts coming from a bunch of people that are probably wearing all black and sitting around listening to My Chemical Romance.
And to the genius that thinks I or someone I know went through it–wrong (big surprise). In that case, I’d probably be buying into the crap that’s being spewed here. I don’t personally know anyone that’s pathetic enough to do the suicide attempt for attention thing.
I’d like to see any of you show some stats that show a HIGH percentage of depression/suicide can be backed up with a TRUE medical condition. A psychiatrist doesn’t count, as the belief in this crap is what lines their pockets. Go find all the brain scans that show the real problems and compare that number to the actual number of people that claim to have a “disease” or that try to kill themselves.
Again, it’s just like how 4 people can have a true eating disorder, so millions of people try to claim the same thing just to justify being a fat useless slob.
Yeah, I get. Everyone’s a victim and everything’s a disease. Boo hoo.
If you try to kill yourself, you will be dead. That is a fact. Keep denying it all you want, but it’s true. And if the 5 pills & 1/2″ cut to the wrist don’t kill you, don’t be a quitter–try again, this time with a gun. And if you can’t succeed at something as simple as dying, then maybe it’s time to admit you’re not as depressed as you want people to believe.
Anyone that lives to claim they tried to die is nothing more than a pathetic liar.
Especially the pill-poppers, because they know there’s no way to prove how many they took. Blow half your face off with a shotgun, then come tell me about how depressed you are and how you wanted to die. Then, I ‘might’ take you seriously.
August 27th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
Yeah um…
No one cares how long people have been following Owens work or how much movie knowledge a person can cram into a comment or what people’s personal hypotheses are. The main thing is that poor Owens been suffering and we should all wish him a speedy recovery and that our thougts are with him and his family because theyre probably not feeling so hot right now.
August 27th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Well he obviously didnt want to die otherwise he would have finished the job. But hopefully he doesnt try again and gets the help he needs.
August 27th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
this mike character is probably right, but why keep going on about it? Fact is that Owen Wilson probably tried to end his life. He’s awesome (in movies/other stuff at least) and what this will do to affect his work is in question. When did this become a suicide debate, one against 20?
August 27th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
You’re soooo tough, man. I mean, you’re like John McClane meets Chuck Norris. All these whiney emo kids could learn so much about toughening up from you.
What are you, like, thirteen? I’m pretty sure clinical depression didn’t first pop up in response to My Chemical Romance.
You seem to have a difficult time understanding the difference between a melancholy state and the actual mental illness.
Let me try to explain it to you this way: while plenty of people will ponder suicide or talk about suicide, only a fraction of that group have a genuine mental state that overrrides the very powerful survival instinct nature builds in us.
As for your ridiculously insensitive remarks about people who attempt suicide, many victims are trying to go peacefully and in a way that doesn’t cause pain. Many people pass out while slitting their wrists before they can make a deep enough insertion (it’s a natural defensive body reflex). But huge numbers of people are successful don’t forget– suicide is the 8th highest cause of death among males, and 11th overall.
I recognize you wouldn’t understand that, since you’re so tough you could probably gnaw your own arm off before passing out and all these depressives are just little pussies next to you, but still… the survival instinct is a very powerful thing, and it works both mentally and physically to slow a depressive in their efforts to take their own life. which is a good thing, obviously.
As for your coments about brain scans, I don’t really understand what you mean. Okay, I get that there will always be young people who adopt a gloomy outlook as part of their cultural persona. When I was a kid, it was goths, nowadays its emos, whatever… but a person who actually attempts suicide is beyond some cultural impersonation– they’re in a genuinely depressive state, and any doctor– psychiatrist, surgeon, general practitioner, whoever– will tell you that.
Everyone is NOT a victim. If a person suffers from clinical depression, they have a responsiblity to get help from a doctor. There are scores of medications available to treat the illness and allow them to live normal lives.
But pretending this isn’t a real illness is flat-out ignorant. It’s not tough, or self-reliant, it’s stupid.
August 27th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
Wow… you’re really sick. A suicide attempt is a cry for help. Please stop referring to an actual, diagnosable illness as being “emo.” It just makes you look ignorant. He’s not a whiner trying to get attention, he’s someone who needs medical help.
This kind of insensitivity usually comes back on a person.
“Having the balls…” oooh, big tough guy…
August 27th, 2007 at 4:47 pm
Guys, calm down. Mental illness and clinical depression is not to be joked about. Remember, some people on this comment thread have probably lost family members and/or friends to depression/suicide. Last night I received an e-mail from someone who is close to Owen who came across this story (he took issue to something I said in an entirely different story unrelated to Owen, but that’s besides the point) The point is that I know for a fact that some of these people have already come to this page. If anything, keep it respectful for them, please. Let’s tone down the anger in this discussion, talk rationally and debate intelligently. There is no need for name calling. Thanks!
August 27th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
I don’t think Mike is right at all.
First of all, several of his points are completely irrelevent.
Also, people do not have the choice of either killing themselves because they’re poor and have lost everything, or because they’re rich and famous. There are issues surrounding Owen Wilson and his situation that none of us have any idea about, and he can’t be put down compared to other people just because they dont have as much money. If someone is really superficial enough to assume that money solves all problems then I can’t change their mind, but it’s callous and ignorant .
Personally, I don’t believe he did it for attention. Some people just don’t want to live anymore, and it’s as simple as that. It could also have been a cry for help, but there is a difference between that and simply seeking attention like a truffle-hunting french pig. It’s pretty disgusting that some people have the flippancy to disregard him as just another attention-whore, while all he wants right now is to be left alone and “heal in private”. It doesn’t sound like he’s basking in the so-called attention he is recieving.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
Hey, John gets it too!
Yes, Kurt definitely wanted to die. And even someone that was already on drugs knew to grab the gun, instead of just doing more drugs.
I guess his depression “disease” wasn’t bad enough to kill his common sense, since he could still figure out what the right tool for the job was.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
Wow… Mike… you are seriously one sick, twisted individual.
The point isn’t whether or not he was trying to kill himself or just some kind of attempt. Attempts themselves are cries for help and indicators of a depressive state.
I’m done. I’ll respect Peter’s wishes on this, since, as he noted, people close to Owen might be reading this.
I’ll just say that Mike, the kind of insensitivity and malice you’ve demonstrated on this thread really indicate you’re not a very good human being. I hope you learn, at some point in your life, that your views on this are small-minded and ignorant. These are people in a lot of pain. As I said, but you ignored, our naturally installed survival instinct means that yes, many people will not actually commit suicide, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t sick and they aren’t hurting.
I’ve heard a lot of strange arguments on the net before, but this has to be the most twisted and disturbing I’ve come across. It’s sad that there are people like you out there.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:39 pm
I didn’t demonstrate any malice, retard.
I didn’t say people weren’t a mess if they were even thinking about it. Here’s a recap:
People that want to die, do.
Failed suicide attempts are nothing more than pathetic attempts to get attention.
Nice try, calling that survival instincts. Survival instincts never tell you to eat a bunch of pills, but now quite enough to die.
The ones with actual medical problems are few and far between. I’m still waiting for someone to prove otherwise–not gonna happen.
It’s the same as fat people desperately clinging to the eating disorder story.
And I’m sure Owen’s family have better things to do right now than read through these comments. If Owen doesn’t want this kind of attention, then he needs to get his act together.
What’s next? Will you guys claim that the behavior of other famous people like Lindsay Lohan & Paris Hilton are also disease-related? Or do they have to scratch their wrists and eat some aspirin before they can use that excuse?
But you just keep thinking you’re a great person because you side with people that aren’t smart enough to cope with life, just like everyone else in the world has to.
When you’re done patting yourself on the back here, maybe you can go hug a bum and tell him to cheer up, because maybe someday, they’ll come up with a cure for the homeless disease.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
Gee. I don’t get it. Summer was jail season. Fall is rehab season. Is Owen just so fashion forward that he is setting the Winter trend? Suicide season? Gosh. Anything for a cover story, I guess.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
Wow… pathetic.
“people that aren’t smart enough to cope with life”
Yeah. That’s it.
You’re disgusting.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:42 pm
Well, Mike (my name is also Mike), I think you need a little reality check. Your arguments offend my intellect and show your complete lack of respect for other human beings. Clinical depression is a scientifically proven disease. Maybe you should go read a book (no, I’m not going to spew references and quotations to you - EDUCATION is a personal responsibility). There are people in this world that have dedicated their lives to studying the roots of depression. You say psychiatrists line their pockets by believing in depression. Well, some might be in it for the money, but you left out the most important individuals when it comes to psychology: psychologists and researchers. If you don’t know the difference, psychologists are not doctors of medicine. I’ve spent the last two years of undergraduate reading textbooks (written by experts) and peer-reviewed literature on mental disorders. Too many people shut their eyes to reality and all the possibilities in the world these days. Ignorance is not a clinical disease, but it sure is transmittable.
Mike, I love you and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Oh yea, BOTTLE ROCKET is my favorite movie. And if this story is true, I hope Owen feels better soon. Walking on the edge of life can be extremely sobering, and sometimes necessary.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:57 pm
I guess you missed the part where I said if you’re going to reply with pointless psychobabble, back it up with some medical stats that back it up.
It also seems that some of you can’t read. I didn’t say show me where it’s a disease. I said even if a few are, they are few and far between. Notice that none of the geniuses here have yet to link any stats to the percentages, because it would kill their claims. Again, it’s exactly like obesity. You get a few people with an eating disorder, then millions cling to the excuse and use it to justify being a fat twinkie-eating slob.
You know, it’s also a fact that people get stomach aches. How many people claim to be really sick to serve themselves, whether it’s missing school, work, etc..? Or does everyone believe the lying doesn’t extend to more serious issues?
At least you realize it’s about money and not the well-being of others, whether you fully admit it or not. These type of “doctors” rely on people not getting better for their income.
Some might call that a biased information source. Would you go to an oil company if you wanted recommendations for an electric car?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
I truly hope Owen gets better and that people like you Mike smarten up and shut their mouths.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
Oh man… every time I think he can’t say anything stupider, he does…
Dude, it’s the 8th leading cause of death among men in this country. I’m pretty sure that’s proof that it’s pretty widespread problem.
I didn’t know someone had to successfully kill themselves in order to be considered depressive. Otherwise, apparently, they’re just ‘faking it’? Wow, thank God you’re not a doctor.
Give it up. There’s a reason people are calling you out at 4-1 margin. When it’s that many people, yes, the problem is you, tough guy.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:12 pm
Yeah, I’ll shut my mouth to pacify a bunch of whiners. Hold your breath.
Wait, don’t hold your breath… someone might think you have the depression disease and try to pass it off as a suicide attempt.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:16 pm
Mike,
I truly hope that you never become depressed.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Auto accidents are also a major cause of death. I guess using your brilliant logic, that makes bad driving a disease?
I didn’t say you had to succeed to be depressed. I said you had to succeed if you really wanted to die.
Is it that hard to figure out? You have to try to stay alive–not try to die. Dying is easy. You could ask anyone that forgot to look before crossing the street, that got run over by a semi… if they weren’t dead.
Seriously, do you think Owen really wanted to die, but couldn’t afford a gun, or kill himself where he wouldn’t be quickly found by family? Get real.
That stumps you… and I’m the stupid one? Great call!
August 27th, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Oh, and one more thing: on survival instinct, which you clearly don’t understand. A depressive has feelings that override and counteract the natural will to live, but the degree of their depression plays a role, and very few depressives can override it to the point of painful suicide without inebriating themselves.
Most of the people you read about killing themselves with a gun are intoxicated when doing so. They inebriate themselves to help overcome their body’s natural impulse to survive. This is the same reason people who jump off bridges scream and clutch at the air, even though they decided to jump– the natural instinct to survive is our strongest human prerogative.
Point being, anytime anyone gets to a point where they can even somewhat skirt that natural impulse, they’re in a condition that needs treatment.
I also find your attitude towards eating disorders pretty hilarious. What, people are faking that, too?
Maybe you should just deal with the fact that we know a lot more about the human brain and how it functions than we did 50 years ago, and realize that some things are in fact illnesses that we once thought were personal decisions. You should try educating yourself and not being such a small-minded twit.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:20 pm
First of all, My thoughts and my heart go out to Owen and His family…
Second of all, All I have to say about this Retard named Mike, I have a feeling that he is a Nihilist and/or a Scientologist, referring to his comment on not believing in psychologists. I hope that Mike never has to experience or know someone who suffers from a SERIOUS illness like depression. Just because you hear about hypochondriacs and people who cry wolf to get attention, those are the cases that are few and far between. I hope that you say these things to the wrong group of people, so maybe they can BEAT THE REALITY INTO YOU!
But Seriously, I am sorry for chiming in about the Retard, And I have stopped for respect for Mr. Wilson and his Family and for the readers who have been affected by depression.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
God help us, Mike is apparently all knowing.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
Wait, I don’t get it.
First, who here is saying he actually wanted to die? We don’t know. What we said is it’s a clear sign of a depressive state and we hope he gets help, rather than what you call “a pathetic attempt to get attention.”
But man, you’re argument has switched around so many times its incoherent. You’re coming off like an asshole, and I’m sure it’s not the first time for someone like you.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Mike, I guess you missed the part where I said education is your responsibility. You referred to the depressed as lazy, well, what do you call failing to research a topic and then getting up on a high horse about it? Prove me wrong, man.
I have a feeling you may feel a little lost as where to start - considering your demeanor about the topic. For a real simple start, go to wikipedia.org and type in “clinical depression” in the search box. Read the whole page, and then look at the references at the bottom. If you really want to invest some time, travel to your local library, and I’m sure a friendly librarian can help you out. Or, maybe even check out those references.
As for your money reference, psychologists and researchers are not compensated nearly enough for the important work they do. If you know anything at all about research, you know it involves having a lot of knowledge, knowing how to apply that knowledge, and putting your heart and soul into the work. All the while, being overworked and underpaid. It isn’t a profession that people seek for the money. And, it is sad that you are disillusioned enough to think all psychiatrists feast off the sick, I guess people forget the honor and integrity involved in doctoring.
I still love you, man. Just try to open up your mind a little.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Mike, I don’t understand your logic for saying that a suicide attempt is just a shot for attention. If someone harms themselves they are obviously not in a good place.
You may view it as a cry for attention, but I’m glad that they recieve help from it.
I also wish the best for Owen Wilson and his family.
P.S. As an outsider on this discussion it would seem that all of your arguments are recieving the most attention. I was wondering, are you doing this on purpose?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
kind of pathetic. we try to survive everyday from anything. we cover our body from cold and hot. we swallow pills for getting well from sick.
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August 27th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Mike, I don’t understand your logic for saying that a suicide attempt is just a shot for attention. If someone harms themselves they are obviously not in a good state.
You may view it as a cry for attention, but I’m glad that they recieve help from it.
I also wish the best for Owen Wilson and his family.
P.S. As an outsider on this discussion it would seem that all of your arguments are recieving the most attention. I was wondering, is this your way of calling for attention? There are more positive ways to recieve it you know.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
Education isn’t the problem here, it’s spouting off supposed facts without backing them up. If you can prove that it’s true by saying there are facts, then I can prove it’s wrong by saying the facts don’t exist.
See how that works? You have to prove a positive–not a negative. Would using Santa Clause as an example help?
I guess I should just kill myself since I have a bunch of know-it-alls calling me a know-it-all.
Also, I didn’t give them the label of feeding off of the weak for money–they did that to themselves. It’s their livelihood… even if you think they’re angels that care more about strangers than putting food on the table for their family.
If you’re idea of opening my mind is believing that every self-harming loser has a disease, I think I’ll keep it closed. A truly open mind would see through some of the BS.
How about the post we’re commenting on, where it said he tried to commit suicide?
I didn’t realize you had redefined “commit suicide” to mean “I’m sad.”
August 27th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
By the way, Scramble… I see you’re having a hard time keeping your mouth shut out of respect for the family, like you claimed.
I guess something as simple as shutting up would seem a bit hard to someone that thinks it’s hard to die.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:49 pm
“I guess something as simple as shutting up would seem a bit hard to someone that thinks it’s hard to die.”
Hey… thought here…. Why don’t you try shutting up?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:56 pm
Because I didn’t say I was going to. I said the opposite, actually.
Is it that you can’t read, or you you just didn’t want to?
August 27th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
I thought there was hope, Mike. I thought you might actually go read those facts that I laid out for your acquisition. All you have proven is that you are lazy.
Extra love. I just hope that you realize that being open-minded actually means considering all facts presented. All you have shown is your lack of knowledge and your unwillingness to fill the gap. It is truly your loss. I only hope no one important in your life ever experiences depression. I would hate to see you try to will them through it or write off their suffering as a sign of weakness. If this display of your knowledge (or lack thereof) somehow makes you feel good, you should really reflect on how you are using the time you have on this earth.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:03 pm
Owen wilson, homeless people, People in third world countries, Donald Trump. It doesn’t matter who you are or how much success you have or don’t have. Human beings will always be in search of unconditional acceptance and purpose. We will do things to make people love us and to convince ourselves that we matter. But, Things do not make you happy, success only lasts for a short time. On the most basic level, people want to know that they are loved and accepted just for who they are- not what they have or what they can offer. If owen wilson wasn’t hilarious or rich or a huge actor- would people still love him? Thats probably what he was thinking.
He probably (if this whole suicide thing is true) felt “i have everything but i feel nothing if this is all that life has to offer then I’m done with it”. WHo knows. All i know is that anyone given the right circumstances could be susceptible to deep feelings of inadequacy and worthlessness and be willing to destroy their own life. I’m glad it didn’t work. Im glad Owen is going to be alright. I pray that Owen Wilson will see that he is valuable, his life is valuable, if the world had never even known his name- he is valuable just because he’s Owen.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:17 pm
Not lazy - I just stopped taking you seriously when you used Wikipedia as your reference to prove medical facts.
You should probably quit preaching the open-mindedness crap if you can’t even see through the BS.
I guess my ‘time on this earth’ would be better spent believing that every run-of-the-mill loser is actually a disease victim that needs a hug.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
I used wikipedia.org because I assumed you knew nothing about academics (I guess you missed that between the lines). See, when you know nothing about a subject, you start at the bottom and work your way up to the point of understanding. If you actually looked at the article, you would realize that the facts stated within are referenced from NIH, JAMA, and many other medical journals. The saddest part is that you call legitimate people losers and, by doing so, make yourself look like one. And yes, people do need hugs and help. Please don’t tell me you have risen to superhuman status in which you have cleansed all weakness away. You are human too, and, if you were in need of help, I’m sure you wouldn’t want to be called a loser. Lots of love.
Do me a favor, go to nih.gov, and then type depression in the top right search box. Look, I even threw you a bone.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:46 pm
Obviously we don’t know all the details here, but if this is a case of attempted suicide then it is likely the result of depression. No one truly understands depression unless you or someone very close to you have experienced it. It knows no socioeconomic boundaries. It can happen to ANYONE - a teacher, a president, a grandmother, a homeless person or an actor. Taking one’s life certainly is a choice, but contrary to what some might think, depression is not something someone chooses. So often it is chemical, hormonal, or genetic and just happens. It is an illness.
Over 1 year after having my second child I developed severe depression. I couldn’t understand it. I went from normal and happy to feeling nothing. I come from an upper middle class background and have a masters degree. I am generally a funny laid back girl that no one would ever suspect of being depressed. I was ashamed, tried to hide it and put on a happy face. It took a year before I was able to get my life together, but it was the first time that I had an inkling of how a person could consider ending it all. I never personally went that route, but I felt the such an intense void and absolute loss of any feeling for the things I loved. I am well now and am not looking for attention, but just want to share with those that haven’t had first hand experience with depression. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. I am no longer shamed by it and chose to get help because I wanted to get my life back. I am grateful to be well and me again. My thoughts and prayers are with Owen and his family at this very difficult time.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
I’ve been to nih.gov… and don’t see anything that proves any points you’re trying to make. The stat I’m looking for is what percentage of suicides are linked to a true medical condition. Whatever that number is, you can be sure it’s much higher than the failed attempts would be.
The closest I see is this:
“depression and other mental disorders, or a substance-abuse disorder (often in combination with other mental disorders). More than 90 percent of people who die by suicide have these risk factors.”
But that’s somewhat useless because it’s vague and includes different things. I never said there aren’t mental disorders–just that cases of depression being one aren’t going to make up for the bulk of suicides.
It would be hard to prove anyway, considering how many people kill themselves without going to a doctor first for a mental tune-up.
Here’s one that definitely points to the whole I-want-attention aspect of “attempts” though:
“An estimated eight to 25 attempted suicides occur per every suicide death.”
You don’t see anything wrong with that statistic? Do you really believe that if 8 - 25 people TRIED to kill themselves, only one would be successful? Not a chance.
There is no way that if 25 people try to die, only one will. I’d bet more than 1 in 25 people die of some sort of accidents and they’re trying to stay alive.
I also see they credit “over half” of suicides with guns, with suffocation taking it up to the 50 - 80% range. It would be nicer to see that broken down more than they have it.
I’d bet that a better breakdown would show that pill-poppers make up a tiny percentage of serious attempts. Doesn’t look like wrist cutting is a popular choice for serious attempts either.
Also, the guy that threw out the “11th largest cause of death stat” leaves out that it translates to an average of 10.9 out of 100,000 deaths. Hmm… doesn’t sound as dramatic when you use actual numbers.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:41 pm
I’m sure some of you have heard of bipolar “disorder” or manic depression. Many incredibly talented people have this “disorder,” and although there is a varying degree of depression from person to person, many bipolar folks would rather be bipolar because they tend to be smarter and more successful than the average person. In my case, depression is more common than the soaring highs (when I am much more creative than normal and my thinking processes are much faster). So, if I had the option I would like to be average, rather than have bipolar disorder.
Why do I say these things? Many artists (including actors and musicians) are successful due to (and sometimes in spite of) bipolar “disorder.” With the proper treatment, the sky is the limit for these folks, and I wish them the very best.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Alright everyone…. A movie star does not need to cry for attention by attempting to kill themselves. If they wanted attention they would check into rehab and the day they get out get a DUI and a cocaine possession. Obviously Owen felt like it would be better to be dead then alive. I hope Owen will pull through this and get back to a healthy lifestyle, live happily, and put out more movies that makes the whole world laugh. This is not the situation to be hating on him.
Also, Mike, you just need to stop while you are behind. Anyone can just read stats off a website and post them. Who cares. This is not your normal suicide attempt anyways if you are looking up stats. You should look up the most common reasons for famous oscar winning actors with multiple movies to be released in the next year that have millions of dollars that are not yet into their 40s (if i’m not mistaken i don’t think he is in his 40s). So therefore all those stats you read off don’t really apply here.
Thoughts and prayers go out to Owen Wilson and the Wilson family in this time of need and I hope that he makes a speedy and healthy recovery.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
Some seem upset that a man “asked for help.” Apparently Owen lost his macho merit badge by not actually dying.
The world is filled with Great Santinis who, hazed themselves, haze others in turn. They are cowards. Their code-of-the-road is to pass pain on, not stop it. Such boyos hate emotions. They act like porcupines, farting at anything that feels. Their greatest fear is to cry or “whine†or seem…womanly.
There are a zillion such half-humans. They are “tough” hombres who cower before feelings. They are rocks…and about as useful. They are the murderers in prison (most of whom were severely abused when young and had no adult protection) who kill those who “look” at them the “wrong way.” Some toughness! Their maleness is a mile wide and an angstrom deep.
What must tough-guys think of WWI poets like Wilfred Owen or even Pericles’ Oration? Probably call them candyasses.
Dulce et decorum est, indeed.
Who knows what was in Owen’s mind. It can’t be easy to slice one’s wrists. Or face tabloid reporters after So what if he did it to get attention. Oh, I forgot: That’s verboten. “Real men” have to “suck it up.” Guys can cheer like baboons during the Stupor Bowl, but never-ever mention going through divorce, having prostate cancer, etc. Such men harden themselves (often dying earlier deaths as a result), yet think themselves strong. Well, how hard is to be “brave” when you feel nothing? The challenge is to act when scared.
Oh, and, uh, just what did these brave men do as millions of boys were drugged, the better to sit docilely in classrooms? That’s right: Nothing!
I don’t care if Owen tried to kill himself or “just” asked for help. Wanting to call it quits is not “weak.” It’s tragic. There but for the grace of God go us all. Except, or course, those who think anyone down on his/her luck is a bum. They are the type who swear THEY’d never break under torture.
Right.
We now have a government FILLED with such robomen. The are unfeeling cowboy galoofs: from the always-sneering Cheney to the born-again Grand Decider. They care not a jot for the pains of others. In fact, they think others lesser and weaker. The result? After losing 3,000 Americans, they ordered the killing a million Iraqis who had nothing to do with 9-11. That’s like China killing 3.7% of our country after being attacked by Italy. Translation: Every man, women and child in Baltimore, Boston, Columbus, Detroit, Indianapolis, Memphis, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Phoenix, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, AND Seattle would be killed. Imagine how that would make us feel? It’s as if after Japan attacked us at Pearl Harbor we destroyed half of Ireland.
God forbid guys should ever empathize. It’s so much easier to be robotic and piss on anything that feels.
Alas, anyone who spends 5 minutes with such “real men” knows how limited and mule-like they are. They are best used for dangerous work and kept from places where humans congregate
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August 28th, 2007 at 12:40 am
Didn’t he recently break up with kate Hudson, when is she going to comment on all this, he probably has been giving off this’ kill myself ‘ vibe for a while now , who dumped who? losing a woman like that can make any man suicidal ask Sean kingston….
August 28th, 2007 at 2:26 am
poor guy. hes my fav.
August 28th, 2007 at 3:28 am
I find it really funny that “Mike” claims that Owen was just doing it for attention, yet he’s the one responding to everyone’s comments and monopolizing the board. I for one, am going to just ignore him. One can only hope that when his pathetic attempt to get attention, the thing that he’s accusing a wide range of folks of doing strictly for attention, is ignored, that he’ll simply go away.
It’s my experience that people like him are just ignorant and insensitive, using that to bring attention and disrupt, because sadly, they have nothing else to offer anyone other than being beligerant and combatative. :)
August 28th, 2007 at 3:42 am
so the gerbil semen is catching up with him ha? Tht will teach him to act stupid like that. And jus how did he slit his wrist. Probably botched it up and slit horizontally. Wat a loser and if this incident has nething to do wit Kate, may i suggest some much needed therapy. And since he is in hospital maybe he can get the LONG AWAITED NOSEJOB. i MEAN WATS UP WITH HIS NOSE ? ITS LIKE SQUARE AND SQUASHED!
August 28th, 2007 at 3:57 am
God, what’s the difference. Why argue anyway. Whether he really wanted to die or whether it was a cry for help. Most people who attempt suicide don’t want to die, they just want the pain to stop, whatever that might be. And when a person attempts suicide, he is probably messed up enough to see suicide as the only way to cure the pain. Which it isn’t. Obviously. But you don’t see the other ways at that point. Call it weakness or stupid emo crap if you want, the point is that a person who hasn’t been in a state like that does not get it. Owen obviously needs help and if this “stupid attention seeking gesture” gets him that help then ..
August 28th, 2007 at 4:10 am
Just wishing Owen the best and hope that he gets the treatment that he needs.
August 28th, 2007 at 8:41 am
That was kinda my point. The make believe doctors here are claiming that there is medical proof to back up their claims… and that’s a website that was referred to. I said I DON’T see anything there that means much.
The stuff that did stand out, if anything, seems to point to what I said before… that the pill-poppers with little scratches on their wrist DON’T want to die. They shouldn’t even get to call that a suicide attempt, just for attention’s sake.
Geez… your average mechanic or construction worker probably get more banged up on the job than half of these attention seekers do during their suicide attempts.
I’m still waiting for someone here to claim they tried to kill himself before by punching himself, or stomping on his own foot.
When you’re done crying, go look up ignore in the dictionary. You’re the genius that just brought my name back up and gave me something to reply to.
Let me guess, you’ll reply to this and claim to still be ignoring me?
Wow. A full page of nothing, just to squeeze in your dislike of Bush/Cheney.
Hillary, is that you?
August 28th, 2007 at 9:36 am
Its kind of sad, of someone who has everything, trys to do something like that. hes a movie star he has everything that everyone in this world wants, and to throw that away for an argument or whatever happened, trust me he has virtually never experience pain like me and you, he doesent take no as an answer, he gets anything he wants, and he has the ignorance to even think of suicide. Thats whats so sad about it.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:13 am
Happiness and sadness have absolutely nothing to do with the external circumstances of one’s life. True happiness only comes from within, from knowledge of one’s true self. Having all one’s material desires fulfilled contributes nothing at all to one’s true happiness. Those who believe that wealth and success automatically bring happiness are the ignorant ones. Sadness and pain come from within as well, from internal conflict between the true self and the mind - and no external objects or circumstances can heal this pain.
To claim that Owen Wilson “has everything everyone in this world wants” and has “never experienced pain like me and you” (as did Roman, above) is patently false - nobody tries to commit suicide if he is not in pain. There is only one thing that “everyone in this world wants” - happiness. Obviously, if Owen Wilson had this, he would not have done what he did.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:43 am
mike is a jerk!
August 28th, 2007 at 11:00 am
Poor baby. Maybe you should tell your mommy on me.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
To the IDIOT bringing up the “NOSE JOB”, you are inconsiderate loser and if you don’t like him for the way his nose looks, than stop watching his movies! People these days are absolutely retarded, with people wanting to destroy the earth so Jesus will come back, and people, like NIA, wanting other people to look like they want them too. People like you drive people to have low self-esteem and low self worth and feel like they are not loved…
August 28th, 2007 at 12:35 pm
Mike, you are a psycho idiot. You have NO idea what you are talking about, and the more you go on and on about it, the more ignorant you look. Do us all a favor and stop commenting.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:53 pm
Yo this bitch gave me head..Nigga
August 28th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
Mel, you’re a real quick learner. You’re about the 10th retard that said that already and still haven’t picked up the pattern of how well it works.
Anything else stupid to say, or was that it?
Did you want to pick apart something specific, while stating your qualifications & referencing actual facts, or is crying like a little baby all you can do?
August 28th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
Mike,
It is people like you that make it difficult for people who are depressed to seek help, you give depression this terrible stigma that people should be ashamed that they are depressed. You are probably correct that people who attemp suicide are looking for attention or more sensitively put, help. Most people who live with depression do not wake up and decide, “oh, I think I will be depressed today so I can get some attention”. Most people do not choose depression, yet it chooses them. It is estimated that 8-25 attempted suicides occur for every completion. Many of these are never discovered, or never reported. It is important to understand that the majority of suicide attempts are expressions of extreme distress, not merely bids for attention. Be more sensitive, I am sure that any depressed person would not wish their feelings on anyone.
August 28th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
Looks like Mike is a pretty angry and hateful indivual. He may actually be suffering from some depression himself but would never admit it since it’s considered “weak” where he grew up. Come on Mike, you know you’re mad at your father. Just let it out man!
August 28th, 2007 at 1:49 pm
I’ll translate Mike’s inner thoughts, “Life sucks ass and I deal with it without “pretending” to want to die. Why should Owen Wilson or anybody else get attention for something we all deal with when we’re “strong” enough to not bitch about it. I hate life and feel left out in most groups, but I don’t whine about it. ….*sob…sob…* why didn’t my parents ever tell me how proud they were of me? *sob, sob*
August 28th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
Big shock… two more airheads that have nothing to say.
Simply being depressed is not a disease or a free pass to behave however you want.
How about this: We give anger the same bogus disease status as depression, then when angry people kill others, we can just give them a hug. Sound good?
After all, why should we judge murderers when there’s no way us mere mortals could possibly understand how they feel? If you’re going to pity those that try to kill themselves, why not pity those that try to kill others? If they “can’t help it” then give them all a pass.
August 28th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
More clueless rambling from airhead Janelle.
If you could read, you wouldn’t feel the need to “translate” anything. Putting your own spin on it might reflect how you feel, but it has nothing to do with me.
August 28th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
I was a suicide prevention counselor and supervisor at a hotline for 4 years and personally served over 3,000 callers; so you could say my opinion has some substance to back it up. Owen Wilson did not likely want to actually die - score one for Mike. That said, his emotional pain was likely so intense, caused by a number of factors, (depression, addiction, stress), he did want to KILL that pain inside. His actions WERE an attempt to get help. And, it worked. On a final note, “Judge not, lest yee…
August 28th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
Yea i ass raped my Brother, Slept with my dog and cut off my grandmas tits..Later..I gaged her and fucked her with a shoe horn
August 28th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
Here’s the real truth about my insanity…
I was raped by a well-endowed clown on the evening of May 5, 1988. That day will not escape from my memories… After the rape, which I enjoyed, I moved to W. Virginia to marry my grandmother Martha. After we were married, I started having flashbacks about that fateful day and became depressed. I have been hiding my feelings all along, of guilt, and, suicide and my love for homosexuality. by the way, karl, I will take your words of wisdom and advice and do those things to my grandmother, my brother, and my dog, step by step. Also I take 100 ibuprofen a day to keep warm, and I drink 10 shots of Testosterone a day to get high. Thank you and God Bless.
August 28th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
That’s a rough road. Listen up people…ANYBODY, any one of us can get to the point where we want to pull the plug. Some people take extraordinary risks just so they can feel…and end up dying becuase of their underlying depression. The world is often depressing people! Just look at our buttwipe president who puts our fellow citizens in harms way for nothing, AND abandons New Orleans after a major storm. Hyprocrisy brings us all down. Be nice, help your brother, neighbor, and love one another!
August 28th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
Let me make sure I got this straight… I’m getting called immature, jerk, etc… by little kiddies that think it’s clever to post as me? Yeah, that’s grown up — and WAY more appropriate.
Thanks for proving my point that I’m dealing with idiots here. I guess that’s the kind of behavior that the mature crowd wants if family members were to read this page?
Ha!
Knock yourself out trashing this page if you have nothing better to do.
August 28th, 2007 at 4:29 pm
I came on this thread to leave my best wishes for owen and his family but unfortunately as you have all read there is a uneducated illiterate retard among us (hence the name).
This message is going to mike, your opinions aside you have shown no remorse and emotion towards the tragedy that has affected Owen Wilson and his family which plainly is just not human.
But more to my typing this message, if u wanna talk clinical depression i will happily make an appointment for you and probably diagnose you as a small minded individual whos parents didnt buy him a Xbox so vents his anger on decent human beings.
Clinical depression is a real disease brought on by an unbalance in the brain that cannot handle a rational thought process. This disease can be treated with medication and in lesser cases a phyciatrist can be helpfull, but most important is a strong support group of friends and family.
Your statements mentioned earlier are uninformed and uneducated. Let me enlighten you, there is a major difference between attention seeking and suicide. Attention seeking usual involves venting your frustration because things dont go your way, i have never in my 20 years of medical practice come across a patient who has attempted suicide to gain attention. You also mention that if you want to die you will do it, again false, failed suicides are usually not a result of the patient but because a friend of family member has discovered them and called for help. Nobody wants to die, again I say nobody (just to get it through to you), clinical depression comes in waves, fine one day not so the next and in them bad days the only way out to them that they can think of is suicide, because they are not receiving the help and treatment all human beings deserve, unfortunately including you. If you want statistics go see you local medical practitioner or support group who would be more than happy to discuss this with you.
Being depressed and having depression are not the same, you mention anger should become known as a disease, again an uneducated response. Anger is an emotion, like love, envy, happiness. As stated before depression is a mental chemical unbalance.
My final say on this matter, some of your points are just plain stupid and incensitive. I really hope this doesnt happen to you or anyone you love as you will soon realise the error of your ways.
August 28th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
Mike, I have never been to this site, but it pains me to see people as retarded as you roaming the streets. People like you are what make me want to start a movment to remove warning labels from products just so you can kill yourselves off.
It’s obvious from your posts that you’ve never felt pain, had a girlfriend, and very few