Sam Raimi talks Spider-Man 4 Villains

Sam Raimi on Spiderman

For someone who was so unsure about returning to direct Spider-Man 4, that doesn’t stop Sam Raimi from talking about the possibilities. The Evil Dead director told MTV that he’s already started brainstorming about possible villains for part 4.

“I would love to see Electro, Vulture, maybe the Sinister Six as a team,” he said.

Let’s just hope that he doesn’t include them all, because the last film was stuffy enough with three bad guys. In May we wrote up a lengthy bit on what villians could be included in the further adventures of Peter Parker.  Spider-Man 3 has made over $879 million worldwide so far and climbing.

  • I was hoping for Lizard and Mysterio.Oh well this id good news anyway that he's considering Spiderman 4.
  • Spider-Fan
    ah man, i want to see the lizard
  • I know what you mean.I already beginning to feel disappointed.Oh well nothing's for sure.Let's all cross our fingers.
  • Pumpkins
    they should of had a movie devoted to venom hes the coolest character imo
  • Chris
    "Sam Raimi talks Spider-Man 4 Villains"

    My vote goes for Spider-Man / Peter Parker fighting and killing the venemous Spider-Man / emo Peter Parker from Spider-Man 3, like the Clark Kent / evil Superman battle in Superman III. That would bring some satisfaction and make me feel the money I spent on Spider-Man 3 wasn’t entirely wasted.
  • Chris
    Please, no more. I blame Lee and Janet Batchler for this (writers for Batman Forever). That's when the whole multi-villain thing became popular in Hollywood. Sure, it made the marketing guys happy, but don't they realise that for every new character you cram into a movie, you're losing that much more character development for everyone else?
  • I hope they do 6 spiderman movies.I just can't get enough.
  • Jeff
    Logical progression would suggest "The Lizard" and "Carnage." The problem is you probably wouldn't want to do both in the same movie. Have part 4 be "The Lizard" and get into that storyline a bit. Then have part 5 (yeah, thinking ahead here) be "Carnage." I say that because these films seem to like following a general story arc. They at least set up the possibility for this in "Spider Man 3."

    I can't even imagine the "Vulture" looking good on film. To me, he was a silly character in the comics. (I suppose you could argue the same about Doc Ock, but, you know, still...) "Electro" might not be a bad idea, but "Mysterio" ?? I don't know. I think you have to at least keep some level of reality working. Even "Sandman" was really stretching it for me. "Hobgoblin" --- well, I think we've had enough of goblins by now.
  • Ron
    How can he have the Sinister Six if he killed of Doc Ok?
  • Josh Syck
    to ron I think Doctor Octavius will come back I don't think he died after Spiderman and Mary Jane swung away on the web I think he came back up to the surface I think they want you to think that he died but he really didn't.
  • Ahmad Eustache
    In spiderman 3 venom came to late in the movie and died to quickly, so spiderman 4 should be about carnage and lizard, or at least find a way so that venom can come back so that it would be harder for spiderman to defeat both venom and carnage.
  • Tom
    It won't be the Sinister Six because...

    1- Dr. Oc. Died. For some of you who think he will come back, look at 2 & 3.

    2- Having six villains would make the movie 6 hours, or completely confusing. For those of you who think more villains is better, read 3.

    3- Sandman is in the Sinister Six and at the end of S3, Sandman and Spiderman weren't enemies, so then he wouldn't fight Spiderman.
  • I think that if carnage was in spiderman 4 and he was stronger than spiderman or venom, venom should come back and venom and spiderman would have to work together to destroy carnage like in the comics. But since all of the defeats in the past movies , i dont think they should try to have a sinister six.
  • Blake
    i think this is kinda stupid most of the main characters from the comics have been killed the characters i think can keep this going is either the lizard or
    carnage.
  • native son
    My suggestions for Spidey 4 with Raimi, McGuire, and Dunst:

    1. First of all, it's finally time for the culmination of personal growth. Make sure that for most, if not all, of the film, Spiderman is good, confident, and respected. No more girl problems or self doubt. Those things were totally important to the story up until now, I agree, but it's time to move on.

    2. The Lizard. It's time. It's the perfect time.

    3. Have J.J. Jameson advertise a reward for the capture and identity of both Spidey and the Lizard.

    4. Enter Kraven the Hunter with a minor role by Calypso to tie together some Lizard and Kraven storylines.

    5. Peter Parker marries Mary Jane. Kraven shows up at the reception and exposes and captures Parker (who fights Kraven unmasked in front of everyone).

    6. Let some other director bring back Carnage and 20 other characters to ruin the whole series like Batman Forever. That way, I can still enjoy my four Raimi movies on DVD without lack of closure. It's really stupid to make a movie series so open-ended. End on a high note before it's Forever stale.
  • James
    For the fourth film, Lizard and Carnage all the way! If possible, in a film after the fourth, MAYBE even set up the symbiote line consisting of Agony, Phage, Riot, Lasher, Scream, and maybe even Toxin and Hybrid. Also, maybe Sandman could reprise his role in the fourth film, and we can see what happens to his daughter. Oh, and Doppelganger could be interesting...
  • Joey
    The Best Villans would be: -Carnage and Lizard

    Also:

    Black Cat... She is the one that will ruin Peter and MJ's relationship and help spiderman cure Dr. Connors from beeing the Lizard.

    Venom... If spiderman survived from beeing hit from a bomb in the first movie, then so can Venom... he will want to kill spiderman... but then when Carnage apears they will both side against him
  • Marko
    Joey venom couldn't have survived because he was vaporized just like the old goblin did to the board members in spiderman 1. you'll see what I mean when the dvd of spiderman 3 comes out just slow-motion it and you'll see the bones getting distroyed.

    I think that Carnage will totally be in the 4th movie because Dr. Conner had a sample of Venom...... and besides I thought that Carnage came from Venom also if they put in the Lizard and Craven the Hunter it would be a great movie, not Mysterio.
  • Joey
    Yes you may be right, but having a movie with Carnage and without Venom would be very bad...

    And for those who want the sinister six:

    -sandman belongs to the sinister six, he wouldn't fight spiderman
    -Doc Ock is dead
    -Green Goblin is dead, both of them

    How is he going to make the sinister six???

    -Vulture
    -Electro
    -Scorpion
    -Lizard
    -Schoker
    -Rhino
    -Carnage
    -Wolfman
    -Kraven the Hunter
    -Mysterio
    -...

    Sam has so many villans to pick from, how can he not have ideas???
  • Stop it you guys! Spiderman 4 should be about the lizard because people have been waiting,and because he would be interesting to see like the other characters.But what about carnage? I mean DR. conners has the alien symboite. Also in the comics, spidermans DNA was mixed with the lizard to creat the carnage symboite so it could find Cletus Kassady.
  • Well maybe how did the symboite get out? I need a moment for a answer.
  • Mabye it might be carnage in it because when the lizard transforms he goes mad crashing into things. He might of crashed into the symbonites jar.........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
  • Joey
    I still say that a movie with Carnage and without Venom would not make sense...

    Venom and Carnage hate each other and spiderman and venom team up to beat carnage.... so if carnage will enter in spiderman... it would be stupid...

    Sam raimi shouldn't have maid Venom die...
  • Marko
    I know what you mean joey venom died to early so i think that carnage would be stupid..... but your forgeting that spiderman transforms inti a big spider you know with 8 legs and every think.

    That would make things interseting transformed spidey vs the lizard and carnage and kraven wouldn't it? :( ?
  • Chris
    This may seem a little out there, but when you think about it, it is possible. Dr Conners could be working on the serum that makes him the lizard but not actually become the lizard yet. Instead he could test it on the piece of the symbiote he has and since the serum causes regeneration, hence connors use for it for his arm, the serum could make the venom symbiote generate a new one aka carnage. then have what's left of the venom symbiote find some kind of remains of eddie. We've seen the symbiote repair his body before when harry hit him with the bladed pumpkin things. in the end venom could team with spiderman and help defeat carnage. both symbiote could be killed off for good and this would lead to the lizard in a 5th movie.
  • Chris
    Sorry, I just want to see Venom again, he is my favorite character in Marvel comics and I think anyone who is not Eddie Brock is not venom when combined with the symbiote. All they have to say is Topher Grace is comming back and I'll be in the theatres first day it comes out.
  • Wayne
    People come on, i want Venom back. Actually, i'm an incredible fanboy. But i happen to know that Venom isnt gonna come back! For more than 1 reason.
    1) The reason that Venom had so little screentime, looked crappy, etc., was because Sam Raimi didnt like Venom in the first place! He really didnt wanna put Venom in it, but the Venom fanboys pretty much forced him him into it, through the producers, screenwriters, etc., so he killed him off
    2) I believe that Venom deserves a full movie as much as the next guy, but theyre not gonna bring him back because he was already in a movie, and they think it's stupid to put him in two movies.
    3) As i already said, he's dead. He's not gonna come back, and good old Raimi made sure of that by blasting him to smithereens. So get over it.

    So, i think Lizard and Carnage is gonna be in it, 'cause Lizard kinda has to be, and Venom's a waste if theyr not gonna have Carnage.
  • Wayne you are right but if it was venom in a new movie it would be weird to to bring him back like the explosion was a teleportation device!!!
  • but wat if mysterio did already come back and did give harry a teleportation device as a bomb even before all of this happened!I kno it sounds weird but i think thats wat happened and venom is going 2 come back + lizard and carnage and then thu sinister six will begin...
  • no no no no no no no no no
  • Joey
    I think Giovanni Ribisi would make a good Carnage...


    Hey... did anyone see this... where it sais: "who are the villans for spider-man 4?"

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0948470/faq

    this means only one guy... Venom
  • Hey i heard thomas haden church would be the carnage guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Wayne
    hey, this is for the fanboys who still believe that Venom can possibly come back. as much as i hate it, i have proof that Venom's dead, he's a frikin skeleton, and unless they make some kind of out-of-the-way, cock-and-bull way for him to come back, he ain't!

    http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s226/Antonio...

    Now, as you can clearly see, unless you're blind, it's a skeleton, plus it looks like the bones are out of joint, cuz it looks at least 8' tall, and Eddie wasn't anywhere near that tall!
  • Joey
    hey people, don't forget that the symbiote has the power to regenerate, what if some of the symbiote was still alive and it would wrap around eddie's remains and revive him???
  • wow you are right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • jared hahn
    My 4 villians would be LIZARD,CARNAGE,VENOM,HOBGOBLIN.
  • thesharkof98
    directors need to learn... NEVER EVER kill the bad guy.. thats what ruined the orginal batman series. Joker rules and should never be killed so he can show up at inopertune times and kick the bat while he's down... as in they killed venom.. bastards he could have been so much cooler. but to all of you who say ock is dead... please he was floating in the water not dead... i say bring him back he is the collest villian to grace the big screen... he kicked spideys ass and i lover every second of it, give him amnesa or something and bring him back... remember doc ock and the lizard were friends... can you imagine.. :) drolls a little... doc ock and the lizard vs spiderman and sandman.. i would pay though the nose to watch that. then in the next movie make venom and carnage fight spiderman and ???
  • Beav
    Green Goblin dosent die in the comics, and doesnt he kill Gwen Stacy or some other love of Peters? tbh they should of stayed true the comics. Vemon and Carnage would be awesome. Not a big fan of the lizard myself.
  • Marko
    you know spiderman fighting the hob goblin and at the same time
    trying to save lizard man and fighting carnage, with the sandman on spiderman's side wouldn't be to bad of a movie to watch.
    ......and also totally off topic i just found out that there going to make batman 2 "The Black Night" with the joker in it and the same batman. (: which isnt so bad.......
  • Marko
    you know spiderman fighting the hob goblin and at the same time
    trying to save lizard and fighting carnage, with the sandman on spiderman's side wouldn't be to bad of a movie to watch.
    ......and also totally off topic i just found out that there going to make batman 2 "The Black Night" with the joker in it and the same batman. (: which isnt so bad.......
  • Marko
    hey guess you know spiderman fighting the hob goblin and at the same time trying to save lizard and fighting carnage, with the sandman on spiderman's side wouldn't be to bad of a movie to watch.
    ......and also totally off topic i just found out that there going to make batman 2 "The Black Night" with the joker in it and the same batman. (: which isnt so bad.......
  • Marko
    sorry don't know what happened up there
  • I saw a trailer of spiderman 4 with a guy with orange, bushy, hair! It is carnage! The guy is thomas haden church! The one in spiderman 3 who is sandman! IDK if its wrong, but im sure its right if you watch it! Also, if sandman was helping spiderman.. who would be carnage? I really want carnage and the lizard. But venom is okay because he can revive the hosts body. Well thats what I think will happen in spiderman 4.


    Please talk back!
  • Shadow
    Sorry guys, but they cant just kill the villains. Doc Ock and Venom are still "alive". Theyll'be back; its just a movie, they can do what they want. Maybe it looked like they died, but they just didn't. OR if they really "killed" them, theyre just a bunch of idiots.
  • Mitchell cronin
    I think for the 4th movie lizard and vulture will make a good movie. Peter and MJ get married at the begining. Vulture gets created by a poison at the potions lab and Lizard might be doctor conners working on a lizard antidote. I think spider man should be unmasked on this movie for the whole city and so peter hides and so no more spider man and puts it in the trash. That would be a great movie if you do that and always make it M15+.
  • Marko
    okay no..... hey if any of u guys have spiderman 3 the game on xbox 360 u can be new goblin, not at the sand man level but at free run u know to fight bad guys and race and everything. u can get at the pause menu under acheivments
  • Kyle Shea
    I think the next one should have the Sandman, the Lizard, the Black Cat, and Carnage. The plot should be about Spider-man torn between Mary Jane and the Black Cat's secret identity, Felicia Hardy.
  • Marko
    actually that woudn't be so bad MJ and Peter can be getting married and Carnage starts destruction and when spiderman gets there he meets Black Cat I like it and him and black cat can fight the Lizard together.
  • I think that since in the end of spider man 3 when Sandman told Peter the truth,that-that spider man should team up and try to beat Carnage.But,maybe they should add Lizard,wich Dr.Conner turns in to.But I wonder how or who becomes the red Venom,Carnage.
  • Marko
    green goblin should have lived!!!
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