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In September 2005, I wrote a Op / Ed piece on /Film in response to the reports that Spider-Man 3 would have three villains. I was very worried at the time about the movie based on what I had heard. As it turns out, much of what I worried about came true. Obviously at nearly $150 million in one weekend, the producers shouldn’t be worried about how the movie is doing at the Box Office. But it has gotten a lot of poor reviews, and it seems like most fans are at least somewhat disappointed in how it turned out. I was disappointed, but not surprised. Read on to see what I had to say in my original article from September 2005:

As a lifelong fan of Spider-Man (I’ve been reading the comics since I was about 5), and as a big fan of Sam Raimi’s two films, I must say that I was a little disappointed in the news about the number and identity of the super villains for Spider-Man 3. I was originally going to just post a comment to the story but realized that I have quite a bit to say about it, so I decided to write my own article.

First of all, three villains is too many. I think it’s hard enough to do a good super hero film with two villains. Batman Returns was one of the few that worked well with both The Penguin and Cat Woman. But, the subsequent films of the series (before Batman Begins) were terrible, partly because of the use of too many villains. I remember hearing rumors when Spider-Man 2 was in the works that in addition to Alfred Molina playing Dr. Octopus, Spider Man would also have to face The Lizard. I was worried about that because Dr. Octopus is such a great villain with a long history in the comics that I felt that a second bad guy would take away from him. I felt at the time that teaming The Lizard up with one of Spidey’s lesser enemies (possibly The Scorpion) in a later film would be better. So, I think two villains can work, but I am very worried about three.

Now, to the specific villains. It was clear by the end of the second film that James Franco’s Harry Osborne would be turning into the new Green Goblin. Thomas Haden Church is set to play Sandman, one of the most boring Spidey villains of all time. Sure, the special effects could be cool as Sandman changes his body into sand as he fights Spider Man, but the appeal of so many of the comic book arch enemies is their personalities, and unfortunately, Sandman is not one of the interesting ones. I would much rather see Church playing a character like Mysterio, The Scorpion, or even Venom. Speaking of Venom, I’m partially excited to see him in the movie, but apprehensive as well. In the comics, the story line leading up to the spawning of Venom is great but takes a long time to develop. It’s going to be very hard to introduce the alien costume (which should first belong to Peter Parker), have Peter get rid of it, and have it end up on Eddie Brock, while at the same time developing the fact that Brock is Peter’s rival at the Daily Bugle and that he hates Spider Man as well. That’s a lot for one movie without two other villains. It could work if the creation of Venom is just the subplot in the background of Spider Man fighting the Green Goblin. In other words, I hope that they are just setting up Venom to be the main villain in the fourth movie. There really shouldn’t be any fights between Spider Man and Venom yet. Also, Sandman should just be a minor part of the movie, perhaps the bad guy whom Spider Man has to deal with early on while Harry is transforming into the Green Goblin. If Sandman is only in the first third of the film, and the Green Goblin is the main focus while the birth of Venom is in the background while saving his fights with Spidey for the next film, then it could work. But, that is a lot of ‘ifs’. I wish they would keep it to two villains, and pick a more interesting one than Sandman (has Raimi heard of Kraven the Hunter?). And, what about The Lizard? His character (Dr. Connors) was introduced in Spider-Man 2 (and was even mentioned in the first movie). Perhaps they’re saving him for #4. I guess the point is that there are several great Spider Man villains to chose from and I think the producers of the series need to be more careful in the selection process.

So that is what I said over a year and a half ago. And I was right. Most people agree that there were too many villains and too many plot lines. The Green Goblin was the focal point, but I was right on about Sandman. He was created with great special effects, but was not an interesting villain. The whole alien costume story line was way too rushed as I feared it would be. And there was too much Venom. SPOILER ALERT! Don’t read on if you haven’t seen the film. If Venom was really destroyed as it appeared, then it is a very disappointing use of one of the greatest Spider-Man villains of all time. Yes, Dr. Connors has part of the alien and Carnage is the most likely villain for the next film, but will Venom be in it as well? And will he have to team up with Spider-Man to defeat Carnage like in the comics? Or will that be too similar to the end of this movie? I guess there are just a lot of questions left to answer.

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9 Responses to “We Predicted Spider-Man 3 Quality Issues Almost 2 Years Ago”

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    I predicted the same thing almost two years ago as well:

    http://screenrant.com/archives/spidey-3-too-many-villains-spo-372.html

    Vic

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    Waaaaaaaay to much going on in Spidey3! It was dizzying, to say the least!
    The saving grace was the development/retraction of dear ole’ Harry Osborn!
    He was a treat to watch! His devilish grin, his innocent hospital stay, his redemption scene at the end - It all worked! So did the basic suit with the
    dagger-arms, the retractable mask & the flyboy - oops! - I mean FLYBOARD!

    Peter will always be the ‘nerdy kid from Queens’ no matter how hard he may
    try to ‘be cool being bad’. MJ will still never be able to sing (yes, that was her
    REAL voice!), Sandman & Venom were un-neccessary villlians in this 3rd
    installment (IMO) & Gwen Stacy seemed just thrown in so we wouldn’t have to
    look at only MJ as the ‘woman in peril’. Topher Grace was a funny kid but I can
    do without him.

    I just couldn’t do without Harry!

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    Haha I predicted the same thing TOO!! But It actually took place at a conversation by a watercooler, but alas…

    …I agree, it was way overdone at times. Many themes were not explored, and the characters were one too many to say the least. This is especially felt in when we lose the ability to empathize with the Peter Parker character. It’s sad, but the thing that I missed the most was not being able to put myself in his shoes.

    Apart from that we don’t spend enough time with the villains to feel the pain who made them who they are. I guess the thing that was lacking in the story was the inter-connective dynamic between the characters that made the story come to life in the previous films. Not to say that it wasn’t attempted, but the sad truth is that the attempt made was superficial at best.

    Sigh… It was a good run though, and the experience I had watching the beautiful print at the IMAX will always stay with me. The vivid colors, and the scope of it all was quite an experience to say the least.

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    Well my son just called and told me to avoid this movie at all cost. He walked out of it and asked for his money back. Maybe others should do the same!

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    I hate to say it but Spiderman 3 was utter pap! I had high hopes considering one of my favorite villans was involved (Venom) but alas it all turned out to be mindless cack! Bury Spiderman in the “ok enoughs enough” box, please dont bring him back for a fourth installment…………..

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    yall suck it was a good movie

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    I loved the movie.It’s the best Spidey yet.Sam Raimi please make more Spiderman movies.

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    Was it me or did the actors (Maguire, Dunst, and Franco) just looked plain tired in this 3rd movie? It seemed as if they were sick or badly dehydrated during the filming. Not even make-up could cover their exhausted faces. I dont know, but that’s what it looked like to me. Also their performances seemed a bit off in retrospect to the previous 2. It just wasn’t all there at times and more like a forced scene. This 3rd installment was disappointing, but still kept pretty true to the comics which matters in the end. Cant wait for 4.

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    Harry Osborne … yesterday i found something about aladygma and osborne. i thought i had to do with cloverfield, and maybe spain. but now i realise, aladygma could also be the code name for next spiderman.

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