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	<title>Comments on: Michael Moore takes Sicko 9/11 Responders to Cuba</title>
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		<title>By: HANOVER SYLVIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>HANOVER SYLVIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am french and I would like to join Mr.LABOWE</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Moore, Cuba, &#38; sick 9/11 workers - Page 3 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Moore, Cuba, &#38; sick 9/11 workers - Page 3 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Originally Posted by Mark_Twain   Michael Moore takes Sicko 9/11 Responders to Cuba &#124; /Film  Go figure. The U.S. can't take care of sick rescue workers from NYC, so Fidel Castro has to. . .  Alright righties, start lobbing your "commie Moore" salvos. . .    Wait...Moore takes sick people to Cuba for treatment but he is making a film about it ?????  Please Mark_Twain, I am quite sure that you can see the bullshit hidden within this.    __________________ Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.  Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Originally Posted by Mark_Twain   Michael Moore takes Sicko 9/11 Responders to Cuba | /Film  Go figure. The U.S. can&#8217;t take care of sick rescue workers from NYC, so Fidel Castro has to. . .  Alright righties, start lobbing your &#8220;commie Moore&#8221; salvos. . .    Wait&#8230;Moore takes sick people to Cuba for treatment but he is making a film about it ?????  Please Mark_Twain, I am quite sure that you can see the bullshit hidden within this.    __________________ Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.  Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an American M.D. who studied medicine in both Switzerland and Norway and have to point out that the average citizen in these two countries has far better medical coverage than in the U.S., despite each country spending less of their GNP on medical care than we do here. The difference is that we in the U.S., because of the profit motive, are spending some 90% of medical costs on the last 1 year of life, much of this being unnecessary.

In Norway, medical care is nationalized, and all pharmaceuticals are strictly regulated by the government, so that only those drugs which the government has found to be of value are allowed to be dispensed, without any profit motives.  In Switzerland, by contrast, drug companies are free to market whatever products they want, and the result is that many more (and probably unnecessary) drugs are available, but also are covered by medical insurance, which is affordable for everyone (and it is required of all full-time employees). In the U.S. we could learn a lot from the various European healthcare systems and find a better system than the one we have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an American M.D. who studied medicine in both Switzerland and Norway and have to point out that the average citizen in these two countries has far better medical coverage than in the U.S., despite each country spending less of their GNP on medical care than we do here. The difference is that we in the U.S., because of the profit motive, are spending some 90% of medical costs on the last 1 year of life, much of this being unnecessary.</p>
<p>In Norway, medical care is nationalized, and all pharmaceuticals are strictly regulated by the government, so that only those drugs which the government has found to be of value are allowed to be dispensed, without any profit motives.  In Switzerland, by contrast, drug companies are free to market whatever products they want, and the result is that many more (and probably unnecessary) drugs are available, but also are covered by medical insurance, which is affordable for everyone (and it is required of all full-time employees). In the U.S. we could learn a lot from the various European healthcare systems and find a better system than the one we have.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Labowe</title>
		<link>http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/04/17/michael-moore-takes-sicko-911-responders-to-cuba/#comment-21310</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth Labowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an American who studied medicine in both Switzerland and Norway and have to point out that the average is citizen in these two countries has far better medical coverage than in the U.S., despite each country spending less of their GNP on medical care</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an American who studied medicine in both Switzerland and Norway and have to point out that the average is citizen in these two countries has far better medical coverage than in the U.S., despite each country spending less of their GNP on medical care</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don't think I would be comfortable with social healthcare. My problem with social healthcare lies in the national debt it would cause, and the availibility of treatment. Medical cost will rise no matter what is done, thanks to the many people who are suing over malpractice (or so 90% of the lawyers involved would like everyone to believe), and the rising cost of medical insurance to keep up with lawsuits. I would find it almost imossible for the government to keep up with that. Also, what will happen when some treatments go into such high demand that a wait list has to be created? Then the government will have to face the issue of people dying while waiting for treatment. I guess another one would be people abusing the treatments made available to them. 

I hate to be pessimistic, but coporate and social healthcare seem like two necessary evils, and I don't like the prospect of either. If some of my tax money went to independent organizations with proven success rates, I might be more for it. 

It's probably something I should research more, and I'll try, but for now, this is my stance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t think I would be comfortable with social healthcare. My problem with social healthcare lies in the national debt it would cause, and the availibility of treatment. Medical cost will rise no matter what is done, thanks to the many people who are suing over malpractice (or so 90% of the lawyers involved would like everyone to believe), and the rising cost of medical insurance to keep up with lawsuits. I would find it almost imossible for the government to keep up with that. Also, what will happen when some treatments go into such high demand that a wait list has to be created? Then the government will have to face the issue of people dying while waiting for treatment. I guess another one would be people abusing the treatments made available to them. </p>
<p>I hate to be pessimistic, but coporate and social healthcare seem like two necessary evils, and I don&#8217;t like the prospect of either. If some of my tax money went to independent organizations with proven success rates, I might be more for it. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably something I should research more, and I&#8217;ll try, but for now, this is my stance.</p>
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		<title>By: Fyodor_Fish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fyodor_Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I see the anti-Moore crowd chimed in first. What a surprise. With a name like Bill Pilgrim, it's easy to guess where your political sympathies lie (on the wrong side of the political divide, in case you're wondering). Making fun of Michael Moore's weight? Really, is that the best you can do? Calling him a 60s leftover? That's weak and you know it. Stop with the ad hominem attacks AND engage Moore (and those of us on the Left who may not even agree with him) on the merits of the argument.

Who exactly took us into that misbegotten war and occupation in Iraq? The Right did. The Left was on the sidelines, powerless. More than 3,200 Americans dead, more than 20,000 injured, more than 50,000 Iraqs dead. And for what? So Bush could get re-elected as a "wartime" president? So the Right could push through massive tax breaks for their friends and corporations, while leaving the majority of Americans worse off? No. November '06 changed that and the sooner you get with the new political realities, the better off we'll all be. Then again, maybe you're one of the 30% that still supports Bush and his desire to remain in Iraq forever.

AND the 9-11 responders didn't get sick? You can't be serious. Oh wait, you probably get your "news" from Faux News Network and right-wing radio. Get a clue, man. You're being lied to. Smarten up. Look online. The EPA put out a report about dangerous levels of dust, debris, and toxins that lingered in lower Manhattan for weeks and months after 9-11. AND Guiliani said it was fine. It wasn't. Man up and help those who were brave and compassionate enough to do what was right (and not Right) back then.

Erin: you ask genuinely good questions. Feel free to do some research about national healthcare systems in Canada and Europe (France in particular). You'll find that the bilge the right wing in the United States has been pumping over the last few decades about "socialized medicine" is incorrect. Why do Americans pay more for healthcare than any other Western industrialized nation? Corporate profits, that's why. Why are 43 million citizens of the United States without medical care? Where's the (social) justice in that?

As for the deficits issue, blame 14 years of Republican misrule, especially the last six years, when Bush took then current and projected budget surpluses (read that one again, please) and turned them into massive budget deficits, all thanks to corporate giveaways, massive defense spending (if you invested in defense contractors back in '00, you'd be in the green today; of course, that also means you'd have no conscience to speak of) and tax cuts for the wealthy. Republicans used to love to smear Democrats by using the phrase "tax and spend." Well, they're far, far worse: they're "tax cut and spend" Republicans.

Let's not forget that the budget deficit doesn't even include the Iraq war and occupation, which is costing us upwards of $8 billion a month (read that again, please) with a current estimate of $400 billion (all borrowed) with a projected total of $500 billion. Where exactly are we getting that money? Borrowing from foreign markets. Someone somewhere is going to pay for these deficits. Now imagine if we hadn't gone to war, imagine spending a fifth of that amount to provide healthcare for all Americans, rich, middle-class, and poor. It'd help corporations too, since they wouldn't have to provide healthcare through a for-profit system that practically guarantees waste and overages.

That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I see the anti-Moore crowd chimed in first. What a surprise. With a name like Bill Pilgrim, it&#8217;s easy to guess where your political sympathies lie (on the wrong side of the political divide, in case you&#8217;re wondering). Making fun of Michael Moore&#8217;s weight? Really, is that the best you can do? Calling him a 60s leftover? That&#8217;s weak and you know it. Stop with the ad hominem attacks AND engage Moore (and those of us on the Left who may not even agree with him) on the merits of the argument.</p>
<p>Who exactly took us into that misbegotten war and occupation in Iraq? The Right did. The Left was on the sidelines, powerless. More than 3,200 Americans dead, more than 20,000 injured, more than 50,000 Iraqs dead. And for what? So Bush could get re-elected as a &#8220;wartime&#8221; president? So the Right could push through massive tax breaks for their friends and corporations, while leaving the majority of Americans worse off? No. November &#8216;06 changed that and the sooner you get with the new political realities, the better off we&#8217;ll all be. Then again, maybe you&#8217;re one of the 30% that still supports Bush and his desire to remain in Iraq forever.</p>
<p>AND the 9-11 responders didn&#8217;t get sick? You can&#8217;t be serious. Oh wait, you probably get your &#8220;news&#8221; from Faux News Network and right-wing radio. Get a clue, man. You&#8217;re being lied to. Smarten up. Look online. The EPA put out a report about dangerous levels of dust, debris, and toxins that lingered in lower Manhattan for weeks and months after 9-11. AND Guiliani said it was fine. It wasn&#8217;t. Man up and help those who were brave and compassionate enough to do what was right (and not Right) back then.</p>
<p>Erin: you ask genuinely good questions. Feel free to do some research about national healthcare systems in Canada and Europe (France in particular). You&#8217;ll find that the bilge the right wing in the United States has been pumping over the last few decades about &#8220;socialized medicine&#8221; is incorrect. Why do Americans pay more for healthcare than any other Western industrialized nation? Corporate profits, that&#8217;s why. Why are 43 million citizens of the United States without medical care? Where&#8217;s the (social) justice in that?</p>
<p>As for the deficits issue, blame 14 years of Republican misrule, especially the last six years, when Bush took then current and projected budget surpluses (read that one again, please) and turned them into massive budget deficits, all thanks to corporate giveaways, massive defense spending (if you invested in defense contractors back in &#8216;00, you&#8217;d be in the green today; of course, that also means you&#8217;d have no conscience to speak of) and tax cuts for the wealthy. Republicans used to love to smear Democrats by using the phrase &#8220;tax and spend.&#8221; Well, they&#8217;re far, far worse: they&#8217;re &#8220;tax cut and spend&#8221; Republicans.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that the budget deficit doesn&#8217;t even include the Iraq war and occupation, which is costing us upwards of $8 billion a month (read that again, please) with a current estimate of $400 billion (all borrowed) with a projected total of $500 billion. Where exactly are we getting that money? Borrowing from foreign markets. Someone somewhere is going to pay for these deficits. Now imagine if we hadn&#8217;t gone to war, imagine spending a fifth of that amount to provide healthcare for all Americans, rich, middle-class, and poor. It&#8217;d help corporations too, since they wouldn&#8217;t have to provide healthcare through a for-profit system that practically guarantees waste and overages.</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should we have the government paying for our healthcare, when it can't even keep up with their own deficits? If the government is going to be as inefficient as it is handling our current domestic issues, how can anyone expect timely and proper treatment if it excercies control of the healthcare systems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should we have the government paying for our healthcare, when it can&#8217;t even keep up with their own deficits? If the government is going to be as inefficient as it is handling our current domestic issues, how can anyone expect timely and proper treatment if it excercies control of the healthcare systems?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Pilgrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Pilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Moore is an obese leftover from the "60's. Only he was 16 when the 60's ended so he's nostalgic for that which he never experienced.

Fidel Castro recently had a life threatening illness. What did he do? Did he take "advantage" of his so called advanced communist health care system? No. Castro went to democratic Spain for his major surgery.

Now, Michael Moore is attempting to profit from his rehab of Fidel's system's reputation.
What crap. It's all propaganda. None of the 9/11 rescue dogs smoked and none of them are suffering from all the alleged 9/11 resperitory problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Moore is an obese leftover from the &#8220;60&#8217;s. Only he was 16 when the 60&#8217;s ended so he&#8217;s nostalgic for that which he never experienced.</p>
<p>Fidel Castro recently had a life threatening illness. What did he do? Did he take &#8220;advantage&#8221; of his so called advanced communist health care system? No. Castro went to democratic Spain for his major surgery.</p>
<p>Now, Michael Moore is attempting to profit from his rehab of Fidel&#8217;s system&#8217;s reputation.<br />
What crap. It&#8217;s all propaganda. None of the 9/11 rescue dogs smoked and none of them are suffering from all the alleged 9/11 resperitory problems.</p>
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