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The GodfatherWhen AFI released their list of the Top 100 Movies of All Time, many people were up in arms over the selections. Over 50 members of the Online Film Journalist Community decided to join together and create a list of their own. A list that might better reflect the views of everyone else who didn’t agree with the AFI list. Sure, you can’t really compare AFI’s list with the Film Community’s Top 100 because we allowed the inclusion of foreign films.

Many of my movie picks didn’t even make it to the list of nominations (which included over 500 films), never mind on the final list you see below. I am rather disappointed that our list isn’t that very different than many of the other lists out there (including AFI’s). But that is typical of any list created by a committee. I am glad to see that a few of my favorites landed in the top half. Check out the list below, followed by a list of the other people involved in making this thing possible.

The Online Film Community’s Top 100
1. Godfather, The (Coppola, 1972)
2. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
3. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (Kubrick, 1964)
4. Raiders of the Lost Ark (Spielberg, 1981)
5. Casablanca (Curtiz, 1942)
6. Blade Runner (R. Scott, 1982)
7. Jaws (Spielberg, 1975)
8. Godfather Part II, The (Coppola, 1974)
9. Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (Kershner, 1980)
10. Alien (R. Scott, 1979)
11. Pulp Fiction (Tarantino, 1994)
12. Chinatown (Polanski, 1974)
13. Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (Lucas, 1977)
14. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)
15. Taxi Driver (Scorsese, 1976)


16. Shawshank Redemption, The (Darabont, 1994)
17. Rear Window (Hitchcock, 1954)
18. Psycho (Hitchcock, 1960)
19. Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)
20. Seven Samurai (Kurosawa, 1954)
21. Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)
22. It’s a Wonderful Life (Capra, 1946)
23. Fargo (Joel and Ethan Coen, 1996)
24. Lawrence of Arabia (Lean, 1962)
25. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry, 2004)
26. Schindler’s List (Spielberg, 1993)
27. Wizard of Oz, The (Fleming, 1939)
28. Matrix, The (Wachowski/Wachowski, 1999)
29. Third Man, The (Reed, 1949)
30. Die Hard (McTiernan, 1988)
31. Back to the Future (Zemeckis, 1985
32. Annie Hall (W. Allen, 1977)
33. Brazil (Gilliam, 1985)
34. Fight Club (Fincher, 1999)
35. Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Gilliam/Jones, 1975)
36. Usual Suspects, The (Singer, 1995)
37. Princess Bride, The (Reiner, 1987)
38. One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (Forman, 1975)
39. Once Upon a Time in the West (Leone, 1968)
40. Raging Bull (Scorsese, 1980)
41. Good, the Bad and the Ugly, The (Leone, 1966)
42. Searchers, The (Ford, 1956)
43. Singin’ in the Rain (Donen/Kelly, 1952)
44. E.T. (Spielberg, 1982)
45. Goodfellas (Scorsese, 1990)
46. Run Lola Run (Tykwer, 1998)
47. This is Spinal Tap (Reiner, 1984)
48. Sunset Blvd. (Wilder, 1950)
49. Big Lebowski, The (J. Coen, 1998)
50. Double Indemnity (Wilder, 1944)
51. Bridge on River Kwai, The (Lean, 1957)
52. Memento (Nolan, 2000)
53. M (Lang, 1931)
54. Shining, The (Kubrick, 1980)
55. 12 Angry Men (Lumet, 1957)
56. L.A. Confidential (Hanson, 1997)
57. Unforgiven (Eastwood, 1992)
58. Passion of Joan of Arc, The (Dreyer, 1928)
59. General, The (Keaton/Bruckman, 1927)
60. Apartment, The (Wilder, 1960)
61. A Clockwork Orange (Kubrick, 1971)
62. Incredibles, The (Bird, 2004)
63. Silence of the Lambs, The (Demme, 1991)
64. Aliens (Cameron, 1986)
65. Lord of the Rings, The: The Fellowship of the Ring (Jackson, 2001)
66. Heat (Mann, 1995)
67. Do the Right Thing (S. Lee, 1989)
68. Rules of the Game, The (Renoir, 1939)
69. Halloween (Carpenter, 1978)
70. Network (Lumet, 1976)
71. Graduate, The (Nichols, 1967)
72. Bicycle Thief, The (De Sica, 1948)
73. Conversation, The (Coppola, 1974)
74. Groundhog Day (Ramis, 1993)
75. Maltese Falcon, The (Huston, 1941)
76. American History X (Kaye, 1998)
77. Ed Wood (Burton, 1994)
78. Manhattan (Allen, 1979)
79. King Kong (Cooper/Shoedsack, 1933)
80. North by Northwest (Hitchcock, 1959)
81. Terminator 2: Judgment Day (Cameron, 1992)
82. Manchurian Candidate, The (Frankenheimer, 1962)
83. To Kill a Mockingbird (Mulligan, 1962)
84. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (Capra, 1939)
85. Modern Times (Chaplin, 1936)
86. Touch of Evil (Welles, 1958)
87. Leon (Besson, 1994)
88. Aguirre, the Wrath of God (Herzog, 1972)
89. 8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)
90. Ghostbusters (Reitman, 1984)
91. 400 Blows, The (Truffaut, 1959)
92. Notorious (Hitchcock, 1946)
93. Toy Story (Lasseter, 1995)
94. Lord of the Rings, The: The Return of the King (Jackson, 2003)
95. His Girl Friday (Hawks, 1940)
96. Reservoir Dogs (Tarantino, 1992)
97. Blue Velvet (Lynch, 1986)
98. On the Waterfront (Kazan, 1954)
99. Cinema Paradiso (Tornatore, 1988)
100. Nosferatu (Murnau, 1922)

Participants
Adam Kempenaar - FilmSpotting
Adam Bonin - Throwing Things
Adam Ross - DVD Panache
Alex Vo - Rotten Tomatoes
Andrew James - Movie Patron
Anne Thompson - Variety | Thompson on Hollywood
Brendan Connelly - Film Ick
Collin Smith – That Movie Site
Damian Arlyn - Windmills of My Mind
Dan Eisenberg - Cinemathematics
Daniel Johnson - Film Babble
Dennis Cozzalio - Sergio Leone and the Infield Fly Rule
Domenic Lanza - Cinema Fusion
Edward Copeland - Eddie on Film
Gareth Watkins - Film Rotation
Goran S - Y Kant Goran Rite?
Ivan G. Shreve, Jr. - Salon
Jack Denault - That Movie Site
James Davie - That Movie Site
Jared Vega – Cinema Fusion
Jay Cheel - Film Junk | The Documentary Blog
Jeff Warner – That Movie Site
Jeffrey M. Anderson - Combustible Celluloid
Jennifer Yamato - Rotten Tomatoes
Jim - Talking Moviezz
John Allison - Film Grotto
John Campea - The Movie Blog
Jonathan Burdick - Cinema Fusion
Kevin Carr – Film School Rejects
Kurt Halfyard - Twitch
Marina - Mad About Movies
Martin - Film Ick
Matt Gamble - Cinema Fusion
Matt Holmes – Obsessed With Film
Mediamelt - Film Rotation
Misael Soto - Movie Patron
Nathaniel R - Film Experience
Neil Miller – Film School Rejects
Orrin Konheim - The Sophomore Critic
Pat Piper - Lazy Eye Theatre
Peter Nellhaus - Coffee Coffee and More Coffee
Peter Schiretta – Slashfilm
Roger McDorman - A Drinking Song
Ross Miller – Movie Patron
Sean Dwyer - Film Junk
Serena Whitney – JoBlo
Shane Thompson - That Movie Site
Sledge - Film Ick
Steve Bland – Cinema Fusion
Ted Pigeon - The Cinematic Art
Tim Bennett - That Movie Site
Tim Footman - Cultural Snow
Vic Holtreman - Screen Rant

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53 Responses to “The Online Film Community’s Top 100 Movies Of All Time”

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    Is it just me, or do these lists seem to always be almost exactly the same order….

    I wish they’d mix it up a little…Maybe when I’m older, I’ll watch these shows and actually agree with some of the choices….

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    Yeah, film lists are disappointing when you’ve seen nearly all of the films and know you’re meant to have seen the others. I like finding films on lists like this that I haven’t heard of and will inspire me again.

    This list throws around all the same films that you find on any other list, yeah they are the greats but I want surprise or controversy.

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    A decent enough list, but incredibly conservative. There are no real surprises there at all, are there? (Although perhaps The Incredibles getting on there is a tiny little bit controversial, but not much.)

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    I think I agree with most of the list, but not the order it’s in.

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    I am not sure if this list should compete with the AFI list since the AFI list only includes American made films while this list has all kinds of movies.

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    I think Campea and Alex Billington had more votes than anybody else, because these choices are too geeked out and genre specific. Half of the top 20 films are science fiction/fantasy/horror.

    Yeah, riiiight.

    I definitely do not agree:

    http://therecshow.com/?p=151

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    Hey Ray, what the fuck? I don’t know why you need to call me out and say that just because they’re “geeky” and genre specific that they’re bad. I’m not sure where your preconceived notions about films come from, but genre films and “geeky” films most certainly are some of the best made. This list is definitely better than AFI’s 100.

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    Now that’s a list. Who cares about order. All of those are kick ass films.

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    Wait a minute… no Donnie Darko and no Boogie Nights? Huh?

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    Alex is quick to get upset that I refer to him as a geek, yet he considers “Starship Troopers” one of the greatest “leaps forward” in motion picture history. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    I dunno … when a movie like “Ghostbusters” or “Run Lola Run” or “Groundhog Day” appear on the list ahead of “Cabinet of Dr. Caligari” or “Birth of a Nation,” then that list must be considered geeky and slightly off.

    With what yardstick are these films ranked? Entertainment value? Legacy? Your fabled “technological leaps forward??”

    This list is mainly just a reorganized version of AFI’s list, with some clearly stupid choices - “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind????” and a front-loading of genre films. It’s almost as if you, with your limited knowledge of films from either the sci-fi/horror genres or films made since 1994, had three votes to everybody else’s one.

    Hell, I’m surprised we didn’t see a couple of “horror master” Darren Lynn Bouseman’s films in this list … I bet you voted for them, but you were overruled … the bastards!!!!!

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    Donnie Darko needs to be on there, i’m glad eternal sunshine of the spotless mind was pretty high up though.

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    How can you have Dr Strangelove and not have Fail-safe?

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    Each of us came in with our own choice of what to use as a “yardstick”. For myself I used the what would I want on a deserted island that would keep me entertained. Therefore I did not vote “serious” cinema. I thought this would counterbalance many of the other voters.

    I have a problem with calling some of the list as “stupid” seems pretty childish. Do you like the movie, no maybe not but apparently enough others do.

    No one received any extra votes or was given preference. Andrew over on Movie Patron explains the way the list was generated.

    As for the comments about the list just being a reordered version of the AFI’s list is totally wrong. With such a wide range of website authors joining in on this the list was obviously going to end up a bit typical. My top 3 movies from the nominations were Oldboy, Infernal Affairs and Little Children. None of them made the list and while I would have liked to see them on it I know why they didn’t.

    I guess my final comment is that this is the list that was created by the authors of movie websites. It is as valid as the list created by AFI or anyone else for that matter. Will it have the same impact, maybe but most likely not but it is still just as valid. It is what we as a community have voted on and chosen as our Top 100.

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    Birth of a Nation does not belong on any list of the best films ever made. Most influential, sure, but those are not the same thing.

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    Yeah … but thank God “Run Lola Run” is on there!!!!

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    John A. - Are you SERIOUSLY going to try to defend choices like “Monty Python and the Holy GRail” at number 35??? The Princess Bride” at number 37??

    Both of them - ahead of “Raging Bull” at number 40??

    I mean, c’mon … “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind” ranks - and by ranks I mean stinks - number 25, ahead of “The Matrix” and “Wizard of Oz” - both of which changed films forever.

    Ya know, just because you geeks watched “Princess Bride” over and over agian on cable T.V. when you were eating your SpaghettiO’s as a kid doesn’t mean it suddenly belongs at number 37, over more legitimate and important choices.

    If you’re going to run movie websites, at least come to the table with some knowledge of film.

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    Sure I’ll defend both of those movies even though they weren’t on my top 100 list. Both of them are very good movies that a lot of people enjoy. Its as simple as that. If the list was set up to be the top 100 movies to have an impact on cinema then I think they would be ranked lower and in fact the list would be completely different.

    I said I did my voting based on what I would want to watch on a desert island. For me I’d rather be entertained over and over again than go into the actual importance. I actually didn’t even include Citizen Kane on my list simply because while I can appeciate the importance it had/has I would much rather throw in a copy of The Sting, Indiana Jones, Ronin, Amelie or any of the other movies on my list.

    Just because we voted a certain way does not mean that we have no knowledge of film it simply means that our opinion is different than your on a) movies we like and b) the criteria for why we chose movies to be on the list.

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    Oh and btw I was actually around 20 (16 years ago) when I first saw Princess Bride and while I’ve seen it probably about 10 or times. My dinner of choice was actually eating out by that point. I can’t stand SpaghettiO’s and the rest of that fake canned tomato sauce and pasta.

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    Well if the list is comprised merely of films that we all love to pop into the DVD player, then I guess “Godzilla” movies and “Mommie Dearest” could be included as well …

    While the enjoyment factor is important in any consideration of the 100 best films of all time, that must be tempered with actual technical accomplishments (writing, direction, performance…), as well as their contributions to cinema and culture. If the choices are NOT tempered by such things, you end up with ludicrous, nonsensical choices like “Princess Bride” and “Groundhog Day” in the top 100.

    It boggles my mind that a bunch of movie bloggers, pissed off by the AFI top 100 list, decide to compile a competing list of movies that may be even more retarded and less grounded by rational thought and consideration. I mean, if you were sincerely trying, wouldn’t the choices be much more well thought out?? Instead, this list only reveals movie bloggers to be just the very geeked-out, amateurish critics and reviewers that mainstream media imagines and portrays.

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    Oh well, I’m sorry you don’t like the list. I wish we could please everyone but we can’t.

    I gave you my reasons for why I picked the movies I did. I wanted to counter balance the people who were picking them for cinematic importance. You’ve decided to focus on the way I picked my top 100. I know for a fact that others included technical merits and the impact that the movies have had.

    It seems to me though your just looking for a flame war anyways so I’m going to quit responding now. Your free to think what you will of the list and more power to you. I think the list adequately represents a wide cross section of people who enjoy a range of movies.

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    Any list that does not include Cool Hand Luke has got to be lacking somewhere. And what is Die Hard doing on the list? Come on folks Die Hard? I think the youth of the voters for this list is showing. This list should die hard.

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    These lists are funny. Take pick #100 “Nosferatu”. I just saw Nosferatu and “Dracula” (Bela Legosi version) within a few days of each other. Dracula was by far the better movie, and is nowhere on the list. Come on, film community! (Seriously, though, was it #101?)

    I do love that “Leon” (aka “The Professional”) is on the list, although I would have loved to see my other favorite early ’90s movie “True Romance” make it, too. And I’m surprised not to see “Dances with Wolves”. I know people despise Costner these days, but that was a good movie.

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    I’d like to say a couple of things here based on the discussion going on.

    First, I totally agree with John A that this list is not supposed to be the definitive list of the world’s greatest acievements in film. Part of that is in here, sure. But it is also just a list of really great and fun movies to watch. They make you smile, laugh, feel intense, have amazing dialogue or directing style, etc. etc.

    Birth of a Nation is a wonderful movie that totally changed the way movies are made, I took enough film classes to understand that. But I would never want to watch it again - therefore, I didn’t vote for it either.

    Second: yeah Die Hard belongs on the list. I’ve seen countless action films and Die Hard is easily in the top 3; if not the best of all time. There’s a reason why it’s ranked so high on just about any list ever made.

    Third: Ray, if Godzilla and Mommie Dearest are seriously films you like to pop into your DVD player quite often, we now understand where you’re coming from.

    Lastly, I guess I would challenge you to put together 50 people and make a top 100 list using the same criteria as we did and see how much different it would be. Hire all the guys from Twitch and you’ll likely get something fairly off the wall. Hire 50 people who run movie web sites and this is what you’ll get. If you seriously hate the list that much, why do you go to these movie sites? They all contributed equally (I know because I tallied the votes).

    I will admit I wish there was a little bit more foreign fare on the list and to be honest, I too would’ve liked to see more “guilty pleasures” to make the list a little more unique.

    And for the record, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind is an excellent film by an amazing director. You can’t beat its style and the idea of its story line. To say the list sucks because you don’t like every single movie on there is, like John said, kind of childish.

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    RAY said:

    “It boggles my mind that a bunch of movie bloggers, pissed off by the AFI top 100 list, decide to compile a competing list of movies that may be even more retarded and less grounded by rational thought and consideration.”

    This was NOT the goal of our list at all. Did you even read the article? No one was “pissed” about the AFI list. We just thought it odd barely any films post 1980 made the list and we also wanted some foreign stuff in our top 100. This is not at all meant to compete with anything. It was a fun way to get together and see what would come out. It was not “in response to” the AFI list as your website misquotes.

    Oh yeah, and you’ll be seeing us all again at the end of the year. Get some flaming adjectives prepared for that, Unfortunately for you, Fantastic Four part 2 probably won’t make the list. However, you are MORE THAN WELCOME to join with us and vote at year’s end.

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    You know what I don’t get about all of you “webmasters” concerning this list?? You all are so thin-skinned!!!

    Gimme a break - you all decided to make your own list because you were so pissed off about the AFI list, but when criticism comes YOUR way, then you’re all shocked and aghast.

    Don’t be a damn fucktard, Andrew darling. I was JOKING about Godzilla and Mommie Dearest. I was merely pointing out that the choices on the list are STUPID ones if you’re trying to make an actual list of well-made and important films. I am fairly certain that AFI didn’t accidently skip over “The Princess Bride” or “Monty Python and the Holy Grail” when tabulating their list.

    If you were actually making a list of the Top 100 Geek Favorites List, then great - you succeeded beyond expectations!!! But this list was supposedly a response to AFI’s Top 100 films of all time list, and in that regard, this list is mostly an embarrassment.

    http://www.therecshow.com

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    Again. Congratulations on not reading.

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    Hey Andrew - Here’s what I read from http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com regarding this Top 100:

    “When the AFI released their Top 100 ‘American’ movies earlier this year, a lot of people were turned off by it. They said the list didn’t have any passion and was the usual ‘high brow’ choices that snobby film critics usually give. Why was Citizen Kane number 1 was a phrase I heard so many people say?

    So the Online Film Community’s Top 100 Movies of All Time was born. This was a list compiled by a large group of movie bloggers and writers around the web who wanted to have their own voice and their own say on just what they thought the Top 100 movies were. Unlike the AFI’s list, we were able to choose any movie, from any country with no restrictions on anyone’s choices.”

    So if I misread something, it was from one of the participant’s websites …

    Dumbass.

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    This article does not reflect corectly what we were trying to do. I point you in the direction of the original article over at Cinema Fusion:
    http://www.cinemafusion.com/index.php?/weblog/the_online_film_communitys_top_100_movies/

    I’m hardly thin skinned. I’m all about dissent and disagreement. But to completely dismiss the list as ridiculous is ridiculous in itself.

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    I definitely appreciate the name calling. That usually helps things along. Good job. Just out of curiosity, how old are you Ray?

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    Well, like John, I’m done with this conversation that serves no purpose other than to be a flame war. But again, grab 50 people and put a list together. I’d genuinely be curious to see how it comes out.

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    LOL You try to insult me with remarks about “Fantastic Four 2″, or the “Mommie Dearest/ Godzilla” comment when you first entered this discussion, but suddenly you now want to take the high road??

    Is every idiot on that list an insufferable prick as you appear to be?

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    Ray, no one was pissed off at the AFI list. Using a thrid-party source is hardly reliable information. The biggest reason for making this list was that the AFI is only for American films and in general we found that to be a bit of a disservice to the rather amazing amount of fantastic foreign films.

    Was the list conservative? Yes. Was the list testosterone heavy? Yes. But you have to understand this was our first time at doing this, and we were working on a bit of a tight deadline. Then when you add to that the differing opinions on how to compile our intial top 100 (mine was populated with documentaries, indie films, and foreign films that I merely wanted to have a chance at getting to the second round) and it is easy to see why more modern (post 1950’s) films tended to dominate. Out of our final 502, their was maybe 25 or so that I patently disliked, which meant that films that had reached wider audiences had a distinct advantage. They are more accessible, and more people on the list had watched them.

    In the future I would think we might try to adjust how we score to eliminate this advantage, perhaps taking total points and dividing it by total number of votes received might do the trick.

    This list will never be perfect, but I know I’d like to see a bit more variety in the future. It is why we started this whole project in the first place.

    But what do I know, I’m just an insufferable, idiotic prick.

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    @ Matt: Was I talking to you? Of course not … I called “Andrew James” and insufferable, idiotic prick. Because he is one.

    I didn’t use a “third party source.” I used Matt Holmes’ website - he was one of the voters on this ridiculous list. READ.

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    wow.

    Anyway, Kurt made a couple of great points on our show the other day. One, if you just look at and read numbers 100 - 85 out loud, it is an impressive chunk of cinema right there.

    Second, if this list does nothing else, it is opened doorways to a lot of people I have talked into sort of a new world. Even myself, having not seen about 13 or 14 of the titles on the final list, I will have by year’s end. And I may not have otherwise. Damn cool.

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    Of course there is going to be criticism of the list, that’s obvious and expected with any and every list ever created. Still Ray, your arguments over this list are pretty irrational and silly and you’ve made it clear the way you think and that you’re not going to change your mind no matter what anyone says. With that said, your inclusion of personal insults only makes me think much, much less of what you have to say.

    And I voted for Groundhog Day on my final Top 100 list. It’s one of the greatest comedies of the past twenty years, easily, and to dismiss that and say it absolutely DOES NOT belong on a list of greatest films under any circumstances is complete rubbish.

    Yeah, so the final list is nowhere near the list I submitted - probably about half of my films made it - but I’m proud of it. Yeah, I’m flabberghasted that Run Lola Run made it and Cool Hand Luke or The Great Silence or The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance or Ikiru didn’t, but that’s the fun of these lists. If I wanted to put out MY OWN top 100, I just would have done that and not have bothered organizing this whole deal.

    Maybe some people just take these lists way too seriously. Feel free to respond or ask any questions, I’ll willing to have a civil, rational conversation about this if you are.

    P.S. You call us geeks like it’s an insult.

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    Jonathan:

    No, what is irrational and silly is presenting a list that, as I quoted from one of the participant’s websites, is intended to be a response to the AFI top 100 movies of all time list - and then include films that OBVIOUSLY should not be in such a list. Like “Princess Bride.” Or “Groundhog Day.”

    Now, if the list is not intended to be a direct response to the AFI list - and therefore, not subject to the same criterion of finding the best of the best - then it should have been stated as such.

    If this list is simply the favorite films of various “webmasters” then fine … argument is settled. I wouldn’t have bothered to even have an opinion if it was just the favorite films of the various site owners, because who would really care about that list??

    But I was under the impression, thanks to the early statements about this list, that you guys were trying to create a more definitive list of the Top 100 films of all time, correcting the perceived mistakes of the AFI list.

    But obviously that cannot be the case - nobody at AFI voted for “Groundhog Day,” “Run Lola Run,” “Princess Bride,” or “Monty Python” on their list because they simply and obviously do not belong there. Surely you guys, being passionate movie fans, can understand that.

    Sooooo … I guess this list tells us what movies mean the most to you guys, if I correctly understand Andrew and John A. above. Whatever. Making a list like that is fairly pointless, because it doesn’t involve any actual criticism or definition.

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    Oh, and I do consider the term “geek” derogatory when describing people who breathlessly and irrationally cling to certain films/television shows beyond a reasonable degree.

    I consider myself a geek, because I love science fiction and horror films with a passion. I love movies with a passion.

    However, I do not allow it to blind my understanding of film. I personally love “Groundhog Day.” I love “Ghostbusters.” I love “Princess Bride.” But these films, despite their charm and admirable execution, do not belong on a list of top 100 films of all time, if being judged as being the best of the best. EVER. I would never put them there, despite loving them very much.

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    Have we not made it clear that this isn’t a response to the AFI list? Inspired by, sure, but it is by no means a response. I don’t care what one of the participant’s websites said, it’s wrong. Go back to the main source of Cinema Fusion where I DID state the purpose of the list:

    “We did not make this list - which is a collaboration of over 50 movie website writers - to compete with any other list out there; we simply just wanted to do this to create an alternative list created from the opinions of online movie writers who are passionate about films of all kind and spend every day watching, reviewing, breaking down, and discussing them because they love to do it. Plus, it was just a lot of fun for all of us and a way to bring the online film community together. Naturally, there is never a list anyone seems to agree with completely and that’s the way it should be. There is no such thing as a ‘defining’ list of movies, but lists can be fun, they can be informative, and they can get people to see movies they had either looked over in the past or maybe never even heard of.”

    By the way, if you look at the 400 nominees for AFIs Top 100 (which you can do on their site), you’ll see that Groundhog Day is on the list because it simply and obviously belongs there. Surely you, being a passionate movie fan, can understand that. As for Monty Python, it isn’t on their because it’s not American.

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    Jonathan, as I have ALREADY stated, if that was not the intention of this list - and I apologize for not going directly to Cinema Fusion for the criterion - then that’s fine. Like I already said, I would never have bothered to venture an opinion about this list had I known it was just the films that you guys liked, rather than a more definitive ranking of the best.

    I would agree that “Groundhog Day” belongs in the top 400 films … LOL … but that’s a lot of films, Jonathan.

    And “Monty Python” wouldn’t have made it regardless.

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    I tend to agree with Ray. I think the problem is this list is sort of a mismash of films that > be in any Top 100 and films that are often overlooked, because they are not mainstream, or are simply fanboy favorites. It’s hard to have a list with both, because inevitably good movies (of both types) are left off. For example, films I would add:

    The Remains of the Day
    Rush
    Zero Effect
    Dark City
    Once Upon a Time in America
    American Psycho
    True Romance

    Except for the first, which I view as a must-have for a “true” or “best” 100 films (from a critical standpoint), the others are movies that are my personal favorites, but not necessarily “great” movies. (Although I bet most of you will agree these are great movies, and should have been on the list).

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    Sorry. The first line should read,

    “mismash of films that should be…”

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    Evan: Man, what a great call!! “Remains of the Day” is one of my very favorite films … simply devastating.

    Of course, it couldn’t go on this list because it doesn’t have spaceships / monsters / CGI effects.

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    Good call. It IS a great movie. I think it came somewhere in the 250 range. But as Ray said, if it had more spaceships, CGI and monsters, like in:

    1. Godfather, The (Coppola, 1972)
    2. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
    3. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (Kubrick, 1964)
    4. Raiders of the Lost Ark (Spielberg, 1981)
    5. Casablanca (Curtiz, 1942)
    8. Godfather Part II, The (Coppola, 1974)
    11. Pulp Fiction (Tarantino, 1994)
    12. Chinatown (Polanski, 1974)
    15. Taxi Driver (Scorsese, 1976)
    16. Shawshank Redemption, The (Darabont, 1994)
    17. Rear Window (Hitchcock, 1954)
    18. Psycho (Hitchcock, 1960)
    19. Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)
    20. Seven Samurai (Kurosawa, 1954)
    21. Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)
    22. It’s a Wonderful Life (Capra, 1946)
    23. Fargo (Joel and Ethan Coen, 1996)
    24. Lawrence of Arabia (Lean, 1962)
    25. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry, 2004)
    26. Schindler’s List (Spielberg, 1993)
    27. Wizard of Oz, The (Fleming, 1939)
    29. Third Man, The (Reed, 1949)
    30. Die Hard (McTiernan, 1988)
    32. Annie Hall (W. Allen, 1977)
    33. Brazil (Gilliam, 1985)
    35. Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Gilliam/Jones, 1975)
    36. Usual Suspects, The (Singer, 1995)
    37. Princess Bride, The (Reiner, 1987)
    38. One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (Forman, 1975)
    39. Once Upon a Time in the West (Leone, 1968)
    40. Raging Bull (Scorsese, 1980)
    41. Good, the Bad and the Ugly, The (Leone, 1966)
    42. Searchers, The (Ford, 1956)
    43. Singin’ in the Rain (Donen/Kelly, 1952)
    45. Goodfellas (Scorsese, 1990)
    46. Run Lola Run (Tykwer, 1998)
    47. This is Spinal Tap (Reiner, 1984)
    48. Sunset Blvd. (Wilder, 1950)
    49. Big Lebowski, The (J. Coen, 1998)
    50. Double Indemnity (Wilder, 1944)
    51. Bridge on River Kwai, The (Lean, 1957)
    52. Memento (Nolan, 2000)
    53. M (Lang, 1931)
    54. Shining, The (Kubrick, 1980)
    55. 12 Angry Men (Lumet, 1957)
    56. L.A. Confidential (Hanson, 1997)
    57. Unforgiven (Eastwood, 1992)
    58. Passion of Joan of Arc, The (Dreyer, 1928)
    59. General, The (Keaton/Bruckman, 1927)
    60. Apartment, The (Wilder, 1960)
    61. A Clockwork Orange (Kubrick, 1971)
    62. Incredibles, The (Bird, 2004)
    63. Silence of the Lambs, The (Demme, 1991)
    66. Heat (Mann, 1995)
    67. Do the Right Thing (S. Lee, 1989)
    68. Rules of the Game, The (Renoir, 1939)
    70. Network (Lumet, 1976)
    71. Graduate, The (Nichols, 1967)
    72. Bicycle Thief, The (De Sica, 1948)
    73. Conversation, The (Coppola, 1974)
    74. Groundhog Day (Ramis, 1993)
    75. Maltese Falcon, The (Huston, 1941)
    76. American History X (Kaye, 1998)
    77. Ed Wood (Burton, 1994)
    78. Manhattan (Allen, 1979)
    80. North by Northwest (Hitchcock, 1959)
    82. Manchurian Candidate, The (Frankenheimer, 1962)
    83. To Kill a Mockingbird (Mulligan, 1962)
    84. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (Capra, 1939)
    85. Modern Times (Chaplin, 1936)
    86. Touch of Evil (Welles, 1958)
    87. Leon (Besson, 1994)
    88. Aguirre, the Wrath of God (Herzog, 1972)
    89. 8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)
    91. 400 Blows, The (Truffaut, 1959)
    92. Notorious (Hitchcock, 1946)
    95. His Girl Friday (Hawks, 1940)
    96. Reservoir Dogs (Tarantino, 1992)
    97. Blue Velvet (Lynch, 1986)
    98. On the Waterfront (Kazan, 1954)
    99. Cinema Paradiso (Tornatore, 1988),

    then maybe it would have snuck into this top 100 films list.

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    The Remains of the Day isn’t even the best Merchant Ivory film (A Room With a View is the popular choice, while I’m partial to Savages myself), let alone example of cinéma vérité. Excellent film, but that it is excluded is no knock on it.

    I do find it funny that Ray continues to trash Sci-fi/horror films while he claims to love them. I think the lady doth protest too much.

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    Geez … it was just a joke. Lighten up.

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    TROTD (how’s that for an acronym?) brings a tear to my eye every time I see it. Maybe part of that is seeing Christopher Reeve, but even before he had the accident, it was one of my favorite movies. I think it’s Hopkins’ best performance - yes, better than that movie your thinking of.

    “Room with a View” - great movie - my girlfriend doesn’t even know who Helena Bonham Carter is, aside from Harry Potter.

    I think “Howard’s End” is right up there.

    Ray - thanks. Here are some more movies you would’ve liked to be on the list:

    “Cube”
    “Existenz”
    “Pi”
    “Primer”

    Maybe those will make the next list.

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    Oooh - forgot one - The Thirteenth Floor.

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    The top 100 list is always interesting. I don’t agree with some of the choices, but it’s great discussing the selections. My top three favorite movies are:
    -It’s A Wonderful Life
    -Casablanca
    -Cool Hand Luke (the most underrated movie ever !)
    These have been my favorites since college (1977). Although there are many reasons for my choices, the main one is the theme they have in common- REDEMPTION.
    submitted by Vinny Castellano

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    Most of the films listed above are great films and deserve to be there.I can honestly say that I’ve watched all of them.If it were my list it would have been slightley different.Oh and by the way you forgot 1Casablanca 2Breakfast at Tiffany’s 3Gone with the wind 4Top Gun 5Moulin Rouge 6Affair to Remember and 7American Outlaws

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    The list is wonderful. Most of the films are wonderful. I do not consider gore and horror as entertainment. Why the obvions snub to Christian epics such as “The Ten Commandments”, “The Robe”, “The Silver Chalice”? Maybe the list should be Top 150 if we refuse to cull some of those losers!!

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