Comments on: Movie Review: Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/ Blogging the Reel World Sun, 7 Sep 2008 04:18:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Fazeela http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-82651 Fazeela Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:22:20 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-82651 Loved the review! I absolutely LOVED Harry Potter, (JKR's a genius) and i LOVE the movies. But I do think they mess it up a little bit by taking out important stuff and adding other things that don't matter. and even though the movie was like over 2 hours, it seemed a bit rushed. But I absolutely LOVED the part when Fred and George leave Hogwarts, even though they make Harry/Daniel a bit of a killjoy at the end. Loved the review! I absolutely LOVED Harry Potter, (JKR’s a genius) and i LOVE the movies. But I do think they mess it up a little bit by taking out important stuff and adding other things that don’t matter. and even though the movie was like over 2 hours, it seemed a bit rushed. But I absolutely LOVED the part when Fred and George leave Hogwarts, even though they make Harry/Daniel a bit of a killjoy at the end.

]]> By: Electic http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-82452 Electic Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:18:59 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-82452 Are you all serious? The movie in the IMAX with the 3d was UTTERLY AMAZING! I agree on the reading the book before seeing the movie will dissapoint you. I hope that they will increase the movie lengh to show more of the movie because it did seem rushed. Remember that if you think you can do a better job...put up or shut up. Are you all serious? The movie in the IMAX with the 3d was UTTERLY AMAZING! I agree on the reading the book before seeing the movie will dissapoint you. I hope that they will increase the movie lengh to show more of the movie because it did seem rushed. Remember that if you think you can do a better job…put up or shut up.

]]> By: Jack green http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-68141 Jack green Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:05:19 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-68141 Come-on, critics, be honest...Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is a classic War Movie, plain and simple. What a disappointing story and a terrible message to send to kids. Instead of using his intelligence and magic to overcome problems and threats, Harry starts his own (aka “Dumbledore’s”) Army and appoints himself the head drill Sergeant, who later leads his armed group of mercenaries into a classic battle at the end, complete with death, confusion, and destruction. Harry’s mature look is completely military too – short hair, clean-shaven, tight shirts, combat boots – What happened to the nice comfy academic robes? We’ve got students being unfairly held captive and brutally tortured, a secret weapons training camp, and a small army of allied Centaurs abducting combatants behind enemy lines. Looks like the author Ms. Rowling has become entirely caught up in the British-US global strategy of post- 9/11 military domination to deal with conflict, in lieu of research, knowledge, and diplomacy. Seems that the movie’s Writers/Director have been busy adapting every major scene from Platoon and Apocalypse Now for this new “Harry Goes to War” epic. Wake up parents and beware -- The battles have just begun! Come-on, critics, be honest…Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is a classic War Movie, plain and simple. What a disappointing story and a terrible message to send to kids. Instead of using his intelligence and magic to overcome problems and threats, Harry starts his own (aka “Dumbledore’s”) Army and appoints himself the head drill Sergeant, who later leads his armed group of mercenaries into a classic battle at the end, complete with death, confusion, and destruction. Harry’s mature look is completely military too – short hair, clean-shaven, tight shirts, combat boots – What happened to the nice comfy academic robes? We’ve got students being unfairly held captive and brutally tortured, a secret weapons training camp, and a small army of allied Centaurs abducting combatants behind enemy lines. Looks like the author Ms. Rowling has become entirely caught up in the British-US global strategy of post- 9/11 military domination to deal with conflict, in lieu of research, knowledge, and diplomacy. Seems that the movie’s Writers/Director have been busy adapting every major scene from Platoon and Apocalypse Now for this new “Harry Goes to War” epic. Wake up parents and beware — The battles have just begun!

]]> By: Jeff http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-65791 Jeff Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:21:46 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-65791 Saw the film last night...read the book which the film tried to distill. I agree that this was a difficult transition. However, asode from this issue, I thought the post production was rather sub-par. Scenes were slapped together with poor edit cuts and made for poor continuity. Could the opening date deadline have affected what should have been more careful attention to bringing the scenes together? Even the credits after the film were strangely simplistic. Otherwise, I enjoyed it. Saw the film last night…read the book which the film tried to distill. I agree that this was a difficult transition. However, asode from this issue, I thought the post production was rather sub-par. Scenes were slapped together with poor edit cuts and made for poor continuity. Could the opening date deadline have affected what should have been more careful attention to bringing the scenes together? Even the credits after the film were strangely simplistic. Otherwise, I enjoyed it.

]]> By: Dylan http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-65722 Dylan Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:23:47 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-65722 Saw the film yesterday and I'm pleased to say it's the best movie I've seen in a long time.My all time favorite movie no doubt.For me I would give it 10/10.PS Derick you have officially lost credibility to want Colombus to do the last films. Saw the film yesterday and I’m pleased to say it’s the best movie I’ve seen in a long time.My all time favorite movie no doubt.For me I would give it 10/10.PS Derick you have officially lost credibility to want Colombus to do the last films.

]]> By: Derick http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-65009 Derick Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:36:58 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-65009 PS: Peter, I completely agree with you on not reading the book before the movie... (but then again, maybe we're just more movie than book guys?) PS: Peter, I completely agree with you on not reading the book before the movie… (but then again, maybe we’re just more movie than book guys?)

]]> By: Derick http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-65006 Derick Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:33:04 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-65006 I'm amazed you actually can call the Prisoner of Azkaban the best one in the series, but I think I'm even more amazed that you could actually say: "the Potter film series has improved since Chris Columbus first two films". The general consensus among all the Potter fans I know (self included) is that the first two films are the best....with each subsequent release being a little worse than the last. Now most people agree the books get better as they go on, but the movies....not so much. I'm really hoping this new one is alot better than the last two....hopefully Mr. Columbus will make a return for the final movie a couple years from now ;) I’m amazed you actually can call the Prisoner of Azkaban the best one in the series, but I think I’m even more amazed that you could actually say: “the Potter film series has improved since Chris Columbus first two films”.

The general consensus among all the Potter fans I know (self included) is that the first two films are the best….with each subsequent release being a little worse than the last. Now most people agree the books get better as they go on, but the movies….not so much.

I’m really hoping this new one is alot better than the last two….hopefully Mr. Columbus will make a return for the final movie a couple years from now ;)

]]> By: Movie Review - Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64845 Movie Review - Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:21:22 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64845 [...] got this from Slash Film: And the Potter film series has improved since Chris Columbus first two films. Alfanso Curon’s [...] [...] got this from Slash Film: And the Potter film series has improved since Chris Columbus first two films. Alfanso Curon’s [...]

]]> By: The_E http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64774 The_E Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:23:47 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64774 Total Spoiler: I'm on the fence on this. I have been an avid fan and supporter of the movie series since Sorcerers Stone came out. And didn't even read the books until after Prisoner of Azkaban. Now obviously all character development seemed to have been done in SS and Chamber of Secrets and thats cool, problem is though, those side characters that pop in every now and again throughout Goblet of Fire and Order of the Phoenix really need some extra background or better thought out scenes. I've read the books and yes you can argue anyone who has read the books knows all the background, but from the average movie goers stand point I want each character that has more screen time than a Star Trek Ensign to at least get 5-10 minutes of good on screen background/information somewhere in the series of movies or I just can't connect to them at all. Beyond that, I feel violated by Warner Bros. Goblet of Fire could have easily been an extra 30 minutes longer and it still would have kicked ass and everyone would have still paid to watch. When WB then goes and cuts Order of the Phoenix shorter than the previous movie, almost, with way more story to tell it offends me. Every singly movie goer would gladly sit through three hours of this film cause frankly WB has shown they aren't going to destroy the core of Harry Potter on screen, they just seem to think that the public wants the movie very short. I wonder who does their marketing or who their PR firm is cause they SUCK. I had read a post on /film this last week about Creecher making the cut because Rowling wanted him in, but um.....WHY WAS HE IN THEIR. They didn't explain him, they didn't use him like he's supposed to be story line wise, so why even have him there? If you're going to use a character from the book, then use him, don't pull a "venom" on the audience cause frankly, its dumb and not necessary. Casting was awesome (i.e. Luna and Umbridge) and the sets for every scene rocked, but the movie was too short and every scene I felt that they just went too fast for no reason at all. Goblet of Fire did alright rushing some scenes and going quick through the story, but this movie needed to slow down and go through the basics all over again. But hey they got Fudge to say "He's back" just in the right way so obviously that makes this movie the shit right? Good review though, and I agree you can't gauge this movie as a single entity, but I can gauge it with the right objective mindset and with that in "mind" this movie just didn't hit home like I thought it would. P.S. Someone tell WB to just make the next two 3 hours and stop hiding behind some PR rep that says it won't work. It will work and everyone will still pay to see them. Use Lord of the Rings as an example and not movies that have nothing to do with the genre the story is about. Out. Total Spoiler:

I’m on the fence on this. I have been an avid fan and supporter of the movie series since Sorcerers Stone came out. And didn’t even read the books until after Prisoner of Azkaban. Now obviously all character development seemed to have been done in SS and Chamber of Secrets and thats cool, problem is though, those side characters that pop in every now and again throughout Goblet of Fire and Order of the Phoenix really need some extra background or better thought out scenes. I’ve read the books and yes you can argue anyone who has read the books knows all the background, but from the average movie goers stand point I want each character that has more screen time than a Star Trek Ensign to at least get 5-10 minutes of good on screen background/information somewhere in the series of movies or I just can’t connect to them at all.

Beyond that, I feel violated by Warner Bros. Goblet of Fire could have easily been an extra 30 minutes longer and it still would have kicked ass and everyone would have still paid to watch. When WB then goes and cuts Order of the Phoenix shorter than the previous movie, almost, with way more story to tell it offends me. Every singly movie goer would gladly sit through three hours of this film cause frankly WB has shown they aren’t going to destroy the core of Harry Potter on screen, they just seem to think that the public wants the movie very short. I wonder who does their marketing or who their PR firm is cause they SUCK.

I had read a post on /film this last week about Creecher making the cut because Rowling wanted him in, but um…..WHY WAS HE IN THEIR. They didn’t explain him, they didn’t use him like he’s supposed to be story line wise, so why even have him there? If you’re going to use a character from the book, then use him, don’t pull a “venom” on the audience cause frankly, its dumb and not necessary.

Casting was awesome (i.e. Luna and Umbridge) and the sets for every scene rocked, but the movie was too short and every scene I felt that they just went too fast for no reason at all. Goblet of Fire did alright rushing some scenes and going quick through the story, but this movie needed to slow down and go through the basics all over again. But hey they got Fudge to say “He’s back” just in the right way so obviously that makes this movie the shit right?

Good review though, and I agree you can’t gauge this movie as a single entity, but I can gauge it with the right objective mindset and with that in “mind” this movie just didn’t hit home like I thought it would.

P.S. Someone tell WB to just make the next two 3 hours and stop hiding behind some PR rep that says it won’t work. It will work and everyone will still pay to see them. Use Lord of the Rings as an example and not movies that have nothing to do with the genre the story is about.

Out.

]]> By: Lycaon http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64595 Lycaon Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:24:38 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64595 Cant wait for the Directors Cut DvD. Cant wait for the Directors Cut DvD.

]]> By: Dylan http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64561 Dylan Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:29:22 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64561 I have one more question,and then I'll stop bothering you.LOL.Alright is this film better than Spider-Man 3 and Transformers?I have'nt seen Transformers but I saw Spider-Man 3 and loved it.Seriously all them people saying it was bad need to rewatch it.Alright so there's my question,thanks for responding. I have one more question,and then I’ll stop bothering you.LOL.Alright is this film better than Spider-Man 3 and Transformers?I have’nt seen Transformers but I saw Spider-Man 3 and loved it.Seriously all them people saying it was bad need to rewatch it.Alright so there’s my question,thanks for responding.

]]> By: Peter Sciretta http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64558 Peter Sciretta Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:21:03 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64558 Dylan - Exactly. The Harry Potter series has made me decide that I'll never read a book which is going to be made into a movie before the movie. I usually end up disapointed that some of my favorite moments didn't make it into the movie. I have since read some books (non Potter) after I've seen the film version, and have found that order to be more enjoyable because it's like watching the extended cut of your favorite movie. Dylan - Exactly.

The Harry Potter series has made me decide that I’ll never read a book which is going to be made into a movie before the movie. I usually end up disapointed that some of my favorite moments didn’t make it into the movie. I have since read some books (non Potter) after I’ve seen the film version, and have found that order to be more enjoyable because it’s like watching the extended cut of your favorite movie.

]]> By: Harry Potter News | Harry Potter Movie | Harry Potter Trivia | Harry Potter Books » Blog Archive » Movie Review: Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64555 Harry Potter News | Harry Potter Movie | Harry Potter Trivia | Harry Potter Books » Blog Archive » Movie Review: Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:14:54 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64555 [...] Original post by orfilms@gmail.com (slashfilm.com) [...] [...] Original post by orfilms@gmail.com (slashfilm.com) [...]

]]> By: Dylan http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64551 Dylan Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:10:13 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64551 The book barely had any bright moments.Thanks for responding Peter. The book barely had any bright moments.Thanks for responding Peter.

]]> By: brian http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64547 brian Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:57:13 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64547 i saw a midnight screening last night, and i was very disappointed. i completely agree that the movie is very rushed. also, the filming techniques bothered me. It seemed like half the movie was just one long montage. The newspaper transitions (you'll know what i mean when you see it) were very annoying, and were one of the main methods of telling the story in the movie. i saw a midnight screening last night, and i was very disappointed. i completely agree that the movie is very rushed. also, the filming techniques bothered me. It seemed like half the movie was just one long montage. The newspaper transitions (you’ll know what i mean when you see it) were very annoying, and were one of the main methods of telling the story in the movie.

]]> By: Peter Sciretta http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64546 Peter Sciretta Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:51:09 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64546 Azkaban is my favorite. I'd say this is may-be on par with Goblet of Fire, although Goblet might be a more enjoyable film. Order is very dark. There are not as many fun or magical moments in this film, as would/should be expected. Azkaban is my favorite. I’d say this is may-be on par with Goblet of Fire, although Goblet might be a more enjoyable film. Order is very dark. There are not as many fun or magical moments in this film, as would/should be expected.

]]> By: byron http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64544 byron Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:46:56 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64544 Ugh, this is so hard to call. I completely disagree about POA, i thought that was the worst because they pulled out so much meat and shoved in alot of fluff that made the characters unbelievable or dense.. Goblet of Fire felt way too rushed and again, you can't honestly feel for the characters when they don't back up their behavior with tangible emotional moments (of course, the book doesnt struggle there, just the films). The writers for all the films (save 1 and 2) have turned our beloved characters into paper-thin cutouts that only have depth because of our traditional associations with friendship and peril, so much of the relationships between characters are "Assumed" when in the books they are hardwired and soldered in. Will Phoenix fall to the same fate? Will most viewers be abandoned because they didnt read the books? we shall see tonight... can't wait. :) Ugh, this is so hard to call. I completely disagree about POA, i thought that was the worst because they pulled out so much meat and shoved in alot of fluff that made the characters unbelievable or dense..

Goblet of Fire felt way too rushed and again, you can’t honestly feel for the characters when they don’t back up their behavior with tangible emotional moments (of course, the book doesnt struggle there, just the films).

The writers for all the films (save 1 and 2) have turned our beloved characters into paper-thin cutouts that only have depth because of our traditional associations with friendship and peril, so much of the relationships between characters are “Assumed” when in the books they are hardwired and soldered in.

Will Phoenix fall to the same fate? Will most viewers be abandoned because they didnt read the books? we shall see tonight… can’t wait.

:)

]]> By: Dylan http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64542 Dylan Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:35:59 +0000 http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/07/11/movie-review-harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/#comment-64542 Great review Peter.I have'nt seen the film but the book is my favorite of the series.GOF being my favorite movie.I have two questions if you can answer them.Is it as good as POA and GOF or is it better?And is it better than Spider-Man 3 and Transformers? Great review Peter.I have’nt seen the film but the book is my favorite of the series.GOF being my favorite movie.I have two questions if you can answer them.Is it as good as POA and GOF or is it better?And is it better than Spider-Man 3 and Transformers?

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